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June 16, 2024, 08:21:14 PM
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When the opportunity to win is on the opposing team, why don't I decide to place a bet on the opposing team, even though it is quite painful because I have to fight against myself. And here I don't not believe in the team I support, but there is a certain amount of money I am betting on, and for me losing to the team I like is no more painful than losing when betting.

And for me, it's quite ridiculous when we bet on a team whose chances of winning are quite small, because it's the same as throwing away money that we have for free. Even though it's a team we like. and I can do that, because I enjoy the betting more than the match itself.

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June 16, 2024, 08:21:34 PM
 #142

you bet to make a profit not to support your favorite team.
It's happened to me on multiple occasions and I have no remorse.
for example last time in Roland Garros I place bets against Sinner. It is absolutely normal in certain phases of tournaments or individual sets...

My man, exactly, I think it's insane to NOT bet against your own team.  As I've said in this thread an others, sometimes betting against your own squad(s) can be some of the most intelligent bets you ever make because you likely know your own team better than any other team, so you've got a greater insight to the match, and what may go wrong, or if they just aren't simply good enough to beat their opponent. 

I mostly bet NFL football, and when the Bears suck, which is often, man I'm betting against them ALL the time.
It's actually the opposite of what others actually think this action is which is taking it as something that's not sane for me I feel those that actually bet because of sentiments should actually be the set of persons to be looked with that sort of insane view because I wouldn't be seeing my team @ Manchester united always misbehaving and losing game and then bet in favor of them just because it's my club although I understand that sometimes out of fun I do that once or twice but the normal thing would be to bet for the team that's statistically okay to win the game.

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June 16, 2024, 08:47:22 PM
 #143

I made several bets on the sportsbook against the team that I supported and I got rewards for that many times though a few times I made a loss. But the reality is that it hurt me for the site I have supported but made bets against the team which I have supported it i like a self-contradictory.

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June 16, 2024, 08:56:03 PM
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I'm willing to place a bet against my team if it means I get to win some money, but it becomes another story when i'm a part of a football club and i'll be betting against one of their matches. I'd rather not risk losing my job over a one-time bet since there's a conflict of interest. In sports betting, you sometimes have to set aside your emotions and learn to take the opposing side except if you're working for a club or team.

Being a normal supporter, without even working for the team I am supporting, like being a Manchester United fans, I will never bet against my team because I don't always want my team to lose to any team. Talking of working for the team I support, it would be better for me not to gamble than to bet against my team. But the truth is that there are many gamblers who do bet against the team they support. Those who always do something like that, I see them as not true supporters of their teams , or they are addicted to gambling, which is reasoning why they may be acting like that way.

Well, it's quite fun to support you team even when all odds are against them in winning the game. But those who see gambling as a source of income wouldn't want to loss a bet, and if it means betting against the team they are supporting to make extra funds they'll do that. I prefer not to add my team's match in my betting ticket If all odds are against them in wining that particular game. Though there are times where we believe in our team and still place bet on them to win. Instead of betting against the team I'm supporting I pre to pick other options like, BTS, corner kick over/under, shot on target.... Then talking about players betting against their teams, this is one of the most disrespectful decision a footballer can make while he still plays for the team, and there are certain penalty to such acts.

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June 16, 2024, 08:57:00 PM
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
if I'm betting on my club i.e (if I ever had a club that I'm a fan to), I'd definitely bet against them if the odds were all on them too... But that's a different thing compared to a Coach in a team; you know what you staking against the team as a coach does? It makes the administrators feel like you're not giving in your best cause you wanna milk out them casinos for your own selfish interest... That's total betrayal to the club!

I'm just wondering why people had to say the whole blame wasn't on him.. There are boundaries you don't cross, cause if you do, you'll definitely be seen as a rebel. He lost his job in the team and, that serves him right!



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June 16, 2024, 08:57:17 PM
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When the opportunity to win is on the opposing team, why don't I decide to place a bet on the opposing team, even though it is quite painful because I have to fight against myself. And here I don't not believe in the team I support, but there is a certain amount of money I am betting on, and for me losing to the team I like is no more painful than losing when betting.

And for me, it's quite ridiculous when we bet on a team whose chances of winning are quite small, because it's the same as throwing away money that we have for free. Even though it's a team we like. and I can do that, because I enjoy the betting more than the match itself.
I don't blame the employee, how do they expect him to keep on risking his money on them while the club is incompetent with lesser potential of winning the matches, sacking him in a way was irrelevant since whether him betting on them or not will not guarantee the outcome of the game to be played, so on whose fault did they loose their matches.

During my country semi final on the AFCON, I took the risk on betting on the opposing team due to how my country was pressuring their opponent and this country were given higher odds so I risked little amount of money on them to win, at last my country won and qualified to the final and my decision was made for me not to loose on both ends, either we lose or win am benefiting. Maybe by doing this, I should have been moved to prison, dragging to the point being made it wasn't a justified reason of sacking the employee.

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June 16, 2024, 09:03:24 PM
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When the opportunity to win is on the opposing team, why don't I decide to place a bet on the opposing team, even though it is quite painful because I have to fight against myself. And here I don't not believe in the team I support, but there is a certain amount of money I am betting on, and for me losing to the team I like is no more painful than losing when betting.

And for me, it's quite ridiculous when we bet on a team whose chances of winning are quite small, because it's the same as throwing away money that we have for free. Even though it's a team we like. and I can do that, because I enjoy the betting more than the match itself.
It all depending on the kind of fan that one could be but when it comes to making money, we can still decide to lose a bet just because of our club. There is nothing people can nut do for their club. I have also seen a case when a fan was fight for his club because they are making fun of them. It is good we don't become too emotional about the club that we are supporting because that could bring a big problem to us if we don't know how to control our anger. It is good we prevent anything that is going to make us lose bet if we can only foreseen what could happen in the future.

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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
Betting against the club I support is the easiest thing for me to do and I will do it again. It's your choice to add sentiments to your gambling, but in real gambling, it is certainly not about sentiment, so you dissociate yourself from the love, bias, or affiliation whatsoever so that they will not cloud your judgment. The truth is that when it is "betting," you are actually committing your money to it, do you want to lose your money for sentiment/love's sake? That is the truth. For this, those who are taking betting seriously will never think twice about betting against their clubs when it is obvious that the opponent will win. This is unless you just want to lose deliberately which I do not see much wisdom him.

As for an employee as well, the same thing applies and I do not think it has anything to do with the work over there. I can be judged by my conscience only if I am being paid but not delivering what I was paying for. But so far I bet by using my money, our contract has nothing to do with betting on you or not, it is now my money. Well, in the end, if this guy sues the club for reinstatement or damages, I don't think the club will win because they do not have the solid ground to sack him under the law. It's his money so he can use it the way he wants and he is not responsible for the poor performance of the club which they refused to change for years.

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June 17, 2024, 07:20:33 AM
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
While I don't really have a club that I support or a fan of, I imagine that if I had one, I wouldn't mind betting against them, at the end of the day, as long as I don't have a superfan pointing a loaded gun at my head asking me to bet in favor of the club I support the decision always lies with me, and if that decision leads me to winning money, I'll take that chance, even if it means "betraying" your club. You have to understand that there's little to no chance that the club you support's even aware you exist, or that they'd care if you die unless you get televised as a superfan, by then is it really worth it basing your personality and life choices, even if it's minor ones like betting on clubs as such? It's just a sad way to live and gamble in my opinion.

So yeah, I can be a fan, but I'm not gonna go so far as to leave logic and reason at the door.

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June 17, 2024, 07:37:59 AM
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Its better not to mix being a fan and finances. Being a fan does not mean that a person must bet only on his favourite club in every game they play. A fan can support his club differently. Imho its better not to bet at all if you feel like your club is going to be destroyed. Better spend money that you suppose to bet on a clubs merchandise instead, and cheer them from the tribune. But if a person feels like he cant live without betting, casinos offer variety of bets. Place a bet on something like number of corner kicks your favourite club is going to make.

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June 17, 2024, 07:48:56 AM
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Its better not to mix being a fan and finances. Being a fan does not mean that a person must bet only on his favourite club in every game they play. A fan can support his club differently. Imho its better not to bet at all if you feel like your club is going to be destroyed. Better spend money that you suppose to bet on a clubs merchandise instead, and cheer them from the tribune. But if a person feels like he cant live without betting, casinos offer variety of bets. Place a bet on something like number of corner kicks your favourite club is going to make.
Of course, a true fan will not bet against his favorite team, but there are also fans who can make this bet and make money on it, because they see a lot of what is happening in the team, feel what is happening between the players, what teamwork they have, honed by years of playing together and other little things that even a professional may not notice. After all, professionals watch many teams to place a bet, but fans only watch one. Generally speaking, betting against your club shows what is more important for a person, the team or the money.

A few years ago I also had this choice, one of my favorite teams was very weak, and at that moment I desperately needed money, and I had to make one bet, although not a big one, and it won against my club.

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June 17, 2024, 07:59:22 AM
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When the opportunity to win is on the opposing team, why don't I decide to place a bet on the opposing team, even though it is quite painful because I have to fight against myself. And here I don't not believe in the team I support, but there is a certain amount of money I am betting on, and for me losing to the team I like is no more painful than losing when betting.

And for me, it's quite ridiculous when we bet on a team whose chances of winning are quite small, because it's the same as throwing away money that we have for free. Even though it's a team we like. and I can do that, because I enjoy the betting more than the match itself.
Gambling isn’t all about taking the side in which they are close to you, but it’s all about money making and looking for big chances where you can maximize your profits. And for that, even if it means betting on the opposite team, I would still do that. Betting against your club that you supported does not necessarily mean that you are betraying them, but it’s because you just bet on which you think there is high probability of winning. After all, gambling is all about money, so we should stick to it.

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June 17, 2024, 08:47:42 AM
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It all depending on the kind of fan that one could be but when it comes to making money, we can still decide to lose a bet just because of our club. There is nothing people can nut do for their club. I have also seen a case when a fan was fight for his club because they are making fun of them. It is good we don't become too emotional about the club that we are supporting because that could bring a big problem to us if we don't know how to control our anger. It is good we prevent anything that is going to make us lose bet if we can only foreseen what could happen in the future.
When that is related to money, people can against their favorite club and place their bet on the opposite club. No one will know what they will do because they can place a bet secretly and not have to tells to other people about what their choice. Many cases happens between the fan of every club and that will still happens in the future although many of them gets educating from others not to becomes emotional.

When we wants to place a bet for our favorite club, we can do that without telling to other so there will be no problem between us. We can place a bet, enjoy the match, and see the outcomes. That will be better to all people who place their bet because they will not becomes emotional because a simple thing.

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June 18, 2024, 02:23:44 PM
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When the opportunity to win is on the opposing team, why don't I decide to place a bet on the opposing team, even though it is quite painful because I have to fight against myself. And here I don't not believe in the team I support, but there is a certain amount of money I am betting on, and for me losing to the team I like is no more painful than losing when betting.

And for me, it's quite ridiculous when we bet on a team whose chances of winning are quite small, because it's the same as throwing away money that we have for free. Even though it's a team we like. and I can do that, because I enjoy the betting more than the match itself.
Gambling isn’t all about taking the side in which they are close to you, but it’s all about money making and looking for big chances where you can maximize your profits. And for that, even if it means betting on the opposite team, I would still do that. Betting against your club that you supported does not necessarily mean that you are betraying them, but it’s because you just bet on which you think there is high probability of winning. After all, gambling is all about money, so we should stick to it.

Yes and let's look at this from the other side, which I think is obvious that if you are forced to vote for the club you work for for reasons such as not wanting to be called a traitor then if it turns out that in the end your club loses will they compensate you for the money you lost? I think of course not. What this means is that from a common sense and rational point of view as long as you are gambling with your own money then everything is up to you and you are free to choose any team to bet on.

As you said, gambling is after all about the choices of each individual whose decisions affect the fate of the money they bet (although the outcome is quite dependent on luck). This means that the case described by the OP is an unfortunate situation for the person, there is no justice there because after all, all the actions and decisions he made were for him alone regardless of winning or losing. It is very unreasonable to hear a company sacking a worker just because of a choice in betting, because after all he did not harm the club because of gambling using personal funds.


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June 18, 2024, 02:53:16 PM
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When the opportunity to win is on the opposing team, why don't I decide to place a bet on the opposing team, even though it is quite painful because I have to fight against myself. And here I don't not believe in the team I support, but there is a certain amount of money I am betting on, and for me losing to the team I like is no more painful than losing when betting.

And for me, it's quite ridiculous when we bet on a team whose chances of winning are quite small, because it's the same as throwing away money that we have for free. Even though it's a team we like. and I can do that, because I enjoy the betting more than the match itself.

that's right, we have to be able to distinguish between gambling and support for the team. when we play as a gambler, we have to choose which team has the highest chance of winning, even when it has to fight our favorite team, then we have to be able to choose the opposing team. because money is money. we have to be able to think wisely and choose which team benefits us. unless we really don't want to gamble against our favorite team, that's another story, but i personally when i have the opportunity i will take the best that benefits me.

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June 18, 2024, 03:03:29 PM
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When the opportunity to win is on the opposing team, why don't I decide to place a bet on the opposing team, even though it is quite painful because I have to fight against myself. And here I don't not believe in the team I support, but there is a certain amount of money I am betting on, and for me losing to the team I like is no more painful than losing when betting.

And for me, it's quite ridiculous when we bet on a team whose chances of winning are quite small, because it's the same as throwing away money that we have for free. Even though it's a team we like. and I can do that, because I enjoy the betting more than the match itself.

that's right, we have to be able to distinguish between gambling and support for the team. when we play as a gambler, we have to choose which team has the highest chance of winning, even when it has to fight our favorite team, then we have to be able to choose the opposing team. because money is money. we have to be able to think wisely and choose which team benefits us. unless we really don't want to gamble against our favorite team, that's another story, but i personally when i have the opportunity i will take the best that benefits me.
Gambling is a game that one must input his resources before he can be eligible to play and that's why when a gambler is gambling, his emotions aren't expected to be his priority rather his quest to win his bets should the top factor in making any decision. When I started sports gambling, I was losing a lot of money because I was more interested in banking on my beloved Real Madrid to win and that was the era they weren't doing well. Despite my losses, I was still betting on my beloved team to even when the odds doesn't favour them until a day a close friend of mine told me that that isn't how gambling works. He said if I must succeed in gambling, I must learn how to do away with my emotions and chose the the teams I'm more confident with to get me winnings so I accepted what he said and started gambling without emotions and saw a big change in my winnings.
Today, Real Madrid my club is doing exceptionally well and I'll definitely bet on them to win games but whenever I sense that they're not inform again, I'll stop banking on them fir victory.

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June 18, 2024, 03:10:53 PM
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Not everyone would bet against their club, but some people do not mind. Look at it this way, it can turn out to be a win-win situation for you, if you bet against your club and your club comes out victorious in the game, you very well lose your money, but you are happy that your team won. Then again, if your team loses, you win your bet, and that can help cover the sadness of the defeat, as for me, i can't really remember the last time i bet against my team, if i think they'd lose, i'll avoid adding the game to my bet slip.



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June 18, 2024, 03:28:55 PM
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

For me personally, betting is about personal choice and has nothing to do with one's personal place of work. Because after all, when someone bets then of course they will hope for luck. After all, the person or employee may also only work there even though they are not basically fans of the team. Therefore, it is normal for him to bet on different teams or bet on opposing teams. Unless someone is a member of that team's fans, then it might be very inappropriate for someone to place a bet on the opposing team instead of their favorite team. But for me personally, the case here is about work and not being a fan member, so the case is different, and for me it is very inappropriate to treat it in that way, but hopefully the person gets a new, better job.

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June 18, 2024, 03:32:29 PM
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In fact, betting against the club you support is quite rational. I will now explain why I think so. I used to think that betting against your favorite team was a betrayal. However, I once watched a video with a blogger who made excellent arguments for betting against your favorite team. And vice versa. It is absolutely wrong to bet on your favorite team. When you bet on your favorite team to win, you most likely will not be objective. You will exaggerate your chances of winning. Conversely, you will downplay the chances of your favorite team losing. It is much better to bet against your favorite team. If you lose, you will have fun. If you win, you get money.

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June 18, 2024, 03:49:00 PM
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Not everyone would bet against their club, but some people do not mind. Look at it this way, it can turn out to be a win-win situation for you, if you bet against your club and your club comes out victorious in the game, you very well lose your money, but you are happy that your team won. Then again, if your team loses, you win your bet, and that can help cover the sadness of the defeat, as for me, i can't really remember the last time i bet against my team, if i think they'd lose, i'll avoid adding the game to my bet slip.
I think there is no need to do anything complicated, when we feel that our team is not in good shape and then against other strong teams too, there is no need to bet for the opponent let alone for our team, there is no compulsion to bet with the team we support, I If given the choice, you would definitely prefer to just watch it and bet on another match so you don't have to feel annoyed when you lose a bet but are happy to see your team win because you bet on your opponent, and vice versa.

The point is how can we bet on something that is impossible for us to win, I once had a moment when the team I supported did not play its key players because many were injured of course it would be difficult to win but in the opposing position they were also a strong team and have never been defeated, it will definitely be an advantage to bet on the opposing team, but that doesn't mean the team we support will also lose because they can also play because they have a lot more playing experience than the opponent, so the solution that is not the most confusing is not to bet on that match but bet on another match.  Wink

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