Donald Trump convicted 34 counts.

[philipma1957]

Trump is now a convicted mass felon.

Should be interesting to see how this now unfolds.

Please realize this thread is for civility and discussion.

[Vod]

I think Trump's biggest mistake was not calling the prosecutors pedophiles, taking the focus off him onto his attackers. 

We are in an age right now where biased Supreme Court justices are refusing to recuse themselves from relevant cases.   I will not be surprised if sleepy don avoids jail time somehow.    I would really love to see a mini uprising to finally settle all the tensions between the two parties.  Just like a schoolyard fight.

[royalfestus]

It has been reported that the case involving Donald Trump won't be resolved until after Election Day. Despite this, I still see hope among people who want to support him in the upcoming election, and I want to understand why. The country hasn't improved since he left, and it continues to be run by capitalists. Everything happening makes the country look like the third world country

[Mr. Tom]

I think Trump's biggest mistake was not calling the prosecutors pedophiles, taking the focus off him onto his attackers. 

We are in an age right now where biased Supreme Court justices are refusing to recuse themselves from relevant cases.   I will not be surprised if sleepy don avoids jail time somehow.    I would really love to see a mini uprising to finally settle all the tensions between the two parties.  Just like a schoolyard fight.

Any settling uprising won't be mini,  US seems to be in trouble now. There always were issues about the political selection of the judiciary and when the population is more divided than ever, the country could move to anarchy or a more authoritarian rule. The chances of a fair election are getting low.

[Hispo]

To be frank, even though the case against him.was solid enough, I never thought the judicial system of the United States would dare to put the tag of felon onna former president, not only a former president, who the one who is the front runner in the Republican party and had a very good chance to become the next president of the USA.
By the way, even though Donald Trump was found to be guilty of those serious charges, I believe he won't see any prison time, he will likely just be fined and stay with the tag of being a felon for the rest of his political and natural life, thats it.
when comes to the perception the public has on Trump, this judgment won't change the opinion about the from the average Republican voter, because they had already mind of programmed to see something like this happening to Trump , do they are ready to co tongue to support him further.

Some will even claim Trump is the American equivalent of Nelson Mandela, so he is destined to come back to the white house eventually. Only time will tell, but this is already unprecedented, no doubt about it.

[peter0425]

It has been reported that the case involving Donald Trump won't be resolved until after Election Day. Despite this, I still see hope among people who want to support him in the upcoming election, and I want to understand why. The country hasn't improved since he left, and it continues to be run by capitalists. Everything happening makes the country look like the third world country

Respectfully as someone from a third world country, the USA does not look like a third world country. However it’s valid and valuable that we recognize that it is indeed in crisis and the country needs a good fixing.

I think Trump was able to take advantage of what Biden has not done in his time and that is supporting crypto. Because of this a whole new demographic has emerged and is in solidarity now with Trump. Let’s see if with the addition of our community, trump will prevail.

[bluebit25]

Feeling like a comedy, can someone explain to me that a civilized part of the world where things are considered correct to expose lies to impose or distort the truth should anyone. No matter the situation, I always know that neither Trump or Biden are perfect, so when mistakes appear, it's easy to give up on the things they brought.

With the current situation going against Trump, I assume that the following situations will be the end for those who oppose Trump if he is elected. But if Trump is not elected, we will also see a lot of comedy exposed. In the last election season, someone remembers things related to Biden, in general press news or news sources. Uncontrolled channels before the election season all have the ability to manipulate public opinion, which sometimes makes me feel that it creates more attraction than "Furiosa"

[Zlantann]

To be frank, even though the case against him.was solid enough, I never thought the judicial system of the United States would dare to put the tag of felon onna former president, not only a former president, who the one who is the front runner in the Republican party and had a very good chance to become the next president of the USA.
By the way, even though Donald Trump was found to be guilty of those serious charges, I believe he won't see any prison time, he will likely just be fined and stay with the tag of being a felon for the rest of his political and natural life, thats it.
when comes to the perception the public has on Trump, this judgment won't change the opinion about the from the average Republican voter, because they had already mind of programmed to see something like this happening to Trump , do they are ready to co tongue to support him further.

Some will even claim Trump is the American equivalent of Nelson Mandela, so he is destined to come back to the white house eventually. Only time will tell, but this is already unprecedented, no doubt about it.

This is just the beginning of the legal battle. His legal team can appeal the the judgement in New York appellate court and even the state’s highest court. These courts can overturn the Manhattan criminal court judgement and set him free of these charges. The conviction has just made Donald Trump more popular among his die-hard supporters who see these court cases as a political witch hunt. Many Republicans believe that Trump is been persecuted because Biden wants to limit his chances of winning elections.

The US legal system will always be a pacesetter for other countries because they were not intimidated by the political influence of the former president. There are shreds of evidence that some former presidents of my country did even worse things than Donald Trump, but none of them has been convicted. Past presidents are above the law in my country, but kudos to the US judiciary.   

[Lida93]

To be frank, even though the case against him.was solid enough, I never thought the judicial system of the United States would dare to put the tag of felon onna former president, not only a former president, who the one who is the front runner in the Republican party and had a very good chance to become the next president of the USA.

When a ruling system at the time wants you down they'll have to use every instrumentality of the state to find any means justifiable to do so. It's quite out of the normal that Trump didn't play his cards well this time.  The aim before now has been to find ways to publicly make him ineligible to contest the upcoming USA Presidential election as he was becoming a strong opponent to wrestle with through the ballot. Someone said something about pacesetter... Hello!  Pacesetter or no pacesetter, we know it is what it is.

[o48o]

It has been reported that the case involving Donald Trump won't be resolved until after Election Day. Despite this, I still see hope among people who want to support him in the upcoming election, and I want to understand why. The country hasn't improved since he left, and it continues to be run by capitalists. Everything happening makes the country look like the third world country

Sentencing is in July 11. So this case will be resolved even before s before republicans picking Trump as 2024 presidental nominee. But dumb is facing three other criminal cases as well that could take time to get resolved. If this would be any other person then ex president, he would be in holding cell already and after that rest of his life in prison. But for ex president, i would guess it's going to be just home detention with an ankle bracelet. But could be rest of his life. I am also interested to see if this sentencing includes any financial penalties.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

As far as I can see it's because of the issue of having an extramarital affair with a porn actress and conspiring to buy the silence of a porn actor days before the 2016 election and covering his tracks in business records,

Was it not for something like this that Clinton resigned? In any case, instead of admitting it, he denies it and says he will appeal.

I don't envy you Americans, having to choose between an old coot who you don't know if he's going to die or sleep while he tries to talk and can't articulate his words properly or this mafia style guy.

I don't really like the choices where I live either, but they don't seem so like cartoonish to me.

[BADecker]

If this trial was truly about a sexual affair, and truly about money paid to keep it quiet, THIS CONVICTION JUST SCREWED US ALL ROYALLY. Hasn't anybody heard of sexual consent... the right to consent privately in the bedroom?

The point isn't what Trump and Daniels did, or if they did anything at all. The point is about sexual consent.

Hush money has a main word in it. The word is "hush." It means privacy.

Right now all people - Dems, Reps, and every other adult - should be figuring out ways to change this guilty verdict to innocent. Why? To keep privacy private.

Was there somebody else in the bedroom? So far, only Daniels claimed she was in the bedroom. You can't convict on just one witness. There have to be at least two, and evidence, as well.

Do you want the same thing happening to you? This case sets precedent for all future cases to allow bedroom privacy to be broken. Is that what you want?

Love Trump or hate him. It's not about Trump. It's about breaking into our privacy. This case needs to be overturned by everybody to protect us all.

[Hispo]

As far as I can see it's because of the issue of having an extramarital affair with a porn actress and conspiring to buy the silence of a porn actor days before the 2016 election and covering his tracks in business records,

Was it not for something like this that Clinton resigned? In any case, instead of admitting it, he denies it and says he will appeal.

I don't envy you Americans, having to choose between an old coot who you don't know if he's going to die or sleep while he tries to talk and can't articulate his words properly or this mafia style guy.

I don't really like the choices where I live either, but they don't seem so like cartoonish to me.

That is something I agree on and to this day I don't know understand about the American politics. Democracy ideally is a system which allows the common people to be free to choose the best of the best of their country to represent them within the government and actually solve problem who affect the majority or people. But it would seem the American polítics has been kidnapped by either corporations and donors, the deviate the process and pass laws which only help those  donors and corporatiors to go increase their percentages of profits through the years.

Ironically, The United States brags about being the center of democracy of the world and yet, I consider there are better democratic countries than in the USA, where donations from private companies do not interfere with the destiny of the nation.

[PhillipDe78]

Yeah. However, Trump can run for president even from prison, if I'm not mistaken. But how will the Democrats create a criminal image for him before the election? This is their chance.

[o48o]

The fact that there are many others including Cohen who are not in jail cells, but did things even worse than Trump, shows that this whole thing was a set-up. But it is backfiring.

Lol , keep on coping. You mean Cohen, one of those best people dump was talking about? Who served his sentence, because he did what dump asked him to do? Because he cooperated unlike dump? Because he taped him? You are really following different feeds.

And of course some people will support the Trump, as some people support only ideas, that are strongly against scientific method or consensus, like you for example.

I've been wondering why reality is such a hard pill to swallow for you, that every unlikely alternative is better? Would reality make you seem too insignificant or something? Would it help of you to think of it as setting you free and have fulfilling life instead? You just have to accept it, you know, like you accepted what ever religion you have? This way you would have actual overwhelming evidence to support your views.

Here's a simple image to remind you:


I am not trying to hijack this thread to speak about reality, but i think i need to remind you the concept of it, because what's happening now is part of it, and you need to accept that.

Best of luck to President Trump.

I automatically misread that luck as a cuck as in: "Best of cuck: President Trump".
Must be because i am used to it coming from "i dO mY OwN rEseArCH, without any actual science involved" -type of crowd, that are using it as a slur a lot.

[Bravut]

I read through everyone comment, I saw some in support and others against the ruling.
What I can say is, AMERICA HAS FALLEN,  where pedophiles,gays, drug addicts, Molesters, sex traffickers, satanists rule with a fallen system against all Real Men.
Nice move, I await the Town Hall Trump will have with Elon Musk. All good, he is now a criminal,lol says those who do worst just to cover up there evil.

The world is aware now, let see how it goes......

[darkangel11]

Yeah. However, Trump can run for president even from prison, if I'm not mistaken. But how will the Democrats create a criminal image for him before the election? This is their chance.

Yes, there's no law that stops a convicted felon from becoming the president, which is a bit funny if you ask me.
IMO they tried to convict him for the riots but eventually succeeded elsewhere. It's all a setup that's supposed to destroy his image before the election.
I don't believe that the verdicts right before the end of presidential campaign is a coincidence. They want the public to reconsider and succumb to peer pressure.
"-Don't tell me you're going to vote for that convict, the president should serve as an example."
 

[alani123]

I don't think this hush money trial is going to change people's perception of Trump for the worst.

It's just going to make him look even better to anyone from the center to the populist right. It's crazy that this trial was rushed to be completed on election year even though there had been ongoing proceedings for so many years. The other trials are going to be about more important things trump broke rules about, but I guess democrats weren't able to judge shop as easily for these so they aren't using them so much.

It goes to shoe that justice isn't independent even in the U.S. that supposedly has one of the best judicial systems. It certainly is a political trial and at this point Biden has done an entire Genocide. A war criminal running against someone found guilty for putting his dick in a woman and trying to hide it. The one worst than the other.

[16xypjnxlrew]

Can someone list the 34 counts?

[philipma1957]

It has been reported that the case involving Donald Trump won't be resolved until after Election Day. Despite this, I still see hope among people who want to support him in the upcoming election, and I want to understand why. The country hasn't improved since he left, and it continues to be run by capitalists. Everything happening makes the country look like the third world country

Sentencing is in July 11. So this case will be resolved even before s before republicans picking Trump as 2024 presidental nominee. But dumb is facing three other criminal cases as well that could take time to get resolved. If this would be any other person then ex president, he would be in holding cell already and after that rest of his life in prison. But for ex president, i would guess it's going to be just home detention with an ankle bracelet. But could be rest of his life. I am also interested to see if this sentencing includes any financial penalties.

The fact that there are many others including Cohen who are not in jail cells, but did things even worse than Trump, shows that this whole thing was a set-up. But it is backfiring.


"I Just Donated $300k To Trump"...I'm prepared to lose friends. Here's why.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shaun-maguire-i-just-donated-300k-trump
Clinton's campaign and voted for her.

By 2020 I was disillusioned and didn't vote – I didn't like either option.

Now, in 2024, I believe this is one of the most important elections of my lifetime, and I'm supporting Trump.

I know that I'll lose friends for this. Some will refuse to do business with me. The media will probably demonize me, as they have so many others before me. But despite this, I still believe it's the right thing to do.

I refuse to live in a society where people are afraid to speak.

I'm going to start off with something provocative, but I think it leads to a different take on the most controversial Trump issue, which is obviously January 6th. So here goes nothing.

I believe the 2016 election was manipulated to hurt Hilary Clinton and to help Donald Trump.

Hilary Clinton herself believes this, she has denied the 2016 election result dozens of times, and still does to this day. Plot twist: I agree with her! Look into Guccifer 2.0 which was the "hacker group" that strategically leaked her emails (through Wikileaks) in a drip campaign at just the right moments. Turns out it was the Russian GRU. And remember all those fake news and bot farms? These incidents are the tip of the spear -- some of the publicly known incidents. There was extreme manipulation happening during the 2016 election.






Best of luck to President Trump.

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Deleted you as Cohen did get convicted and spend time in a cell. Please note I quote your post and highlighted your mistake.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-11-22/michael-cohen-completes-prison-term-after-trump-related-crimes

He spent over 13  months in prison.

Note your other post was fine and I left it alone.