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June 13, 2024, 10:18:16 PM
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Alot of the sentiment on this thread over the last few days have been largely centered on Madrid winning the title for the second time in a row. As much as they're the true kings of the tournament and are in a really great place right now where they can perform and compete with any team right now, I'm not 100% certain that they can win it yet. A lot of twists and turns are gonna be there and like all football games, the best teams don't always win and I can see that happening with Madrid. There are teams that could still handle them well in the UCL.

My options are still open even though my default, biased choice is going to be Liverpool.

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June 13, 2024, 10:34:20 PM
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The current Real Madrid squad is not bad, all the players are in their best form, the arrival of Mbappe makes this Los Blancos squad even stronger as others say, I believe the game statistics have improved again.
Of course they will be much more stronger when Mbappe joins up with them but the only problem i see is how Ancellotti will manage the team with Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodrygo, will they all start? Or will he still stick to his usual 442 formation with Bellingham playing as a false 9? Because he’s already got a midfield of Tcheomeni, Camavinga and Valverde and also Bellingham. If Endric also joins up with the team it will be very difficult to manage them all.

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The last few seasons Real Madrid's player purchases have never failed, maybe what failed was the purchase of Eden Hazard in the past but now they are investing more in young players who have talent and in the future will have high market value.
It’s similar to what Chelsea is doing signing young players and giving them long contracts because they know they are the future. I like the scouting department of Real Madrid, they know what they want and they always go for the best that what have kept them ahead of every other team in the world. All players they have signed so far always suits their style of play perfectly.

It’s good for Real Madrid as it is also good for PSG because they’ll save a lot in some returns they’re suppose to give to him if he had stayed for another season. This was the best time for the move and the two clubs I think are okay with it.
It’s good deal for Real Madrid but i can’t say the same for PSG because all what they have invested in him seem to have wasted. He was paid huge amount for wages and was not signed for free and all these years the only benefit they have had was winning the Ligue 1 title which they would eventually win even without Mbappe. They also might have benefited from his jersey sales but other than that i don’t see what else they benefited.

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June 13, 2024, 10:42:30 PM
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I know with the way Real Madrid enjoyed Ancelotti performance, they don't want to leave him now or anytime soon until they sight a more impressive manager as time goes on. Maybe from next season, they will scout for another manager. Winning the UCL as well as the La Liga was a great winning streak for Real Madrid and it showed their prowess in this season and I'm most convinced that they want to do more next season.
Leaving Ancelotti is something real Madrid may not want to do at this time but just like Liverpool, a time will come when even the team can't help it but to let him go probably for purposes of resting, retiring or on health grounds, either way they are definitely going to have a point where he will leave the team and the team will get to capitalize on his legacy hence look for a replacement for him. Like you did mentioned, if they start scouting for a replacement now it will be a gree idea a d I'm very sure even if they start so early, they are still going to find it really difficult to get a perfect replacement.

A manager that will get them to win the UCL and la Liga at the same time with much ease, is someone Madrid will definitely find difficult to get because such a manager must be very experienced and on a very different level of performance than other coaches who handle other teams, he must have a really different mentality that is geared towards winning mostly and not just to head the team a d having to settle for less, Madrid typical suffered only one loss this season in the la Liga and another two in the champions league this season too.

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June 13, 2024, 10:46:49 PM
 #544

Alot of the sentiment on this thread over the last few days have been largely centered on Madrid winning the title for the second time in a row. As much as they're the true kings of the tournament and are in a really great place right now where they can perform and compete with any team right now, I'm not 100% certain that they can win it yet. A lot of twists and turns are gonna be there and like all football games, the best teams don't always win and I can see that happening with Madrid. There are teams that could still handle them well in the UCL.

My options are still open even though my default, biased choice is going to be Liverpool.
Really? Liverpool is your choice on this ? I don't know if you missed the part that they are actually trying to switch their manager and we all know the effect that normally holds in a club and for the case of Liverpool I just hope it's positive rather than negative because jorgen kloop is actually a really good coach and I find it hard to believe that someone would easily just implement or even do better than what he has done in Liverpool.

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June 13, 2024, 10:52:15 PM
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Alot of the sentiment on this thread over the last few days have been largely centered on Madrid winning the title for the second time in a row. As much as they're the true kings of the tournament and are in a really great place right now where they can perform and compete with any team right now, I'm not 100% certain that they can win it yet. A lot of twists and turns are gonna be there and like all football games, the best teams don't always win and I can see that happening with Madrid. There are teams that could still handle them well in the UCL.

My options are still open even though my default, biased choice is going to be Liverpool.
Real Madrid did not win the league in a row. Before this there current wining Manchester City were the winner and they were also one of the strongest competitor in the UCL semi finals stage. I still believe they are the strongest team in the world. If they still retain tis squad and include. Mbape they are almost concluding deals on then they will win the league again and again.

Liverpool current squad are no match to Madrid unless there are more threat added to the team that i do not know. If you would mention a team that can hold the defense of Madrid you should be talking about Arsenal.

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June 13, 2024, 11:12:39 PM
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Leaving Ancelotti is something real Madrid may not want to do at this time but just like Liverpool, a time will come when even the team can't help it but to let him go probably for purposes of resting, retiring or on health grounds, either way they are definitely going to have a point where he will leave the team and the team will get to capitalize on his legacy hence look for a replacement for him. Like you did mentioned, if they start scouting for a replacement now it will be a gree idea a d I'm very sure even if they start so early, they are still going to find it really difficult to get a perfect replacement.

A manager that will get them to win the UCL and la Liga at the same time with much ease, is someone Madrid will definitely find difficult to get because such a manager must be very experienced and on a very different level of performance than other coaches who handle other teams, he must have a really different mentality that is geared towards winning mostly and not just to head the team a d having to settle for less, Madrid typical suffered only one loss this season in the la Liga and another two in the champions league this season too.

I don’t think we are that far away from Ancelloti departure from Real Madrid, last summer there were concrete rumors that he was set to leave for the Brazil National team with which he also hinted that it wouldn’t be bad to go there and manage the selecaó. Perez did a U-turn and offered him a new contract extension although what I noticed was that it wasn’t for a very long term with three years at most added (included an option to extend). This to me speaks that Real Madrid aren’t at the moment planning anything way too long like other clubs commit with a Manager with an Ancelloti. Looking at this I think once the gaffer contract expires he might be leaving to Brazil.

The manager that comes to mind to replace Ancelloti at the moment in my opinion is Xabi Alonso. He definitely lacks the experience that Ancelloti has but his Aura will pave way for him to become the next Real Madrid manager. Something even tells me his rejection of offers from Bayern Munich and Liverpool this season and to prolong his stay with the Bundesliga club is as just to wait more for Real Madrid. It’s a huge risk but to me a good one, if he gets a stellar season like last season then he will be the favourite to take it. My other wild card will be the return of Zidane

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June 13, 2024, 11:40:50 PM
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In history of UEFA C1/ Champions League, there are very few clubs which could win three titles in three consecutive seasons or within several years so to catch Real Madrid's record, Manchester City will spend a long time to get it. They can win some titles but Real Madrid will be able to win more Champions League titles in future too.
Bayern Munich and Ajax can win the 3 titles in a row, too. But only Real Madrid who could win 5 titles in a row (1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960). This record is unlikely to be repeated by other teams because it will be very difficult to win UCL in 5 consecutive seasons. That's why many people claim that UCL is Real Madrid league, Real Madrid is too dominating this competition.  Cheesy

Last two decades, Barcelona had some dominating seasons with their golden generation with Messi is a core player but they did not maintain it and they are still far to catch Real Madrid. It's explainable for all clubs as players come and go, start as young players, grow up, succeed, get old and retire. Success for one club can not be from only one generation of players but must be maintained with different generations and Real Madrid do it best so far.
Even the golden generation of Messi can't dominate UCL. They are defeated by Ronaldo era that was managed by Zidane. Barcelona may dominate La Liga in the era of Messi, but they never can dominate UCL. Real Madrid is surely in another level when it is about UCL. I think people call Real Madrid as the king of UCL is understandable. Sure, no team looks to catch the record of Real Madrid in UCL.



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June 13, 2024, 11:44:23 PM
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Alot of the sentiment on this thread over the last few days have been largely centered on Madrid winning the title for the second time in a row. As much as they're the true kings of the tournament and are in a really great place right now where they can perform and compete with any team right now, I'm not 100% certain that they can win it yet. A lot of twists and turns are gonna be there and like all football games, the best teams don't always win and I can see that happening with Madrid. There are teams that could still handle them well in the UCL.

My options are still open even though my default, biased choice is going to be Liverpool.
Really? Liverpool is your choice on this ? I don't know if you missed the part that they are actually trying to switch their manager and we all know the effect that normally holds in a club and for the case of Liverpool I just hope it's positive rather than negative because jorgen kloop is actually a really good coach and I find it hard to believe that someone would easily just implement or even do better than what he has done in Liverpool.

A change in the Liverpool team would be good, but such an experienced coach should not be changed.  Although the performance of Liverpool team players has been very poor at present, as I have placed two bets on Liverpool team in the last month or so I have lost there. So I will definitely talk about their performance but it will be best if they change and the team can perform stronger.

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June 13, 2024, 11:57:29 PM
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Alot of the sentiment on this thread over the last few days have been largely centered on Madrid winning the title for the second time in a row. As much as they're the true kings of the tournament and are in a really great place right now where they can perform and compete with any team right now, I'm not 100% certain that they can win it yet. A lot of twists and turns are gonna be there and like all football games, the best teams don't always win and I can see that happening with Madrid. There are teams that could still handle them well in the UCL.

My options are still open even though my default, biased choice is going to be Liverpool.
Really? Liverpool is your choice on this ? I don't know if you missed the part that they are actually trying to switch their manager and we all know the effect that normally holds in a club and for the case of Liverpool I just hope it's positive rather than negative because jorgen kloop is actually a really good coach and I find it hard to believe that someone would easily just implement or even do better than what he has done in Liverpool.

A change in the Liverpool team would be good, but such an experienced coach should not be changed.  Although the performance of Liverpool team players has been very poor at present, as I have placed two bets on Liverpool team in the last month or so I have lost there. So I will definitely talk about their performance but it will be best if they change and the team can perform stronger.

Well I don't actually know where you driving at but Liverpool has never been a team just that they heard some set backs as the league was drawing close to an end but of which they actually bounced back but that isn't the center of focus for now, what is being talked about is the effect of them actually having their current coach jorgen kloop leaving the club and this is reason why am being skeptical about @nelson actually giving Liverpool a better hand in stoping the likes of Madrid this coming champions league.

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June 14, 2024, 02:40:25 AM
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Bayern Munich and Ajax can win the 3 titles in a row, too. But only Real Madrid who could win 5 titles in a row (1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960). This record is unlikely to be repeated by other teams because it will be very difficult to win UCL in 5 consecutive seasons. That's why many people claim that UCL is Real Madrid league, Real Madrid is too dominating this competition.  Cheesy
Bayern Munich, Ajax Amsterdam, Real Madrid and Liverpool are teams that have some dominating seasons in the past but I did not implied about these seasons. It's too far in the past and European football last two or three decades are very different than in 1970s, 1980s and before that.

Since the change from C1 to Champions League, only Real Madrid successfully defend their Champions League title, and this fact shows how hard to become a Champions League winner last three decades.

Even the golden generation of Messi can't dominate UCL. They are defeated by Ronaldo era that was managed by Zidane. Barcelona may dominate La Liga in the era of Messi, but they never can dominate UCL. Real Madrid is surely in another level when it is about UCL. I think people call Real Madrid as the king of UCL is understandable. Sure, no team looks to catch the record of Real Madrid in UCL
It's true so and three consecutive Champions League titles of Real Madrid with Zidane as a head coach, is very magnificent achievement for their club and it's an impressive club performance in Champions League history too.

Manchester City failed to defend their title in the recently completed season too and this again shows very high competitiveness of Champions League. It's hard to win it but it's even much harder to defend your title.

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With the new UCL format, there will be more matches there will be an additional 64 matches with a total of 189 matches. Some positive opinions are that there will be more clubs that can participate. The more interesting the competition, the more spectators will also watch the match. This means that club ticket revenue will increase.

But with this condition, of course, the club has to work harder. They will go through many matches that make them can get injured. The team seems to have to prepare a good strategy to be able to compete in the League and Europe. It is possible that the increase in the number of players registered can be considered by UEFA.

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June 14, 2024, 03:04:38 AM
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Alot of the sentiment on this thread over the last few days have been largely centered on Madrid winning the title for the second time in a row. As much as they're the true kings of the tournament and are in a really great place right now where they can perform and compete with any team right now, I'm not 100% certain that they can win it yet. A lot of twists and turns are gonna be there and like all football games, the best teams don't always win and I can see that happening with Madrid. There are teams that could still handle them well in the UCL.

My options are still open even though my default, biased choice is going to be Liverpool.
Real Madrid did not win the league in a row. Before this there current wining Manchester City were the winner and they were also one of the strongest competitor in the UCL semi finals stage. I still believe they are the strongest team in the world. If they still retain tis squad and include. Mbape they are almost concluding deals on then they will win the league again and again.

Liverpool current squad are no match to Madrid unless there are more threat added to the team that i do not know. If you would mention a team that can hold the defense of Madrid you should be talking about Arsenal.

Despite not winning back-to-back matches, Real Madrid are a team and they are the team with the most trophies in the Champions League. Although we have seen that Manchester City were champions last season but this season they did not make it to the finals instead they had to leave early. Of course Real Madrid are the stronger team as Mbappe has added better players to their squad but they will be more competitive next season. With Real Madrid signing Mbappe and having enough stars in the Madrid team, the team will have a chance to win back-to-back matches from next season.

Although we have seen Liverpool's game with Real Madrid not have to give every day but they are not able to bring a very strong player in their team now. If they can't bring good stars to Liverpool, then the match with Real Madrid will be a threat, moreover, Arsenal and Real Madrid will not be able to cope. Currently we can identify Real Madrid as the strongest team where the stars are factory, however we can call for Real Madrid to be champions again for next season.

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June 14, 2024, 03:09:21 AM
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With the new UCL format, there will be more matches there will be an additional 64 matches with a total of 189 matches. Some positive opinions are that there will be more clubs that can participate. The more interesting the competition, the more spectators will also watch the match. This means that club ticket revenue will increase.

But with this condition, of course, the club has to work harder. They will go through many matches that make them can get injured. The team seems to have to prepare a good strategy to be able to compete in the League and Europe. It is possible that the increase in the number of players registered can be considered by UEFA.

The increase in UCL participants means nothing to Madrid. It is about quantity, not quality. The number of teams participating in the UCL will not boost the quality from the participants, right? I am still convinced Real Madrid is still winning the competition.
Despite the fact that there would be so many participants competing for UCL. Real Madrid is the most favorite club to win the competition. I am not doubting it. There is an additional slot for the Serie A and Bundesliga.

This will not affect the fact that a weak club finishing in fifth place will have a chance to participate in the UCL. This will not have a significant impact on the result as the winner will be dermined by the quality of clubs. I remember some leagues sent a lot of candidates last season but real madrid was winning the competition.

I'm focusing on quality over quantity. The only best from the best can win the UCL, and Madrid is my favorite club to win it again.

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June 14, 2024, 05:28:25 AM
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The increase in UCL participants means nothing to Madrid. It is about quantity, not quality. The number of teams participating in the UCL will not boost the quality from the participants, right? I am still convinced Real Madrid is still winning the competition.
It will create more opportunities to smaller leagues and smaller clubs but the ultimate beneficial entity is UEFA. They will receive a lot of more income from a bigger Champions League with more matches and more television rights from more countries.

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Despite the fact that there would be so many participants competing for UCL. Real Madrid is the most favorite club to win the competition. I am not doubting it.
Real Madrid and other big clubs will receive more money too but they will have to cope with another challenge, more matches mean more risk of body exhaustion and injuries on their star players. In very last months of each season, their star players will have bigger risk of injuries and miss most important matches in a season. This potentially causes some big problems with clubs that unluckily get some player injuries.

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There is an additional slot for the Serie A and Bundesliga.

This will not affect the fact that a weak club finishing in fifth place will have a chance to participate in the UCL. This will not have a significant impact on the result as the winner will be dermined by the quality of clubs. I remember some leagues sent a lot of candidates last season but real madrid was winning the competition.
Additional slots for two best leagues are good enough because these clubs have good quality too. In Premier League, if Chelsea or Liverpool miss Champions League, it's bad for them and for Champions League too. If Premier League completes a season as one of two best leagues, a strong club that ends the league will be able to join Champions League next season.

It is good if the fifth club has good performances but if the fifth club has many problems like Manchester United, their appearance in Champions League with that special extra slot won't help to increase quality of Champions League.

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I'm focusing on quality over quantity. The only best from the best can win the UCL, and Madrid is my favorite club to win it again.
very simple and also very meaningful.
logically, the quality of the team or more precisely the quality of the players is one of the main roles for the team that will win the UCL title and this only exists in a few big teams that already have experience of getting the UCL title, such as Madrid, Man City, Munich and other teams that have already won the UCL title experience.
but Madrid will be a priority in the UCL every season because in terms of player quality, almost all the players are very experienced and have extraordinary talent and also Madrid has the most achievements in the UCL, so even though there will be many teams entering the UCL zone, Madrid will not have it easy defeated because this team is one of the strongest teams in the UCL without exception.

for me, the addition of UCL participants will not affect the competition for big teams like Madrid because small teams that have just entered the UCL list only need experience and try their luck to get good results, but that doesn't mean they can beat Madrid and for me as a Madrid fan fully supports your opinion regarding the addition of UCL participant slots, which will only provide a new experience for Madrid to meet other small teams.

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Alot of the sentiment on this thread over the last few days have been largely centered on Madrid winning the title for the second time in a row. As much as they're the true kings of the tournament and are in a really great place right now where they can perform and compete with any team right now, I'm not 100% certain that they can win it yet. A lot of twists and turns are gonna be there and like all football games, the best teams don't always win and I can see that happening with Madrid. There are teams that could still handle them well in the UCL.

My options are still open even though my default, biased choice is going to be Liverpool.
To say 100% that Real Madrid will win the Champions League next season, I'm not that sure either. However, here we can only see that their percentage of winning the Champions League title again is very high compared to other teams. I think this is a very normal thing, with the status of defending champions and the addition of their strength, one of which is by successfully bringing in Mbappe in the season.
If you calculate the percentage, last season Manchester City was the team with the highest percentage, but in fact they also failed because Real Madrid managed to beat them. Real Madrid overtook them in percentage terms and managed to become champions.
This could happen next season, even though Real Madrid may be the team holding the highest percentage, but that doesn't mean they can automatically become champions.

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June 14, 2024, 07:45:11 AM
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I'm focusing on quality over quantity. The only best from the best can win the UCL, and Madrid is my favorite club to win it again.
very simple and also very meaningful.
logically, the quality of the team or more precisely the quality of the players is one of the main roles for the team that will win the UCL title and this only exists in a few big teams that already have experience of getting the UCL title, such as Madrid, Man City, Munich and other teams that have already won the UCL title experience.
but Madrid will be a priority in the UCL every season because in terms of player quality, almost all the players are very experienced and have extraordinary talent and also Madrid has the most achievements in the UCL, so even though there will be many teams entering the UCL zone, Madrid will not have it easy defeated because this team is one of the strongest teams in the UCL without exception.

for me, the addition of UCL participants will not affect the competition for big teams like Madrid because small teams that have just entered the UCL list only need experience and try their luck to get good results, but that doesn't mean they can beat Madrid and for me as a Madrid fan fully supports your opinion regarding the addition of UCL participant slots, which will only provide a new experience for Madrid to meet other small teams.

Yes, I agree with your sentiment about this, the chances of real madrid winning next year uefa champions league is still very high, because in as much as they are very good now, they are still adding more quality players in their ranks, and the addition of Kyler mbape in this real Madrid team will definitely makes them the team to beat, and probably the most strongest team next season.

Though Manchester city are still there, we all know how good they are when they are in their full flow, and I actually believe that they are the only team that has the capacity to put a stop to the dominance of real madrid, because they also possesses quality and experience in their ranks the way real madrid is, so next season competition will definitely going to be fascinating to we the football faithful.

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June 14, 2024, 09:13:08 AM
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Alot of the sentiment on this thread over the last few days have been largely centered on Madrid winning the title for the second time in a row. As much as they're the true kings of the tournament and are in a really great place right now where they can perform and compete with any team right now, I'm not 100% certain that they can win it yet. A lot of twists and turns are gonna be there and like all football games, the best teams don't always win and I can see that happening with Madrid. There are teams that could still handle them well in the UCL.

My options are still open even though my default, biased choice is going to be Liverpool.
Real Madrid is the king of the UEFA Champions League competition because they have won the trophy more than any other club in the European leagues. So it is normal if the discussion here is centered on Real Madrid winning the UEFA Champions League trophy for the second time in a row. With Mbappe joining Real Madrid on a free transfer, football fans believe that Real Madrid is unstoppable, and that is another reason why they see Real Madrid as a club that will still retain the UEFA Champions League trophy. Since Liverpool has signed a new head coach, we have to wait and see how the new coach will perform at Liverpool before we can be certain that they can rival Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League competition. For me, I see Manchester City as the most qualified club to beat Real Madrid anywhere because Manchester City also has a squad that can match Real Madrid's shoulder-to-shoulder if they meet in the UEFA Champions League competition.

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June 14, 2024, 10:06:21 AM
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I don’t like the new version of the group stage, to be debuted in the 24/25 season but it is what it is. After missing out on the CL last season I am looking forward to seeing Liverpool back where we belong.

It’s very much unknown territory with Slot but I guess you never know what can happen, it doesn’t cost anything to dream.

I don’t like the group stage either, you could say that they combined the old group stage with the last qualifying round and it turned out to be such a mess. But if you look at the essence of the competition, then everything still starts at the playoff stage and here everything remains as before. And yet I hope that spectator interest in the group stage will wane and the old format will be returned.

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Any idea how Leverkusen is going to perform in the Champions League competition? 

I actually want to see Leverkusen from well in the Champions League competition. For some reason, I also want to see a final between Real Madrid and Leverkusen. I think because I want to see how great coaches, Alonso and Ancelotti does against each other. I understand that this is not a good comparison and probably there is a very high chance that Real Madrid is actually going to win very easily. Because of the track record that they have in the Champions League. But it will still be something to watch. The expectation is really high from Leverkusen. I hope they will be able to deliver properly on that.
 

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