There's enough merits, if hoarders aren't selfish.

[suzanne5223]

Most people are sending the smerits they have to posts, only few people are hoarding smerits. Some of them are not very active on this forum than to see some questions and answer them.

Or do you mean that there are some merit sources that are hoarding smerits? You can report them to theymos if you notice that. Theymos will likely reduce their merit allocation or remove them. Theymos like merit source who makes use of the smerits he is sending them.

He/she was talking about users who are not merit sources but have enough smerits and they decide to hold onto it instead of sending it out which is a normal thing every user of this forum who's not a merit source can do since they can independently decide what to do with their smerit since they are not merit source.
This is why I don't see any usefulness in the topic raised by the OP.

[Pmalek]

Tell you what OP, if you had spent some more time to create a more detailed and interesting opening post, I would probably have merited it. But I chose not to. Not because I am selfish, but because you didn't put much effort into it.

Everyone has the right to decide how to spend their merits. That's true for regular users as well as merit sources. You can always adjust the rules a bit to your liking. For example, in 99% of cases, I don't merit posts written by accounts who have collected many merits but have never awarded others with any. Regardless of what anyone says, I see them as not playing the game the way it's supposed to be played, so I don't see the need to merit them (most of the time).

I don't hate them. I won't ignore them and not talk to them. But I don't need to merit them.   

[Bravut]

Tell you what OP, if you had spent some more time to create a more detailed and interesting opening post, I would probably have merited it. But I chose not to. Not because I am selfish, but because you didn't put much effort into it.

Everyone has the right to decide how to spend their merits. That's true for regular users as well as merit sources. You can always adjust the rules a bit to your liking. For example, in 99% of cases, I don't merit posts written by accounts who have collected many merits but have never awarded others with any. Regardless of what anyone says, I see them as not playing the game the way it's supposed to be played, so I don't see the need to merit them (most of the time).

I don't hate them. I won't ignore them and not talk to them. But I don't need to merit them.   

A straight, direct and clear point. The truth is, everyone have the right to do whatever with there smerit of which they decide who to merit or not in whatever situation (post).  It never selfishness, Merit sources are doing there best, and the truth remains that they cannot merit all the post, there duty is just to ensure circulation of merit. OP your post is dumb and empty.

[pawanjain]

Mind you, there's a difference between hoarders and merit sources, to begin with.

What's your opinion?

Are you tracking people whether they are hoarding their merits or not ?
Unless you are using bpip tool to monitor different users on the forum it will be really difficult to tell if the people are hoarding their merits or not.
Besides that, if people are hoarding their merits then there is no point of it because we don't have any kind of benefit for hoarding merits.
It's better to give it away which is it's sole purpose anyway but then again we have all the rights to choose whom to merit.
Even I become really choosy when it comes to meriting posts but because I have only a small amount of merits with me.

[AVE5]

Mind you, there's a difference between hoarders and merit sources, to begin with.

What's your opinion?

I don't understand your point of being selfish because I know that forum memebers can't merit themselves but talking about being careless in holding obtained Sensible merits without giving them out before it decays, then it's absolutely a nonsense act.
Merits can actually speculate if holders grants them usefully but without the Merit source, I don't think if we can actually generate more to the forum because looking at the forum on basis, I see newbies on board and there's been a lot of quality post in the forum which can even drain the sendable merits of there's no source to regenerate more.

[LoyceV]

I'm probably the biggest sMerit hoarder on the forum, and if not, I'm certain I'm in the Top 5. I'm also the Top 1 most generous Merit sender. What does this tell you? Nothing

Merit isn't scarce. Good posts are.

[GeorgeJohn]

I'm probably the biggest sMerit hoarder on the forum, and if not, I'm certain I'm in the Top 5. I'm also the Top 1 most generous Merit sender. What does this tell you? Nothing

Merit isn't scarce. Good posts are.

But I think as a merit sources, your Smerit have expiration if fail to exhaust it before the end of the month? I know very well that what make people to hoard Smerit for long time is because they have not meet to a post that have such attraction of quality they needed. Spamming is now taking over forum due to so many new accounts.

[Moreno233]

There was never any connections between the two terms and right bow, I'm still trying to understand the usefulness of this thread. Merits sources are given smerits by the admin and their job is to keep the merit flow of the forum balanced by distributing smerits to worthy posts. For those hoarding their smerits, no one can force them to distribute it as they have control of it and can choose to or not to send them out it's their business and not that of anyone. There will still be enough merit flowing in the forum even when they decide to hoard theirs so no loss.

What I have come to understand is that merit sources were given smerits to distribute in the forum but no definite instructions on how or where to distribute them, rather it is expected that whatever is a merit deserving post should be merited. The ambiguous part is that what A may consider a quality post might not qualify as such to B, this simplify mean that the merit sources, coming from different background with different interests, have to work out ways they deem suitable to distribute their smerits. I believe that each of them is doing their best in their capacity to deliver on the trust and confidence reposed on them by the forum administration because they were found worthy of the task. So, we have to respect and appreciate them just the way they are and try to get better in contributing to the discussion here as that is the way merits are given.

[lovesmayfamilis]

My opinion is that you, being here in 2021, are making a statement that is obvious after two weeks. Likewise, there is no need for this topic. You can't force those who don't give away their merit; many will do this with pleasure.

[Pmalek]

Are you tracking people whether they are hoarding their merits or not ?
Unless you are using bpip tool to monitor different users on the forum it will be really difficult to tell if the people are hoarding their merits or not.

You remember the names eventually. Let's say I wanted to merit you but I never checked your profile. I would visit it and click on your merit stats. It takes me two seconds to see if you are sending merits. I would expect anyone who receives merits to spend them as well. I don't care how, in which quantities, or to which users. I just like to see them being circled.

But I think as a merit sources, your Smerit have expiration if fail to exhaust it before the end of the month?

Don't confuse source merits with sMerits. They are different. sMerits (the spendable merits) are the ones you can give to other people. Two received merits create one sMerit.

Source merits expire if not used. If you are a merit source, you first have to use your source merits before you can tap into your sMerit pool. That's why LoyceV says he is an sMerit hoarder. Because he is a merit source with a big stash of source merits, he rarely gets a chance to send his sMerits.

Let's say he now has 200 source merits next to his name. He needs to empty that to 0 before it's time to send his sMerits. Since it's difficult because of a lack of quality and meritworthy posts, his sMerit count keeps increasing and is not being emptied. 

[blckhawk]

Don't be bitter that people don't give away merits that easily, there's a decay period for merits if I recall so if they don't use it, it will be for nothing. I guess that some people just don't find what you're posting to be that fun or compelling and that they don't really care much that they will give you their merits. If you really wanted to be recognized in your game here in the forum, maybe you need to start looking inward and see what are your problems in terms of how you post and the quality of those posts.

[uchegod-21]

...Since it's difficult because of a lack of quality and meritworthy posts, his sMerit count keeps increasing and is not being emptied. 

The only problem is not lack of quality and merit worthy posts. Amidst low quality posts, there are still posts which cross the average benchmark that ought to receive merits. The problem could be that most of our merit sources have high standards for giving out merits and it's rare for their standards to be met by an average forum user.

[Odusko]

Take merits like pocket money, only the holder have the right to spend it, I can't say they're selfish for not sending out the smerits in the possession same way you don't force people to spend their pocket money, most times merit's cyculation may be affected by the activities of members, if the smerits holder is not active then, the smerits may become useless.

[LoyceV]

But I think as a merit sources, your Smerit have expiration if fail to exhaust it before the end of the month?

Not really: every source sMerit I spent, returns after 30 days. I think it's after 30*24*3600 seconds exactly.
If I don't spend them, they don't disappear. It just piles up and won't get replenished anymore.

[ABCbits]

Mind you, there's a difference between hoarders and merit sources, to begin with.

What's your opinion?

Are you tracking people whether they are hoarding their merits or not ?

I don't think OP do that, but user @Coin-1 do that on thread [TOP-200] Members who have a lot of earned sMerits. Some of them are either inactive or representative of certain service though.

I'm probably the biggest sMerit hoarder on the forum, and if not, I'm certain I'm in the Top 5. I'm also the Top 1 most generous Merit sender. What does this tell you? Nothing

Merit isn't scarce. Good posts are.

Based on thread i mention on above sentence and your statement, that means you could have at least 1358 sMerits (excluding source).

[LoyceV]

that means you could have at least 1358 sMerits (excluding source).

3990
Make that 3356 Pizza contest to the rescue

[Majestic-milf]

Tell you what OP, if you had spent some more time to create a more detailed and interesting opening post, I would probably have merited it. But I chose not to. Not because I am selfish, but because you didn't put much effort into it.

Everyone has the right to decide how to spend their merits. That's true for regular users as well as merit sources. You can always adjust the rules a bit to your liking. For example, in 99% of cases, I don't merit posts written by accounts who have collected many merits but have never awarded others with any. Regardless of what anyone says, I see them as not playing the game the way it's supposed to be played, so I don't see the need to merit them (most of the time).

I don't hate them. I won't ignore them and not talk to them. But I don't need to merit them.   

I agree with you. If the op isn't bothered about his post getting merited, he would not have created it. Or is he just being a crusader or something? There's no absence of merits, just good posts, like this one you made, Op.
You don't expect these merit sources to give merits to posts that aren't worthy and as such it would seem like they are hoarders and even though there are those who board merits, I think it's their choice to do whatever they want with it.
 Although it can be annoying when you make posts that deserves to be merited and you don't get but that shouldn't stop you from doing what you do because when you do your quality posts and it comes naturally to you, eventually the merits will come in because for me, it's as if these sources are checking how consistent one can be in making good posts, if it's not just a one time thing or occasional something.
 

[Pmalek]

The only problem is not lack of quality and merit worthy posts. Amidst low quality posts, there are still posts which cross the average benchmark that ought to receive merits. The problem could be that most of our merit sources have high standards for giving out merits and it's rare for their standards to be met by an average forum user.

Merit sources are human. They can't see and be all over the place ready to merit anything and everything that deserves it. Don't forget that it's a manual task, you can't automate it. That's why there will always be posts that remain unmerited somewhere, but I don't think high standards are the reasons for that. Plus, there is a thread in the Reputation board where anyone can report posts that deserve merits to merit sources. If you feel like you deserve more merits than you get at times or the same is true for someone else, feel free to use it. 

[Justbillywitt]

Mind you, there's a difference between hoarders and merit sources, to begin with.

What's your opinion?

Have you really taken time to go through the active forums users Merit history to see if actually people are not giving out sMerits even though they are not obligated by any rules to give out Merits. If you know some hoarders why not just pm them and ask them why they are hoarding Merits as you have claimed instead of creating clout chasing thread like this. But if it appears that you are not getting enough Merits as you would have wanted, that might have made you think that people are hoarding Merits, why not improve your posting pattern. It could also be that your posts are mostly on threads where Merits source don't frequently visit example of such threads is the gambling section. And how sure are you that people you think have sMerit and they are not giving it out that made you think they are hoarding it?

[Rikafip]

The problem could be that most of our merit sources have high standards for giving out merits and it's rare for their standards to be met by an average forum user.

While its true that merit sources have different standards and some might indeed have higher than the others, generally I don't think that's an issue at all since I see many average members having no problem ranking up.