Can soccer players collaborate with gamblers to help them win there bet?

[DaNNy001]

Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.

I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true,  what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.

What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?

It's actually quite unfortunate how most of these player behave even while they are retained in a good reputable football club. Though they might not necessarily have agreement with a gambling company before they make their own decisions which will in turn affect their football career forever. I believe they make these decisions out of greed, they must have secretly staked a bet on themselves to play otherwise and based on the fact that the odds are doing to be high when they play against their usual abilities they might as well make a good stake to get more profit. But unknown to them that FIFA is quite sensitive with little informations and investigation most of them often get caught. Just like Ivan Toney's case who also bet on himself but latter got caught. They will all face either ban or fined by FIFA and that will also reduce their market value as most club wouldn't want to accept a selfish footballer into their team.

[Gozie51]

What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?

Well I won't be so surprised about this but I could feel bad about it because it will lead to distrust in football games and betting if it becomes obvious since it is possible to happen. The reason I said I won't be surprised is that footballers are people's friends, brothers and family members so they can easily be influenced to do an act that will favour the betting option of those related to them whom they know their betting option on them. So like we have seen, it is quite easy to commit a fowl and be penalized on it whilst the betting option to that effect will become successful. It is even possible that the player will have a percentage of the betting winning or even ask a friend to bet on their behalf, thereby giving them huge money to do that, I think this is the corruption in football and it is gradually being infiltrated into the game. If this does not stop, the genuity of the game will be a forgone thing and the game will lose its taste.

[Cantsay]

I have always known that it’s possible for fixed match to happen in small teams but I the thought of it happening in this type of league has never crossed my mind due to what the players would be risking if they were to be found guilty of doing such a thing.

I don't think it is just greed I also perceive an element of addiction in it because just for fun and for the possibility that they can do it, some gamblers may attempt trying to influence games in their own favor while betting huge amounts of money on it.

I don’t think addiction has anything to do in this situation - I think they are rules that prevents athletes from betting in games that they are involved with directly or indirectly (since there are possibilities of them influencing the game to favour them) so I don’t think the player in question was the one that profited from his action, I believe what he did was to make a deal with someone and promised to take the yellow card for some whatever they might have settled for.

[knowngunman]

What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?

It's very possible to happen and it might be true but reasonable evidence is suppose to be provided to prove him guilty. This is not the first we are hearing issues like this of professional players compromising the game for the sake of betting. What is strange to me here is collaborating with gamblers just to make a peanut from gambling. It's not wise at all to make this kind of deal with anyone considering how people publicize everything on media this days. Accepting to receive a yellow card for someone to make money is even sounding unreasonable to my head because it's not a good record for a player. I support whatever punishment he deserves because if things like this should continue, our favorite sports will become ruin and no longer interesting to watch.

just curious, which wrestling are you talking about? If you are talking about WWE, that "sport" is scripted and the results of the "matches" there are predetermined unless something unexpected happens.

I have heard about this WWE sport being scripted with a film trick actions but I don't know the rationale behind it. During our childhood, it was among my favorite sports that I watch on television with so much interest. I felt embarrassed and disappointed when I discovered that it was a script and I regret wasting my time watching it. I find it hard to believe even after I watched some scenes that proved it to be a script sports because I don't understand why people will pay to watch a scripted fight live. Are they not aware that they are watching film show instead of reality? God knows I can not pay money to watch a scripted fight even if I have the means to. It's totally a waste of time and resources.

[Hatchy]

What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?

The world is already corrupt, though ive not heard of such attempts or cheating before when it comes to soccer, but I've always taught if it was possible for a player to just cheat the whole system and have others gamble while he makes their bet come through. It's the first one in soccer and I guess it was actually planned out properly. Wonder how he got caught though it would be so obvious if he was caught on camera at the point where he intentionally made a fowl. It's soccer and anything can be possible, if he's able to prove all that was a lie then good for him but if he was actually caught then it's wrong as other players might just adopt his idea and turn soccer into something else.

[retreat]

Not only players, referees and officials, many also work together with casinos and gamblers to make the game run according to orders. However, usually things like this happen in smaller leagues, where the regulations are not as strict as in popular leagues such as the Premier, Serie A, etc. That's why I was also a little surprised when a Premier League player was involved in a case like this, especially since he didn't just do it in 1 match, but in 4 matches, and that threatened him with a 10 year ban. It is very unfortunate how such a young player could be involved in a soccer gambling case and have his career threatened to end very early even though he should be able to make much more money considering his pretty good performance in the premier league.

[Solosanz]

As long as there's money, anything is possible.

Someone can do something shameful in order to get paid, someone can sell their soul in order to receive more money, while Lucas Paqueta isn't a popular player, he's not Mbappe, Haaland, Ronaldo, Messi etc where a many projects want to collaborate and don't mind to pay billion Dollars.

Lucas Paqueta will repeat this kind mistake in the future since people can't change.

[Doan9269]

Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.

This is just a simple illustration on working under assumption because there is no base on which the fact about the player action could be established, they may thought about the reason for his action whereas that is not the actual condition of what led to the action he made, we cannot fully predict on the real situation except that we heard it from the player himself, and i dot think what they receives as player is that small compared to the action they may acted leading to such penalty.

[Zlantann]

There are thousands of football players in the world, we should know that some of them will be corrupt to do something to make money. This should not surprise anyone and there are some other players that will do the same thing. If this can be seen in English top leagues, you can see how it can be common on other leagues, especially the lower leagues. In one way or the other, there would be manipulations.

It is common to see these corrupt practices in low-class leagues in some parts of the world. But for a player who earns £130,000 per week to engage in this match-fixing, it is clearly associated with greed.

I don't think it is just greed I also perceive an element of addiction in it because just for fun and for the possibility that they can do it, some gamblers may attempt trying to influence games in their own favor while betting huge amounts of money on it. I am not surprised that these players do not learn because even in this forum, people still continue to plagiarize, and use AI even when they know the consequences, I see it as an overconfidence that they can do something against the rules and not be caught. As a player, you may be under investigation without you knowing.

Although gambling addiction is different from cheating the system, there are few cases of players whose gambling addiction contributed to their involvement in match-fixing. Sandro Tonali agent Beppe Riso declared that his client is having a gambling illness. He received a ten-month ban for placing a bet on his team, Newcastle. Ivan Toney, who was banned for eight months for match-fixing, also acknowledged his gambling addiction struggles since he was fifteen. In Lucas Paqueta's case, I think he thought he would never be caught since the bet was placed in his hometown, Paqueta Island, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. He never knew that it would be tracked and flagged by the International Betting Integrity Association (IBIA), and reported to FIFA.

[EarnOnVictor]

Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.

I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true,  what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.

What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?

This is very serious if it is true and it is sad for soccer games too because it will make the sport less attractive if it is now being planned beforehand. I read the news as well but I never took it seriously, but this time that match-fixing allegation is getting more popular, I believe that one should not take something like this lightly anymore. Although people may believe this or not, regardless, before a key player like that had to be sanctioned means the investigation would have gotten to some concluding end, that's bad. This is why I made a similar remark in my last post that is related to match-fixing that no one is to be trusted.

This is so unfortunate to be sincere.

[Bravut]

This isn't a big deal neither is it new. Most players have been suspended tol for gambling and associating with casinos. Not only players, referees, officials and also shareholders are involved. Nothing will change, my concern is who are the "two or more persons he helped", what relationship do they have, who let the news breakout?

It's laughable, he might be fined and still free. Gambling is manipulative, so is it not only in football any sport event at all. Underground deals goes on.

[nelson4lov]

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What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?

I don't know Lucas paqueta's heart so at best, I can only speculate. Even though Paqueta has refuted the claim by the English FA, I'm of the opinion that he did do it. I have watched a couple of west ham games these season and some of his tackles are very questionable due to how intentional they look like when the foul is committed. What's worrying in all of this is the fact that in the last 3 years, we're getting more and more incidents like this ajd if they're not properly punished, others will follow suit and the beloved game will be destroyed.

[Zigabel]

Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.

I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true,  what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.

What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?

I think even fifa should look into this and a rule should be created for players who does any of such, if they ever found wanting probably after investigation, such player should be fined or penalized accordingly and thst way others who has got such intentions will eventually learn and probably get to desist from it because it's actually going to affect the team because if every players Start putting up performance that will get these gamblers to win their bets and probably get to pay this players for such then the corrupt nature of football will definitely be such that people may begin to loose interest in the business of football and gambling.

It may have worked with other sports such as boxing and wrestling because they are a single man game buy with football it's collective and not an individual game so the effect will always get to be born by the whole team which is definitely not going to be something the team is going to be actually okay with neither will the management or the fans of the team.

[$crypto$]

Just heard about this news where Lucas Paqueta got into trouble due to the arrangement he made for the gamblers to win if he was yellow carded, this is not strange but a little surprising for Premier League players because this league is really tight so I don't think players do that for their own interests.

I remember when Tonali was also punished for gambling but what I know is that he was playing gambling not committing an offense like Lucas Paqueta but still if it is caught then it will be punished for breaking the rules.

Remember that people have a temper even if they have a decent job, so when an organization pays behind if the player wants maybe he can do it.

[Frankolala]

Shit happens as long as we have different players from different backgrounds and different behaviors. This is why you should expected the unexpected, but what makes it a professional league is that at the end the player will be caught amd get banned.

Unlike a small league that it is a norm to them and their will be no penalty after they notice it, because it is allowed. Wonders shall never end and we will keep seeing such things but once in a while.

He might feel he is helping those gamblers unknown to him that he is playing with his career.

[0t3p0t]

Well yeah, that is extra money for them that is why they sometimes play such dirty tricks or their own good but yeah, is that how you are rich enough to pay a player to mess up on their team and let gamblers win? Money is money and I know there are a lot of them doing that like a hollywood star that sometimes it don't even look suspicious unless a referee is also part of the gameplan which sometimes make it more obvious.

[uneng]

What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?

Yes, it's not only possible, but also likely to be true. Sentences for players who collaborate with gamblers in order to manipulate a match's events should be harsh. The athlete who acts this way is a traitor of the sport he practices. It's like a doctor who swore an oath to save lives, but start acting in his profession to murder his patients to steal their organs in order to sell for extra profit. These people should be immediately suspended from their functions and forbidden to play further championships and official matches through national teams.

That is how society could show how shameful the acts of these professionals are, by putting them aside from every activities. Regards this case you mentioned, it's said this player can be suspended for a timeframe of 10 years. In my opinion the penalty applied is totally justified, and has to be useful as a warning for other players who are doing the same or thinking about doing the same.

[Coin_trader]

I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant
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just curious, which wrestling are you talking about? If you are talking about WWE, that "sport" is scripted and the results of the "matches" there are predetermined unless something unexpected happens.

WWE is not the original wrestling. It’s the entertainment wrestling which is not the sports but there’s an original wrestling sports which is very popular on other country especially on the olympics. Wrestling is a form of grappling which is being used by Russians on UFC especially Kabib.

Although, I understand you for considering WWE as the real wrestling because this show is very popular during my childhood which even I knew it as the sports wrestling. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling

[Winterfrost]

Is it really an allegation, has it yet been proven and how was it proven. If this was really an arrangement then how come it became public it was supposed to remain confidential between him and the gamblers because his career is simply at risk. There are players both in the top leagues which is committing even worst than what he did, we can't tell untill the truth comes out. If truly he is proven then he should face the  consequences, as a professional his supposed to fully understand the rules and abide by them.

[rdluffy]

It's quite difficult to prove this kind of thing
Take a look at the moves that are being investigated:
https://www.espn.com.br/video/clipe/_/id/13696359

There's a lot of interpretation that you can take to mean that it was a normal play or that it was forced, it's a very difficult situation without having other evidence

And it's quite serious, especially given the player's fame, he plays in the Premier League and is a member of the Brazilian national team.
If it is proven, there has to be an exemplary punishment, even more so because nowadays there are many bookmakers who sponsor soccer, and they need everything to be done correctly