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May 26, 2024, 07:13:38 PM
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There is a report for a reliable source that Spence is making his comeback fight this October against the recent WBC champion Sebastian Fundora at 154 lbs. So it's obvious that the rematch with Crawford is not going to happen at 147 lbs as both have move up to Jr. Middleweight already.

As Crawford has a scheduled fight with Madrimov with the WBA belt on the line as well.



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Big test literally for Spence to make a comeback fighting the tall Fundora.

What's your take in this fight? Spence might be the favorite when the betting line opens.

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May 26, 2024, 08:23:41 PM
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What's your take in this fight? Spence might be the favorite when the betting line opens.

Based on the odds listed in https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/sebastian-fundora-v-errol-spence-jr... yes....
Spence is listed at -250, while his opponent is +210. By his popularity, he should be the favorite, and he is moving up so probably he think he is more comfortable at this weight even against a taller guy. However, I would not bet on him despite being the favorite as I find him slow after he got schooled by Crawford, I don't know but I have this feeling that he'll experience his 2nd loss.

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May 26, 2024, 08:49:57 PM
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What's your take in this fight? Spence might be the favorite when the betting line opens.

Based on the odds listed in https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/sebastian-fundora-v-errol-spence-jr... yes....
Spence is listed at -250, while his opponent is +210. By his popularity, he should be the favorite, and he is moving up so probably he think he is more comfortable at this weight even against a taller guy. However, I would not bet on him despite being the favorite as I find him slow after he got schooled by Crawford, I don't know but I have this feeling that he'll experience his 2nd loss.

Correct, there should be question in Spence because on how Crawford dominated him. And maybe if Fundora can hurt him in this fight, he will see flashes of that fight and so he will be affected mentally. And with that way Fundora won his fight against Tim Tszyu, it was a bloody fight but it shows how tough he is and so Spence will be tested here and we don't know if he still has it.

Most likely winner facing the winner of Madrimov and Crawford fight for another unification at 154 lbs.

Also there is a issue with Spence and his former trainer Derrick James, and so wondering who will train Spence in this fight and that legal battle could be a noise as well in the background for him.

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May 26, 2024, 09:00:57 PM
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What's your take in this fight? Spence might be the favorite when the betting line opens.

Based on the odds listed in https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/sebastian-fundora-v-errol-spence-jr... yes....
Spence is listed at -250, while his opponent is +210. By his popularity, he should be the favorite, and he is moving up so probably he think he is more comfortable at this weight even against a taller guy. However, I would not bet on him despite being the favorite as I find him slow after he got schooled by Crawford, I don't know but I have this feeling that he'll experience his 2nd loss.

Correct, there should be question in Spence because on how Crawford dominated him. And maybe if Fundora can hurt him in this fight, he will see flashes of that fight and so he will be affected mentally. And with that way Fundora won his fight against Tim Tszyu, it was a bloody fight but it shows how tough he is and so Spence will be tested here and we don't know if he still has it.

Most likely winner facing the winner of Madrimov and Crawford fight for another unification at 154 lbs.


His last fight was July 2023, so he is off for almost a year, it's just right to question his capability as he came from a big loss in that undisputed fight versus Crawford. And yes, Fundora is a tough guy, he was a heavy dog against Tim Tszyu but he manage to beat the champion.

I have checked his record on his popular site, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/773847.. it seems like the fight is not yet added, so let's wait until it's officially announce but I would say that this is a great comeback fight for Spence.

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Also there is a issue with Spence and his former trainer Derrick James, and so wondering who will train Spence in this fight and that legal battle could be a noise as well in the background for him.
He needs to find a new one, someone that is good and he trust, he can't train with a trainer anymore if he is not fully confident the trainer is not anymore effective for him.

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May 26, 2024, 09:18:51 PM
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Errol Spence has to improve his quickness if he wants to beat the current champion.

On the height comparison, there's a huge difference as it looks like David vs Goliath.

Errol Spence : 5"10'
Sebastian Fundora : 6"6'

If this is the fight of Canelo, I would think that it's easy for him but I haven't see Spence yet beat a very all boxer, so this is his first time to challenge a big one that is also heavy at the same time. Being a challenger, he needs to show his aggressiveness so if this will reach to the scorecards ( in case he can't KO Fundora) he would earn a nod to the judges.

Good luck for him, hopefully he can comeback to being a champion so he'll meet with Crawford again in this division.

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May 26, 2024, 09:43:55 PM
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This fight shows up in my feeds there's still no date of the fight but I'm sure this fight will happen, Errol also hinted at retirement after this fight Fundora.

Spence May Retire After Title Fight With Fundora

This is the first time Spence will be fighting a boxer who is much taller than him but his chances of beating Fundora are good because Fundora although a very tall guy is not using his height and reach advantage to the fullest he prefers to slug it out and this is where Spence excel Brian Mendoza has shown to the world how to beat a guy like Fundora so I'm sure Spence knows where to target Fundora.

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May 26, 2024, 10:02:57 PM
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This fight shows up in my feeds there's still no date of the fight but I'm sure this fight will happen, Errol also hinted at retirement after this fight Fundora.

Spence May Retire After Title Fight With Fundora

This is the first time Spence will be fighting a boxer who is much taller than him but his chances of beating Fundora are good because Fundora although a very tall guy is not using his height and reach advantage to the fullest he prefers to slug it out and this is where Spence excel Brian Mendoza has shown to the world how to beat a guy like Fundora so I'm sure Spence knows where to target Fundora.

The huge difference in height might be a significant factor in this match. Since Spence knows his disadvantage on this aspect, he should very well enhance all the other aspects of his boxing skills. Otherwise, he can easily be defeated by Fundora. And that for sure will send him to his retirement. And I don't think he would want to retire as a loser.

Aside from that, Fundora is much younger than Spence and fought recently. So this is not an easy fight for Spence. The odds may be close to each other. But I guess, this fight may go the distance if both boxers will be too careful with their moves inside the ring. Let us wait first for the confirmation of this fight. Maybe, they are still arranging the purse split for these 2 boxers.

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May 26, 2024, 10:40:48 PM
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At last, they are finalizing it, if you all remember Spence called out Fundora after he beat Tszyu, Spence is raring to go for a title shot after that humiliating loss to Crawford, he wants to bounce back quickly at the expense of Fundora.
This is a very interesting fight, Fundora was an underdog against Tzsyu but he managed to prove naysayers wrong he could do the same here, Spence is a favourite here but we never know his state of mind if he is ready to face tough fighters like Fundora, instead of getting a tune fight Spence right away go for a title shot and Fundora is not an easy fight.
But I believe with Spence's experience he can pull this one and regain the titles.

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May 26, 2024, 11:01:46 PM
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Spence has not won a fight in 2 years, and the last time he was in the ring he took a serious beating against Crawford. There is reason to question whether Spence can still become champion. Fundora is a very flawed fighter who was lucky to become champion because Tim Tszyu fought almost their entire fight while being blinded by his own blood.

The WBO will probably strip Fundora for not fighting his mandatory, Terence Crawford. It is obvious that neither of these fighters can really compete against Crawford, which is why Al Haymon is having them fight each other instead and was willing to give up 1 of the belts.

There is also the matter of Serhii Bohachuk, who is WBC interim champion. The WBC created a mess by having multiple champions, but as long as they are collecting twice as many fees there will be no urgency to order a unification.

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May 26, 2024, 11:55:59 PM
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Errol Spence has to improve his quickness if he wants to beat the current champion.

On the height comparison, there's a huge difference as it looks like David vs Goliath.

Errol Spence : 5"10'
Sebastian Fundora : 6"6'
This is true, the height comparison and his quickness matters the most which will push him in the corner of getting beat. His last fight with Bud makes him like an amateur who can't throw a precise punch, he should work hard on it to get the fame back or else he will just end up like Thurman.

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Not taking anything away from Spence, but he seems to have lost the hunger for a match, the eagerness to face another fighter inside the ring. I'm not sure if this is personal or something that has to do with the team, management, or promoter, but it's such a waste that he's been inactive. Time isn't on his side anymore.

It took him more than a year of inactivity before he fought Crawford. Now, it's the same thing all over again. He'll be fighting after more than a year of inactivity. Even prior to fighting Ugas back in 2022, he was also inactive for more than a year. Was he seriously affected by his accident? Was he facing certain problems to begin with?

Spence has the power but I think Fundora can manage to outscore him, even KO him if he's lucky. Fundora's advantage in height and reach alone isn't a small advantage.

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After losing badly to Crawford, this is the time for Spence to reclaim his reputation.
I just look at how good this Fundora is, and he's tall for a welterweight fighter, but a bit slow for me.

Ever since he got into an accident that affected his eye, he's been inactive for quite some time, and he's fighting at least once a year only. Maybe that accident affected his career like what many analysts did said in the past as well, and it really is. Even though it's Spence who is the favorite to win this fight, I think there's still a chance for Fundora to win. It's not the same, but I'm thinking that Fundora's reach advantage will be utilized in this fight. I mean he has an 8-inch reach advantage, and for sure, he will be utilizing it by throwing more jabs just like what Bivol did to Canelo when they fought.

I want to put my bet on Spence, but his inactivity of more than a year might affect his performance.

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I expected a rematch with Crawford but I guess we are not going to be seeing that anytime soon. As for the forth coming match with I am not so enthusiastic about. In boxing are we seeing fights fixed based on the revenue that they can generate? It looks as if they are more or less looking to maximize profits for the fighters rather than for championships titles. Because, why aren't we having a rematch between Spence and Crawford? Well, in this match, my bet is on Spence. His chances of winning are higher than that of Sebastian Fundora.

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It appears Errol Spence found a not very difficult fight to become champion again hehehe. I am not quite certain if Sebastian Fundora is a very good boxer, however, his victory against Tim Tszyu was very much an upset. I am not quite certain why Tszyu did not decide for an immediate rematch. Does this imply that Fundora is a very good fighter that Tszyu underestimated? I have not followed this man's career.

@Boafeng, @bisdak40. What is your opinion on Fundora and what is your prediction on how he will perform vs. Errol?

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It appears Errol Spence found a not very difficult fight to become champion again hehehe. I am not quite certain if Sebastian Fundora is a very good boxer, however, his victory against Tim Tszyu was very much an upset. I am not quite certain why Tszyu did not decide for an immediate rematch. Does this imply that Fundora is a very good fighter that Tszyu underestimated? I have not followed this man's career.

@Boafeng, @bisdak40. What is your opinion on Fundora and what is your prediction on how he will perform vs. Errol?

If only Tim Tszyu didn't suffered a nasty cut on his fight against Fundora, i'm quite certain that Tim would win that fight as he is the better fighter for me talent-wise.

I do agree that Errol Spence's path to be a champion once again is an easy, no offense meant to the fans of Fundora but the talent level of these boxers is not on the same level. There might be a chance that Spence will struggle at the early stage of the fight due to inactivity but somehow i think he will figure out a way to beat Fundora.

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Errol Spence has to improve his quickness if he wants to beat the current champion.
if he can work out in his speed and accuracy then he might hit a chance of winning this bout and hope that His team will look and train for this area.
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On the height comparison, there's a huge difference as it looks like David vs Goliath.

Errol Spence : 5"10'
Sebastian Fundora : 6"6'
it is always advantageous if you have the reach but remember that it is the speed that mostly matters and the strong punches that is accurate.

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Good luck for him, hopefully he can comeback to being a champion so he'll meet with Crawford again in this division.
lets hope for him to have a good comeback.

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It appears Errol Spence found a not very difficult fight to become champion again hehehe. I am not quite certain if Sebastian Fundora is a very good boxer, however, his victory against Tim Tszyu was very much an upset. I am not quite certain why Tszyu did not decide for an immediate rematch. Does this imply that Fundora is a very good fighter that Tszyu underestimated? I have not followed this man's career.

@Boafeng, @bisdak40. What is your opinion on Fundora and what is your prediction on how he will perform vs. Errol?

If only Tim Tszyu didn't suffered a nasty cut on his fight against Fundora, i'm quite certain that Tim would win that fight as he is the better fighter for me talent-wise.
Tim is a better overall boxer than Fundora, no offense to his fans. But it was just a accident and we felt sorry for Tim for losing that big fight as he could be the one facing Errol Spence here. Nevertheless, Tim can still get back his belt if he will win against Vergil Ortiz.

I do agree that Errol Spence's path to be a champion once again is an easy, no offense meant to the fans of Fundora but the talent level of these boxers is not on the same level. There might be a chance that Spence will struggle at the early stage of the fight due to inactivity but somehow i think he will figure out a way to beat Fundora.
One thing that might go against Spence here is the big psychological lost that Crawford gave to him. He should taken a tune up fight first just to get back his confidence here. Btu I guess he thinks that he is still ok even if he had the big mental scar already and his 0 is gone.

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Spence is taking a risky route for a comeback Fundora is coming up with a great win because he was an underdog and many people did not expect him to win the match against Tszyu, he announced that this could be his last fight but we never know it is just his strategy, he is only 34 years and he is still competitive.

I don't want to judge Spence based on one fight, he just fought Crawford who is considered a very good fighter but with other fighters, he can still be dominant he is still the favorite based on the odds but that will likely change as the match progresses its interesting to see them in their press conferences and promotions.

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Spence is taking a risky route for a comeback Fundora is coming up with a great win because he was an underdog and many people did not expect him to win the match against Tszyu, he announced that this could be his last fight but we never know it is just his strategy, he is only 34 years and he is still competitive.

Yeah, I also heard that Spence is contemplating retirement, and I don't know, if boxers says that they will retire soon, most likely they have a feeling that they don't have it anymore. Maybe he just want another last good fight and become a champion again. But there could be doubts in his mind going into this fight.

I don't want to judge Spence based on one fight, he just fought Crawford who is considered a very good fighter but with other fighters, he can still be dominant he is still the favorite based on the odds but that will likely change as the match progresses its interesting to see them in their press conferences and promotions.

It will still be the same Spence though, but the thing is that Derrick James, who has guided his career is no longer in his side as they have a bitter divorce to the point that James resorted into legal means for the compensation that he thinks he deserved when he trained Spence throughout his career.

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After losing badly to Crawford, this is the time for Spence to reclaim his reputation.
I just look at how good this Fundora is, and he's tall for a welterweight fighter, but a bit slow for me.

Ever since he got into an accident that affected his eye, he's been inactive for quite some time, and he's fighting at least once a year only. Maybe that accident affected his career like what many analysts did said in the past as well, and it really is. Even though it's Spence who is the favorite to win this fight, I think there's still a chance for Fundora to win. It's not the same, but I'm thinking that Fundora's reach advantage will be utilized in this fight. I mean he has an 8-inch reach advantage, and for sure, he will be utilizing it by throwing more jabs just like what Bivol did to Canelo when they fought.

I want to put my bet on Spence, but his inactivity of more than a year might affect his performance.

I actually think he is doing this very cleverly. He is giving his body good enough time to recover. After each fight he is taking the time off that is necessary for him. Does that affect his performance somewhat? Of course, it does.

But I think the recovery that he gets by staying away from fighting for a certain period of time is actually worth it. I am not saying he is going to win the next fight, I am also not saying he's going to lose. But I am just saying that the decision that he has taken off staying away for some time after each fight might not necessarily be a bad one. And by the way, if he was inconsistent with his timing if he was staying awake for six months after a fight and 15 months after another, it could have affected his performance badly. But I think since he is staying away from fighting about a year after each fight, I think it is not that bad.

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