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August 04, 2024, 05:59:59 PM
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Real Madrid and Man City are always the candidates to win UCL. Real Madrid looks like having stronger squad, they have Mbappe now. Meanwhile Man City may try to win UCL and give the trophy for the farewell with Guardiola. Let's see which team to reach the final and win the trophy of UCL this season. I personally expect Real Madrid to win again UCL trophy, it will be the first UCL trophy for Mbappe.  Grin

The funny thing about the Champions League is that it's always won by one of the big teams. The winner might not be among the favourites but they are always a big team. Even when a new team wins it for the first time, they don't usually win it on their first try. They would need to have built their team over the years and be among the best teams in Europe.
When Chelsea won it for the first time they have already been regulars in Europe and even lost a final to Manchester United. Same thing for Manchester City. This shows that the Champions League is truly a league for the big boys, an underdog rarely wins it.
So when you mention teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid as favourites, you're very right because they might become the winner.

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August 04, 2024, 06:02:26 PM
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Real Madrid and Man City are always the candidates to win UCL. Real Madrid looks like having stronger squad, they have Mbappe now. Meanwhile Man City may try to win UCL and give the trophy for the farewell with Guardiola. Let's see which team to reach the final and win the trophy of UCL this season. I personally expect Real Madrid to win again UCL trophy, it will be the first UCL trophy for Mbappe.  Grin


It's fantastic that so many people believe in Luis Enrique. He is an excellent coach with experience. PSG's Champions League history is not very good, though. Sure, they have a team of stars, but that hasn't been sufficient to get them over the hill. Though it can't buy you tactical knowledge or chemistry, money can buy you ability. Losing a talent like Mbappe is devastating, and it emphasizes the need of wise, strategic acquisitions. It's about finding the correct bits to finish the puzzle, not only about stuffing additional stars into the picture. Players who can carry out Luis Enrique's vision, adapt to various circumstances, and manage the pressure of the Champions League will be much sought for. Though it will be difficult, if someone can accomplish it it is Luis Enrique. Let us thus examine what he has planned.

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August 04, 2024, 06:27:01 PM
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Luis Enrique is a winner manager. Therefore I understand people who are believing in him. He won the Champions League title with Barcelona in the past you know.  Wink

However he has a really tough job to do now. He isn't managing prime Barcelona anymore. PSG also has really talented players of course but they are still not ready enough to go for the title in this tournament. As of Mbappe's departure, we don't know how they will perform in the Champions League yet. I don't want to mean like they will be worse of course. Because it is all about having a good team play. Then not having Mbappe won't matter that much.  Smiley

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August 04, 2024, 06:56:05 PM
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Kane really deserves a trophy a least because it will be bad after all his goal scoring record then he is unable to win a trophy, he has just proven his scoring ability for Bayern Munich same way he did while at Tottenham but for me if he is not able to win a trophy at Bayern this season he should consider joining other top European clubs like Manchester City, Juventus or PSG so that he can have a chance of winning a title. I just felt for the England striker because he is one player that gives his all for his team even in the just concluded UERO competition, he made a lot of impact and scored goals as well but still not able to win the tournament even after they made it to the finals.
             Vincent Kompany knows that Bayern Munich is a big team so he is already feeling the pressure and fear if he don't make things right for the club because Bayern Munich may not give him a second chance if he is not able to prove himself in the upcoming season so I understand the kind of situation he is facing now that is the reason why I was suggesting that he would have still maintained coaching lower clubs and achieve a recognized level of success before making attempts to Coach a team like Bayern Munich. The team is not in the right position to be tipped to win the UCL so I don't see any magic happening for Bayern Munich.

Man, I feel very bad for Kane. He definitely is one of the best strikers this generation has seen, and it's not on him that he hasn't won a trophy yet. He goes so close every time, innit?

I think this season will be one to watch for him. If the team does not show him good promise, he should look for a better move. Because Bayern management right now looks under pressure, they got Tuchel, sacked him, and now had to settle for Kompany. Who knows, maybe they can turn around from here. Maybe Kompany is not experienced on paper, but I think he will prove a lot of people wrong. Very interesting things to unfold.

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August 04, 2024, 06:57:59 PM
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There is no meaning in criticizing Harry Kane. It is even ridiculous.  Grin  What can he do more than this? He is scoring tons of goals every season. Even in his first season with Bayern Munich, he scored 44 goals and made 12 assists in 45 matches.

He is doing what a striker should do exactly. He is even doing more than that as this is a way extra performance. He is unlucky about team successes unfortunately. He even ran into a time in which Bayern Munich's long title series in the Bundesliga to be broken. I believe he will start achieving titles soon anyway. Maybe it might not happen in the Champions League but domestic titles would be claimed by his team. We are talking about the biggest team in Germany.  Smiley
It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him

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August 04, 2024, 07:30:01 PM
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It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him

The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.

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August 04, 2024, 08:13:39 PM
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It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him

The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.

I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it

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August 04, 2024, 08:20:16 PM
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It is simply pure stupidity to criticize Harry Kane for not securing championships at Bayern Munich. In 45 games, the guy scored 44 goals and had 12 assists. That is insane! Soccer is about the whole team; it is not a one-man exhibition. If the rest of the team isn't clicking, Kane cannot win the trophy by himself. And it's the team that didn't prepare it properly

Not solely Kane's responsibility; Bayern Munich has lately experienced some problems. The team has to decide on its tatics and approach as well as maybe bring in a fresh manager. One could find the solution in Vincent Kompany. He is an excellent coach; he may be the one to enable Bayern Munich to once more be glorious

Let's be nice to Kane. He is performing at world class and is doing all he can. It is the team that has to get moving to help him

The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it
It could be Bayern Munich's mistake last season by Tuchel because the strategy he used was easily guessed by other club games, because since Tuchel entered the new manager it has begun to falter and often loses while Leverkusen is on fire in the hands of Xabi Alonso.

Blaming it entirely on Harry Kane is not true he remains the most contributing player for Bayern Munich with the most goals therefore he still has a chance to lift the trophy next season.

Kompany is also responsible for what he does with his tactics in the current season, however the manager is the one who organizes all the games.

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August 04, 2024, 08:27:58 PM
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It could be Bayern Munich's mistake last season by Tuchel because the strategy he used was easily guessed by other club games, because since Tuchel entered the new manager it has begun to falter and often loses while Leverkusen is on fire in the hands of Xabi Alonso.

Blaming it entirely on Harry Kane is not true he remains the most contributing player for Bayern Munich with the most goals therefore he still has a chance to lift the trophy next season.

Kompany is also responsible for what he does with his tactics in the current season, however the manager is the one who organizes all the games.

Tuchel may have some responsibility for Bayern Munich's defeats, but you cannot put all the blame on the coach, the whole team is at fault, when you win everyone does, when you lose, everyone loses. It's a team game, but of course the one who suffers is always the coach. This year they can take back their revenge against xabi Alonso's Leverkusen, Atalanta showed everyone that they were not invincible when they beat them in the Europa League final

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August 04, 2024, 08:31:58 PM
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I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it
Even though Bayern Munich’s last season Bundesliga performance is not that good, we cannot use that to judge their Champions League expectations for next season because despite having a bad season, they were able to reach the semifinals in the last season’s Champions League which means they also have Champions League experience.

Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, and others including Arsenal looks like teams  to be considered before Bayern Munich in selecting the favorites to win the title especially because Kompany is a new coach who is having his first big team experience at Bayern Munich; while all these teams I mentioned have done very well and have some experience in the tournament as well as in the Champions League. Therefore, I am also counting Bayern out of the Champions League title chase this season.

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August 04, 2024, 08:35:16 PM
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Luis Enrique is a winner manager. Therefore I understand people who are believing in him. He won the Champions League title with Barcelona in the past you know.  Wink

However he has a really tough job to do now. He isn't managing prime Barcelona anymore. PSG also has really talented players of course but they are still not ready enough to go for the title in this tournament. As of Mbappe's departure, we don't know how they will perform in the Champions League yet. I don't want to mean like they will be worse of course. Because it is all about having a good team play. Then not having Mbappe won't matter that much.  Smiley
The main reason why PSG hire Luis Enrique is because they want champion league trophy this because previously he can gets this trophy with Barcelona but some of people are considers Luis Enrique didn't help a lot because even without him Barcelona can able to gets champion league trophy because at that time Barcelona was filled with plenty of world class players such as Iniesta, Xavi and Lionel Messi so if we see based on the composition of the squad Barcelona can get trophies easily whoever the coach is

If we talking about Luis Enrique more i think his debut season with PSG is run well because PSG can able to defend the title of Ligue 1 and gets France Cup trophy and in Champion League PSG performance i think is good because on group phase they can escape from hell group and almost reach to the final match but unfortunately for semifinal match PSG have to lost twice from Dortmund and eliminate

Next season people didn't including PSG as the favourite this because currently they don't have Mbappe who leave to Real Madrid and until now PSG hasn't gets any replacement of this player yet so Luis Enrique have to bought some players immediatelly before summer transfer window closed and next season PSG will face new era without Mbappe and with new format of champion league i would like to see how far they can go in this competition

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August 04, 2024, 08:39:15 PM
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I agree with you, Bayern Munich may not win the Champions League even though they have a really very strong team and are one of the pretenders to the title, but in Germany they have no big rivals, last year they did not win simply because Leverkusen did something extraordinary but this trend will not last forever for them. I am confident that Harry Kane can finally lift a trophy, simply because he deserves it
Even though Bayern Munich’s last season Bundesliga performance is not that good, we cannot use that to judge their Champions League expectations for next season because despite having a bad season, they were able to reach the semifinals in the last season’s Champions League which means they also have Champions League experience.

Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, and others including Arsenal looks like teams  to be considered before Bayern Munich in selecting the favorites to win the title especially because Kompany is a new coach who is having his first big team experience at Bayern Munich; while all these teams I mentioned have done very well and have some experience in the tournament as well as in the Champions League. Therefore, I am also counting Bayern out of the Champions League title chase this season.

I don't know, I wouldn't rule them out a priori in the likely Champions League final victory. Bayern Munich has a very respectable and very strong and competitive team, even the eventual draws could lend a hand in pushing them all the way to the bottom of the competition. Of course having a rookie coach doesn't help much but we don't know exactly what Kompany is made of

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August 04, 2024, 08:44:20 PM
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The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.

Manuel Neuer could not reach his previous performance after his injury. Also, the defensive signings failed to adapt to the team. Kim Min Jae didn't perform as well at Bayern Munich as he did at Napoli. But I think Bayern Munich have been on a downward trend since Robben and Ribery left the team. They need quality players to reach their previous level. And they have a very good squad today. But they don't have the legendary players of the past years. They can win a trophy in the Champions League. They always have a chance. But even in the Bundesliga, they are unlikely to be champions compared to previous years. That's why I think they are also unlikely to be champions in the Champions League.

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The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
Harry Kane is a professional player and he totally understands the guilt he feels each time his team fails to win a trophy. Perhaps we all think when he decided to move to Bayern Munich, we all thought he will lift the bundesliga title in his first season and probably win treble, but reverse was the case. There we have it, the Harry Kane’s curse which have haunted the Englishman for years. Kane have found it extremely difficult to win major titles with his current and former club, it extends to the country, England where he has qualified for Euro finals twice in a row and completely defeated. So sad Harry Kane have to carry this burden.
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It could be Bayern Munich's mistake last season by Tuchel because the strategy he used was easily guessed by other club games, because since Tuchel entered the new manager it has begun to falter and often loses while Leverkusen is on fire in the hands of Xabi Alonso.

Blaming it entirely on Harry Kane is not true he remains the most contributing player for Bayern Munich with the most goals therefore he still has a chance to lift the trophy next season.

Kompany is also responsible for what he does with his tactics in the current season, however the manager is the one who organizes all the games.

Tuchel may have some responsibility for Bayern Munich's defeats, but you cannot put all the blame on the coach, the whole team is at fault, when you win everyone does, when you lose, everyone loses. It's a team game, but of course the one who suffers is always the coach. This year they can take back their revenge against xabi Alonso's Leverkusen, Atalanta showed everyone that they were not invincible when they beat them in the Europa League final
The burden of a coach is heavy because of course there are many demands from many parties, including club management, fans so it is natural that Tuchel is blamed, the proof is that when he failed he was fired and replaced by Vincent Kompany, even if the management is bad it is still the coach who suffers.

Indeed, not all mistakes on the coach sometimes other factors affect it, such as many injured players, this could make it difficult for the coach to carry out a strategy, so he could set another strategy because some players must be absent.

I think, even though the squad problem is injured Bayern Munch should still be able to survive and beat Leverkusen but the proof is that they are not able to do that.

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August 04, 2024, 09:03:38 PM
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The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
Of course, it's not his fault, but what we saw in Bayern Munich's game last season was that they underestimated their opponents so they couldn't compete with Leverkusen. This does not mean that Bayern Munich's failure last season was Harry Kane's fault for failing to become champions, but it was purely the fault of all the players, both coaches and management. Fans have to accept the fact that they won't always be able to win the trophy because other teams also continue to compete by improving the quality of their game as Leverkusen has done.

So for the Champions League, of course Bayern Munich is a team that is quite strong with the depth of their strength. However, the Champions League is not easy to predict because when faced with other strong teams, Bayern Munich failed to win the match, as happened last season when Real Madrid managed to beat Bayern Munich.

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August 04, 2024, 10:15:50 PM
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The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
Of course, it's not his fault, but what we saw in Bayern Munich's game last season was that they underestimated their opponents so they couldn't compete with Leverkusen. This does not mean that Bayern Munich's failure last season was Harry Kane's fault for failing to become champions, but it was purely the fault of all the players, both coaches and management. Fans have to accept the fact that they won't always be able to win the trophy because other teams also continue to compete by improving the quality of their game as Leverkusen has done.

So for the Champions League, of course Bayern Munich is a team that is quite strong with the depth of their strength. However, the Champions League is not easy to predict because when faced with other strong teams, Bayern Munich failed to win the match, as happened last season when Real Madrid managed to beat Bayern Munich.
Why are many blaming Harry Kane for Bayern Munich's failure to win a trophy? Yeah because every club there is he always fails to win trophies, it's not about believing in curses but the facts are like that, but I myself would never blame Kane because he's a great player.

I won't overthink it because Bayern Munich were in decline while Leverkusen were at their peak with Xabi Alonso, even coach Tuchel couldn't catch Leverkusen's points in the Bundesliga, last season they lost their chance and next season they won't let it happen again.

For the Champion League tournament, Bayern Munich is still a big team that is widely favored, but about talking about who the winner will be, it is still difficult to guess, we don't know how Bayern Munich plays in the hands of Vincent Kompany.

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August 04, 2024, 10:58:50 PM
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Why are many blaming Harry Kane for Bayern Munich's failure to win a trophy? Yeah because every club there is he always fails to win trophies, it's not about believing in curses but the facts are like that, but I myself would never blame Kane because he's a great player.
In fact, it was like a curse experienced by Kane throughout his career. Since with Spurs, even though Kane became the biggest scorer player, he had never gotten any title and now after Munich, he also got the same results. But if we think realistically, it is not a curse because Kane has a satisfying appearance on UCL or in the domestic league as we know at this time he is still a very reliable scorer, right?

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I won't overthink it because Bayern Munich were in decline while Leverkusen were at their peak with Xabi Alonso, even coach Tuchel couldn't catch Leverkusen's points in the Bundesliga, last season they lost their chance and next season they won't let it happen again.
Not entirely Tuchel mistake but this is only about the mistakes of the two parties between the defense players and the coach. Look at the last season, Bayern Munich can still score a big score but they are conceded.

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For the Champion League tournament, Bayern Munich is still a big team that is widely favored, but about talking about who the winner will be, it is still difficult to guess, we don't know how Bayern Munich plays in the hands of Vincent Kompany.
It's too early to say about this, but everyone already has their respective opinions even though I do not doubt Bayern Munich but it looks like Real Madrid will return to get the UCL title this season.

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August 04, 2024, 11:07:17 PM
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Tuchel may have some responsibility for Bayern Munich's defeats, but you cannot put all the blame on the coach, the whole team is at fault, when you win everyone does, when you lose, everyone loses. It's a team game, but of course the one who suffers is always the coach. This year they can take back their revenge against xabi Alonso's Leverkusen, Atalanta showed everyone that they were not invincible when they beat them in the Europa League final
Blaming everything on tuchel was never the best thing to do, especially with the fact that he's been in Bayern for just a season, he was yet to get fully in perfect feet with the team but then he was trying to see how well his strategy could get the some good feet's by the end of the season, only to get some poor result but he got some good experience alongside, I'm of the opinion if he had stayed a bit longer, he would have been a threat to xabi Alonsos team.

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August 04, 2024, 11:08:25 PM
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The fact that Bayern didn't win a title is definitely not Kane's fault. As you wrote, he scored a lot of goals and actually did his job well. Bayern Munich had a lot of injured players last season and constantly had problems because of that. I'm sure that they have a very good chance of winning a title this year, at least in the German Bundesliga, but winning the CL will be difficult.
After Harry Kane's incredible debut season for Bayern Munich where he scored a total of 44 goals, I find it funny to see that some people are of the opinion that it was his presence that caused the club's failure to win a trophy last season. As a striker, Harry Kane's major work was to score goals for his club which he perfectly executed that what's required of him so if there's anyone that should be blamed for Bayern Munich's poor campaign, it should be the club's former manager Thomas Tuchel who failed to make good use of the team.
Bayern Munich now have a new manager in Vincent Kompany and I strongly believe he'll improve the team's performance ahead of next season as well as winning at least one major trophy fir the club

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