Merit sources can join casino campaigns, it's a choice

[Sandra_hakeem]

Gambling section should be about gambling and discussing gambling options, not a fan base on telling us what the score was and who scored, and who they think the bets player is.

You know what posting on a mega narrative thread does? especially on prediction threads? It creates an opportunity for them to spontaneously rephrase every post that has a bit of an unclear insight - maybe due to choice of words, language impediment etc, in a more profound wordings, still on the same thread.
I sometimes, out of curiosity, check in to read a few lines of the flapdoodle and how they correlate. The very day I stopped posting on threads like that was when I noticed the monkey games in there; literally, nobody makes any post to prove a point. It's always about increasing their postcount.
Y'all also notice that most of them make 15 - 19 gibberish post out of, say, 25 weekly post ? Isn't that enough nonsense to make it make sense?

One in a hundred and the ones that do so don't give a rats's ass about merit!

They don't?

[Findingnemo]

Gambling section should be about gambling and discussing gambling options, not a fan base on telling us what the score was and who scored, and who they think the bets player is.
If you want to prove there are metit worthy post there go here, it was the last updated topic when I opened the section:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441938.0
in the last 20 pages find me a few post that discusses odds and not the previous scores that are worth merit.

You have good point. Sometimes this board looks more like just Sports discussion rather than Gambling discussion. Don't see big issue about it. If it would just about posting some bets or discussing about things like gambling addiction, it would be very boring.
But sometimes you can't even call it as discussion board. Look at biggest spam megathreads and you barely can find actual discussion between members, not even talking about merit worthy posts. Wouldn't say that merit distribution isn't enough there, if your post is really good, it's likely that it will be merited

If a post is merit-worthy then it is going to be buried deep by those spam discussions again so even if members are creating merit-worthy posts the chances of getting into the visibility of merit source is very low.

Sometimes I read those mega threads it's just nothing but rephrasing and elaborating the scoreboard, nothing else but if someone really wanted to know the score they can find it better and easier than reading those stupid comments but what can we do cause they are not violating any of the forum rules so they are getting away with it, so I stopped reporting them.

[hugeblack]

Gambling board is on my ignore list, but a lot of merit sources wear gambling signatures and therefore they are forced to create posts there, which means that your chance of getting merits there is higher.

[stompix]

Began my search from the 20th page down to the 25th one and you should know it was a glance, didn't scrutinize all the posts word for word, but wasn't able to figure a post that discussed odds. But from the contexts of the thread most people engaged to the post according to the results of the match. Which is something you don't actually value. Yet it's a way of discussion.

Low quality good for nothing not interesting at all discussion!

Not that I didn't find some low quality posts, but from what I read many were in point regarding the cricket games and South African team. Why do you emphasize on discussing gambling odds as the center of attraction to quality gambling post?

Imagine the speculation section being only about what the price was yesterday, with no TA no future predictions whatsoever!
Would you call it speculation?

It's gambling, the discussions should be about gambling:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gambling

gambling - noun : the activity of betting money, for example in a game or on a horse race

How the hell can we have a board about gambling with a topic that goes for 50 pages without somebody talking about a bet ONCE!

The right word for that section would be sport discussion, and should have all signatures disabled!
Want to BET (on the results) ?

One in a hundred and the ones that do so don't give a rats's ass about merit!

They don't?

I don't care about merit either, most Legendary members don't, people who bet in the $100-$300 on a game don't care about merit requirements for a signature campaign, old gamblers there are more like the guys from WO, it's a different world than on other boards.

As for the rest of the thing about shitty quality posters, there is another experiment anyone could do, go to the last page of one of those topics and open the last post page of the last 10-20 active in that topic.
Look at how the page looks, are there 20 posts all 3-4 lines in size?
Look at a legendary guy known for gambling or one of the top 50 merited users!
The gambling section is full of 200-word quota posters that act like machines!

[Coin_trader]

You have good point. Sometimes this board looks more like just Sports discussion rather than Gambling discussion. Don't see big issue about it. If it would just about posting some bets or discussing about things like gambling addiction, it would be very boring.
But sometimes you can't even call it as discussion board. Look at biggest spam megathreads and you barely can find actual discussion between members, not even talking about merit worthy posts. Wouldn't say that merit distribution isn't enough there, if your post is really good, it's likely that it will be merited

The moderator already add the discussion of sports as part of the gambling discussion so it’s literally a sports discussion like what you described since it’s the only topic that partially related to gambling that can give lots of potential for discussion unlike the common topic on gambling like bets, addiction, strategy and so on.

Discussion of sports games

You can see this description on the gambling discussion board.

I’m not an avid fan of sports especially football which is the one being frequently discussed on that board but it’s still appealing to read some insights there when I’m doing some research for the bets I’m taking on my casual bet on football.

[Jet Cash]

I used to promote casino sites as an affiliate, and I made a fair bit of money from this. I always felt guilty, as I was aware that any money I made meant the somebody had lost 5 times as much to the casino. I did it because i was an active domain name trader, and it is useful to have active sites to promote name sales. I currently own freebitcoinbets.com which I plan to sell, so I've been tasting the market by evaluating freebitco.in. I'm not convinced at the moment, and that is why I rarely visit the gambling board. As most know, I am a merit source, and I find it difficult to imagine how posts on that board can warrant the awarding of merits. Any good posters will receive their merits by posting on other boards, and I feel this is more beneficial to the forum.

[Majestic-milf]

The problem is that they do not like to give merit to gambling posts.

This is because these sources feel majority of the users in the gambling section are shitposters and spammers so instead of seemingly encouraging these posters when you dole merits, they prefer to look to other boards. The truth is I rarely see posts get merited in the gambling board and it's something I've reconciled with so I rarely get bothered by it.

[Findingnemo]

As most know, I am a merit source, and I find it difficult to imagine how posts on that board can warrant the awarding of merits. Any good posters will receive their merits by posting on other boards, and I feel this is more beneficial to the forum.

This isn't about users get the merits from other boards, it's about how pathetic the situation of gambling board is becoming. I get that idea of gambling is pretty simple so there's not much to discuss at all but we also have to accept that casinos played a major role in the adoption of crypto as well as keeping the forum active so we can't just stand and watch it's to go down. Atleast there should be some strict moderation needed for the betterment of forum in the very particular board.

[Smartvirus]

There isn’t any rule that prohibits merit sources from being active on certain boards or joining just about any campaign that they are open to. Having this and that prohibitions would just make it less relevant. Even as it is, it doesn’t stop them from dispensing their duties as they should, they still do and the gambling board is fairly moderated too. The global mod Hilariousandco is there and still gets to kick some posts out.

Merits isn’t a huge challenge on that board. Some posts still gets merited, I’ve seen a couple of those, even The Sceptical Chymist have had to a couple of merits on gambling posts while doing reviews. Regular users on the gambling board still do as well. It remains open to all and I think you would be more supportive of that board if you ain’t just creating a thread about it but, doing some of the meriting yourself.

[Accardo]

I used to promote casino sites as an affiliate, and I made a fair bit of money from this. I always felt guilty, as I was aware that any money I made meant the somebody had lost 5 times as much to the casino. I did it because i was an active domain name trader, and it is useful to have active sites to promote name sales. I currently own freebitcoinbets.com which I plan to sell, so I've been tasting the market by evaluating freebitco.in. I'm not convinced at the moment, and that is why I rarely visit the gambling board. As most know, I am a merit source, and I find it difficult to imagine how posts on that board can warrant the awarding of merits. Any good posters will receive their merits by posting on other boards, and I feel this is more beneficial to the forum.

Surprised you got a .com extension for the domain name above. Do you have a certain concept for the site it'll be hosted on? With its meaning, visitors would expect to gain some free Bitcoin while wagering money. Was once in the domain name flipping business, how is it going? We used flippa, does it still function as it did in the past? (2016) there about.

Regarding the gambling section, too many writers are active on the board yielding enormous posts to that part of the forum and the distribution of merits would be tiring for sources due to the difficulty in finding a worthy one. Because of the fact that quantity surpasses quality in the board. That doesn't mean it's irrelevant to look out for a few merit worthy posts on there. However, on this post's contexts, if a merit source is active there, gradually he'll find time to read some responses on the board that deserves merits. This will help in building the quality of contents in the board. People tend to put in a better effort if they know it'll get rewarded, compared to when there is no form of reward available.

[taufik123]

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Atleast there should be some strict moderation needed for the betterment of forum in the very particular board.

It takes extra time to moderate gambling forums, but it is not impossible that with strict moderation,
spam comments can be overcome and also other members can report to moderators, quite simple.

I myself saw on gambling boards a lot of quite useful information about gambling.
Some people give their gambling tips, do reviews, share their gambling experiences, and many others.

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Regular users on the gambling board still do as well. It remains open to all and I think you would be more supportive of that board if you ain’t just creating a thread about it but, doing some of the meriting yourself.

I'm not a gambling professional, but seeing now that the signature gambling campaign is more,
it needs special attention for merit sources for gambling boards (of course they have merit recipient criteria).

Some reviews are helpful and more people will be able to know about the gambling they are using,
so as not to get caught up in scam gambling places.

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However, on this post's contexts, if a merit source is active there, gradually he'll find time to read some responses on the board that deserves merits. This will help in building the quality of contents in the board. People tend to put in a better effort if they know it'll get rewarded, compared to when there is no form of reward available.

That way there will be more attention to the gambling board when what is discussed gets merit from the merit source directly.
When the signature gambling campaign is more, of course the gambling board will be paid more attention,
after all there is no prohibition for merit sources to spread their merit on the gambling board.

[Helena Yu]

That doesn't mean it's irrelevant to look out for a few merit worthy posts on there. However, on this post's contexts, if a merit source is active there, gradually he'll find time to read some responses on the board that deserves merits. This will help in building the quality of contents in the board. People tend to put in a better effort if they know it'll get rewarded, compared to when there is no form of reward available.

Instead of asking merit sources to look merit worthy posts from many garbage posts, why you not report those merit worthy posts here [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source?

There are no standard  or rules here, merit sources can choose which board they want to merit, you don't have to report all the merit worthy posts and each user can send their merit worthy posts by themselves.

[Lucius]

Hence such a collaborative choice, as it may seem, definitely has reason. What could that be?

90% of the posts if not 95% are quota spam which would deserve getting moved to the trashcan rather than merit.
The whole board is infested with people recycling the previous posts and making their 3 lines look like they are interested in that sport or gambling when in fact they don't even have a clue about gambling in general nor did they ever gamble on a sport.
Seriously now, you see that many posts that would qualify for merit there daily?

Unfortunately, I have to note once again that I remain unpleasantly surprised with such questions coming from members with the highest ranks. Actually the real question of this thread would be "how to force merits sources to give merits for shitposting?"

[pakhitheboss]

Hi all, I actually don't know how many merit sources exists in the forum and what activities mostly interests them. But I'm sure I've seen threads with complaints regarding the gambling section lacking merit sources. Which simply means that accounts assigned to share merits don't lurk around that board. Looking at it, I thought of this occurrence being the choice of the merit sources as they don't want to read or share posts in that board. If they were interested they would have joined campaigns that promote gambling. You know what that means? They'll probably have to post there. In a nutshell, disturbing the admins of this forum to send such people to the board is good, but from my perspective it's their choice not to be there. Gambling campaigns would have been the easiest way of getting some members in the merit distributing category to the gambling section, but a lot of them avoids it too. Hence such a collaborative choice, as it may seem, definitely has reason. What could that be?

When I started posting on the Gambling board or the discussion board, I felt lack of merit source involvement. The reason is simple, that the topics are not worthy enough to get merits and the replies are repetitive.

That doesn't mean that everyone active on the said boards doesn't get merits. They do get merits but most of them are not from any merit source.

The biggest revenue generation after the ban on mixer is still being done by gambling portals. The only issue is that there is more spam than actual discussion. On a board that is contributing spam more than good topics or replies, how can anyone expect merits.

There is also the issue or you can say potrait that the every thing related to gambling is a not worthy of merits. The simple reason being gambling is still considered a wrong than investing or trading.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Gambling board is on my ignore list, but a lot of merit sources wear gambling signatures and therefore they are forced to create posts there, which means that your chance of getting merits there is higher.

I think there are too many complains that merit is not enough on the Gambling board. I see a lot of gambling buddy on the board earned a lot of merits. If a user does not create good posts but spam then there are no way they will earn merit. Gambling board does not need any special attention.

[Woodie]

Don't worry yourself so much my friend, I believe the natural campaign economics of the forum is now pushing the merit sources to what they were avoiding initially due to the scarcity of alternatives.

Lol you are a funny lad Victor , but it is what it is!

And as far as I know, the gambling industry has and will always be among the biggest when it comes to cryptocurrencies despite other industries having had the big budgets to spend more money in a short period, but still when we look at the actual traffic coming onto their platforms and the alike... gambling, exchanges and gaming have the lion's share and deserve the deliberate support 💯 ✅...

Many of them are now in the gambling campaigns because they do not have a choice, they need the money, which is natural, because you can only prove boss when you have a choice.

Many that you could have thought had a choice are now in the gambling campaigns, but the merit distribution in that section of the forum is still very poor. This could only mean one thing, they just have some kind of reservation/resentment on the gambling sections, but who cares?

Let them do whatever they want to do, the forum continues to breathe.

Regardsless of where merit goes on the forum, I think over the years it's really not circulating to be honest...but maybe one day it will happen, let's hang in there  

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Based on some topics i read in the past, some merit sources believe that there is a lot of spamming and substandard posts on the gambling board, which I can tell is actually the truth, but that doesn't mean that there are no exceptional topics and comments on that board too, which makes me think that the gambling board actually needs a dedicated merit source to enable merit to circulate more on the board.

Although I know that there was a merit source accepting merit reviews from members, and he was also reviewing posts in this gambling section, that was actually based on a request and not of free will.

[uchegod-21]

There are many merit sources on gambling boards now. The problem is that they do not like to give merit to gambling posts. I see many more of them when mixers and Bestchange campaigns ended, most of them are now hearing the signature and avatar of gambling sites.

I don't know the rational behind not meriting posts in the gambling board especially now that casinos are the major companies advertising in the forum. It is understandable that there are lots of spamming and low quality post there but there is no way to deny the fact that some great and informative post are also found in that board.

Anyways, it is not up to me to decide for any merit source what constitute a quality post and where to spend their smerit. So as long as the forum is running and merits is circulating in other boards, it is fine, users just have to spread their post to the general boards to increase visibility and also earn merits.

It is just a matter of general notion. It is believed that most posts in that board are spams. However, it will take only a gambler to know related and unrelated topics in such board in order to determine spam. But then, since posts there are regarded as low quality, a merit source dropping merits there might be seen as someone meriting low quality posts.
It is just a notion I don't know how it came about. It is only a few people that will change the impression only if they are determined to do so. This could be the time theymos had to allocate a merit source to such board.

[chigo]

There are many merit sources on gambling boards now. The problem is that they do not like to give merit to gambling posts. I see many more of them when mixers and Bestchange campaigns ended, most of them are now hearing the signature and avatar of gambling sites.

The provision of merit on the gambling board is indeed the least if we compare it with the speculation or technical board, but in my opinion that is quite reasonable considering that most of the posts you make on the gambling board are only posts that are common sense and not very useful, but there are also several merit sources that provide merit there when someone likes a post, the point is to go back to the merit source, if he likes it, he will definitely give merit.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Gambling board does not need any special attention.

If you say so then we should see the gambling board as the land of outcast 😅. The traffic over there is one of the largest in the Forum and no other board comes close, at least 30% if not 45% of the Special attention (like you said) given to other boards should be thrown in that direction, gambling board shouldn't be seen as an excluded area in the Forum (just like Off-topic). In as much as we have lots of spamming in the gambling section I think we still have members who drops quality post in that board.