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June 03, 2024, 03:09:49 PM
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
I don't see any form of betrayal in this story because even fans sometimes gets to bet against the team they support, but then if it were possible he would have just avoided betting in that game, the truth is, the casinos is never going to consider the fact that you were trying to stay loyal to your team and so you bet against them and if they lose they refund u, they will definitely take your money and you will be loosing on two sides, so if you know they will lose , in order not to loose your funds to the casino aswell, it will be better your bet against them and make that extra cash.

The casinos do not know loyalist of any team so what ever bet you place, they are going to take judgment based on that which was the outcome of the game in the end, except you are gambling for final nd using it as a way of showing loyalty then you can go ahead and place a bet in support of your team even when you know how much they cannot be able to win.

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June 03, 2024, 03:29:17 PM
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Yes, I would bet against the club I support or am a fan of. The thing is, it's not bad to be loyal to the club or team you want; that's normal, but when it comes to betting, you should be rational and think straight. If you know your club or the club you are supporting has a big chance of losing, will you still bet on it? If yes, then what's the point of betting? You are just wasting your money and time. In short, a gambler should be rational in their thinking; they should pick the club that has the higher chance of winning. If you know your club that you support doesn't do well, then it's okay to bet on the opposing team because the gambler will want to bet even though they know or are sure they will lose. Learn to become rational and know what to prioritise.

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June 03, 2024, 03:44:51 PM
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Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

We have our preferences and choices but I have no problem betting against my favorite provided that my team has no way to win the game their chances are very slim and there is a taker of my bet, I've done this many times in the past, you will feel guilty on the first settings but the succeeding bet you will be ok.

Hey, that's extra money you have been losing a lot give yourself a break even at the expense of the team you are supporting, the team that you support doesn't care if you win or lose and if your favorite is up against a team that they have a chance to beat even if it is slim then you can go all out.

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June 03, 2024, 04:11:11 PM
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It should be due to some kind of terms that restricts anyone involved with the club from support any club in any form which might include betting as well but as individual's point of view the term might seems to be absurd but on a professional level this is the right thing. Anyhow as an individual I bet against my favourite franchise because at the end of the day we have to think rationally not emotional. After all, we are staking our own money and no one is giving us free money to bet so it's not a sin to be a fan of one club and bet against the club if the odds are not in favor or just skip that game. Wink

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June 03, 2024, 04:24:55 PM
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It should be due to some kind of terms that restricts anyone involved with the club from support any club in any form which might include betting as well but as individual's point of view the term might seems to be absurd but on a professional level this is the right thing. Anyhow as an individual I bet against my favourite franchise because at the end of the day we have to think rationally not emotional. After all, we are staking our own money and no one is giving us free money to bet so it's not a sin to be a fan of one club and bet against the club if the odds are not in favor or just skip that game. Wink
No matter the terms and conditions, I think we can always bet in support or against any club that we want even though it's our favorite club. Even though we have terms or a contract with a particular club, we need to be wise and take every opportunity we see to make money for ourselves. I would always bet against my team if I noticed that they are not doing well and if I bet in support I may not make money, I will have to option than to go for the money then if I eventually win, I could use the money to take care of my follow fans and have a good time. The money need to be made for us for to keep enjoying.

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June 03, 2024, 04:25:36 PM
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Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

We have our preferences and choices but I have no problem betting against my favorite provided that my team has no way to win the game their chances are very slim and there is a taker of my bet, I've done this many times in the past, you will feel guilty on the first settings but the succeeding bet you will be ok.

Hey, that's extra money you have been losing a lot give yourself a break even at the expense of the team you are supporting, the team that you support doesn't care if you win or lose and if your favorite is up against a team that they have a chance to beat even if it is slim then you can go all out.
There two kind of bettors when it comes to placing bet on their favorite teams. There are loyal fans who place bets on their favorite teams as a kind of support no matter what. This kind of fans don't care the odds for the teams playing, the bets meant to be price of a ticket they pay to watch their favorite team play on the pitch for their excitement.

There are fans who place bets on the opposed teams, they mean it to stay relieve whatever the result in the end. They trick their own mood to stay happy as they win the bet if their favorite team lose or they will still happy if the bets lose because their favorite teams win. This may be a unique experience, but it's common to happen among sport fans.

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June 03, 2024, 04:31:00 PM
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It should be due to some kind of terms that restricts anyone involved with the club from support any club in any form which might include betting as well but as individual's point of view the term might seems to be absurd but on a professional level this is the right thing. Anyhow as an individual I bet against my favourite franchise because at the end of the day we have to think rationally not emotional. After all, we are staking our own money and no one is giving us free money to bet so it's not a sin to be a fan of one club and bet against the club if the odds are not in favor or just skip that game. Wink
No matter the terms and conditions, I think we can always bet in support or against any club that we want even though it's our favorite club. Even though we have terms or a contract with a particular club, we need to be wise and take every opportunity we see to make money for ourselves. I would always bet against my team if I noticed that they are not doing well and if I bet in support I may not make money, I will have to option than to go for the money then if I eventually win, I could use the money to take care of my follow fans and have a good time. The money need to be made for us for to keep enjoying.
No, It's different. Let's compare this situation with an example, imagine you are working at Google company but you are interested in the success of Microsoft then what would be your decision if you were in the authority of Google, just fire the person who is ditching his own company and interested in the competitor and that's how I see this decision whether it made by the club or the board seems fair to me.

As an Individual is not involved with the club directly can chose to bet against or support of their club.

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June 03, 2024, 04:33:03 PM
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If your focus in betting is earning money, then you should definitely bet against the club you support when odds are against it. But it is different if you bet just for fun, because in that case you'll be tempted to bet for your club even if it's not the favorite. And if after all you win against all odds, reward would be double Wink

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June 03, 2024, 04:45:19 PM
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
To be honest with you, being an employee in a football club requires that you give your all in both support and service, he did very wrong betting against a club that pays him his salary, it's a very bad practice and If I was the management of the club, I would also have sacked him, his betting against the club he is working for simply means he doesn't wish the club to succeed.

Well, the above scenerio is very much different from simply supporting a club though,  and for me, I will gladly bet against the club I support if they are going to be facing a stronger opponent that I am very sure will beat them.
One thing we must understand is that money is the important factor here, the club I support isn't paying me for supporting them, so, I will rather put my money where I know it will yield profit for me, or if I feel too emotional about it, I simply won't bet.

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June 03, 2024, 05:07:46 PM
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Why not? Although we are fans of a specific football club, basketball club, tennis player, or any others but when it comes to betting then we should put it aside.
Without a doubt, we will always want to see our favorite team/player win the game and if we bet on them then we will be get extra fun.
But betting on players or team that we like because we are fans but and we ignore the odds, it can be said as dumb bettor.


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No, It's different. Let's compare this situation with an example, imagine you are working at Google company but you are interested in the success of Microsoft then what would be your decision if you were in the authority of Google, just fire the person who is ditching his own company and interested in the competitor and that's how I see this decision whether it made by the club or the board seems fair to me.

As an Individual is not involved with the club directly can chose to bet against or support of their club.
That's right, if they work for a certain company then they have represented the company in all actions outside of work activities. In my opinion, it is impossible for us to go against our own company by placing a losing bet for our team unless you have a grudge with your boss or other work partners.

I would rather not bet on that team than if they found out that me going against the company would have fatal consequences for my job status, they would not hesitate to fire you and that decision is a consequence that you receive in any company.

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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

First of all, he can bet on any online site and against the club he is working for and no one will ever know about this fact that he was favouring other clubs and not his own in his bets. But how come the club he works on came to know about it. He did wrong if he told his colleagues or even his superior that he is betting against the club.

Anyway, if the club is strong enough, they can win and the employee can lose his bet. If the employee wins, it means that the club is weak and there is no point for the employee to bet on that club and lose money. Also when you are working at some place, there is no such terms that you cannot bet against them and this will not harm their business directly or indirectly.

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I don’t bet against my team for a number of reasons. Liverpool don’t lose many games so it wouldn’t be a very profitable tactic over a full season.

There could be a scenario I guess, where I would in the future. If we were for example 10 points clear in the PL with 4 games to go, the odds on the chasing team(s) would be long so it could he worth putting a little on them to win the league incase Liverpool choked. I’d win money then to ease my state of depression Cheesy

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I will bet against them without regretting it. There is no rule anyway that states that betting against your favorite club is wrong or bad. My money is involved and wether I win or loss, it my own decision and i will bet against them  when i know they are underperforming, if they are in form I will support them. I cannot afford to risk money when I know either I win or loss, players, official and Team Managers will still get paid. So why will I care or jeopardize my bet because I am supporting a team.
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June 03, 2024, 07:24:51 PM
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However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
Working for a club, a brand or a company doesn't mean I have to eat, support or choose them at all time. Yes while I'm at work I can decide to play along and just support them even though I'm not a fan. But sacking me from my job just because of not being a fan is kind of irrational and unjust. It might be that he just wanted to make some money and had good odds that the club he worked for would loss the match. It's just unjust that he got smacked for little thing like that. For me, I will still support my club or bet against them when I see that they won't be able to win the match it doesn't actually matter who we placed our bets on it called gambling for a reason.

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Although for me I don't see anything wrong in what the employee has done. In as much as gambling is concerned, anyone is entitled to dicetion making in which ever club he wishes to play provided there is no law that forbid it. Where it would have been problematic is when the club has set a rule that prohibits employees from gambling against their club and an employee goes contrary to it. Though it is good to support what you represent, wether good or bad. just like we promote campaign here. There is no how someone would be in a gambling campaign and be promoting altcoin campaign. Surely such person may be kicked out of the campaign unknowingly. So in Oder words any company that hires you, have control over you in the aspect of what they hire you for. And you don't have any right to disobey them in their rule provided they are paying you for that. Except you no longer need there services before you can decide to promote other peoples business.

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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now.

Yes there were similar topics, just use the search function. It doesn't cost anything and takes literally 5 seconds.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454100.0

As a player, in most countries you're forbidden to bet at all. Betting against yourself or your club would look like you're cheating by using insider knowledge to gain advantage, knowing that your team is for instance not cooperating and arguing.
As a manager or a coach, it's pretty much the same. You shouldn't bet because you're closely involved.
Being a fan, I also would prefer not to bet than bet against my club.

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June 03, 2024, 08:03:45 PM
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I'm willing to place a bet against my team if it means I get to win some money, but it becomes another story when i'm a part of a football club and i'll be betting against one of their matches. I'd rather not risk losing my job over a one-time bet since there's a conflict of interest. In sports betting, you sometimes have to set aside your emotions and learn to take the opposing side except if you're working for a club or team.

Also, here's a link to the betting incident in case others are curious about the details.

If just being a fan or evenea player and you've already figured your teams potential that they'd loose the match of course you can predict against your club but deep to sincere emotions you still wanted your club to win.
It's just that you can't help and you just want to win your bet but if as a club member or staff where betting against my club is against the policy of course I won't oppose my team because my job is most important than the one time time that's possible to get my job lost.

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June 03, 2024, 08:37:16 PM
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It's possible to bet against the team you're supporting, it's all for fun sake. Most person say "they rather support their bet ticket than support their team when the odds of winning match is against their team" is quite funny though, but the fact that you bet against your team does mean you are not a good fan, after all your team has nothing to offer to you than just entertainment. Those who gamble against their team and eventually wins the bet will get excited for winning their bet and might even pay for viewing ticket to scream their next match live.

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June 03, 2024, 08:48:58 PM
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

This is a personal matter for everyone; personally, if I saw a good odds, I would place a bet against my favorite club. There's nothing wrong with that for me. I didn't betray him, I didn't say anything bad about him and I won't stop being his fan.
Let me give you an example. I support Borrusia Dortmund and have been a fan of this club since childhood. Last Saturday I was even in Dortmund for the Champions League final which Borussia lost. I'm more naturally for Borussia. There was no interesting odds in the bet on this match, but if there was, I would have no problem betting on Real winning.
I think that the situation with this man was that he was an employee of that club and was not setting a good example for other people.

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