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August 13, 2024, 11:49:25 PM
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And most countries don't invest the funds generated through gambling in health care services to help tackle addiction. Leaving the whole responsibility for the addict's family to handle is quite unacceptable and full of harm.

So in this scenario, who is to be blamed? Is it the gambling casinos or the government who fails to establish an enabling environment for people with gambling addiction?

I'm trying to fix an agreement with why the government cares about athletes and doesn't put similar energy into gamblers. This could be an abstract comparison, but let's delve into it. Not all athletes are there for fun but for money. Unlike gamblers, they sustain physical injuries, while gamblers suffer mental disorders. Both athletes and sports gamblers generate funds for society through sports. Injuries, psychological or physical are natural, some athletes sustain more injuries than others.

Let's take for example Markelle Fultz, he's talented and respected in the NBA over the years he's been suffering injuries and is getting taken care of by agencies assigned to him. If all the country's government established agencies that'll help gamblers as shown in the diagram below, they'll be changes.

             

I'm not sure who is to be blamed, but players need to be careful knowing that no help is allocated to them. Most nations consume the commissions from gambling and don't fund gambleaware agencies or platforms to assist problem gamblers.

In this pdf there is a broad message on the usefulness of gambling agencies for problem gamblers.

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August 14, 2024, 01:02:42 AM
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And most countries don't invest the funds generated through gambling in health care services to help tackle addiction. Leaving the whole responsibility for the addict's family to handle is quite unacceptable and full of harm.

So in this scenario, who is to be blamed? Is it the gambling casinos or the government who fails to establish an enabling environment for people with gambling addiction? Because though its true, the negative effect of gambling, outweigh the positive effect, but that doesn't mean for those who could be disciplined enough to gamble what they can always afford to lose, will ever dislike gambling, as gambling is only a game of fun and money, which can only gets desaster when people  gets greedy, and sees gambling as a get rich quick scheme.
I do not agree that the government or the casino itself should be blamed, because I think that gambling is not done on the basis of coercion from either the government or the casino, we know that the casino is the host here but I think even though they act as the host they do not force everyone to gamble so the fault lies with each individual whether it is their thinking or their assumptions about gambling that are not right by not considering gambling as entertainment but as a means of making money.

people who gamble with a get-rich-quick scheme are wrong and a problem that will make them addicted. gambling that exists in my opinion is not bad, because when gambling is done on the basis of entertainment where there are reasonable limits in doing it then there will be no problems such as financial or health ruin. but unfortunately many people gamble on the basis of a get-rich-quick scheme or doubling their money and this is the problem that is in themselves not from the government or casino that acts as the host.

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August 14, 2024, 03:04:56 AM
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Gambling is nothing more than entertainment and nothing but loss to a common man. Just as a gambler is enough to cause a loss to the family especially to cause financial distress, so the gambler is a serious loss to the society. However, considering a country, an online gambling or offline gambling where there is government legalization can contribute to the economy of the country. Although this economic contribution does not benefit many countries, it can have a significant negative impact on the citizens of the country collectively.
If many people know that gambling is just for entertainment and not playing gambling too often, they will not get the bad effect from gambling instead will enjoy the gambling games to relax themselves. They will use gambling as a way to release their stress in their daily routine and can manages their time to playing gambling and other activities. They will also take care themselves while they playing gambling and will always prevents the big lose because their reason to playing gambling is because of have fun.

If those people lives in their society and can still use gambling with right as an entertainment, they can gather in one place and playing gambling together. But they will not playing gambling excessively because know what is the risks of playing gambling and will always telling to each other to be careful when playing gambling. They will not risks their family's money to be used for playing gambling because that can gives them more risks to lose the money.

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August 14, 2024, 03:17:22 AM
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Pressure comes to gamblers when they don't want to lose from gambling but are interested in winning more. The desire to win from gambling is definitely added stress. And people can never be normal if they are under this pressure. If we talk about investment at that time he will not understand. I have seen the behavior of some gamblers when they are gambling. A kind of tension comes to them until they get their bet result. This problem is more common among those who place high stakes. In gambling if one has less bet amount then he can enjoy the bet. That can be part of the entertainment. And this type of gambling cannot have any negative effect on the society.

Yes, I believe that a gambler is more stressed when he wins more than he loses. At that time the player becomes interested in gambling more as he thinks that he can earn better money by placing bets. There are many gamblers who are always under stress and their behavior is not normal, but they behave differently. At that time when they are under pressure they place more amount of bets so they are always on tension until they get the bet results. However, if a person bets a small amount in gambling, he sees it as entertainment and if he loses, it does not affect him negatively, but he spends it happily.  But if a person bets that amount of money and loses, then of course there will be a negative effect on him.

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August 14, 2024, 05:51:46 AM
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Gambling is nothing more than entertainment and nothing but loss to a common man. Just as a gambler is enough to cause a loss to the family especially to cause financial distress, so the gambler is a serious loss to the society. However, considering a country, an online gambling or offline gambling where there is government legalization can contribute to the economy of the country. Although this economic contribution does not benefit many countries, it can have a significant negative impact on the citizens of the country collectively.
If many people know that gambling is just for entertainment and not playing gambling too often, they will not get the bad effect from gambling instead will enjoy the gambling games to relax themselves. They will use gambling as a way to release their stress in their daily routine and can manages their time to playing gambling and other activities. They will also take care themselves while they playing gambling and will always prevents the big lose because their reason to playing gambling is because of have fun.

If those people lives in their society and can still use gambling with right as an entertainment, they can gather in one place and playing gambling together. But they will not playing gambling excessively because know what is the risks of playing gambling and will always telling to each other to be careful when playing gambling. They will not risks their family's money to be used for playing gambling because that can gives them more risks to lose the money.
Of course it is good attitude if all gamblers have such thoughts, but basically from what happens it proves that the main purpose of being in gambling is to be able to make money and try to win.
This mindset will never be separated from gamblers because they have assumed that gambling is shortcut to being able to make money easily or even to be able to find opportunities to change their lives.
All of this is the reason for the various negative impacts of gambling for everyone who chooses to gamble, moreover there are still very few gamblers who really have the right approach and goals for the gambling activities they have done.

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Of course it is good attitude if all gamblers have such thoughts, but basically from what happens it proves that the main purpose of being in gambling is to be able to make money and try to win.
This mindset will never be separated from gamblers because they have assumed that gambling is shortcut to being able to make money easily or even to be able to find opportunities to change their lives.
All of this is the reason for the various negative impacts of gambling for everyone who chooses to gamble, moreover there are still very few gamblers who really have the right approach and goals for the gambling activities they have done.

Yes, at the end of the day, that is the main driver of people going to casinos and gamble. They want to earn money.

In reality though, they will end up losing more than what they put out, so it is not a great thing to do really.

But, as long as there is some level of self control, then that should be fine.

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August 14, 2024, 03:57:08 PM
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The large number of people who lose a significant amount is one of the reasons why gambling is bad for society, and it is also one of the reasons why society has a bad stigma towards the activity, the point is that they always try to fight gambling even though they are not gamblers.

But maybe I would say that actually gambling would not be too bad for society if only they gambled in the right way, in the sense that if they understand the positive and negative sides of the activity, everything would not be too painful or end in significant regret when you know and understand the truth, because with that knowledge, it is likely that all forms of your actions will be measured due to concerns related to losing large amounts of money as experienced by others. On the other hand, I do not know about who gets a lot of money in gambling that attracts the attention of many people, but I am sure that it seems like they are among the people in the casino strategy.

I'd say that nobody is obligated to gambling and probably the ones most prone to spend a lot with gambling are those with not a lot of purpose for their money or with too much hope and a lack of math skill
but you are right, having something like that where people can spend and lose a lot of money out of nowhere is not a net positive.

Of course, it is a fact that there is absolutely no coercion or even threat from anyone and from any party that tells us all to get involved in gambling, all decisions are in our hands, but on the other hand I somewhat disagree with your opinion about those who spend a lot of money are those who have no purpose whatsoever to use the money, if we talk about rich people yes then it is possible, but we can see that people who have middle to lower financial situations are also involved, it is very unlikely for people who have financial situations like that to not have any purpose with the money they have, need is something that cannot be tolerated.
I think that there is a possibility that they come because of the encouragement of high hopes and beliefs, hoping that gambling can be an intermediary or a get-rich-quick scheme, on the other hand we get the money from our hard work by sweating a lot, meaning spending money on something that should not be a priority is a big mistake.

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August 14, 2024, 04:08:16 PM
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Of course it is good attitude if all gamblers have such thoughts, but basically from what happens it proves that the main purpose of being in gambling is to be able to make money and try to win.
This mindset will never be separated from gamblers because they have assumed that gambling is shortcut to being able to make money easily or even to be able to find opportunities to change their lives.
All of this is the reason for the various negative impacts of gambling for everyone who chooses to gamble, moreover there are still very few gamblers who really have the right approach and goals for the gambling activities they have done.

Yes, at the end of the day, that is the main driver of people going to casinos and gamble. They want to earn money.

In reality though, they will end up losing more than what they put out, so it is not a great thing to do really.

But, as long as there is some level of self control, then that should be fine.

To make matters worse, they turn to gambling as a way to earn money every day, or turn to gambling as a source of income. Thus, of course, there will always be emotions that make it difficult to control anger. But indeed, it will be different when bettors only gamble as a game even though the reality is still to get profit.

But at least, if they still have a good source of income by working, then of course it will be fine because bettors like this still have income that they definitely get from work. Thus, at least gambling is not entirely bad for society, because the reality is that with gambling there are also still those who can socialize well despite the fact that they are also difficult to win in gambling.

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August 14, 2024, 06:42:54 PM
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~snip~
Of course it is good attitude if all gamblers have such thoughts, but basically from what happens it proves that the main purpose of being in gambling is to be able to make money and try to win.
This mindset will never be separated from gamblers because they have assumed that gambling is shortcut to being able to make money easily or even to be able to find opportunities to change their lives.
All of this is the reason for the various negative impacts of gambling for everyone who chooses to gamble, moreover there are still very few gamblers who really have the right approach and goals for the gambling activities they have done.

Yes, at the end of the day, that is the main driver of people going to casinos and gamble. They want to earn money.

In reality though, they will end up losing more than what they put out, so it is not a great thing to do really.

But, as long as there is some level of self control, then that should be fine.

To make matters worse, they turn to gambling as a way to earn money every day, or turn to gambling as a source of income. Thus, of course, there will always be emotions that make it difficult to control anger. But indeed, it will be different when bettors only gamble as a game even though the reality is still to get profit.

But at least, if they still have a good source of income by working, then of course it will be fine because bettors like this still have income that they definitely get from work. Thus, at least gambling is not entirely bad for society, because the reality is that with gambling there are also still those who can socialize well despite the fact that they are also difficult to win in gambling.
It will always be a good thing when the bettor can be able to control himself and his emotions, have limits, have income from work and not lose money that he cannot lose, I think that is how gamblers will be much calmer and more comfortable, even though they have a money orientation from gambling, but can control themselves and stick to the principle of responsible gambling, there will be no buri for gamblers.

But yes, we also understand that most people cannot control themselves when they come into contact with gambling, especially those who have such a mindset, of course it is very natural for such gamblers to get bad things from gambling because they themselves cannot control themselves.

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August 14, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
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Gambling can affect self-esteem, relationship's, physical and mental health,work performance and social life. It can harm not only the person who gambles but also the family, friends, workplaces and communities.
I can boldly say that Gambling can not affect self-esteem, relationship, physical/mental health, work performance and social life with others,  But rather it is gambling addiction that could actually affect a person's self-esteem, relationship, physical/mental health and work performance with others. Hence, by virtue of the question you asked above @ O.P,  i'm sure you are likely to get diverse opinions just like mine, as gambling has done both good and bad to different sets of individuals all around the world, as through a jackpot won from gambling, many families have been able to afford to live the life of their dream, which never would have been possible if not for gambling. Hence, gambling is good, but it's when a gambler gets addicted that is bad.

Gambling cannot affect self-esteem, relationships and mental health Only when it's done moderately, that's fact..an addicted gambler that  is constantly losing his income will always be in depression, this would take a toll on your mental health, and this might affect your relationship with other people..How can gambling addiction affect your self-esteem?? Always throwing your money would make you go everytime, not being able to provide your needs and take responsibly would make you feel less of yourself

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 #891

Putting restriction on gambling or gambling ban is just nothing more than making people not to have freedom. What the government should look after is for people not to harm others. We are in the world that people are exposed to gambling, they should educate themselves on how to make fun and entertainment from gambling and not turn it to a way of looking for income.

Exactly no one will really buy into the idea that they've been restricted from gambling,it's just like making a decree that no one should be seen watching football matches and yes no one would want to adhere to such instructions cause it's like depriving them of their Right and freedom like you said.

But it can be controlled you know if only the gamblers  would be discipline enough and reduce that hunger of Greed cause yes exposure to gambling has cause a high influence on gamblers making them open to being addicted.

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August 14, 2024, 09:29:23 PM
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Gambling can affect self-esteem, relationship's, physical and mental health,work performance and social life. It can harm not only the person who gambles but also the family, friends, workplaces and communities.
I can boldly say that Gambling can not affect self-esteem, relationship, physical/mental health, work performance and social life with others,  But rather it is gambling addiction that could actually affect a person's self-esteem, relationship, physical/mental health and work performance with others. Hence, by virtue of the question you asked above @ O.P,  i'm sure you are likely to get diverse opinions just like mine, as gambling has done both good and bad to different sets of individuals all around the world, as through a jackpot won from gambling, many families have been able to afford to live the life of their dream, which never would have been possible if not for gambling. Hence, gambling is good, but it's when a gambler gets addicted that is bad.

Gambling cannot affect self-esteem, relationships and mental health Only when it's done moderately, that's fact..an addicted gambler that  is constantly losing his income will always be in depression, this would take a toll on your mental health, and this might affect your relationship with other people..How can gambling addiction affect your self-esteem?? Always throwing your money would make you go everytime, not being able to provide your needs and take responsibly would make you feel less of yourself
Or simply the key on here is that you should really be having that self control and this would really be the key because on the moment that you would be playing gambling on which
you wont really be putting up yourself on any trouble on this case. The usual issue of most gamblers is on having that out of self control on the time that they would be playing up gambling.
Its never been that recommended that you would be able to win on the moment that you do play gambling and this is something a self realization that you would really be needing.

Gambling isnt bad to the society, the wrong thing on here is on the person itself who do gambling because on the moment or time that they would really be that become impulsive
towards gambling then they do become that addicted and on the time that they do become addicted then they would be doing things impulsively on which it would really be causing
up for things to be messy. This is why it would really be that recommended that you should really know on what are the actions that you are taking.

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August 14, 2024, 10:55:03 PM
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And most countries don't invest the funds generated through gambling in health care services to help tackle addiction. Leaving the whole responsibility for the addict's family to handle is quite unacceptable and full of harm.

So in this scenario, who is to be blamed? Is it the gambling casinos or the government who fails to establish an enabling environment for people with gambling addiction? Because though its true, the negative effect of gambling, outweigh the positive effect, but that doesn't mean for those who could be disciplined enough to gamble what they can always afford to lose, will ever dislike gambling, as gambling is only a game of fun and money, which can only gets desaster when people  gets greedy, and sees gambling as a get rich quick scheme.
I do not agree that the government or the casino itself should be blamed, because I think that gambling is not done on the basis of coercion from either the government or the casino, we know that the casino is the host here but I think even though they act as the host they do not force everyone to gamble so the fault lies with each individual whether it is their thinking or their assumptions about gambling that are not right by not considering gambling as entertainment but as a means of making money.


Blame is one last thing that doesn't work when saving a problem gambler. The stigma on those living with addiction leads to the reason our society faces more losses. Gamblers need to learn and do what's right, but the system is too emotional. Not every player can withstand the trap of loss-chasing. Despising them won't help us as a community. Allowing most compulsive players unattended, will only add up the rate of problem gambling.

They'll lure other responsible players into problem gambling. For any government that's interested in reducing suicide, stealing, drug abuse, mental disorders, and all other problems with addiction, they must invest their gambling commission in health centers to treat problem gambling.

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August 15, 2024, 03:48:16 AM
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Of course it is good attitude if all gamblers have such thoughts, but basically from what happens it proves that the main purpose of being in gambling is to be able to make money and try to win.
This mindset will never be separated from gamblers because they have assumed that gambling is shortcut to being able to make money easily or even to be able to find opportunities to change their lives.
All of this is the reason for the various negative impacts of gambling for everyone who chooses to gamble, moreover there are still very few gamblers who really have the right approach and goals for the gambling activities they have done.
If people have the mindset to make money from gambling, they will disappointed because they will not have a big chance to win and even they will lose much money. That is why playing gambling must be moderation for every people or those who in the society because gambling can be bad to the society if those people can't control and limits themselves. They see what happen to other people who use gambling excessively so they don't have to do the same thing and must prevents the bad things comes to them.

Their must change their minds not to thinks that gambling is a shortcut to make money easily because they know whatever will happen to them. Their life will change and becomes bad without they realizes and they will difficult to cure themselves when they gets the problem. That is why people must know how to treat gambling as an entertainment so they will not deeper in gambling and can enjoy playing gambling for have fun.

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August 15, 2024, 04:16:49 AM
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Blame is one last thing that doesn't work when saving a problem gambler. The stigma on those living with addiction leads to the reason our society faces more losses. Gamblers need to learn and do what's right, but the system is too emotional. Not every player can withstand the trap of loss-chasing. Despising them won't help us as a community. Allowing most compulsive players unattended, will only add up the rate of problem gambling.

They'll lure other responsible players into problem gambling. For any government that's interested in reducing suicide, stealing, drug abuse, mental disorders, and all other problems with addiction, they must invest their gambling commission in health centers to treat problem gambling.

I do agree with all that you've said but I think it's a fantasy where a government would invest the gambling taxes for health centers or rehabilitation for gambling addiction. That's not how it will work for them especially when they see how big the profit a gambling den could give. That money is for the people and not especially for those who have gambling problems and perhaps only a few officials would give a damn about them.

It's true that it would help lessen some crimes because stealing could be one of the things a gambling addict could do just to satisfy his urge to gamble more. Honestly, I have not seen a gambling rehabilitation here in our place. As I said, the government focuses on other things when the gambling tax comes in but they have little care about those who gambled there.

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August 15, 2024, 05:45:46 AM
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Blame is one last thing that doesn't work when saving a problem gambler. The stigma on those living with addiction leads to the reason our society faces more losses. Gamblers need to learn and do what's right, but the system is too emotional. Not every player can withstand the trap of loss-chasing. Despising them won't help us as a community. Allowing most compulsive players unattended, will only add up the rate of problem gambling.

They'll lure other responsible players into problem gambling. For any government that's interested in reducing suicide, stealing, drug abuse, mental disorders, and all other problems with addiction, they must invest their gambling commission in health centers to treat problem gambling.
someone who is addicted will usually be different and if you say it can harm others I think that's true, although not all addicts are like that. the main problem is in themselves so they have to realize that the fault lies with themselves not with others or the casino itself. the level of gambling addicts seems to continue to increase although it is uncertain, but seeing the current situation where online casino gambling is circulating I think more and more people are gambling and becoming addicted.

I can't believe that they will lure other people to be responsible for their problems. because in my opinion we must be able to be responsible for what happens from the actions we have taken. depression, stress, or others that happen to yourself caused by gambling are because the actions taken are unreasonable or have exceeded reasonable limits, bad impacts will not occur if they do gambling properly, but it is very rare for people to be able to gamble properly such as just for entertainment.

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And most countries don't invest the funds generated through gambling in health care services to help tackle addiction. Leaving the whole responsibility for the addict's family to handle is quite unacceptable and full of harm.

So in this scenario, who is to be blamed? Is it the gambling casinos or the government who fails to establish an enabling environment for people with gambling addiction?

I'm trying to fix an agreement with why the government cares about athletes and doesn't put similar energy into gamblers.
Such assertion can never be possible about government taking care of gamblers, same way athletes are been taken cared of in times of need, such as NBA, Soccer and Basketball players, as these people when been signed to a club, they are always covered with a medical insurance in cases of emergency, while, secondly, another reason why such ascertion can never work is simply because the total number of gamblers are always 100,000 times larger than the total number of athletes in every gaming event, and as such government can not finance for such multitude of crowd.

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people who gamble with a get-rich-quick scheme are wrong and a problem that will make them addicted. gambling that exists in my opinion is not bad, because when gambling is done on the basis of entertainment where there are reasonable limits in doing it then there will be no problems such as financial or health ruin. but unfortunately many people gamble on the basis of a get-rich-quick scheme or doubling their money and this is the problem that is in themselves not from the government or casino that acts as the host.

As far as I know, the government in several countries has appealed to its citizens not to gamble for security and economic reasons. In some countries gambling is legal but with certain limits and is only allowed in certain places that have a license and have strict minimum age requirements. Casinos are the hosts of gambling. They know they will profit from those who lose and spend a lot of money in their place. Casinos are businesses, not charities so don't expect them to give you easy wins, unless you have good luck. But Casinos never force people to gamble. As far as I know in some countries gambling advertisements are also strictly monitored so that those who gamble are people with their own choices.

I think if you choose to continue gambling then that is your choice and you are ready with many risks. Likewise, if you choose to stop gambling then that is your choice. And it is good for you to focus on other things such as your career and relationship life.

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I can boldly say that Gambling can not affect self-esteem, relationship, physical/mental health, work performance and social life with others,  But rather it is gambling addiction that could actually affect a person's self-esteem, relationship, physical/mental health and work performance with others. Hence, by virtue of the question you asked above @ O.P,  i'm sure you are likely to get diverse opinions just like mine, as gambling has done both good and bad to different sets of individuals all around the world, as through a jackpot won from gambling, many families have been able to afford to live the life of their dream, which never would have been possible if not for gambling. Hence, gambling is good, but it's when a gambler gets addicted that is bad.

Gambling cannot affect self-esteem, relationships and mental health Only when it's done moderately, that's fact..an addicted gambler that  is constantly losing his income will always be in depression, this would take a toll on your mental health, and this might affect your relationship with other people..How can gambling addiction affect your self-esteem?? Always throwing your money would make you go everytime, not being able to provide your needs and take responsibly would make you feel less of yourself

Exactly, I think that's the point, as you said that actually gambling will not be too bad and will not have too much negative impact on various aspects of our lives when everything is done reasonably and measured, in the sense of not exceeding the limits of one's abilities, and actually this approach applies to everything we find in our lives, although basically the activity, for example, does not have too much negative impact but when someone treats it in the wrong way such as tending to be excessive then usually there will be something bad at the end of the story as an impact.

On the other hand I think it is clear and everyone should already know that gambling is a risky activity where experiencing problems in financial situations is the first impact that will be felt by someone while we are living beings who will always have needs in order to survive, meaning of course having problems in finances can be very stressful for someone which will ultimately affect their mental and psychological, and it has been proven that it is not uncommon for some gamblers to end up with stress and even worse is suicide. So the point is don't get involved in an activity that you don't understand, think rationally to know and realize that gambling is not a get rich quick scheme I think can keep you safe in the long run.

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On the other hand I think it is clear and everyone should already know that gambling is a risky activity where experiencing problems in financial situations is the first impact that will be felt by someone while we are living beings who will always have needs in order to survive, meaning of course having problems in finances can be very stressful for someone which will ultimately affect their mental and psychological, and it has been proven that it is not uncommon for some gamblers to end up with stress and even worse is suicide. So the point is don't get involved in an activity that you don't understand, think rationally to know and realize that gambling is not a get rich quick scheme I think can keep you safe in the long run.

That is why I always advise against gambling to those who have any serious problems in life. Both economic problems and problems with the internal state or personal life. You need to come to gambling in a good mood and with extra money that the gambler can afford. Only then will the experience of playing in an online casino or betting be successful and enjoyable.

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