Merit sources can join casino campaigns, it's a choice

[Accardo]

Hi all, I actually don't know how many merit sources exists in the forum and what activities mostly interests them. But I'm sure I've seen threads with complaints regarding the gambling section lacking merit sources. Which simply means that accounts assigned to share merits don't lurk around that board. Looking at it, I thought of this occurrence being the choice of the merit sources as they don't want to read or share posts in that board. If they were interested they would have joined campaigns that promote gambling. You know what that means? They'll probably have to post there. In a nutshell, disturbing the admins of this forum to send such people to the board is good, but from my perspective it's their choice not to be there. Gambling campaigns would have been the easiest way of getting some members in the merit distributing category to the gambling section, but a lot of them avoids it too. Hence such a collaborative choice, as it may seem, definitely has reason. What could that be?

[un_rank]

The total number of merit source is 109^[1].

Increasing the merits which circulate the gambling boards does not require pushing sources to visit the board but choosing from those that already do. cryotifrka applied to be a merit source for the board^[2]. A request I do not think has been approved.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464289.0

- Jay -

[Oshosondy]

There are many merit sources on gambling boards now. The problem is that they do not like to give merit to gambling posts. I see many more of them when mixers and Bestchange campaigns ended, most of them are now hearing the signature and avatar of gambling sites.

[Odohu]

There are many merit sources on gambling boards now. The problem is that they do not like to give merit to gambling posts. I see many more of them when mixers and Bestchange campaigns ended, most of them are now hearing the signature and avatar of gambling sites.

I don't know the rational behind not meriting posts in the gambling board especially now that casinos are the major companies advertising in the forum. It is understandable that there are lots of spamming and low quality post there but there is no way to deny the fact that some great and informative post are also found in that board.

Anyways, it is not up to me to decide for any merit source what constitute a quality post and where to spend their smerit. So as long as the forum is running and merits is circulating in other boards, it is fine, users just have to spread their post to the general boards to increase visibility and also earn merits.

[Plaguedeath]

Why the sources need to give merit to gambling posts if most of the posts are not merit worthy?

Most of the posts doesn't have any point, let's say someone talk about sport that the match will start tomorrow, instead of giving their analyst and choose the team that will win. They will say "well I think A will win, but if they're not lucky, B will win", what's the point?

[stompix]

Hence such a collaborative choice, as it may seem, definitely has reason. What could that be?

90% of the posts if not 95% are quota spam which would deserve getting moved to the trashcan rather than merit.
The whole board is infested with people recycling the previous posts and making their 3 lines look like they are interested in that sport or gambling when in fact they don't even have a clue about gambling in general nor did they ever gamble on a sport.

Seriously now, you see that many posts that would qualify for merit there daily?

[PX-Z]

Which simply means that accounts assigned to share merits don't lurk around that board... If they were interested they would have joined campaigns that promote gambling.

They both do, and most of them are in gambling/casino related campaigns, but it doesn't mean they are required to give merits in that board. Even me hesitates giving merits there, i only give merits those thread who share related statistics, lists of X, and facts, on the other hand, opinions and guess posts which most of the posts there is meh.

Most of the posts doesn't have any point, let's say someone talk about sport that the match will start tomorrow, instead of giving their analyst and choose the team that will win. They will say "well I think A will win, but if they're not lucky, B will win", what's the point?

What you expect of having a guess to future event/game/fight if what will win or what, of course that's always what you will see. Even in r/Gambling and other other related casino forums/community. But seeing them as repetitive posts will really annoy you.

[tranthidung]

Hi all, I actually don't know how many merit sources exists in the forum and what activities mostly interests them. But I'm sure I've seen threads with complaints regarding the gambling section lacking merit sources.

Quality posts will receive merit even in gambling board but merit distribution in gambling board is less than in other boards, you have to accept it.

If you want to get merit in more often and more in quantity, try to post on other boards but surely with quality and constructive posts. If you make like 100% of your posts in gambling board or 90% there, think of it like why you post like this. Complain about distribution won't lead to anything positively because generally we know that gambling board has more spam posts than quality ones.

[Accardo]

Hence such a collaborative choice, as it may seem, definitely has reason. What could that be?

Seriously now, you see that many posts that would qualify for merit there daily?

If I wouldn't be asked to share some links, yes. Although the gambling section is filled with walls of responses that discourages readers, many comments on the section helps in solving real life problems. And concerned victims tend to learn through those prose, I would name it, due to the solution it provides to them. Those who actually need to read some of  the quality contents shared on the board, learn from it. The forum, I know, reward contents that provides knowledge and solution.

[Mia Chloe]

Hi all, I actually don't know how many merit sources exists in the forum and what activities mostly interests them. But I'm sure I've seen threads with complaints regarding the gambling section lacking merit sources. Which simply means that accounts assigned to share merits don't lurk around that board. Looking at it, I thought of this occurrence being the choice of the merit sources as they don't want to read or share posts in that board. If they were interested they would have joined campaigns that promote gambling. You know what that means? They'll probably have to post there. In a nutshell, disturbing the admins of this forum to send such people to the board is good, but from my perspective it's their choice not to be there. Gambling campaigns would have been the easiest way of getting some members in the merit distributing category to the gambling section, but a lot of them avoids it too. Hence such a collaborative choice, as it may seem, definitely has reason. What could that be?

Just like un_rank mentioned, we have 109 merit sources on the forum. The gambling board lacks merit distribution compared to other boards like technical discussion. Gambling post do get large merits especially for predictions and contests in the games and round sub board. However when it comes to regular gambling discussions, there is very low merit allocation and the reason is not because merit sources don't visit Gambling board or something, rather it's because a majority of forum users including the merit sources, staffs and regular members view gambling posts as spamming.

The gambling discussion board is more like a place for regular discussions that wouldn't fit properly in the off topic section mainly because they relate a lot to gambling. So I naturally don't expect the gambling board to get merits similar to boards like technical discussion or beginners and help.

[Coin_trader]

But I'm sure I've seen threads with complaints regarding the gambling section lacking merit sources. Which simply means that accounts assigned to share merits don't lurk around that board.

No merit source or only few merit source that lurk around the gambling because most of the merit source focus on Bitcoin board and their own local board.

As you can see, most of the merit source doesn’t want to promote gambling campaigns since they don’t want to gamble or become involved on gambling. Supporting the new application of merit source dedicated for gambling is our best chance to improve gambling board.

Merit system was introduced by the time most of the campaign doesn’t required much gambling post. Now that the majority of campaigns are only from casino, those regular poster on gambling boards already feel the lack of merit circulation on gambling board.

[Oshosondy]

I don't know the rational behind not meriting posts in the gambling board especially now that casinos are the major companies advertising in the forum. It is understandable that there are lots of spamming and low quality post there but there is no way to deny the fact that some great and informative post are also found in that board.

Some posters may not agree with this but I see it just as you said it. They always have one, two or more complaints about gambling boards. Also that is how trading discussion is.

Anyways, it is not up to me to decide for any merit source what constitute a quality post and where to spend their smerit. So as long as the forum is running and merits is circulating in other boards, it is fine, users just have to spread their post to the general boards to increase visibility and also earn merits.

People also post on other boards and their posts got merited. I could remember that I posted often on exchanges board before while I am also good in trading discussion and gambling discussion but those other two boards just lacks merits. I received merit on exchanges board quite often.

90% of the posts if not 95% are quota spam which would deserve getting moved to the trashcan rather than merit.
The whole board is infested with people recycling the previous posts and making their 3 lines look like they are interested in that sport or gambling when in fact they don't even have a clue about gambling in general nor did they ever gamble on a sport.

Seriously now, you see that many posts that would qualify for merit there daily?

There are good posters on gambling boards, only what you can say is that spam is also common there, but that does not mean that there are no good posters there also. I have been posting on the board and I noticed low merit distribution there. I even see you hardly visit there, probably because you do not like gambling but just for awhile. We do not need to post in a professor-like way before we receive merit. On technical board, I can argue with you that many posts are repeated just as people are facing issues which has been discussed before but spam there is almost 100% non-existent there.

[stompix]

Although the gambling section is filled with walls of responses that discourages readers, many comments on the section helps in solving real life problems.

Thanks for proving my point, there is no such thing as discussing gambling and odds and bets and solving lie problems.
You're obviously talking about that whole mass of mega topics with different titles that discuss ad nauseam the same things, the same discussions disguised under different topics that go nowhere and that should definitely be moved to politics and sociality or the off-topic board.
Because if you have 100000 topics debating gambling addition it starts losing any reason to continue on debating it.

Gambling section should be about gambling and discussing gambling options, not a fan base on telling us what the score was and who scored, and who they think the bets player is.
If you want to prove there are metit worthy post there go here, it was the last updated topic when I opened the section:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441938.0
in the last 20 pages find me a few post that discusses odds and not the previous scores that are worth merit.

There are good posters on gambling boards, only what you can say is that spam is also common there, but that does not mean that there are no good posters there also. I have been posting on the board and I noticed low merit distribution there.

One in a hundred and the ones that do so don't give a rats's ass about merit!

[EarnOnVictor]

Don't worry yourself so much my friend, I believe the natural campaign economics of the forum is now pushing the merit sources to what they were avoiding initially due to the scarcity of alternatives. Many of them are now in the gambling campaigns because they do not have a choice, they need the money, which is natural, because you can only prove boss when you have a choice.

Many that you could have thought had a choice are now in the gambling campaigns, but the merit distribution in that section of the forum is still very poor. This could only mean one thing, they just have some kind of reservation/resentment towards the gambling sections, but who cares?

Let them do whatever they want to do, the forum continues to breathe.

[nutildah]

There's a few threads and posters on the Gambling board which/who are fun to read, but most of it is thoughtless, perfunctory, text-spun, ChatGPT garbage, so that section does not deserve a dedicated Merit Source. If the posts there were any good they'd be getting merits, but they're not, hence the lack of merits. Hope that clears things up for you.

[examplens]

There are many merit sources on gambling boards now. The problem is that they do not like to give merit to gambling posts. I see many more of them when mixers and Bestchange campaigns ended, most of them are now hearing the signature and avatar of gambling sites.

Maybe it's not a problem that merit sources don't like to give merit there, maybe they simply didn't come across enough quality posts. It is entirely possible that not everyone is against gambling discussions, but rather against the spamming that is most obvious there.

[Accardo]

If you want to prove there are metit worthy post there go here, it was the last updated topic when I opened the section:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441938.0
in the last 20 pages find me a few post that discusses odds and not the previous scores that are worth merit.

Began my search from the 20th page down to the 25th one and you should know it was a glance, didn't scrutinize all the posts word for word, but wasn't able to figure a post that discussed odds. But from the contexts of the thread most people engaged to the post according to the results of the match. Which is something you don't actually value. Yet it's a way of discussion. Not that I didn't find some low quality posts, but from what I read many were in point regarding the cricket games and South African team. Why do you emphasize on discussing gambling odds as the center of attraction to quality gambling post?

[blckhawk]

There's a few threads and posters on the Gambling board which/who are fun to read, but most of it is thoughtless, perfunctory, text-spun, ChatGPT garbage, so that section does not deserve a dedicated Merit Source. If the posts there were any good they'd be getting merits, but they're not, hence the lack of merits. Hope that clears things up for you.

I support this statement, if the board don't produce quality post here and there and the post quality is a hit or miss type of thing, it's probably for the best that there's no dedicated merit source down there, I mean if you look at it, there's more quality posts on more boards out there than gambling websites so I'm not entirely on the side of having one for the Gambling discussion. Speaking of ChatGPT posts, there seems to be less reports or complaints about this one, are people tired of doing it for their posts or they're getting better at hiding their AI posts?

[Faisal2202]

Hmm I am not so active in gambling discussions so I don't know if there is any merit source there or not, but I am so active in BTC discussions and relative threads, and till now I did not come to know that if these boards have merit source or not. I mean till now I don't receive merits on my posts until it's so good that it convinces the reader to appreciate me with merit. I mean sometimes members might not have merits then that's another thing, but merit sources if exist have to give me merits. But how would they know I have posted there, as a lot of members are making posts and the merit sources on this forum are only a few. So to make things work.

These merit sources come up with unique ways to distribute merits to the eligible ones, For example, post your post that you think is worthy of merits, and then you make a post that includes 10 links to merit-worthy posts. And share it with the merit source, some merit sources ask us to pm them, and once in a month they will visit your profile to see if you are a good poster or not. So the point is, I don't think each board like gambling, BTC, Beginners and help, have there own merit source like the local boards have.

[LTU_btc]

Gambling section should be about gambling and discussing gambling options, not a fan base on telling us what the score was and who scored, and who they think the bets player is.
If you want to prove there are metit worthy post there go here, it was the last updated topic when I opened the section:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441938.0
in the last 20 pages find me a few post that discusses odds and not the previous scores that are worth merit.

You have good point. Sometimes this board looks more like just Sports discussion rather than Gambling discussion. Don't see big issue about it. If it would just about posting some bets or discussing about things like gambling addiction, it would be very boring.
But sometimes you can't even call it as discussion board. Look at biggest spam megathreads and you barely can find actual discussion between members, not even talking about merit worthy posts. Wouldn't say that merit distribution isn't enough there, if your post is really good, it's likely that it will be merited