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[Poker Player]

With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?

[Little Mouse]

AI to detect AI to humanize by AI. The AI show lol.

[joker_josue]

With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?

But I always said that it would be very difficult to distinguish original human text from AI text. The only way to minimize this is to remain attentive to what each user says/does, to understand whether it is something original or not.

Because, unless someone uses a high-performance tool, the AI ​​text will always be isolated from post to post, not creating a personality or being coherent from one post to the next. Therefore, it is not enough to observe the content of a single post, but rather the content of several user posts.

This will require a lot more work and greater attention from all of us. But, there is not much more that can be done.

[Hazink]

When there were no AI writing tools, there were no popular tools to detect those AI write-ups, so it will also be a matter of time before there is a tool that will help separate the humanised write-up from a real human write-up.
 
One thing about Ai write-up, especially in the comment section, is that they most times give their view off key. Let's just watch how it goes, that's if some are not already using it without being detected.

[Helena Yu]

I'm not sure if you're joking or serious, if you're joking then we don't have to worry since Humanize AI can't really humanizing AI text because when I try on AI generated text, the AI detectors still detect it as an AI.

But, this is just their first form, we don't know what will happen in the next 5 years.

If we already reach to the time where we can't distinguish between AI text and human text, we can still able to judge the quality.

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Copyleaks: AI content detected
Hive: 100% likely to be AI-generated
Sapling: 99.9% fake

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Copyleaks: AI content detected
Hive: 99.4% likely to be AI-generated
Sapling: 99.6% fake

[SamReomo]

With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?

It will not be possible when AI reaches the writing ability of humans but as of now most AI generated text can be easily detected with AI text detectors but after programs like that things may change in future. All of those people who know that AI generated text is worst type of spam understand that in future AI generated text can be indistinguishable from human written text.

I believe the emotions in humans text can be only hope to combat against AI generated text. I know that AI generated text could also contain some emotion elements but those can't match the emotions that humans feel during writing.

AI generated text is so good at its current levels that for a normal human it's hard to differentiate between AI generated text and human written text, only the program that are created to detect such text are good at detecting AI generated text but things will change when the AI generated text reaches to the point where it's exactly like human text, and at that money it will be harm for such programs to detect AI generated text.

[joker_josue]

I believe the emotions in humans text can be only hope to combat against AI generated text. I know that AI generated text could also contain some emotion elements but those can't match the emotions that humans feel during writing.

I believe that the real differentiating point will be the coherence between texts. The AI ​​will generate each text individually, and not as an individual person who has a pattern of feelings, tastes, attitudes, etc.

For example, in a post the IA may write that he loves eating apples. But 10 posts later he can already say that he hates apples and that he is allergic.

[Solosanz]

I believe that the real differentiating point will be the coherence between texts. The AI ​​will generate each text individually, and not as an individual person who has a pattern of feelings, tastes, attitudes, etc.

For example, in a post the IA may write that he loves eating apples. But 10 posts later he can already say that he hates apples and that he is allergic.

Even before AI become popular, there have been many users who contradict what they said or probably they have Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Those users will say people need to use decentralized exchange due to privacy and non custodial wallet to hold coins, but if you check their post history, they actually use Binance as their wallet. Not sure how should the forum react with those kind of users since they're not breaking any rules.

[Davidvictorson]

Let's test it.

1. I gave the most popular AI software, ChatGPT a prompt.

Write something about bitcoin in 1000 characters only-

The outcome:

Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency, created in 2009 by an unknown person or group using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. It operates on a peer-to-peer network, allowing users to send and receive payments without relying on a central authority like a bank. Transactions are verified by network nodes through cryptography and recorded in a public distributed ledger called a blockchain.

Bitcoin is lauded for its potential to offer financial freedom, lower transaction costs, and provide a hedge against traditional financial systems. Its supply is limited to 21 million coins, creating a deflationary model. Despite its benefits, Bitcoin faces criticism for its price volatility, regulatory uncertainties, and its use in illicit activities. It has sparked significant interest and investment, influencing the creation of thousands of other cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin continues to be a topic of debate and innovation within the financial world, representing a groundbreaking shift towards digital and decentralized financial systems.

2. Next up. I used the https://www.humanizeai.io/

The outcome:

Bitcoin, a decentralized digital currency, was made in 2009 by somebody with the name Satoshi Nakamoto. This network works through a peer-to-peer way where people can make transactions without necessarily using intermediates such as banks. Nodes on this network verify that indeed all transactions have been done in valid ways via cryptography before being recorded on a shared ledger that is publically distributed and known as the blockchain.

Bitcoin has been praised as a champion of financial autonomy, lower fees on transactions, and an alternative defense in opposition to traditional monetary systems. The overall number of Bitcoins that would ever be mined is capped at twenty-one million, resulting in a deflationary approach. Conversely, Price instability, regulatory doubts, and being utilized as a medium for illegal deeds have stood as points of contention directed towards the use of Bitcoin. It has generated huge curiosity and investment leading to a rise in thousands of alternative digital currencies. Bitcoin remains a subject of discussion and fresh ideas within the finance sphere, such that it constitutes a revolutionary progression towards the digital or disintegrated financial platforms.

3. Next up. I used 6 AI content detector tools to check -
quillbot - result - 0% of text is likely AI-generated
Copyleaks - result - This is human text
Writer -result - 100% HUMAN-GENERATED CONTENT
Contentdetector.ai - result  - 43.75% is AI-generated(this was only the first sentence in the first paragraph)
Writefull - result - 40% likely this comes from GPT-3, GPT-4 or ChatGPT.
Content at scale - result- the text is likely written by ai.
Some AI detector tools are already robust and sophisticated enough to detect text content written or humanized by AI, while others are not. As you can see from the small test I ran, the humanizerAI doesn't work.

[Smartvirus]

For all I know, it’s another marketing strategy. Just like how you can create a computer virus and also create an anti-virus. The market just never ends, it’s a growing field and the developers are at the end of it, benefiting from what they can off a good marketing strategy.

Perhaps it might work for sometime and after a while, we would find another Anti-Humanized AI text detector that would simply work by some algorithm to reverse codes to get the original or something. Hope you get to recommend them when found though but until then, the forum would have to phase the fight with having less and less low life users who deem themselves dumb enough for AI to do their bidding.

[Filippo Spina]

AI to detect AI to humanize by AI. The AI show lol.

  LOL

"I USED THE A.I. TO DESTROY THE A.I."
-Thanos

Don't worry guys, Bitcoin will beat A.I. for real. This clown show is going on for too long.

[joker_josue]

Some AI detector tools are already robust and sophisticated enough to detect text content written or humanized by AI, while others are not. As you can see from the small test I ran, the humanizerAI doesn't work.

To what extent can these same tools also say that part of a text was written by AI, in a 100% human text?
These tools can be useful, but they are so fallible, like an AI tool trying to disguise a text.

[Davidvictorson]

To what extent can these same tools also say that part of a text was written by AI, in a 100% human text?
These tools can be useful, but they are so fallible, like an AI tool trying to disguise a text.

I agree and this is the part they have been unable to crack. There's been 100% human text been classified as AI. In fact some people have had their essays and articles rejected because the reviewers didn't believe that they weren't AI written. Hopefully someday this new problem created by AI will be resolved.

[Cryptomultiplier]

To what extent can these same tools also say that part of a text was written by AI, in a 100% human text?
These tools can be useful, but they are so fallible, like an AI tool trying to disguise a text.

I agree and this is the part they have been unable to crack. There's been 100% human text been classified as AI. In fact some people have had their essays and articles rejected because the reviewers didn't believe that they weren't AI written. Hopefully someday this new problem created by AI will be resolved.

'Resolved,' seem like a word that will lead to new initiatives and ideas for apps to be created so as to distinguish human essays from AI essays.

Still, considering the fact that most human text are almost as similar to AI text, I think we as humans should endeavor to make purposeful mistakes repeatedly in perhaps tenses or spelling of words so as to show we are humans, because I believe one reason why there's a confusion when trying to distinguish human from AI essays is the perfection that exists mostly in the scientific uses of tenses and grammar.

[AB de Royse777]

Why it's in Meta?

[dzungmobile]

Let's test it.

It is basically paraphrasing, text spinning from an original content given by ChatGPT. Seriously if we are strict, we can say content given by ChatGPT is not original, it is more like secondary content. Because ChatGPT does its meta collection from many resources to compose its content so calling it original is not accurate.

Now it's turn of HumanizeAI to do its paraphrasing, text spinning tasks and if AI detective tools fail, many plagiarism and abuse from HumanizeAI will be used in this forum. It's the end of human discussions here, we will have another level of fighting against AI abusers.

Posting quickly like actmyname will no longer big surprise.
How to write posts like a degenerate spammer
[EXPERIMENT] Testing the Limits of Shitposting

We will have escalating things like Posting like a degenerate AI spammers/ HumanizeAI spammers.

LOL

[Wapfika]

I’m curious on how they will make a statement a humanizer statement. Is this tool purposely commit some minor wrong grammar or other minimal error on sentence structure just to look like a human because it’s really hilarious to think that AI is now downgrading just solve the too much AI problem happening right now. 

It is basically paraphrasing, text spinning from an original content given by ChatGPT. Seriously if we are strict, we can say content given by ChatGPT is not original, it is more like secondary content. Because ChatGPT does its meta collection from many resources to compose its content so calling it original is not accurate.

Afaik this is still not a humanized sentence since it’s still constructed by an AI using a different method of reconstructing sentence. 

[Vod]

Because, unless someone uses a high-performance tool, the AI ​​text will always be isolated from post to post, not creating a personality or being coherent from one post to the next. Therefore, it is not enough to observe the content of a single post, but rather the content of several user posts.

Actually, even the low-end tools are now offering several layers of context, so they can remember past posts they have made and make new posts in the same style.

[uchegod-21]

With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?

It is just like;
First, generating an AI text and asking the AI to rephrase the whole text but in this time adding some emotions to it. What's the difference between an AI generated text and a human written text. It is the emotion.

Secondly, if I wan to use AI to make post in the forum. That time that I will use to generate first AI written texts and still send it to another AI to humanize the texts, I should already have written my forum post and move my way.

[JollyGood]

We will have to accept the inevitable, one day it will not be stopped that is the direction technology is taking us. Eventually AI will be utilised to a level (or standard) where detection will be extremely difficult or near impossible. Even those AI posts that will end up getting flagged will have their authors contesting them protesting innocence.

With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?