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December 19, 2011, 04:55:13 AM
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Hi there,

I am interested in making a donation to wikipedia, but I cannot afford a large donation.

If I send you a small donation via paypal, etc., a sizeable percentage will be eaten up in fees, and I want to donate to wikipedia, not paypal, visa or mastercard.

I would like to make the donation via bitcoin, so that wikipedia will receive the entire amount, but I do not see a bitcoin donation address anywhere on your site.

Can you please let me know what bitcoin address I can use to send a donation to?

Highest Regards,
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December 19, 2011, 04:57:27 AM
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I've sent something like 5 emails to different people from the WikiMedia organization. They are not interested in bitcoin donations. I know several people even promised a couple hundred or thousand dollars worth in BTC if they put up an address. I think Wikipedia doesn't want to be associated with something that has been used by Wikileaks...

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December 19, 2011, 05:08:17 AM
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That sounds so immature to not accept Bitcoin because Wikileaks has, if that is the case.
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December 19, 2011, 05:10:17 AM
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That sounds so immature to not accept Bitcoin because Wikileaks has, if that is the case.
They never said it directly, but it got pretty irritating.

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December 19, 2011, 05:22:16 AM
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I know they have rejected bitcoin several times, I was just adding one more request to the pile because I was on wikipedia and saw their huge banner begging for donations. Cheesy

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December 19, 2011, 05:38:59 AM
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Hi there,

I am interested in making a donation to wikipedia, but I cannot afford a large donation.

If I send you a small donation via paypal, etc., a sizeable percentage will be eaten up in fees, and I want to donate to wikipedia, not paypal, visa or mastercard.

I would like to make the donation via bitcoin, so that wikipedia will receive the entire amount, but I do not see a bitcoin donation address anywhere on your site.

Can you please let me know what bitcoin address I can use to send a donation to?

Highest Regards,
Jeremy West

Looks good, I wrote once already. I don't remember to which address, what's best to write to to actually get read and maybe a response?

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December 19, 2011, 05:54:31 AM
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I will NEVER give wiki ANY bitcoin EVER, they do not deserve it!

one day they WILL post a bitcoin address. everyone on this forum should vow to never give them bitcoin either.

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December 19, 2011, 11:04:55 AM
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+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

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December 19, 2011, 11:09:32 AM
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+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Perhaps someone here should come up with a competitor to wikipedia. Smiley

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December 19, 2011, 05:52:52 PM
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+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Perhaps someone here should come up with a competitor to wikileaks. Smiley

A competitor to WikiLeaks? You've been dippin' into Atlas's medication?  Grin
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December 19, 2011, 08:15:54 PM
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+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Perhaps someone here should come up with a competitor to wikileaks. Smiley

A competitor to WikiLeaks? You've been dippin' into Atlas's medication?  Grin


Fixed. Smiley

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December 19, 2011, 10:41:54 PM
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+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Providing all the knowledge in the world for free to everyone?

"Status quo propaganda".

Of course wikipedia is not gonna accept/endorse Bitcoins when the only current precedents by lawmakers have been negative. Wikipedia is a big fucking deal, at present its much more important than Bitcoin. It's a bit like Ron Paul not accepting Bitcoin directly, and noone blames him for that.
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December 19, 2011, 10:49:46 PM
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I have read several threads like this, and was wonder if people should start putting in different currencies.  For instance, if I want to pay in Philippine peso rather than USD, will they take it?  What about North Korean, Congo wherever?  Some of those currencies are less tradable than bitcoin.  (Their arguments about maintaining charity status are pretty silly.)

Maybe we should really piss them off and say we want to donate gold and diamonds.

Edit: sent them an email with the above sentiment.  Hope they have a happy christmas getting addresses from people at their street appeal if anonymous donations are such a problem for them as a charity.
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December 19, 2011, 11:18:19 PM
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+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Providing all the knowledge in the world for free to everyone?

"Status quo propaganda".

Of course wikipedia is not gonna accept/endorse Bitcoins when the only current precedents by lawmakers have been negative. Wikipedia is a big fucking deal, at present its much more important than Bitcoin. It's a bit like Ron Paul not accepting Bitcoin directly, and noone blames him for that.


meh, wikipedia is really cool. but they are being very uncool when it comes to bitcoin. and with no good reason.

simply put they aren't will to take a tiny risk by Validating Bitcoin. they must believe bitcoin is Dirt, and not worth while....

would you donate to someone that thinks like this?

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December 19, 2011, 11:20:33 PM
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+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Perhaps someone here should come up with a competitor to wikileaks. Smiley

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I see what you've done there.

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December 19, 2011, 11:57:47 PM
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+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Perhaps someone here should come up with a competitor to wikileaks. Smiley

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I see what you've done there.

Jeremy fixed it, right after taking Atlas's medication.

Here was my latest thoughts on the Wikipedia issue: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50158.msg653388#msg653388

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December 20, 2011, 12:44:35 AM
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Fairly standard reply.  Glad I'm not relying on cashing in my euro or USD with a government.  I wonder what they would get if they turned up to the federal reserve and said, "here, I'm cashing in my $100".

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Dear Patrick,

The Wikimedia Foundation, as a donor-driven organization, has a fiduciary duty to be responsible and prudent with its money. This has been interpreted to mean that we do not accept "artificial" currencies - that is, those not backed by the full faith and credit of an issuing government. We do, however, strive to provide as many methods of donating as possible and continue to monitor Bitcoin with interest and may revisit this position should circumstances change. In the meantime, you may wish to view alternative methods of donation at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give
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December 20, 2011, 12:57:13 AM
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Fairly standard reply.  Glad I'm not relying on cashing in my euro or USD with a government.  I wonder what they would get if they turned up to the federal reserve and said, "here, I'm cashing in my $100".

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Dear Patrick,

The Wikimedia Foundation, as a donor-driven organization, has a fiduciary duty to be responsible and prudent with its money. This has been interpreted to mean that we do not accept "artificial" currencies - that is, those not backed by the full faith and credit of an issuing government. We do, however, strive to provide as many methods of donating as possible and continue to monitor Bitcoin with interest and may revisit this position should circumstances change. In the meantime, you may wish to view alternative methods of donation at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give
Sincerely,
Heather
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I wonder if Heather had help with Wikipedia in the penning of this reply? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiduciary

Furthermore, Wikipedia didn't back down from the FBI, yet has a fiduciary duty to be responsible and prudent with its money. http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/08/03/fbi.seal.wikipedia/index.html

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December 20, 2011, 01:04:21 AM
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To those suggesting they are bitcoin haters or in favor of maintaining the status quo:

Give them a fucking break. It is their right to decide if and when they will accept bitcoins. "Watching with interest" is more than their duty. They, like anyone rational, will start accepting them in a heartbeat when they decide it is in their best interest to do so.

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December 20, 2011, 01:18:50 AM
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"... those not backed by the full faith and credit of an issuing government."

You think they will accept my trillion Zimbabwe dollars?  Eh, their justification is bogus.  I'll take as much SCoin or Ixcoin as anyone will give me.  Right away I'll convert it to BTC of course.

But yeah; if they don't want my support, it is fully their right not to get it.  Wikileaks did.  Wikipedia won't.
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