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May 24, 2024, 01:23:05 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
I believe that match fixing exists but I don't believe that Manchester City and Tottenham smell like match fixing, because I think the game is quite tight, we know that Tottenham is not the favorite team and they have played less well in their last few matches so it is natural that Manchester City superior in that match, talking about score fixing I always say that sometimes it happens in matches between a top team and a team that is not a seed, such as a top team losing to a bottom team, if a top team meets a top team it is difficult to find cheating.

But the existence of VAR might be able to solve cheating games like that, I don't know what they get from the profit by fixing the score, what is meant is it also has something to do with the owner of the gambling site who also takes advantage of fixing the score, where does the money that is given to bribe them to play come from? It's not good whether there are sports betting site owners who are also involved in it with clubs or personally with players, but it all comes back to VAR because now it's not easy to cheat VAR even though there is still cheating but it doesn't happen that much at the moment that I see.

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May 24, 2024, 01:34:06 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
I believe that match fixing exists but I don't believe that Manchester City and Tottenham smell like match fixing, because I think the game is quite tight, we know that Tottenham is not the favorite team and they have played less well in their last few matches so it is natural that Manchester City superior in that match, talking about score fixing I always say that sometimes it happens in matches between a top team and a team that is not a seed, such as a top team losing to a bottom team, if a top team meets a top team it is difficult to find cheating.

But the existence of VAR might be able to solve cheating games like that, I don't know what they get from the profit by fixing the score, what is meant is it also has something to do with the owner of the gambling site who also takes advantage of fixing the score, where does the money that is given to bribe them to play come from? It's not good whether there are sports betting site owners who are also involved in it with clubs or personally with players, but it all comes back to VAR because now it's not easy to cheat VAR even though there is still cheating but it doesn't happen that much at the moment that I see.
Match fixing is something that was common in football in the early years of the sport as so many different teams were bargaining with their opponents on which result they'll want at the end of matches. Sometimes, some huge stakers of those years would go pay some of the match officials or team managers to help them get the result that'll see them win big in their gamblings but because of the modern day technology and how FIFA has put severe punishments on match fixing, it's not something that's common again in football.
Son Heung-Min was played one on one with Manchester City goalkeeper Stefan Ortega in their second to the last game pf the season but failed to convert the goal as it was blocked by the leg of thr goalkeeper and after the game, Pep Guardiola went to have a little word with him. That event has made so many people to believe that Son Heung-Min deliberately missed that goal because of his arrangement with Manchester City but the truth is that there was no match fixing in that game. It was actually one of those big misses that big players does miss sometimes

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May 24, 2024, 01:34:47 PM
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I have seen people give extra attention or have special attitude towards others in exchange for benefit. I can not call it as a fixed match, but I have seen how referee closed eyes on little rules violation of one team, and was more strict to other.

Sure something of such could happen because the referee wants to favour a particular side. To fix a match means you have to allow certain things go that originally isn't suppose to and despite the players complaining or spectators gearing against the referee, it won't matter. It is more glaring that a match has been fixed if such mistakes happen often but then it is not easy to prove that a match has been fixed. It takes an insider to reveal that match was fixed and just very few may get such information.

I doubt it can happen in a professional league, if proven that they are fixing the matches, it could mean their careers, their team, and the entire franchise. Who would want that? There's an organization that keeps everything disciplined so that they won't do such things as shaving points or other kinds of cheats to make an opponent win.


Yes it is very difficult to hear and confirm match fixing in big leagues and this is because all eyes and interest are there, the stake is high and any offense of such can drag a big team to relegation.

In smaller leagues, because you don't have big involvement, some things can happen without proper investigation.
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May 24, 2024, 01:37:50 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this

Match fixing is a big form of gambling. How many talented footballers, cricketers have destroyed themselves under this match fixing. This match fixing will never go away from any country. And this match fixing is most common in big clubs. These match-fixing issues are well-understood on the football field. It turned out that a footballer would be rewarded for scoring a goal, ten times or 100 times more than he would get for not scoring.
This is inevitable whether it is in any league or any country because athletes are also a job and also need salaries, they need money to spend based on their class in society, lower class will need money to cover their living expenses, high class will need more money for luxury, and faced with an extremely large and mysterious amount of black money, it was difficult to refuse. Although an athlete's pride is important, there are so many temptations to fall into compromise that it is difficult to completely prevent it, depending on the player's arrogance.

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May 24, 2024, 01:54:50 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this
I've read a lot about this and truly it has happened before, yes, match-fixing has happened before but it was many decades ago, except for the few suspected ones years back. Still, I will not say such is not happening, money, they say controls a lot, and through internal politics, they control, perfect it and cover up for the rest. If one would say that FIFA is so innocent, I would never believe that, it is so obvious in some award selections that will look like a daylight robbery, but I am not going there to avoid more complications. But for the match-fixing, if anyone tells you that it is known, that person will be telling a lie. This is because if matches would be fixed at all, it will be a top secret in which all mechanism are perfected without any trace of fault to anyone, that is the issues here.

But for me, I will not be so trusting about this, so it is very possible that there are match fixing to favour some sides. As for the players as well, you can only trust yourself since you do not know what they do in their closets. But if we look at it from a different angle too, they have their career in line with this, so it is possible that many things that looks like a planned work are not actually true.

The same allegations has been meted to referees as well, but since no ones has been caught recently about it (at least that I know of), we have to overlook it. No one is guilty of what you can't prove.

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May 24, 2024, 02:16:38 PM
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So you think in the match between Manchester City and Totteham it was match-fixing, how can you think like this that there were even many incidents where players kicked the ball and were denied by the goalkeeper. so for me this is biased towards that.

About match-fixing it may still exist but in the minor leagues and this is often we encounter news some time ago, but for the big leagues, especially Europe, it is no longer possible to have match-fixing.

So for league matches in Europe I don't believe in match-fixing.
This is how they deceive many people with match-fixing. Match-fixing isn't meant to be obvious, especially when one team appears stronger than the other. I also believe there are many subtle ways to manipulate a match that players may not even be aware of, such as giving them substances that unknowingly weaken their performance. I don't want to sound like a criminal, but do you know how many powerful individuals are involved in match-fixing and the enormous sums of money they make from it? Gambling is one of the biggest and shadiest markets in the world, involving a lot of wealthy people.

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May 24, 2024, 03:40:10 PM
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I do believe on it but there's a catch. It doesn't happen mostly on the bigger leagues and you'd see them often goes on with the smaller leagues or with the unpopular ones. They're prone to match fixing and that's why if you ever want to avoid them, you need to choose the sports and leagues that you want to bet because you'll never know, that small league that you're going to play YOLO and bet on them is already a rigged match. But here are just our opinions and we don't have proof but gut feels of most of us says that it does happen.

In most cases, we will only hear rumours. Even if some of them are true, no one can give a solid evidence that the match is being fixed. Also, if you are very familiar with the performance of the athletes inside the field, you will have your gut feel if they are really under the spell of match fixing.

In bigger leagues, it is hard to arrange this as a lot of people are focused on them, and people will see if there will be change of movement of that athlete. They will see it clear if people are closely following them.

It is possible, but of course, once you get caught and you are part of the officials there's a higher chance there's a sanction with your actions could be terminated, or disqualified depending on the organisation of the event, actually not even in the sports OP mentioned but also in other sports that have a large names and titles will get fighting for the winners, actions can easily notice by the viewers they are supporting each other teams with their bias and they can easily smell something suspicious if there's any happening during the game.

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May 24, 2024, 04:35:55 PM
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I believe that match fixing exists in all sporting events, especially in football. Actually, match fixing is not always based on gambling. There are two types of match fixing in football, namely arranged match-fixing and gambling match-fixing. Arranged match-fixing occurs when corruptors manipulate a football match to ensure one team loses or draws. Meanwhile, gambling match-fixing occurs when corruptors manipulate with the aim of gaining maximum profit in the betting market. However, gambling does influence the results of sporting matches a lot because many people bet. So the main goal is definitely profit. Basically, match fixing is not cheating behavior. Score fixing occurs when a party agrees to lose, draw, or win for the other party by not trying their best.

One of the biggest score-fixing scandals in football, and involved big clubs such as Juventus, AC Milan and Fiorentina who were found to be fixing match results through influencing the referee, around 2006. Starting from an investigation into the Italian consulting office GEA World, telephone recordings were spread which involved Juventus general manager, Luciano Moggi, to be able to arrange the desired referee. Apart from Juventus, A.C. Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio and Reggina are also involved. In the aftermath of this case, several club owners, referees and club officials involved received suspensions and prison sentences. I am sure that to this day match fixing still exists and this is in business and definitely produces big profits.

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Op to be honest I do puzzle in some matches to know the reasons behind why most game ends the way they do after when one have seen clear means and opportunity of the other opponent to win but they will keep missing the goal , it show there is some things behind.foot ball is business and every business man need where he will make profit, remember in every match many prediction by gamblers  and betting is already there those Data is where their money come they check and balance where them wi make more money and play the game that way , most game is they more you look the less you see despite the fact many argue is  impossible as life match but I believe such things happened.

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I do believe on it but there's a catch. It doesn't happen mostly on the bigger leagues and you'd see them often goes on with the smaller leagues or with the unpopular ones. They're prone to match fixing and that's why if you ever want to avoid them, you need to choose the sports and leagues that you want to bet because you'll never know, that small league that you're going to play YOLO and bet on them is already a rigged match. But here are just our opinions and we don't have proof but gut feels of most of us says that it does happen.

In most cases, we will only hear rumours. Even if some of them are true, no one can give a solid evidence that the match is being fixed. Also, if you are very familiar with the performance of the athletes inside the field, you will have your gut feel if they are really under the spell of match fixing.

In bigger leagues, it is hard to arrange this as a lot of people are focused on them, and people will see if there will be change of movement of that athlete. They will see it clear if people are closely following them.

It is possible, but of course, once you get caught and you are part of the officials there's a higher chance there's a sanction with your actions could be terminated, or disqualified depending on the organisation of the event, actually not even in the sports OP mentioned but also in other sports that have a large names and titles will get fighting for the winners, actions can easily notice by the viewers they are supporting each other teams with their bias and they can easily smell something suspicious if there's any happening during the game.
For small leagues then yes but for those big ones then its unlikely or close to impossible but its really that hard to determine if ever they would really be tending to fixed up those matches or movements because
they wont really be that fool enough for them to make it obvious and would be making it as not noticeable if ever they would be having plans but of course they are risking their career for that.  Grin
We've seen already several athletes has been that involved with this one and we do know on where they do end up. Even on other sports as well on which this is something that could really happen
and of course to those who get caught then we do know that they would be sanctioned or would really be banned neither forever or a period of time.

Op to be honest I do puzzle in some matches to know the reasons behind why most game ends the way they do after when one have seen clear means and opportunity of the other opponent to win but they will keep missing the goal , it show there is some things behind.foot ball is business and every business man need where he will make profit, remember in every match many prediction by gamblers  and betting is already there those Data is where their money come they check and balance where them wi make more money and play the game that way , most game is they more you look the less you see despite the fact many argue is  impossible as life match but I believe such things happened.
There are really indeed moments or times like this on which you would really be having that kind of suspicions whenever you do see odd movements or even with those
ref calls on which it would be giving out that kind of impression that there's something wrong with it. Although it cant be proven out but sometimes
you could be able to point out that there's something behind but well there's nothing we can do about it.
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Hard to believe that it happens in the biggest football leagues. If there have been real scenarios of it, a lifetime ban or big fine will be given to the athlete.

For small leagues then yes but for those big ones then its unlikely or close to impossible but its really that hard to determine if ever they would really be tending to fixed up those matches or movements because
they wont really be that fool enough for them to make it obvious and would be making it as not noticeable if ever they would be having plans but of course they are risking their career for that.
Most of them aren't fool to let themselves get involved to a match fixing. A lifetime career versus to a quick money that is going to ruin them not just their career but also their lives forever.

A wise sportsman will never do that out of his need because they're paid with a lot of money with their contracts.

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May 24, 2024, 09:11:56 PM
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Do you believe in match fixing?

No doubt, YES!
It may not be noticeable for bigger leagues, but there a few players who's been caught in participating to fix a match or trying to influence the betting system. I am not a huge fan of football, but in the NBA the most recent player involvement in this cases was Jontay Porter.
This match fixing issues are more rampant on a lower league, because not a lot of people are gonna notice it especially for the sports that are really hard to stage a game, like football and basketball.
I've seen one before a couple of years back, it was very obvious. It was a local basketball league and the players were purposedly missing their free throws and purposely loosen their defense without them knowing that it was very obvious to the audience. They were investigated and got suspended eventually.
I think one of the easiest sport to fix or to stage is boxing or any combat sport.
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this

It is difficult to prove whether the match between Man City vs Tottenham was really fixed because there is no evidence, but from several cases that have occurred in my country, match fixing is indeed true. There are many bookies out there who are willing to spend big money in order to make a profit from match fixing and this has been happening for decades since people knew how to bet on football, this is still a weakness of the football system, the cheating that occurs is still quite difficult to directly proven.



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Yes I do believe on it, although it would be hard to prove, but such thing isn't impossible.
Bribing athletes just to lose match in order to win a high stake bets, surely this has happened so many times before.
There are also times that when a good team or athletes lose or make some huge mistake, it would get me to think that maybe it was intentional, maybe they just throw the game because they got paid for it.



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May 24, 2024, 10:27:49 PM
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I used to hear people say that most of the matches are being fixed by the football body such that they make sure that the matches play according to how they fixed them to play and the reason why the VAR was introduced was even to help in actualizing the match fixing. How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour? Even some players are sometimes suspected to have been part of a match fixing just like in the match between Tottenham and Manchester city when Son Heung-min was one on one with Manchester City's goal keeper Ederson but he played the ball directly to the goal keeper and after the match, Pep Guardiola went to shake him and people were wondering if the match was fixed to favour Manchester city. So let's deliberate on this

It is true that there are still fixed games unfortunately, but they have been very rare cases of them happening in the main leagues of each country and when you look at a league like the premier league which is a very popular league around the world, and a league that many people watch, so we would hardly see fixed games, Manchester City is a very strong team that has a high quality coach and a high quality squad, Manchester City does not need to participate in fixed match schedules and in the Tottenham game against manchester city, in my opinion it was clear that manchester city won on their own merit, tottenham are a disaster, I was even surprised that they managed to resist so much and left the game with only 2 goals conceded, I expected manchester city to be score at least 4 goals in that game against tottenham

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May 26, 2024, 03:18:04 PM
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As soon as people start to divide each other on categories by the amount of power they have, corruption, bribery and fixed matches appears. When someone has a little more right, power or able to influence on others, the idea of using all that for own benefit starts to grow. As well as everything and everyone has a price. I do believe in fixed matches.
I think it's not only about division or comparison but there are just people who are greedy and they feel better if they have more or they can do things effortlessly (bribery for instance). Even though we don't have those qualities you mentioned there, it is still possible to get involved with match-fixing by mainly paying the organizers of it. 

I have seen people give extra attention or have special attitude towards others in exchange for benefit. I can not call it as a fixed match, but I have seen how referee closed eyes on little rules violation of one team, and was more strict to other.
I think it can also be called as biasness and bribery must be present with that because if not, then I don't think someone will do that. As long as it is happening in a game, then it can also be considered as match-fixing. Little violation is only little but it was still a violation, so indeed that the referees must be fair and call it whenever it occurs in any side.

How true is this because what will be the benefit of fixing match without any benefits or do the football body do some secret gambling and makes sure it goes in their favour?
I guess that the entire team does not need to be participating in a match fixing; some two or three players involving  for ensuring not to score is enough to gain from a fixed match. I mean a football body itself does not need to be involving in a match fixing but when some players are doing then gamblers might earn what they aim.
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May 26, 2024, 04:00:15 PM
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Yes I do believe on it, although it would be hard to prove, but such thing isn't impossible.
Bribing athletes just to lose match in order to win a high stake bets, surely this has happened so many times before.
There are also times that when a good team or athletes lose or make some huge mistake, it would get me to think that maybe it was intentional, maybe they just throw the game because they got paid for it.

The possibility of athletes being bribed to intentionally lose matches for the benefit of high-stake bets is indeed a concerning issue.While proving such occurrences can be challenging it's not outside the realm of possibility.Unfortunately there have been instances in the past where athletes or teams have been implicated in match-fixing scandals highlighting the dark side of sports betting.

The suspicion arises particularly when unexpected outcomes occur such as a strong team or athlete suddenly underperforming.While it's important to avoid jumping to conclusions without concrete evidence it's also crucial to remain vigilant and address any suspicions through thorough investigation and enforcement of anti-corruption measures.

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Do you believe in match fixing? Yes

Let me tell you what I know about fixed matches. From what I have seen in our country second and even first league, where  the entire team along with their managers and the administration, receive money and bribes to intentionally lose some matches. I witnessed this with my regional team, where some players admitted to being bribed, and managers directly asked players to lose in exchange for extra payment.

I wasn’t really interested in following these matches closely or betting on them, as it is unethical and could cause issues with sportsbooks. However, some gamblers make good money on these matches when they are sure the match is fixed and manipulated. Sometimes, even the score is predetermined.

If anyone here wants to verify these cases, I can provide evidence and videos of matches that are obviously manipulated.

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May 26, 2024, 04:31:56 PM
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So you think in the match between Manchester City and Totteham it was match-fixing, how can you think like this that there were even many incidents where players kicked the ball and were denied by the goalkeeper. so for me this is biased towards that.

About match-fixing it may still exist but in the minor leagues and this is often we encounter news some time ago, but for the big leagues, especially Europe, it is no longer possible to have match-fixing.

So for league matches in Europe I don't believe in match-fixing.
This is how they deceive many people with match-fixing. Match-fixing isn't meant to be obvious, especially when one team appears stronger than the other. I also believe there are many subtle ways to manipulate a match that players may not even be aware of, such as giving them substances that unknowingly weaken their performance. I don't want to sound like a criminal, but do you know how many powerful individuals are involved in match-fixing and the enormous sums of money they make from it? Gambling is one of the biggest and shadiest markets in the world, involving a lot of wealthy people.
I wouldn't doubt the fact that fixing games do exist but one thing i think will be true about it is in the fact that its most definitely not going to be something that will be made obvious and common amongst too many gamblers so they don't eventually get to draw the attention of the bookies to the fact that there's a fixed game which will hamper their chances of making money or probably get to reduce how much they will be able to win at once. According to that which is stated by you in the fact that gambling can be really shady and all that, its now obvious that its amongst the wealthy and powerful men which make such information's highly classified and not such that will be seen all around on social platforms.

Match fixing if it does happen is most definitely not going to appear so obvious that it will be noticed by the general public as its most definitely goin to affect their business some other time from now hence they make sure not to make it that obvious enough that gamblers get to know jus how it is except for the elites who are involved of which i feel they may get some of the casinos involved because huge funds are usually involved in activities such as this.


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May 26, 2024, 04:56:15 PM
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I mean, keeping in mind the current state of the world and how corruption can appear to be all around us, I would not be surprised if matches of high leagues are also fixed.
I knew there were some match fixing present within small leagues and because of that I never felt compeled to bet on those. Though, you are talking about a very different kind of corruption and match fixing, which in order to function and stay undercover would need the complicity of very important authorities and presidents of sport federations.

In short, I think it could be going on, but it would be very difficult to prove, players will always deny their alledged involvement in match fixing, because in the same moment they admit their crime, they career and the credibility of the club would be over.
if anyone ever has some evidence of it happening, then it could be one of the biggest scandals on the history of football (depending on the players and clubs taking part on it)

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