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June 04, 2024, 07:44:38 AM
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If you're doing well in school, wouldn't you have higher chance of getting a high paying job? I mean bitcoin is just there after all, your investment in bitcoin can wait. Don't ever risk your future career just because bitcoin is a really good investment for the long-term, remember that you can't just pull out any of your investments in bitcoin just to supplement your needs, you need a stable income after all so you can hodl your bitcoin in peace.

You're right having other source of income is very good because this will enable us to hodl our bitcoin for long term, but if you don't have any source of income apart from bitcoin investment probably you will find it very difficult to hodl. because challenges might come from any angle since you don't have any other source of income so there will not be any other option for you than to pull out your bitcoin, This is why is very important to have a stable income.

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June 04, 2024, 07:47:34 AM
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This is the real thing about investing in Bitcoin and even in other investments. Even if you have money and the capacity to invest, not all of them will think that investment is good until they realize it, and much more on students. Because we all have different priorities and wants, especially for students they more likely prefer good vibes and spending money for enjoyment but are skeptical about future plans.

Indeed, it was regretful OP but there is perfect timing when it comes to investment. As a student, you better focus on studying and saving, just consider investing when you are fully ready. Investing is not all about money and capital and proper preparation and knowledge.
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June 04, 2024, 09:21:55 AM
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If you're doing well in school, wouldn't you have higher chance of getting a high paying job? I mean bitcoin is just there after all, your investment in bitcoin can wait. Don't ever risk your future career just because bitcoin is a really good investment for the long-term, remember that you can't just pull out any of your investments in bitcoin just to supplement your needs, you need a stable income after all so you can hodl your bitcoin in peace.

You're right having other source of income is very good because this will enable us to hodl our bitcoin for long term, but if you don't have any source of income apart from bitcoin investment probably you will find it very difficult to hodl. because challenges might come from any angle since you don't have any other source of income so there will not be any other option for you than to pull out your bitcoin, This is why is very important to have a stable income.
That's true. In order for a bitcoin investor to be able to hold their bitcoin or other crypto asset for the long term, they will need a stable and other sources of income. Because a holder cannot fully maximise the potential profit of long-term holding if they do not wait for a long time, that's the disadvantage of holding bitcoin, but it will be worth it, as has been proven multiple times. With a stable job and other sources of income, an investor could do DCA so that they could accumulate a huge portion of bitcoin slowly, step by step. That's why I dont really get those bitcoin investors or traders that does scalping because they only risking their asstes because they are increasing the odd or the leverage in order to earn even in short term, so its important for an investor to become more patient and could contain its self to be tempted to sell their bitcoin asset early.

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June 04, 2024, 10:15:17 AM
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I have one regret because I have been through this cycle. I know and also know my community who is doing what how. I don't know if there are such members in this forum, but maybe there are many who have grown up or are in this cycle, to them I would like to tell them to quit smoking and start saving money and invest in Bitcoin and ensure a bright future.

You live not only thinking about investing and saving, but there are many other things you need to think about for life with your family.
Life needs to be prepared and the scale of investment, saving and meeting life's needs must also be balanced. Believe me, chasing wealth too much doesn't necessarily make your life happier because there are many rich people who don't have a happy life with their family.
Regarding the issue of saving and investing, it is necessary and must be prepared carefully in order to achieve the success you desire.
Ensuring the future must go through planning and this is done by means of well-planned adjustments. Investing and saving also requires readiness for a stable income because otherwise, none of this can be done.

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June 04, 2024, 10:43:16 AM
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I think only few students who value their future will have the guts to save but they commonly save fiat not crypto. I haven't heard any highschool students who holds crypto but in college I read comments from our local board that some of them do and I think it also help their tuition fees and school allowances.



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June 04, 2024, 10:44:54 AM
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Because a holder cannot fully maximise the potential profit of long-term holding if they do not wait for a long time, that's the disadvantage of holding bitcoin,
To be honest, I think it’s not much of a disadvantage as much as it is an advantage.

Especially for those who want to earn but do not have the time to monitor closely their holdings, long term investments are the key to making profit while not stressing them. For investors who are also thinking about long term goals like family planning or retirement, bitcoin would be the best option.
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That's why I dont really get those bitcoin investors or traders that does scalping
I think the difference between long term holders and short term traders is their source of income. Long term holders most likely do not only rely on bitcoin to make money while traders do that’s why they need to make profit as quick as possible because there are bills to pay Wink

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June 04, 2024, 10:48:49 AM
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Unfortunately, people think that short term pleasure like smoking is better than big wealth in the future
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June 04, 2024, 10:51:47 AM
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When a student is addicted to smoking, he spends about one to one and a half dollars a day on buying cigarettes. A cost per month is $30 to $45, which if converted annually is $360 to $540. A student spends about $2,500-$3,700 on smoking over seven years.
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Someone who smokes only one pack of cigarettes a day in most EU countries will spend at least EUR 5 a day, which means about EUR 150 a month or EUR 1800 a year. This is certainly a large amount of money in some countries, but it is not small even in the EU, where in some countries you have to work for at least 3 months for that amount. All this while noting that I took into account the cheapest pack of cigarettes - so some spend much more with the addition of daily coffee and alcohol consumption in cafes.

In reality, people "throw" large amounts of money literally into the wind, but in doing so they poison themselves and others - although some in this topic think that cigarettes are not harmful to health. I don't interfere in anyone's life and say what is necessary and what is not, but I can say with certainty that people would have much better quality lives if they let go of their vices.

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June 04, 2024, 11:39:54 AM
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Unfortunately, people think that short term pleasure like smoking is better than big wealth in the future
Yet there are people who do not smoke but drink Coke.  Or who do not drink Coke or smoke either but eat fast food.  Or they do not do either, but they have a very unhealthy diet.  Or people who smoke and live up to 90 years old, but then people who live a very healthy life and die before their 20s.

I would really like to know how many of the quitters turned Rich after quitting.  Like I previously said, you can save no matter what vices you have and how shitty your life style is.  Any body can do it, even if they save a Dollar a week, that is still better than none.  But we prefer excuses instead.  Oh, only if I had not smoked for 20 years I would of been Rich today!  I quit smoking, but only if I did not purchase more fast food and clothes I would of been so Rich!

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June 04, 2024, 12:02:09 PM
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The world is changing really fast. Nowadays school students starting from 9th-10th students to college level students are indulging in smoking to show themselves smart, nowadays it has increased a lot. When a student is addicted to smoking, he spends about one to one and a half dollars a day on buying cigarettes. A cost per month is $30 to $45, which if converted annually is $360 to $540. A student spends about $2,500-$3,700 on smoking over seven years. If we had saved this amount of money in any investment or for the future without spending it unnecessarily during our student life, then the path in life would have been very easy. The most difficult journey of a student's life begins in the years after graduation, when your savings or investments may come in handy.
If a student invests in coins like bitcoin without burning $2500-3700$ in his education life and also while he is busy establishing himself, this amount of money will power the way. Many may say that bitcoin risk has little guarantee of future profits but smoking guarantees that you will die very soon. I want to say that since I took the risk, why am I not in Bitcoin!
I have one regret because I have been through this cycle. I know and also know my community who is doing what how. I don't know if there are such members in this forum, but maybe there are many who have grown up or are in this cycle, to them I would like to tell them to quit smoking and start saving money and invest in Bitcoin and ensure a bright future.
This is one reason why it is very important as parents or guardians to inculcate financial education in the life of our young ones before they even get into college and have time to indulge themselves.

The emergence of cryptocurrency not only opened our eyes to how fast the world is evolving, but it also did make us know that going to college with a degree and a good paying 9-5 job, doesn't guarantee a financial successful life. 
Investment is and has only been the right way out of poverty and the sooner we teach our kids how to invest first before they spend, the better our lives will be.

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The world is changing really fast. Nowadays school students starting from 9th-10th students to college level students are indulging in smoking to show themselves smart, nowadays it has increased a lot. When a student is addicted to smoking, he spends about one to one and a half dollars a day on buying cigarettes. A cost per month is $30 to $45, which if converted annually is $360 to $540. A student spends about $2,500-$3,700 on smoking over seven years. If we had saved this amount of money in any investment or for the future without spending it unnecessarily during our student life, then the path in life would have been very easy. The most difficult journey of a student's life begins in the years after graduation, when your savings or investments may come in handy.
If a student invests in coins like bitcoin without burning $2500-3700$ in his education life and also while he is busy establishing himself, this amount of money will power the way. Many may say that bitcoin risk has little guarantee of future profits but smoking guarantees that you will die very soon. I want to say that since I took the risk, why am I not in Bitcoin!
I have one regret because I have been through this cycle. I know and also know my community who is doing what how. I don't know if there are such members in this forum, but maybe there are many who have grown up or are in this cycle, to them I would like to tell them to quit smoking and start saving money and invest in Bitcoin and ensure a bright future.
This is one reason why it is very important as parents or guardians to inculcate financial education in the life of our young ones before they even get into college and have time to indulge themselves.

The emergence of cryptocurrency not only opened our eyes to how fast the world is evolving, but it also did make us know that going to college with a degree and a good paying 9-5 job, doesn't guarantee a financial successful life. 
Investment is and has only been the right way out of poverty and the sooner we teach our kids how to invest first before they spend, the better our lives will be.

Like don't spoil them and give what they want as easy as they can since for sure that this could never give any result to certain person especially if they think that its easy for them to get something that they wanted.

For sure when they grow up they became useless individual since those people don't know anything. So much better to teach young people to think about how they can get those things that they wanted thru the efforts made since for sure in future all thing what they do and skilled learned will surely help them to build a good foundation that can give them a better life. Investment will come after that once they are fully aware of everything including the risk which those people may possibly facing on along the way on their ventures.

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June 04, 2024, 12:34:20 PM
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Sometimes habits and environment influence a person's activities. In fact, when he focuses on business such as investment, or something like that, when smoking has become a habit, and they are used to it, it is very difficult to give up. Apart from that, there will be many alibis to avoid this, for example, even people who don't smoke find it difficult to do this. Well, I think your goal is very good to give people encouragement to invest, but it all depends on their habits and environment again. Hopefully many people follow this advice.

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What exactly do you mean by "students don't invest, and they shouldn't be taught to do this because they are not mentally or emotionally stable"? What level of students do you think op is talking about or referring to, did he mention that the students he is talking about are nursery or elementary pupils?
OP mentioned starting in 9th grade, and I'm a high school teacher. That's why I can say they're not ready—at least most of them. Unless the OP says it started with college students, I wouldn't argue.

Many may say that bitcoin risk has little guarantee of future profits but smoking guarantees that you will die very soon.
Bullshit, cigarettes don't affect your age, for real.
I did not read any where where op said cigarettes affects one's age,
Do you actually read?

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June 04, 2024, 12:56:45 PM
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Some people use it to calm their self, relax or as a stress reliever.
While I agree that it is better for them to invest it rather than burning it, but we also need to consider why they are doing it.
Everyone of us has vices it isn't just smoking, but also drinking and other like excessive buying of things we don't really need or already have.



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June 04, 2024, 01:06:15 PM
Last edit: June 04, 2024, 01:17:15 PM by lovesmayfamilis
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Also, ask how much health your students are wasting by starting to smoke at a young age and how long they have damaged their lungs. Smoking does not go unnoticed if you quit smoking today. The mark will remain for many years.
But if we translate everything into unnecessary spending, we can also say that people could limit themselves to alcohol, junk food, entertainment, and so on. But you can’t transfer everything to hoarding. This is life; people are different, they have different preferences, and we have no right to dictate to them what is good and what is bad.
The truest truth is the one you believe in. If you are investing in Bitcoin, go ahead. But let everyone else decide for themselves.


Many may say that bitcoin risk has little guarantee of future profits but smoking guarantees that you will die very soon.
Bullshit, cigarettes don't affect your age, for real.

This reminds me of someone we tell him is an alcoholic. He will never admit it. Grin

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June 04, 2024, 01:56:25 PM
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~snip~
I would really like to know how many of the quitters turned Rich after quitting.


No one is going to become rich in the sense that they can buy a yacht or a super luxury car if they quit smoking or eating unhealthy food - but anyone who does will very likely benefit greatly to their health - and if it is only about quitting smoking, then it will have a positive effect on the people around that person.

I can tell you that I decided a long time ago to stop smoking and eating junk food, and considering that I smoked the most expensive cigarettes and ate a lot of such food, I saved a lot of money - to put it like this vividly, enough to buy a new mid-class car and that's just for a period of 10 years. I invested a part of my saved money in BTC a long time ago, and it was the best investment ever because that BTC still exists and is worth a small fortune today Wink

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If you're just going to save money, it's better to spend it on buying Bitcoin, and at least every passing day or month, even if it takes a year, for sure there will be a change in the increase in its value in the market. Then it has been tested by long-term investors.

If I look at it, it's a good thing to do if they really understand the potential of Bitcoin. For sure, all the people who like to save money at home and don't like the bank will buy it when they find out about it. of Bitcoin in real life only.

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June 04, 2024, 05:39:04 PM
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You can't force everyone to have the same belief as you, you might not consider it but those people that are smoking cigarettes, they already know that they're wasting their money on that, most of them want to relieve their anxiety since cigarettes are a pretty good way to relieve that, the only problem is that it's addictive to some level. Also, did you know that even if you've got the right answer or the right thing to do, it wouldn't matter much because they're not interested at all and they don't really care too much about what you've got to say and to them, you're an annoying person that needs to shut up.

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Well, it's true that if someone doesn't buy useless and harmful things and saves money, they can use that money to make some investment or use it for something useful in the future, but I would say that one doesn't specifically need to keep saving $1 bills each day for this purpose but it is a better practice if they spend that money on food or other stuff that are beneficial for them instead of buying cigarettes and other harmful substances.

I often hear people making estimates that if we save x amount each day, we can have x amount as our capital at the end of the year that we can use to make investments, I get it, it's right, but it is better that we leave these things on our income and spend the money we have currently on things that can be beneficial for us at the present time.

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As the world changes rapidly, reality becomes more difficult. OP I see what you mean, see what the non smoker did from student life? Must have spent his money from his student life on food items or traveling, this is what happens in most cases in student life. Since their parents provide three-four meals a day from home, may he must have able to save his money. The money was useful in his future as you explained with the example of a smoker. But OP I'm not disrespecting you, the point you brought up was a good one. No one thinks things through in a practical sense. But I can only work to spread these things as a message to the next generation, a young student will decide for himself how to proceed in the future life cycle.

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