Are any of you guys are winning with probably fair games?

[Forsyth Jones]

I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

[Oshosondy]

It is called provably fair games, not probably fair games.

Provably fair games means the games that can be proved of no cheating or manipulation. You can see such games on reputed casino sites.

But do not forget that no matter how provably fair casino games are, they are designed in a way the casino will earn more money from gamblers. Gamble responsibly with the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

[Cantsay]

It is called provably fiat games, not probably fair games.

I saw “fiat” and went to search for it thinking it was a new terminology without realizing that you corrected the “probably”.

@Op, the last deposit I made in my account got my up to x5 initially but after trying a few games (the site was new to me so I just made the deposit to see how things works in it) but after moving to other games and increasing my stake I lost everything.

In provably fair games I don’t think skills apply to them - to me I feel it’s based off entirely on luck, games like poker and sports betting could be skills but for the likes of slots, dice, etc they are not skill-based games.

[Saint-loup]

No,no gambling games against a house could be based on skills, the house could quickly fall otherwise. Only PvP games aka social games could  allow that. So provably fair games are also games of chance, except you can easily check if they are rigged, or prevent any cheating to be possible by using some schemes involving custom client seeds for example.

[Moreno233]

I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair(PF) games, as the name implies, is a technology deployed to develop games that do not give undue advantage to the gambler or the casino. It leverages the features of blockchain technology to develop a system that cannot be rigged so that there will not be a case of cheating by the casino like many people complain about dubious platforms. There is no game built separately with for the probably fair technology, rather the normal games we have in every casino can be built with such technology as PF is just a technology deployed to bring some transparency and by extension trust to the casino business. Most of the popular casino games you know such as Plinko, Dice, Roulette, etc are games that are developed using the probly fair technology. Although it is possible some dubious casinos can claim probably fair games whereas there is more than meet the eyes. You can get all you need about probably fair technology in this post.

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Some probably fair games are entirely based on luck while in some, there is a mixture of skill and luck, it is up to the gambler to study the sequence and take advantage of same.

[Charles-Tim]

In provably fair games I don’t think skills apply to them - to me I feel it’s based off entirely on luck, games like poker and sports betting could be skills but for the likes of slots, dice, etc they are not skill-based games.

It is gambling. The skills would be for winning and making profit but the casinos and betting sites are making money from gamblers. In slots and dice, some people use strategies which they are also learning more about. That can be called skills also but skills in the presence of what is taking money from you. There are no skills in it. I prefer the word 'skills' to be used in something someone is good at like he or she is born with it. Like something someone is exceptionally excellent at. If you are exceptionally good in gambling, that means you are exceptionally making money from it and the casino is losing money for you to profit. That means you are skilled in gambling. But can that be true? I do not think so.

[DaNNy001]

In provably fair games I don’t think skills apply to them - to me I feel it’s based off entirely on luck, games like poker and sports betting could be skills but for the likes of slots, dice, etc they are not skill-based games.

It is gambling. The skills would be for winning and making profit but the casinos and betting sites are making money from gamblers. In slots and dice, some people use strategies which they are also learning more about. That can be called skills also but skills in the presence of what is taking money from you. There are no skills in it. I prefer the word 'skills' to be used in something someone is good at like he or she is born with it. Like something someone is exceptionally excellent at. If you are exceptionally good in gambling, that means you are exceptionally making money from it and the casino is losing money for you to profit. That means you are skilled in gambling. But can that be true? I do not think so.

I don't really get the whole skillful talk when it comes to gamblers because  from what I gather and even with all my experience I don't actually believe that the word skillful have much importance when playing gambling be it any type of games well that's for my take and everyone can have their different opinions too for me I purely believe it's all luck base and probably with the experience you had gotten from previous session that can actually lead to your decision making when gambling.

[Casdinyard]

Back when freebitcoin still offer provably fair games (not sure if they still do I just stopped playing their games years ago) I would play their hi-lo game which is provably fair in all senses of the word. I would be able to bag a couple dollar’s worth of wins but eventually I’d lose it all either through a massive one-hit loss or through cumulative losses I incur over the course of my playtime. I feel like this is the sane case/situation for every other player who’s had a chance to play provably fair games, you win, you lose it all.

Given that setting, I could say I win games when I’m playing but at the same time I lose more than I gain so it’s not like I really win anything so to speak. But that’s okay. I don’t go gambling thinking I could make a living out of it anyway, let alone assume I could just win willy-nilly especially with games like that.

[mirakal]

It is called provably fair games, not probably fair games.

Provably fair games means the games that can be proved of no cheating or manipulation. You can see such games on reputed casino sites.

But do not forget that no matter how provably fair casino games are, they are designed in a way the casino will earn more money from gamblers. Gamble responsibly with the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

Right, still the loss is ours while the casino house is always the winner. But it’s still a good thing that if you chose to gamble, prefer on those kind of games where cheating is less likely to happen, so that there will be higher chances for you to profit somehow. Most especially if you gamble with luck on your side, as majority of gambling games are luck based, then you’ll definitely make it big even with your small funds.

[Charles-Tim]

I don't really get the whole skillful talk when it comes to gamblers because  from what I gather and even with all my experience I don't actually believe that the word skillful have much importance when playing gambling be it any type of games well that's for my take and everyone can have their different opinions too for me I purely believe it's all luck base and probably with the experience you had gotten from previous session that can actually lead to your decision making when gambling.

It is not just your own take but that is how it is. Let us say you really know how to play blackjack but when it comes to you and casino, the casino is making money from you. So what is the skill in what you know how to do but you are losing money or coins to casinos. That literarily means the person is not skillful at it. The more someone spend in gambling, the more likely the person will lose. We should not misrepresent luck as skill.

Right, still the loss is ours while the casino house is always the winner.

Exactly.

[Zigabel]

I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Such games are highly luck dependent and cannot be regarded as such that is supposed to be really for fun and not to make money as making money based on luck doesn't make sense especially not with anything gambling related as it will most definitely not make sense as it should , just having fun  with such game remains the best and if eventually you get to win one of the games then you assume it you were Lucky and see it to that.

Gambling shouldn't be done with the sole purpose and aim to make money as that way may cost you a whole lot and if you are emotionally attached to the game, you may proceed to addiction without really knowing and thinking it's just still you loving the game.

[$crypto$]

But it’s still a good thing that if you chose to gamble, prefer on those kind of games where cheating is less likely to happen, so that there will be higher chances for you to profit somehow. Most especially if you gamble with luck on your side, as majority of gambling games are luck based, then you’ll definitely make it big even with your small funds.

What we should look for is whether the casino is fair and there is no cheating? Because this is the most important thing while for the game it is luck and the right owner will be the real winner the player cannot fight the casino house owner.

I think all games are the same actually luck determines whether you will win or not, but look for a casino with a good reputation so you will not hesitate to play there, but don't think slot games, crashes, dice, plinko are fair with skills you can win of course this is not.

[blckhawk]

Yes most of us do win but what probably fair means isn't what you think it means, the odds are still stacked against you and with a provably fair thing on a game, it just makes you see the odds or that you have a way of analyzing the odds and see that they weren't being fair. Kind of like making the games' codes like an open source so people can see that there's nothing there that's making you lose but the odds of the game. Most people do win but big wins are as rare as those games that's not provably fair.

[Rruchi man]

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...So what is the skill in what you know how to do but you are losing money or coins to casinos. That literarily means the person is not skillful at it.

That you lose money to a casino in a skill-based game does not always mean that you are not skilled at it; what it can mean too is that you are not skilled enough to beat the casino. But because even the most skilled cannot boast of a consistent advantage over a casino whenever they play a skill-based game, the argument skill has some room for continuance.

Skills in gambling will be more evident when it is a game played between players, where it is possible for the most skilled to win continuously, and the casino gets commissions for each game played by players. Casinos need to win too, which is why, regardless of your skill level, as long as it is a game against the house, you must lose at some point for them to win.

[topbitcoin]

I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

There is no fair game if you always think negatively about the casino or any game you play then you lose and feel that someone might have cheated to make us lose, sara think such thoughts must be eliminated first, if talking about games maybe you need to play skill-based games, because it will depend on how you play, so it will be said to be a fair game because everything depends on your ability.

But if you are looking for a fair game on slot games, of course it will be very difficult to believe that slot games are fair because most of us must have lost, and or someone's experience and way of playing is different which allows victory and defeat faster, like me with the way I play at Gate Olympus feels that so far the game is very fair, while there are other people who say that Gate Olympus is never fair, then who should be believed in a situation like this, even though we are basically in the same casino.

[alani123]

I don't care losing or winning so long as it's probably fair then I feel safer. Losing is more natural when gambling on sng game with a house edge. So while I of course enjoy winning more money overall, I won't be blaming the system behind the game. Of course if the outcomes are pre-determined the casino can't cheat on you by fumbling the odds each time you bet big.

Moreover it's also easy to think that provably fair isn't helping the player, but imagine the potential consequences playing on a non fair game. The casino could just make you lose when you are about to blow your balance on a risky bet and you'd have absolutely no way to prove it. Better safe than sorry really.

[danherbias07]

Whatever trick they use like "provably fair" games, we will still end up losing in the long run. Do keep that in mind. The house edge will be the one defeating us and you can bet that it will not be taken away or else there will be no online gambling business that is running.
I mean, think about it, if there's really a chance to make a profit out of gambling by playing long then I'd be ready to let my computer be awake 24/7 but that's not possible which is why we just depend on one lucky shot that would change everything and that includes getting back the money we lost and some profits.

[Assface16678]

Well, the thing is, there are no such pair games. It's because gambling games require luck, but of course there's gambling games that will involve your skills, knowledge, and how you will outsmart your opponent. For me, card gambling games are the best option in order for you to secure major winnings. It's because card games can have luck, but with your skills and knowledge, you can pick the right move or whether to push through or not, like black jack, poker, and many more. Just avoid those games that are purely on luck, like slots, roulette, you know what I mean, and there are many more games out there that will be more thrilling if you can outsmart your opponent. I think you should search for those gambling games also that will be suitable for you, because for me cars gambling games is the best and more reasonable gambling games.

[Poker Player]

It is not just your own take but that is how it is. Let us say you really know how to play poker but when it comes to you and casino, the casino is making money from you. So what is the skill in what you know how to do but you are losing money or coins to casinos. That literarily means the person is not skillful at it. The more someone spend in gambling, the more likely the person will lose. We should not misrepresent luck as skill.

I find it hard to understand what you are saying here, as it seems to me you got all mixed you. When you play poker you play against other players and whether you win or lose, in the long run, depends mainly on your skill. But the casino makes money regardless of what you do, because it takes a commission on every pot (except the ones where you don't get to see the flop, usually).

So, you are skilled at poker and you make money: the casino also makes money because it takes a commission on the pots.

You are not skilled and you lose money: the casino also wins because it takes commission from the pots.

In casino games it is a different story.

[Charles-Tim]

...So what is the skill in what you know how to do but you are losing money or coins to casinos. That literarily means the person is not skillful at it.

That you lose money to a casino in a skill-based game does not always mean that you are not skilled at it; what it can mean too is that you are not skilled enough to beat the casino. But because even the most skilled cannot boast of a consistent advantage over a casino whenever they play a skill-based game, the argument skill has some room for continuance.

As long as you are gambling against the house while the house has an advantage against you, it is not called skilled based. That is what I am implying and it is correct.

Skills in gambling will be more evident when it is a game played between players, where it is possible for the most skilled to win continuously, and the casino gets commissions for each game played by players. Casinos need to win too, which is why, regardless of your skill level, as long as it is a game against the house, you must lose at some point for them to win.

If you are gambling against each other and the casino is only providing the game just like Poker Player posted, that is skill based just like what he meant as in poker player.

I find it hard to understand what you are saying here, as it seems to me you got all mixed you. When you play poker you play against other players and whether you win or lose, in the long run, depends mainly on your skill. But the casino makes money regardless of what you do, because it takes a commission on every pot (except the ones where you don't get to see the flop, usually).

My explanation are straight forward and you do not need to get it mixed up. You are right about this. I have not played poker before but I was just using it as an example just like roulette, blackjack, baccarat, dice and other casino games. But you should understand my point that if you are gambling against the house, it is not skill based as you are more prone to losses.

Although you are right but there are different types of poker, you will play Hold'em poker against the house. The first poker I had conversation in on this forum was Texas Hold'em on Stake.