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Anything that has the potential to cause addiction to society, if it is not regulated and given proper education about it, will have a negative effect on society - especially for people with low education. So the casino is actually not bad for society, only if it is regulated and people are given a good understanding of it by gambling responsibly and properly managing their finances. And it also goes back to the individual, because people who have good education and good self-control are less likely to be exposed to irresponsible gambling and become gambling addicts.
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June 11, 2024, 02:44:03 PM |
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Gambling is a very serious addiction once addicted to gambling one can never quit gambling. We should always try to stay away from gambling. I know people who start gambling in the first place take gambling as entertainment. There is. They don't even know when they become addicted to gambling. We all should take gambling as entertainment. Gambling can never become addiction.
People who gamble for pleasure can never become addicted to gambling. Gambling can be the best way to spend leisure time if it is chosen. And those who gamble out of time are the ones who become addicted to gambling. Risks are high. If a person gets addicted to gambling, he can be ruined very quickly. Because we know that gambling will not take time to make a person destitute. There is no risk that those who gamble in their free time will ever become addicted to gambling. I don't think there is.
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June 11, 2024, 04:29:39 PM |
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Anything that has the potential to cause addiction to society, if it is not regulated and given proper education about it, will have a negative effect on society - especially for people with low education. So the casino is actually not bad for society, only if it is regulated and people are given a good understanding of it by gambling responsibly and properly managing their finances. And it also goes back to the individual, because people who have good education and good self-control are less likely to be exposed to irresponsible gambling and become gambling addicts.
I don't know about that. Even a highly educated person can be a victim of gambling addiction. It's not about being educated or not, it's about how one person can control his emotions when it comes to gambling, and sometimes those who are in the poor district are more disciplined than others who are educated and rich. They know when to stop because they know how it feels to have nothing. I won't really use that as a comparison to see who is better or not. When it comes to managing finances, oh hell yeah, the poor people are good at it because they have to create a good budget so they can still eat the next day.
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June 11, 2024, 04:41:54 PM |
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Anything that has the potential to cause addiction to society, if it is not regulated and given proper education about it, will have a negative effect on society - especially for people with low education. So the casino is actually not bad for society, only if it is regulated and people are given a good understanding of it by gambling responsibly and properly managing their finances. And it also goes back to the individual, because people who have good education and good self-control are less likely to be exposed to irresponsible gambling and become gambling addicts.
Exactly. Concerned government agencies should atleast make education and information campaigns to let their constituents being knowledgeable about the basics of gambling and stuff. Gambling is actually just a tool that if done or used responsibly it won't end us up miserably. We humans actually do stupid things not gambling itself because we just don't get things right. We are way too emotional that is why we sometimes face consequences from it.
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June 11, 2024, 04:56:51 PM |
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Anything that has the potential to cause addiction to society, if it is not regulated and given proper education about it, will have a negative effect on society - especially for people with low education. So the casino is actually not bad for society, only if it is regulated and people are given a good understanding of it by gambling responsibly and properly managing their finances. And it also goes back to the individual, because people who have good education and good self-control are less likely to be exposed to irresponsible gambling and become gambling addicts.
I don't know about that. Even a highly educated person can be a victim of gambling addiction. It's not about being educated or not, it's about how one person can control his emotions when it comes to gambling, and sometimes those who are in the poor district are more disciplined than others who are educated and rich. They know when to stop because they know how it feels to have nothing. I won't really use that as a comparison to see who is better or not. When it comes to managing finances, oh hell yeah, the poor people are good at it because they have to create a good budget so they can still eat the next day. That's right, gambling is gambling and education is another thing, gambling does not require you to know everything like science is often taught in school, but gambling requires everyone to be able to control themselves if they don't want to experience various bad impacts like what they experienced. by addicted gamblers. What this means is that of course education is something that is not related to gambling, because gambling depends on each person's character, in the sense that if that person has a personality that easily gets emotional about something no matter how small then of course that can be the opening door for downturns as a result of gambling. On the other hand, regarding poor people, to be honest, I still can't confirm whether they have a good personality and character or not, but it cannot be denied that it is not uncommon for us to find poor people who are perpetrators of crimes such as stealing or whatever, which is usually the kind of action they carry out. This is done because they have a dire financial situation so they are determined to do whatever it takes to get money, so even though, for example, as you said, poor people have good discipline, that's only part of them.
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June 12, 2024, 05:14:51 AM |
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But when a gambler engages in irresponsible gambling he will see it not as a joy but as a bane of his life. An addicted gambler or an irresponsible gambler will not be viewed favorably by society. Because today or tomorrow society will be damaged by him. However, we cannot blame for gamble as a gambler's behavior is entirely personal. By conducting responsible gambling on one will never be affected by the negative effects of gambling.
Being addicted or irresponsible gambler doesn’t mean you can harm the society unless the gambler does an action that affects the community then this is true. Some of the addicted gambler usually just play on their own silently since they spend most of their time in the casino instead of joining to do the society. I believe the close family is the one will be affected financially if ever the gambler is using the money intended for his family but that’s not always the case so let’s stop generalizing an addicted is harmful to everyone. That's not true for every addicted gambler because in some cases, the addicted gambler might become harmful to society or the people around them. After all, if they run out of money, they might think of doing evil things so that they can get some money only so that they can gamble with it. I heard a story some time ago where an old gambling addict kidnapped his own granddaughter only to ask for ransom from her father because he wanted to gamble or repay some loan that he took for his family activities. Fortunately, he was caught without anything bad happening, but incidents such as this show us that people who are addicted to something can be extremely dangerous sometimes and we need to be careful from them at all times.
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June 12, 2024, 05:54:09 AM |
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In general, we can agree that gambling can be potentially dangerous. This is why a gambler must adhere to responsible behavior. But if we look around, we see a huge number of things that can potentially harm us. For example, almost all cutting and stabbing tools, such as knives, jigsaws, circular saws, and axes, are all potentially dangerous. Everything related to fire, gas and electricity is also dangerous. But does this mean that these things should be prohibited? I could also tell you about pharmaceuticals. Every medicine has many side effects. For example, drugs that slow the heart's rhythm can cause cardiac arrest. But nevertheless, it does not occur to anyone to prohibit it. I think it's the same story with gambling.
I agree on that. Everything has a limit it should attain and if done in excess has a disadvantage. It does not matter whether it is gambling or not. Too much food or water intake also has a bad effect to it. Even excessive excitement can lead to someone's death. Overspending kills but careful driving can save lives. That is the way I see all that. Those who gamble have to know how to manage their risk and passion for it.
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I can’t speak for other countries, but at least here in the United States, gambling has some positive effects to go along with the typical negatives. For example, our lottery system generates money that helps fund our education system. Call it a tax on people who are bad at math to pay to educate others to be better. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I can’t speak for other countries, but at least here in the United States, gambling has some positive effects to go along with the typical negatives. For example, our lottery system generates money that helps fund our education system. Call it a tax on people who are bad at math to pay to educate others to be better. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well said. When people talk about gambling, all the mention and remember how people lose money. But people barely pay attention how much tax is being paid. People never pay attention on a win. For many gambling = loosing. They never realize how huge industry is, how many employees work for gambling industry, they dont realize how huge money flows are. All the see that another reckless guy went greedy and lost his last 20 bucks while wishing to become a millionaire. Gambling is not only about one person loosing money. Take Vegas for example. Its tourists, entertainment, hotel business. I bet gambling supports sports by ads and etc. Huge industry, lot of money. It cant be just "bad" for society.
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June 12, 2024, 09:44:43 AM |
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Well said. When people talk about gambling, all the mention and remember how people lose money. But people barely pay attention how much tax is being paid. People never pay attention on a win. For many gambling = loosing. They never realize how huge industry is, how many employees work for gambling industry, they dont realize how huge money flows are. All the see that another reckless guy went greedy and lost his last 20 bucks while wishing to become a millionaire. Gambling is not only about one person loosing money. Take Vegas for example. Its tourists, entertainment, hotel business. I bet gambling supports sports by ads and etc. Huge industry, lot of money. It cant be just "bad" for society.
Yes, that's why you can't respond directly to the topic from the OP, because when it's bad for someone, it's good for other people. Of course, if we ask ourselves which of these people is greater, we will probably get the answer. If I play a little, as I do, then I don’t lose interest in the game and I don’t want to win all the time, I’m interested in the process of betting and choosing the team that will win, and not chaotic victories for the sake of money. If many players limited themselves, they wouldn't have to go into huge debt and there would be more good for society than bad. Therefore, the issue with such players tips the scales in this matter towards the bad, but only slightly.
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June 12, 2024, 10:36:32 AM |
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Being addicted or irresponsible gambler doesn’t mean you can harm the society unless the gambler does an action that affects the community then this is true. Some of the addicted gambler usually just play on their own silently since they spend most of their time in the casino instead of joining to do the society.
I believe the close family is the one will be affected financially if ever the gambler is using the money intended for his family but that’s not always the case so let’s stop generalizing an addicted is harmful to everyone.
An addicted gambler not only harms himself but also proved to be harmful for society because many individuals become addicted to gamblers when they see that their friends are engaged in this activity so gamblers will have some adverse effects. The family of gamblers is not only suffering from financial loss but is also suffering a lot due to mental distress and burden of the money which they have to give the people because their child or Brother took loan from them. A gambler who is addicted will not make good use of gambling but will become worse for his family as the time goes therefore we should not hide the bad impacts of an addictive gambler.
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June 12, 2024, 11:56:43 AM |
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In general, we can agree that gambling can be potentially dangerous. This is why a gambler must adhere to responsible behavior. But if we look around, we see a huge number of things that can potentially harm us. For example, almost all cutting and stabbing tools, such as knives, jigsaws, circular saws, and axes, are all potentially dangerous. Everything related to fire, gas and electricity is also dangerous. But does this mean that these things should be prohibited? I could also tell you about pharmaceuticals. Every medicine has many side effects. For example, drugs that slow the heart's rhythm can cause cardiac arrest. But nevertheless, it does not occur to anyone to prohibit it. I think it's the same story with gambling.
I agree on that. Everything has a limit it should attain and if done in excess has a disadvantage. It does not matter whether it is gambling or not. Too much food or water intake also has a bad effect to it. Even excessive excitement can lead to someone's death. Overspending kills but careful driving can save lives. That is the way I see all that. Those who gamble have to know how to manage their risk and passion for it. Right, the point is that anything that tends to be done in excess is always going to end badly in any case and I think it's not uncommon to hear that idea in our real life where a lot of people often say that and you've given some examples of analogies that make sense about the context of excess. Especially if we involve that context with gambling which has risks that can sometimes be very high when done in the wrong way. Winning in gambling is nothing more than a chance and what is called a chance means that it cannot necessarily happen or simply something that is still uncertain, therefore this is what causes someone to sometimes lose and sometimes win, there is nothing that guarantees or that can be used as a benchmark for getting a win which means that because of this gambling is called an activity that tends to depend on luck. So it certainly doesn't make sense to treat an activity that has no certainty whatsoever excessively, moreover there is a possibility of risk that can occur at any time that can make your money disappear in an instant.
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June 12, 2024, 12:42:17 PM |
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A gambling person can never lead well, and every action he takes will have bad results. Currently there are situations where some gamblers spend their entire income on gambling. A gambling addict can never profit and gambling can never win because his target is to win so he fails every time no matter how many times he participates. And when the income ran out, he later started borrowing from his close friends. That is why the gambler can never bring any benefit to society because he is always an addict for whom no good can be expected.
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June 12, 2024, 02:42:22 PM |
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A gambling person can never lead well, and every action he takes will have bad results. Currently there are situations where some gamblers spend their entire income on gambling. A gambling addict can never profit and gambling can never win because his target is to win so he fails every time no matter how many times he participates. And when the income ran out, he later started borrowing from his close friends. That is why the gambler can never bring any benefit to society because he is always an addict for whom no good can be expected.
You should think more wide my friend. Today I have placed a bet and won a dollar. Cant wait when that "bad result" will happen today. A gambling addict can never win? Can you provide any proof that gambling addicted have 100% lose rate in every bet they place? When addicted gambler looses everything and starts borrowing, a regular gambler never brings anything good to society, because he is addict? Wtf is that? Do you know that every time gambler looses money, a tiny % of it goes to government, and even much more tiny % of that money your grandma and grandpa will receive in a form of monthly pension?
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June 12, 2024, 03:15:40 PM |
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A gambling person can never lead well, and every action he takes will have bad results. Currently there are situations where some gamblers spend their entire income on gambling. A gambling addict can never profit and gambling can never win because his target is to win so he fails every time no matter how many times he participates. And when the income ran out, he later started borrowing from his close friends. That is why the gambler can never bring any benefit to society because he is always an addict for whom no good can be expected.
It's best to just adjust the portions in our gambling games, don't overdo it, if we overdo it, this is not recommended, this will have a bad impact on your financial condition and your life in the future. I think it is impossible for gamblers in their life to gamble and never feel any profit at all. I think this depends on each individual, whether they can control or be responsible for when they win or continue playing indefinitely. Indeed, the bad impact if we run out of capital in gambling is that we will borrow money from our closest relatives such as friends and others, and the bad impact is that they could commit crimes, this will be detrimental to society by losing their wealth.
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Anything that has the potential to cause addiction to society, if it is not regulated and given proper education about it, will have a negative effect on society - especially for people with low education. So the casino is actually not bad for society, only if it is regulated and people are given a good understanding of it by gambling responsibly and properly managing their finances. And it also goes back to the individual, because people who have good education and good self-control are less likely to be exposed to irresponsible gambling and become gambling addicts.
Moreover everything in the world we live in today has negative and positive, both cars, aircraft, and ships (just name them) even when one is sleeping it's also risky. However we won't know that all those things are risky because we sees them as normal things, gamble is not actually bad to the society, it's only the gamblers that allows themselves to become addicted to gamble that's makes it look like gamble is bad to the society. However anyone who's addicted to gamble are the ones that's negative to gamble and those that's not addicted to gamble are the positive ones.
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June 12, 2024, 03:40:15 PM |
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An addicted gambler not only harms himself but also proved to be harmful for society because many individuals become addicted to gamblers when they see that their friends are engaged in this activity so gamblers will have some adverse effects.
The family of gamblers is not only suffering from financial loss but is also suffering a lot due to mental distress and burden of the money which they have to give the people because their child or Brother took loan from them.
A gambler who is addicted will not make good use of gambling but will become worse for his family as the time goes therefore we should not hide the bad impacts of an addictive gambler.
I agree with that, especially now that everyone certainly wants to be able to make money quickly, and when one friend gambles and manages to win and the other friends see it, of course the opportunity for them to become interested will be there, because with with small capital they can get more. and clearly this is one of the bad effects of addicts which can have a bad impact on the surrounding community, although not everyone will be interested, but at least I'm sure there will be one or two people who will be interested when they see their own friends succeed in winning by gambling. Gambling addiction will of course affect many things that will be harmed, and when in a family there is one person who is addicted to gambling, of course their finances can be affected, especially if the person who is addicted is the head of the household, of course it is not only finances that will be a problem. but even relationships will fall apart. I agree with what you say, indeed with the many cases regarding the bad effects of gambling this should be a lesson, one of which is the news in my country that there is a husband and wife who can be said to be authoritative because of their work, but this family is destroyed because the husband is addicted to gambling. I hope this case can make many people aware not to gamble excessively.
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June 12, 2024, 03:56:39 PM |
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An addicted gambler not only harms himself but also proved to be harmful for society because many individuals become addicted to gamblers when they see that their friends are engaged in this activity so gamblers will have some adverse effects.
The family of gamblers is not only suffering from financial loss but is also suffering a lot due to mental distress and burden of the money which they have to give the people because their child or Brother took loan from them.
A gambler who is addicted will not make good use of gambling but will become worse for his family as the time goes therefore we should not hide the bad impacts of an addictive gambler.
I agree with that, especially now that everyone certainly wants to be able to make money quickly, and when one friend gambles and manages to win and the other friends see it, of course the opportunity for them to become interested will be there, because with with small capital they can get more. and clearly this is one of the bad effects of addicts which can have a bad impact on the surrounding community, although not everyone will be interested, but at least I'm sure there will be one or two people who will be interested when they see their own friends succeed in winning by gambling. Gambling addiction will of course affect many things that will be harmed, and when in a family there is one person who is addicted to gambling, of course their finances can be affected, especially if the person who is addicted is the head of the household, of course it is not only finances that will be a problem. but even relationships will fall apart. I agree with what you say, indeed with the many cases regarding the bad effects of gambling this should be a lesson, one of which is the news in my country that there is a husband and wife who can be said to be authoritative because of their work, but this family is destroyed because the husband is addicted to gambling. I hope this case can make many people aware not to gamble excessively. If you are someone whose really that been dealing up with gambling and have tons of friends or someone knows you then it would really be that having that high probability that you could really be able to influence others on playing gambling and since we do know that each person is really that different when it comes to their approaches towards gambling then actions and decisions be made will differ or vary. Some could really be able to have that good control into theirselves but there would really be those people who would really be able not to make such good decisions in terms of moderation and control. Gambling isnt really that bad literally, it is really just that things turns out to be bad at the moment that you would really be making bad actions basing up into those delusional approach that you do have with gambling. Its not bad to soceity considering that it is really that getting that huge revenue on which simply shows that it would economically be that beneficial but in speaking about personal conditions or situations then it could mess up someones life if they wont really be that good when it comes to decision making and that having that good control towards it.
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June 13, 2024, 08:00:40 AM |
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What about alcohol? Is it bad for society? Then what about number of families it has helped to build? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) (ok, as well as to break) In the situation with gambling it depends on how we look on it. If we consider it as a money losing activity, then it is definitely bad. But if we consider it as entertainment, then why not? However, I think we will never have a clear understanding if it is bad or good for society. One just can not exist without other nowadays. It is taxes, working places, money turnover. All that is healthy for society. Imho, I would say that it is good. Your might never gamble, but with taxes from gambling police, doctors and firefighters get their salary, you get your road fixed with money from taxes and etc. But why it might be bad? Because someone has lost all of his money, imho that is not a society problem, but a problem of an individual. Yeah, as with everything in life, gambling should be done in moderation. It's the same with the example of alcohol you mentioned. Moderation is key, if you drink too much you can end up in a bad place. Same with gambling, if you lose all your money then it's not fun any more.
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June 13, 2024, 08:06:36 AM |
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What about alcohol? Is it bad for society? Then what about number of families it has helped to build? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) (ok, as well as to break) In the situation with gambling it depends on how we look on it. If we consider it as a money losing activity, then it is definitely bad. But if we consider it as entertainment, then why not? However, I think we will never have a clear understanding if it is bad or good for society. One just can not exist without other nowadays. It is taxes, working places, money turnover. All that is healthy for society. Imho, I would say that it is good. Your might never gamble, but with taxes from gambling police, doctors and firefighters get their salary, you get your road fixed with money from taxes and etc. But why it might be bad? Because someone has lost all of his money, imho that is not a society problem, but a problem of an individual. Yeah, as with everything in life, gambling should be done in moderation. It's the same with the example of alcohol you mentioned. Moderation is key, if you drink too much you can end up in a bad place. Same with gambling, if you lose all your money then it's not fun any more. I completely would agree with you, gambling is not bad for the society, already many sees it as a fun fact to engage in but yet their are those who also abuse it by making it their source of income or getting addicted that ends up draining every penny they have, some might even end up selling off their properties while some will also take loans just to quench their taste for gambling and this has brought about the bad opposition from the society.
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