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December 23, 2024, 09:52:40 AM
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Honestly, this new system being so shocking to big teams is exactly why it was created, so that we would have some good league structure where things could change. I am not even joking when I say that we could see the number of teams growing smaller eventually, and teams having more games instead. Imagine a scenario where it's 24 teams, and everyone plays 23 games, or something like that, it would be insane.

Of course when it's 23 games, then you can't have equals amount of home and away games, so that's a bit confusing, but I am sure they could come up with something, like maybe 25 games and 24 games, 12 home and 12 away or whatever. That seems like a much better method. This would of course hurt the leagues, because teams would have players going for 80+ games a year, we are already seeing plenty of injuries, so they need to fix that somehow.

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December 23, 2024, 10:17:20 AM
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I'm curious about why there is such a big time gap between Round 6 and Round 7.  Huh  Next games are starting by January 21. I don't remember such a big interval during the group stage in the old format honestly. This kind of a break was only given during the time between the end of the group stage and last 16 phase. I miss the games already.

The points are still really close in most parts of the standings. Balances can change very easily to determine top 8 qualifiers and teams joining playoffs. I'm wondering what Real Madrid, Manchester City and especially PSG will do.  Smiley

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December 23, 2024, 11:55:06 AM
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I'm curious about why there is such a big time gap between Round 6 and Round 7.  Huh  Next games are starting by January 21. I don't remember such a big interval during the group stage in the old format honestly. This kind of a break was only given during the time between the end of the group stage and last 16 phase. I miss the games already.

The points are still really close in most parts of the standings. Balances can change very easily to determine top 8 qualifiers and teams joining playoffs. I'm wondering what Real Madrid, Manchester City and especially PSG will do.  Smiley
It has been adjusted and maybe there is a consideration where there is such a long break, because the schedule is tight and it is also approaching the end of the year. Indeed, I also feel the same way where there is a long break and that makes us have to be more patient waiting until the next match. If we use the old format, then actually we already know which teams will qualify for the next round, but with the new format we have 2 more matches and there is even a play-off match to compete for the last 16 from 16 teams in the standings from position 9 to position 24.

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December 23, 2024, 12:53:46 PM
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Honestly, this new system being so shocking to big teams is exactly why it was created, so that we would have some good league structure where things could change. I am not even joking when I say that we could see the number of teams growing smaller eventually, and teams having more games instead. Imagine a scenario where it's 24 teams, and everyone plays 23 games, or something like that, it would be insane.

Of course when it's 23 games, then you can't have equals amount of home and away games, so that's a bit confusing, but I am sure they could come up with something, like maybe 25 games and 24 games, 12 home and 12 away or whatever. That seems like a much better method. This would of course hurt the leagues, because teams would have players going for 80+ games a year, we are already seeing plenty of injuries, so they need to fix that somehow.
I don't really understand what you really want to say. Do you mean the current competition system in the Champions League? I don't think so, because right now we only have 8 matches with a league system.
Do you want to have a changed format again and all matches will be played with a meeting system? That would be crazy as you said, with this new format alone the schedule is very tight, especially if the format is like what you said.
This is our first season using the new format and maybe there will be an evaluation that will be done after finishing the competition and that is still very long and we don't know if there will be revisions or anything or not.

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December 23, 2024, 01:47:34 PM
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Indeed. Real Madrid is always a tough team, they won't give up to get the best result in this competition. Even if they are in 20th place, they will keep fighting to reach the final stage of the competition. Sure, the must improve their performance if they want to get the best result. I'm very sure Ancelotti has evaluated many things to change Real Madrid game. Although there are many critics from the fans, Real Madrid will handle it wisely. I also still believe in Real Madrid and their great records for many years. If we really support them, just wait for their return to the best performance...

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Their experience is one thing they keep leveraging on and never letting any situation at any time be a reason to back out or fall back in their pursuit and change for the league title, even when every other person be thinking or seeing that they may not be able to win, they still stay very optimistic and resilient in their chase and most often they get the best rewards off it so seeing and hearing this from ancelotti isn't like a surprise and he always believes he's got his shit together and Indeed he does.
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December 23, 2024, 02:04:07 PM
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A title is a title, plus it's not the kind of title that's won in trash tournaments, to qualify for it you need to win the Champions League. Ancelotti has become the most decorated coach in Real Madrid history thanks to this title. I think he is happy, as are the other players who are pleased to get a tick in a long list of various trophies.
If we are to look at performance after players retire from their footballing career, what speaks for you is the trophies you have in your cabinet or on the shelf or wherever you choose to display those winning days. It doesn’t even matter if you won them off the bench. You’ve got something to show for your footballing career that a lot of other players don’t.
The team you might have won that from doesn’t matter too. So yeah, Real Madrid might suck at the moment but, they’ve made good of the squad. We would most likely want to see them in their formal glory but, it is what it is at the time.

Yep. Take Camavinga for example - he came to Real in 2021 and has already won every title that can be won in club football. Sounds pretty good. Now let's take Kane  Grin He is 31 years old and this season he will get (with a probability of 97%) his first title in the form of a Bundesliga winner. These are different levels.
It is clear that different titles have different values, but it is obvious that no one would deliberately give up any title.

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December 23, 2024, 02:34:07 PM
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A title is a title, plus it's not the kind of title that's won in trash tournaments, to qualify for it you need to win the Champions League. Ancelotti has become the most decorated coach in Real Madrid history thanks to this title. I think he is happy, as are the other players who are pleased to get a tick in a long list of various trophies.
If we are to look at performance after players retire from their footballing career, what speaks for you is the trophies you have in your cabinet or on the shelf or wherever you choose to display those winning days. It doesn’t even matter if you won them off the bench. You’ve got something to show for your footballing career that a lot of other players don’t.
The team you might have won that from doesn’t matter too. So yeah, Real Madrid might suck at the moment but, they’ve made good of the squad. We would most likely want to see them in their formal glory but, it is what it is at the time.

Yep. Take Camavinga for example - he came to Real in 2021 and has already won every title that can be won in club football. Sounds pretty good. Now let's take Kane  Grin He is 31 years old and this season he will get (with a probability of 97%) his first title in the form of a Bundesliga winner. These are different levels.
It is clear that different titles have different values, but it is obvious that no one would deliberately give up any title.
Title is the main reason of the competition and no club or player will give up on winning titles, because that's what will increase your net worth and also bring more funds for the club. I will be the happiest man if Bayern finally win Bundesliga because Kane will be the most beneficial player.

You can use Madrid as an example, the are the best because they have won more titles than any other club. Big titles not small one and that is why they're also the richest.

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Yes I think hardly anybody thought that Liverpool would be standing where they are after Klopp left the club. But to be honest Klopp left a team behind that was so well coached and prepared. Now since Slot was totally unknown, I thought that the team spirit might decline significantly, but he managed to keep everyone in shape and they play an impressive game. If they score a goal, it is so hard to fight back against them because as you said their counter attack football is so effective. And Salah is still doing so well. I thought he may have had the best years of his life under Klopp, but he is still world class level.
Slot replacing klop initially came with too many uncertainties as there were some kind of doubts if he's capable enough to carry on with the legacy of klop, but as time goes on, we see that klop did left Liverpool in a very good and safe hand, they are doing as good as they have done under klops management, some persons including myself never taught of Salah still this optimal at this point, but interestingly he's not passed his performing prime just yet and Liverpool still have the potential to scale further heights this season and probably beyond.
Slot has done an amazing job in maintaining Liverpool momentum after Klopp departure, although this season is his first season coaching, but he is able to bring an effective approach to improving the game that Klopp has built before, although it may be too early for us to say if slot will be able to match Klopp achievements at Liverpool, but at this time the probability of bringing Liverpool to EPL and UCL champions is almost 90% in my opinion, his ability to optimise each player is key in building Liverpool to be better.
Salah has shown that age is not a barrier to keep performing optimally and consistency in scoring goals.
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Slot has done an amazing job in maintaining Liverpool momentum after Klopp departure, although this season is his first season coaching, but he is able to bring an effective approach to improving the game that Klopp has built before, although it may be too early for us to say if slot will be able to match Klopp achievements at Liverpool, but at this time the probability of bringing Liverpool to EPL and UCL champions is almost 90% in my opinion, his ability to optimise each player is key in building Liverpool to be better.
Salah has shown that age is not a barrier to keep performing optimally and consistency in scoring goals.
Yes, we can't rush to say that Liverpool's achievements with Jurgen Klopp can be matched by Arne Slot, because the time spent by Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool is a very long time, while Arne Slot has just joined Liverpool this season. However, it is not impossible that Arne Slot will be able to match Jurgen Klopp's achievements or even exceed the achievements presented by the previous Liverpool coach. I can speculate like this if Arne Slot can be consistent with what he is currently showing. Because usually a coach can be successful in his first season, and then experience a decline.

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December 23, 2024, 03:09:29 PM
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Indeed. Real Madrid is always a tough team, they won't give up to get the best result in this competition. Even if they are in 20th place, they will keep fighting to reach the final stage of the competition. Sure, the must improve their performance if they want to get the best result. I'm very sure Ancelotti has evaluated many things to change Real Madrid game. Although there are many critics from the fans, Real Madrid will handle it wisely. I also still believe in Real Madrid and their great records for many years. If we really support them, just wait for their return to the best performance...

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When Real Madrid was having a difficult start to the season, many people were of the opinion that it'll take too long for them yo bouce back to their best again but personally, I had a different view and that's because of the records of the club manager. In recent weeks, we can attest to the fact that Real Madrid is performing exceptionally again and that's why I also think they'll surely reach the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition even when I know they're currently not in a good position now.
Against all odds, I will always trust Carlo Ancelotti to always deliver and I'm happy he's doing that at the moment
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When Real Madrid was having a difficult start to the season, many people were of the opinion that it'll take too long for them yo bouce back to their best again but personally, I had a different view and that's because of the records of the club manager. In recent weeks, we can attest to the fact that Real Madrid is performing exceptionally again and that's why I also think they'll surely reach the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition even when I know they're currently not in a good position now.
Against all odds, I will always trust Carlo Ancelotti to always deliver and I'm happy he's doing that at the moment
I also have confidence that Madrid can qualify for the next round. especially if you look at their opponents in the remaining 2 matches. I don't think they will be as strong as the 6 teams they have played before.
maybe most fans are starting to be dissatisfied with the team's performance. but we will see how Madrid will rise. they are a UCL giant and it will not be easy to get rid of them.
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When Real Madrid was having a difficult start to the season, many people were of the opinion that it'll take too long for them yo bouce back to their best again but personally, I had a different view and that's because of the records of the club manager. In recent weeks, we can attest to the fact that Real Madrid is performing exceptionally again and that's why I also think they'll surely reach the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition even when I know they're currently not in a good position now.
Against all odds, I will always trust Carlo Ancelotti to always deliver and I'm happy he's doing that at the moment
I also have confidence that Madrid can qualify for the next round. especially if you look at their opponents in the remaining 2 matches. I don't think they will be as strong as the 6 teams they have played before.
maybe most fans are starting to be dissatisfied with the team's performance. but we will see how Madrid will rise. they are a UCL giant and it will not be easy to get rid of them.
I am also confident that Real Madrid will be able to secure full points when facing RB Salzburg and Brest in the remaining two matches. Ancelotti is starting to calm down a bit because the injury storm is starting to subside, therefore Real Madrid chances of returning to consistent performance are also increasing. David Alaba has returned to training, only Carvajal and Militao still have to undergo treatment until August 2025.
Moreover, if Ancelotti recruits new players in the January transfer market, then it is likely that Real Madrid will be able to talk a lot. Although disappointed, Real Madrid fans can certainly understand the ups and downs of performance that have occurred, I think if it weren't for Ancelotti, Real Madrid might have slumped even worse when faced with the injury storm yesterday.

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When Real Madrid was having a difficult start to the season, many people were of the opinion that it'll take too long for them yo bouce back to their best again but personally, I had a different view and that's because of the records of the club manager. In recent weeks, we can attest to the fact that Real Madrid is performing exceptionally again and that's why I also think they'll surely reach the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition even when I know they're currently not in a good position now.
Against all odds, I will always trust Carlo Ancelotti to always deliver and I'm happy he's doing that at the moment
I also have confidence that Madrid can qualify for the next round. especially if you look at their opponents in the remaining 2 matches. I don't think they will be as strong as the 6 teams they have played before.
maybe most fans are starting to be dissatisfied with the team's performance. but we will see how Madrid will rise. they are a UCL giant and it will not be easy to get rid of them.

I also don't think that Real Madrid will face any major obstacles in their path to qualify for the next round. I think Real Madrid is in very good form at the moment. Real Madrid also performed well against Sevilla in the last match of La Liga. Mbappe is trying to adapt quickly to the Madrid squad. We are also getting quite consistent performances from Mbappe now.

Real Madrid will play against Salzburg in their next match of the Champions League. This team is one of the weakest teams in the Champions League. Salzburg is at the bottom of the points table in the Champions League. I don't see any possibility of Real Madrid losing points in this match. Usually Real Madrid can perform well against weak defenses. It will be a bit difficult for Real Madrid to win against Brest in the last match. However, Madrid is a very experienced team. Madrid has a high chance of winning against Brest as well.

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It is very clear that after Klopp left, many people lowered their hopes for Liverpool this season. Because everyone doesn't really know slots either. Apart from his achievements at Feyenoord, which are actually quite extraordinary. But it turns out that Slot has indeed succeeded in bringing something surprising to Liverpool. He brought Feyenoord into a strong team before going to Liverpool. And now he is also able to keep Liverpool's strength strong after being left by Klopp. And even some improvements occurred in this team after being coached by Slot.

And what amazes me is that he was even able to prevent Liverpool from losing so far in the UCL. Even though the opponents Liverpool faced in the UCL were actually not weak opponents but a collection of strong teams such as Real Madrid, Leverkusen and Girona. And Liverpool was able to overcome all of this in an extraordinary way. Slot now only needs to maintain the team's current performance. And if he can maintain it then the championship title will definitely await this team.

This was mostly a concern about track record and what Klopp has achieved was amazing. He brought Liverpool up to the strongest competitor for a Manchester City that was almost unbeatable and Klopp has a PPG average of a bit more than 2.1. That brings him to averaging 80 points per season and it should not be forgotten that when he got started in Liverpool, the team was not among the best anymore. Guardiola had a financial advantage as well. I am not claiming that Liverpool was poor at the time, but Klopp had to develop more of younger talents or rather undiscovered players while Guardiola whichever player he wanted.

Klopp has proven to be a real team developer in Dortmund and that is why Liverpool wanted him and he delivered so well.

They then had a worse season I think during COVID times, but except for that the competitive level between Manchester City and Liverpool was unbelievable and a joy.

Now there are two things that nobody anticipated and that is that Slot is doing much better while Guardiola is doing much worse. It is still not over though and while it looks dark at the moment, two losses for Liverpool and two wins for Manchester City would make it look less dark.
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It has been adjusted and maybe there is a consideration where there is such a long break, because the schedule is tight and it is also approaching the end of the year. Indeed, I also feel the same way where there is a long break and that makes us have to be more patient waiting until the next match. If we use the old format, then actually we already know which teams will qualify for the next round, but with the new format we have 2 more matches and there is even a play-off match to compete for the last 16 from 16 teams in the standings from position 9 to position 24.
Even though there are still two matches for each team to determine their chances of qualifying automatically, I don't think the standings will change much. Several teams such as Liverpool, Barcelona, ​​Arsenal and several others have been considered to automatically qualify for the round of 16, while other teams in the playoff zone have to work hard to win the same ticket.

We know which team can be the favorite at this stage and which team has the best chance of winning the ticket, but nothing is certain because each of these teams will do the best job possible in hopes of getting to the round of 16. The top team can lose, while the bottom team can win, this is not impossible.

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December 23, 2024, 06:54:01 PM
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I'm curious about why there is such a big time gap between Round 6 and Round 7.  Huh  Next games are starting by January 21. I don't remember such a big interval during the group stage in the old format honestly. This kind of a break was only given during the time between the end of the group stage and last 16 phase. I miss the games already.
For us as spectators or football fans, of course such a long break is very annoying. But for the team and coach, of course this long break is very good, even with this new format, aren't many coaches complaining about the tight schedule?

But whatever the reason for this long break, of course it's because it's the end of the year and it's already the holiday season. This may be the policy of all parties, except for the EPL which doesn't recognize holidays.

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The points are still really close in most parts of the standings. Balances can change very easily to determine top 8 qualifiers and teams joining playoffs. I'm wondering what Real Madrid, Manchester City and especially PSG will do.  Smiley
Yes, everyone must be curious about the teams that will qualify for the last 16 or the teams that qualify for the play-offs. Moreover, there are big teams that are even favorites but are still not safe in the remaining two matches. However, if you look at the current performance improvement, I predict that Real Madrid will qualify with PSG, while Man City will fail to advance to the next round because their confidence has decreased, both coaches and players, just look at them continuing to lose and that will definitely have an impact on the remaining two matches, especially since they will also face a tough match against PSG.

 
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We know which team can be the favorite at this stage and which team has the best chance of winning the ticket, but nothing is certain because each of these teams will do the best job possible in hopes of getting to the round of 16. The top team can lose, while the bottom team can win, this is not impossible.

The playoffs has made the champions league group stage to become very interesting as teams has tried all their best to win automatic tickets to the round of 16. The teams that'll play the playoffs will make that stage also very interesting as they'll be trying their best to win so they can keep playing in the champions league. We're not yet in the playoff stage as we still have two games left and some teams winning the remaining two games will make them to get automatic tickets to the round of 16. Liverpool has already qualified and are just playing the remaining games to fulfill the obligation of playing the full games as they'll still be qualifying regardless of the results.

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December 23, 2024, 07:47:42 PM
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 Several teams such as Liverpool, Barcelona, ​​Arsenal and several others have been considered to automatically qualify for the round of 16, while other teams in the playoff zone have to work hard to win the same ticket.

We know which team can be the favorite at this stage and which team has the best chance of winning the ticket, but nothing is certain because each of these teams will do the best job possible in hopes of getting to the round of 16. The top team can lose, while the bottom team can win, this is not impossible.
I also do not think anything  will change much for those that already qualified for the round of 16, there's  still a chance for those on class one playoffs( Likes of Dortmund& Bayern) to still overtake LOSC or Brest
If the game goes in favour for  them and vice versa for the other teams .

Thus, for the second class aswell... it holds same just as you've said  the top team can loose while the bottom  wins , which means both sides will have to fight for their survival although one is on a more safer side than  the other but any mistake they drop and that's if the bottom wins their next game

 
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The schedule for the 7th match of the Champions League is still a long time to wait, but many of us have started predicting the results now. There are no big matches apart from Manchester City vs PSG, but there are many matches whose results may be difficult to predict. The match between Atletico Madrid vs Leverkusen is one of them, but we know who will really be the favorite.

Atletico Madrid's performance in their last 3 matches in the Champions League has been perfect, but Leverkusen also has strength and good results. Leverkusen and Atletico Madrid are in good form, so it is a bit difficult to guess the final score. Even if one of them wins, then this is not a match with more than 3 goals in my opinion.

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December 23, 2024, 08:22:16 PM
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When Real Madrid was having a difficult start to the season, many people were of the opinion that it'll take too long for them yo bouce back to their best again but personally, I had a different view and that's because of the records of the club manager. In recent weeks, we can attest to the fact that Real Madrid is performing exceptionally again and that's why I also think they'll surely reach the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition even when I know they're currently not in a good position now.
Against all odds, I will always trust Carlo Ancelotti to always deliver and I'm happy he's doing that at the moment
I also have confidence that Madrid can qualify for the next round. especially if you look at their opponents in the remaining 2 matches. I don't think they will be as strong as the 6 teams they have played before.
maybe most fans are starting to be dissatisfied with the team's performance. but we will see how Madrid will rise. they are a UCL giant and it will not be easy to get rid of them.

Since the competition began, I have no doubt that Real Madrid will qualify, despite their dismal record in the Champions League. They will qualify after playing their remaining games; I am confident they will do all necessary to win all of their remaining games and advance to the next round of the Champions League. And Ancelotti has said they will qualify to the final in the ucl, so I am really sure that Madrid has come back to their true form because what they played in the last game was very impressive and they will do anything possible to achieve the ucl again. Ancelotti will like to win for the last time before he leaves the team because I think he will not retire in Real Madrid he can probably leave the club if he as won it back to back and the laliga tittle. Let see how the group stages will end and see who will qualify to next rounds of ucl after the remaining matches in the ucl competition.

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