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July 09, 2024, 09:57:03 AM |
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I don't see anything wrong in gambling, but that is my own opinion and it does not have to be the same for others. The bookmakers are doing their business, they don't force people to gamble and they also put out the age limit/restriction for gamblers, to make sure that only adults (who are able to make decisions themselves) gamble. If you gamble responsibly, you'll not have any problems, just like when you drink responsibly, or are we also going to say alcohol is bad for the society?
Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling. In my opinion, neither alcohol nor gambling is harmful to society because the harm is caused by individuals who abuse alcohol, gambling or other recreational activities. Instead of banning gambling, alcohol and everything that can lead to problems when abused, we need to devote more time and resources to informing uneducated people about the harms of alcohol, the risks of gambling and teaching financial literacy, because the more educated a person is, the less likely he or she will bring harm to society.
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July 09, 2024, 12:34:22 PM |
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~snip~ Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.
If gambling has such a null effect on society, it would definitely not be taxed like it is wherever it is legalized. There is clearly a negative impact of gambling in many people, maybe not you or your friends, but you just need to read a bit and you'll realize that it is quite devastating financially for a lot of people. People end up killing themselves after losing their whole life savings in a matter of hours. You can't say that is not a negative in society.
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July 09, 2024, 12:53:49 PM |
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I don't see anything wrong in gambling, but that is my own opinion and it does not have to be the same for others. The bookmakers are doing their business, they don't force people to gamble and they also put out the age limit/restriction for gamblers, to make sure that only adults (who are able to make decisions themselves) gamble. If you gamble responsibly, you'll not have any problems, just like when you drink responsibly, or are we also going to say alcohol is bad for the society?
Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling. In my opinion, neither alcohol nor gambling is harmful to society because the harm is caused by individuals who abuse alcohol, gambling or other recreational activities. Instead of banning gambling, alcohol and everything that can lead to problems when abused, we need to devote more time and resources to informing uneducated people about the harms of alcohol, the risks of gambling and teaching financial literacy, because the more educated a person is, the less likely he or she will bring harm to society. So that's the main point, friend, what triggers the problem in any case is always because of the intention and action of "abusing", because of course in any case, whether it's alcohol or gambling, of course it can have a bad impact when we do it or consume it excessively. And if we look at it from another point of view, there is actually a positive side to both of these things that we can take advantage of, namely that gambling can fill our free time when we have boring free time, provided we know the limits or should not overdo it, and also alcohol can make We feel calm or calm our minds when we are experiencing various problems that make us depressed, provided that we only consume it in moderation. And I think if we can all use common sense and our mindset well in the sense of looking at everything rationally and making considerations before doing it then we will know the best decisions to make.
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July 12, 2024, 09:39:16 PM |
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~snip~ Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.
If gambling has such a null effect on society, it would definitely not be taxed like it is wherever it is legalized. There is clearly a negative impact of gambling in many people, maybe not you or your friends, but you just need to read a bit and you'll realize that it is quite devastating financially for a lot of people. People end up killing themselves after losing their whole life savings in a matter of hours. You can't say that is not a negative in society. this I think that if you put it in a scale the net of gambling will be negative (negative with more weight than the positive side of it) but we don't really have a way to know. maybe this subject is worth a thread by itself.
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July 12, 2024, 11:30:05 PM |
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Besides even if a small number of people do not use casinos for their stated purpose, try to beat them and then lose a lot of money because of their decision, gambling as a whole is beneficial to society, so it has been a mistake by governments to try to ban gambling thought the years, when a simple regulation is all what is needed for them to enjoy the benefits that gambling brings, so despite all what it is being said and done, casinos should be allowed to remain in business.
In as much as gambling has been really beneficial to the society, there have been reports of how gambling has caused issues amongst people in the society, and in situations where the government isn't able to handle it totally, they literally have to suffer the decedenac it beings on thw society. This has led to the restrictions placed by many governments on gambling because they are trying to not be in a situation they will have to suffer same with their citizens and not been able to handle it probably because they don't have the facilities to take care of any of such as at the time. But then if they are sure they can handle situations that c a result from gambling, they can rather permit it and get revenue taxing casinos.
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July 16, 2024, 12:40:09 AM |
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Besides even if a small number of people do not use casinos for their stated purpose, try to beat them and then lose a lot of money because of their decision, gambling as a whole is beneficial to society, so it has been a mistake by governments to try to ban gambling thought the years, when a simple regulation is all what is needed for them to enjoy the benefits that gambling brings, so despite all what it is being said and done, casinos should be allowed to remain in business.
In as much as gambling has been really beneficial to the society, there have been reports of how gambling has caused issues amongst people in the society, and in situations where the government isn't able to handle it totally, they literally have to suffer the decedenac it beings on thw society. This has led to the restrictions placed by many governments on gambling because they are trying to not be in a situation they will have to suffer same with their citizens and not been able to handle it probably because they don't have the facilities to take care of any of such as at the time. But then if they are sure they can handle situations that c a result from gambling, they can rather permit it and get revenue taxing casinos. one of the good sides is that the government would have more money but the government is formed mostly by stupid people that have no idea of what they're doing so even this ends up being a bad thing too I don't know... we can find some good things but as I mentioned before I think there are more bad things than good ones...
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July 16, 2024, 03:23:51 AM |
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In as much as gambling has been really beneficial to the society, there have been reports of how gambling has caused issues amongst people in the society, and in situations where the government isn't able to handle it totally, they literally have to suffer the decedenac it beings on thw society. This has led to the restrictions placed by many governments on gambling because they are trying to not be in a situation they will have to suffer same with their citizens and not been able to handle it probably because they don't have the facilities to take care of any of such as at the time. But then if they are sure they can handle situations that c a result from gambling, they can rather permit it and get revenue taxing casinos.
It is true that a lot of gambling makes people miserable, but actually gambling is not bad if it is done responsibly, if you do it within reasonable limits then there will be no problems such as greater losses or even the destruction of their relationship with their own family. gambling that is prohibited in a country will not be able to completely limit this, even though gambling is prohibited in that country but with the development of the internet today it makes everything easy to do, including online gambling, which has more and more platforms. It doesn't matter if they can do it well by doing it just for entertainment or having fun, but many of them experience problems because they gamble because they do it excessively because the aim of the gambling they do is to make money while the winnings are It's not easy to win in gambling, even if they use a strategy or pattern, it doesn't guarantee they can win with certainty.
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July 16, 2024, 06:40:06 AM |
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In my opinion, neither alcohol nor gambling is harmful to society because the harm is caused by individuals who abuse alcohol, gambling or other recreational activities. Instead of banning gambling, alcohol and everything that can lead to problems when abused, we need to devote more time and resources to informing uneducated people about the harms of alcohol, the risks of gambling and teaching financial literacy, because the more educated a person is, the less likely he or she will bring harm to society.
Indeed, the problem lies with each individual themselves because if they already know that something is not good then they should not do it or do it but within set limits. Another question may be whether they can gamble healthily or not. If you say that gambling is bad for society, I don't think so, because for those who have good thoughts, they gamble for entertainment, which is to relieve stress, and the good thing is that they can control themselves well, by not doing it excessively, whether it's gambling or alcohol. In general, we as humans of course have to help and remind each other, I myself often remind my friends who gamble not to do it excessively because it can get them into serious trouble, but have you ever felt annoyed when you often advise them but don't is there a change, as if the advice we give is useless? I myself have experienced this, so what I did was let him continue to fall deeper into gambling, and maybe it was destruction that would make him realize it.
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From this topic we get that gambling isnt bad for society, only individuals get serious problems with it, only some get really addicted. Turns out that is actually gives benefits for society in form of taxes and variety of entertainment. And somehow people consider it is as bad, something to be ashamed of, and to avoid people who gamble. Dont you find it strange? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I don't see anything wrong in gambling, but that is my own opinion and it does not have to be the same for others. The bookmakers are doing their business, they don't force people to gamble and they also put out the age limit/restriction for gamblers, to make sure that only adults (who are able to make decisions themselves) gamble. If you gamble responsibly, you'll not have any problems, just like when you drink responsibly, or are we also going to say alcohol is bad for the society?
Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling. In fact, both have different risks, depending on where you live, maybe people who have rational thinking might be able to control themselves when playing, but for people who are new to gambling, they are the target of gambling sites, so that's why the impact of gambling cases. It can be big if you can control yourself, just like addicts, of course there are those who can control themselves, there are also those who don't, there are those who use alcohol as their daily drink, of course for western people consuming alcohol is normal but it is different for people in the east, everyone depending on the place and where we live and the habits and traditions of each place have different prohibitions.
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From this topic we get that gambling isnt bad for society, only individuals get serious problems with it, only some get really addicted. Turns out that is actually gives benefits for society in form of taxes and variety of entertainment. And somehow people consider it is as bad, something to be ashamed of, and to avoid people who gamble. Dont you find it strange? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The fact that gambling brings benefits in the form of taxes and a variety of entertainment are just some positive factors, but if you look at all this from above, then these are small advantages, while many develop a severe addiction that they have to fight, possibly for the rest of their lives. because it might come back again. Therefore, if we talk about society in general and whether it is good or bad, then I will not find a definite answer. Perhaps if you imagine the balance, the bad ones may outweigh, but not by a large number.
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Taxation of casinos might not affect people directly, but indirectly they make a huge contribution to society and people. As it's not like casinos, or gamblers in casinos would need to be the major tax payers. Taxes help countries and their citizens no matter if one believes them or not. Without them countries would most likely fail. Casinos get tax and alot of them do pay without breaking the law. The casions in my area also helps to sponsor some community projects that helps the people of our community to get jobs and other assistance. Casino are adding to the society and gambling is not bad for the society. There are more gamblers that are not addicted than those that are addicted therefore gambling should not be a problem for trh society regardless of the quantity of people's that are gambling in the society and if the people there are making money from gambling then it will give the society more people that are rich and a rich environment is going to improve the living standards of the community. If a society notice that the rate of gambling addicts is increasing, they can organize reach out programs that they bring together all those affected and help them to recover while they teach others the results of exceeding your limits when gambling and becoming an addict.
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From this topic we get that gambling isnt bad for society, only individuals get serious problems with it, only some get really addicted. Turns out that is actually gives benefits for society in form of taxes and variety of entertainment. And somehow people consider it is as bad, something to be ashamed of, and to avoid people who gamble. Dont you find it strange? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The fact that gambling brings benefits in the form of taxes and a variety of entertainment are just some positive factors, but if you look at all this from above, then these are small advantages, while many develop a severe addiction that they have to fight, possibly for the rest of their lives. because it might come back again. Therefore, if we talk about society in general and whether it is good or bad, then I will not find a definite answer. Perhaps if you imagine the balance, the bad ones may outweigh, but not by a large number. Many religious communities are against gambling, and in some religions gambling is even considered one of the worst sins, so a large percentage of the population considers this area of entertainment problematic for society. As I said before, the problems are caused by individuals who discredit gambling by their behavior. In my opinion, the question of how negatively gambling affects society will be open as long as gambling exists, so we will never find an answer to it.
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~snip~ The fact that gambling brings benefits in the form of taxes and a variety of entertainment are just some positive factors, but if you look at all this from above, then these are small advantages, while many develop a severe addiction that they have to fight, possibly for the rest of their lives. because it might come back again. Therefore, if we talk about society in general and whether it is good or bad, then I will not find a definite answer. Perhaps if you imagine the balance, the bad ones may outweigh, but not by a large number.
What benefits are received in terms of taxes when gambling? I guess it depends on the country, but assuming you don't pay taxes on earning, then it's just fair enough as the expected return is negative. Might as well get something out of that risky venture. On the flipside, you cannot claim any losses for capital tax, so there's that as well, which is the most probable outcome anyway. If you lose money in an investment you can claim a capital loss and balance it out with a win, also a benefit for taxes.
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~ In my opinion, neither alcohol nor gambling is harmful to society because the harm is caused by individuals who abuse alcohol, gambling or other recreational activities. Instead of banning gambling, alcohol and everything that can lead to problems when abused, we need to devote more time and resources to informing uneducated people about the harms of alcohol, the risks of gambling and teaching financial literacy, because the more educated a person is, the less likely he or she will bring harm to society. About the harms of abuse. Yes, I totally agree with that. Gambling is good for society overall, let's not forget that. If gambling will be banned, millions of people that are accustomed to relaxing with gambling will be trying to find other ways of relaxation, and some of those way can very dangerous. ~snip~ Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.
If gambling has such a null effect on society, it would definitely not be taxed like it is wherever it is legalized. Why are you saying this? Don't you know that the governments usually tax anything they can and as much as they can just to make more money for themselves? They don't care whether it's harmful for society like alcohol, or it's absolutely harmless like some soft drinks. They care only about the money they can get from it.
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What benefits are received in terms of taxes when gambling?
I guess it depends on the country, but assuming you don't pay taxes on earning, then it's just fair enough as the expected return is negative. Might as well get something out of that risky venture.
If you lose money in an investment you can claim a capital loss and balance it out with a win, also a benefit for taxes.
Gambling is a registered business, they are liable to pay taxes to the government and not solely the individuals. Now a popular notion which is well agreed with is that, majority of gamblers do loss eventually. That’s almost evident in everyday life of a gambler and as such, demanding taxes on their wins just seems out of place. I wouldn’t know how it’s done in most nations but out here where am from, you don’t. However, should you win from gambling, you do pay VAT in the products you patronize and that’s a plus to the economy. One very much ignored benefit that is derived from gambling is the fact that, it gives hope to the common man. I guess you see an unsettled bet and you’re filled with expectations and beliefs that, you could win that money some day. It’s this belief that makes you even gamble the next day after a loss. That’s a plus as, it stirs some individuals in the society away from societal ills.
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July 16, 2024, 10:24:49 AM |
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From this topic we get that gambling isnt bad for society, only individuals get serious problems with it, only some get really addicted. Turns out that is actually gives benefits for society in form of taxes and variety of entertainment. And somehow people consider it is as bad, something to be ashamed of, and to avoid people who gamble. Dont you find it strange? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The fact that gambling brings benefits in the form of taxes and a variety of entertainment are just some positive factors, but if you look at all this from above, then these are small advantages, while many develop a severe addiction that they have to fight, possibly for the rest of their lives. because it might come back again. Therefore, if we talk about society in general and whether it is good or bad, then I will not find a definite answer. Perhaps if you imagine the balance, the bad ones may outweigh, but not by a large number. Many religious communities are against gambling, and in some religions gambling is even considered one of the worst sins, so a large percentage of the population considers this area of entertainment problematic for society. As I said before, the problems are caused by individuals who discredit gambling by their behavior. In my opinion, the question of how negatively gambling affects society will be open as long as gambling exists, so we will never find an answer to it. That's normal to see how negatively gambling affects society because they see many people can't avoids gambling addiction when they know gambling. From one person who playing gambling with his friend, asks to other friends to joins with both of them. That makes those three people becomes often playing gambling and start to asks other people around their circle to join to playing gambling. One person who addicted to gambling can affect to other people and makes other people have the same problem too. We can't deny that gambling can bring additional incomes to the country and develop to the better. But the affect of gambling is too big for those who don't have self control and other things so they becomes gambling addiction. It needs to aware by people so they must control themselves when playing gambling so they will not gets the bad effect of gambling. People needs to stay away from gambling addiction and find out how to prevents gambling addiction so they can playing gambling without worry if they will becomes addicted to gambling.
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This is true because for some this may be their only social interaction due to health problems. The community of players can become friends who will help with advice and support in difficult situations. I myself am a member of some communities of interest and I know how important it is for support and development in a certain area. Naturally, there are players who will lose a lot of their money, I myself was like that when I started playing gambling games, but we need to gradually improve our skills and improve our knowledge all the time, then we can learn to limit our losses and the game will no longer become very bad for us. In addition to losses, you need to be able to find positive sides yourself.
Therefore, I believe that it would be correct if the casino provided the player with a test before allowing the gambler to gamble. This should be a simple test, where the casino will warn you that you need to understand that gambling for money is very dangerous and you should always maintain self-control. And there should also be several examples of those players who could not cope with self-control.
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From this topic we get that gambling isnt bad for society, only individuals get serious problems with it, only some get really addicted. Turns out that is actually gives benefits for society in form of taxes and variety of entertainment. And somehow people consider it is as bad, something to be ashamed of, and to avoid people who gamble. Dont you find it strange? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The fact that gambling brings benefits in the form of taxes and a variety of entertainment are just some positive factors, but if you look at all this from above, then these are small advantages, while many develop a severe addiction that they have to fight, possibly for the rest of their lives. because it might come back again. Therefore, if we talk about society in general and whether it is good or bad, then I will not find a definite answer. Perhaps if you imagine the balance, the bad ones may outweigh, but not by a large number. Again addiction. Here, I have been trying to get other reason why gambling is bad for years already. Despite addiction, people cant name anything. But to become addicted to gambling, gambler must put large effort. I dont know how to prove it, and if there is a real proof, but not every gambler is addicted. That is why I dont see addiction as a serious reason why gambling is bad. It is like Coca Cola from the world of beverages. Everyone knows its has a lot of sugar, science proved that people get fat from it, yet people still drink it and find it ok. Nobody claim that Cola is bad for society.
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~ In my opinion, neither alcohol nor gambling is harmful to society because the harm is caused by individuals who abuse alcohol, gambling or other recreational activities. Instead of banning gambling, alcohol and everything that can lead to problems when abused, we need to devote more time and resources to informing uneducated people about the harms of alcohol, the risks of gambling and teaching financial literacy, because the more educated a person is, the less likely he or she will bring harm to society. About the harms of abuse. Yes, I totally agree with that. Gambling is good for society overall, let's not forget that. If gambling will be banned, millions of people that are accustomed to relaxing with gambling will be trying to find other ways of relaxation, and some of those way can very dangerous. As we all realize, it is impossible to ban gambling when any schoolchild knows how to use tools to bypass Internet blocking. And as I have already said many times, if the authorities completely ban something, this sphere simply goes into the shadows and is controlled by organized crime. The authorities understand that in this case they will lose part of the taxes, which will be used to strengthen organized crime. That is why many states do not introduce a complete ban on gambling, although they do not support this sphere of entertainment. It is better to sell licenses and receive taxes than to allocate funds and hire people to control the same sphere.
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