UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season

[Frankolala]

History is not something new to Real Madrid because they are use to making history. They made history this past season by winning UCL 15 times and they have also won UCL back to back, meaning Real Madrid is history themselves.

The team has a wonderful combination of world class players which are still young and desperate to create records for themselves. The old players in terms of age in Real Madrid are leaving gradually and soon the squad will be of young and vibrant players which will serve the club for a long period of time before they will leave.

It is true that Real Madrid is a top club which of course has won the most UCL titles and of course because Real Madrid is really great at finding players and very smart in choosing talented young players, it is not surprising that now Real Madrid has won 15 times. UCL and of course Real Madrid are the clubs that have won the most UCL titles. and the second club is of course Milan, which has won 7 UCL titles to date and of course when compared, Ac Milan is very different from Real Madrid in terms of income from UCL titles.

Yes, of course Real Madrid can always get a great coach and of course now Real Madrid is also lucky because they have a professional coach, namely Ancelotti and Ancelotti who I remember has succeeded in making Real Madrid become UCL champions 3 times and maybe Ancelotti has great potential to bring Real Madrid won the UCL title for the 4th time.

Yes, the achievements achieved by Real Madrid are certainly extraordinary and it seems that in the future I see that Real Madrid will have the potential to continue to be successful. and of course other clubs will definitely find it difficult to beat Real Madrid. But of course it is not impossible that in the future there will be a club that can beat Real Madrid.

I agree with you, there will be a season that Real Madrid will not win UCL because it is not only them that is the strongest club in UCL, it is just that currently they are the strongest. Time will come when other clubs will definitely win UCL and that has also happened before because if they have lost many UCL competitions but have won more than any other club.

We might see a different club winning UCL next two seasons because a lot of clubs are building their team to a perfect match for Real Madrid which that might not be achieved next season and it is possible next two season.

[Palakka]

History is what they do, if it were the case that all the Champions League trophies they won were long before the present, we might be talking about this team's past history. But when they embark on a new season, that's where they succeed and that's where they make history. Real Madrid alone have won 15 Champions League titles, while all other teams' UCL titles combined may not equal 15 Champions League titles. They have done this in the past, they are doing this consistently now and I believe they will continue to improve in the future.

Real Madrid will still be a title contender again this season in the Champions League if you look at the strength of their current players. And what you say is a fact that cannot be denied by anyone because Real Madrid have indeed proven it consistently in the past and also last season with what they have. And for the coming season it could also be the same where Real Madrid will still be considered a very dangerous rival in the Champions League by other teams because their experience and dedication in the Champions League is already extraordinary.

15 Champions League trophies are Madrid biggest achievement so far and it proves that they have now declared themselves to be the ruling club of Europe, If we look at the current UCL trophy achievements of madrid it might be difficult for other teams to achieve, let alone to beyond with the UCL trophy achievements owned by Madrid, currently Madrid has improved the quality of their squad to become stronger although in fact last season they had a squad that was quite capable and strong enough to compete in the La Liga and Champions League, so I would not doubt if they would also  be able to return dominate La Liga and become the favorite to win the Champions League next season, even without ruling out surprises from other teams will happen in next season.
The closest match to show Madrid true quality is when they face Atlanta in the Uefa Super Cup later, to be honest I am really waiting for that match to be played and see how their performance will have a positive or negative impact after Mbappe arrival now.

[bitgolden]

Just like i said before Lille is not weak opponent for Fenerbahce and it just happend now that Fenerbahce have to lost dramatically from Lille because the goal from Zhegrova on extra time make Fenerbahce failed to stole point from at Lille home ground and Mourinho confirmed that Fenerbahce indeed is not playing as his expected

I am sure for second leg Fenerbahce will attempts to playing more attacking than the first leg but indeed Mourinho seems have realize that there is a problem with Fenerbahce defensive lines so that's why for for second leg he will do some changes and probably using different strategies than the first leg

Fenerbahce have to win with 2 goals margin or more from Lille if want to qualified to the next round but i am not sure they can able to do that especially Lille has solid defense and it's not easy to broke their defensive lines even at Ligue 1 Lille has good reputation as the team with the strongest defense after PSG

Odds were even showing that Lille would win, and the fact that Fenerbahce almost got a draw at an away game and only lost because of a bounced shot on the very last minutes, shows that they are doing pretty good. Just looking at stats doesn't really gives justice to fenerbahce, well to eb fair to Mourinho instead and not fenerbahce.

Because mourinho plays a style of football where he lets the other team have the ball, and expect the other team to make a mistake while closing down and pressing very well on his half. That means, if the other team makes any mistake, he would carry the ball to other teams half and try to score very quickly, he is not the Pep style of keeping the ball all game long. So you may see stats that shows other team played better whenever Mourinho's teams play someone, but the reality shows differently in most cases.

I feel like Fenerbahce has a chance at home game, and not a small chance neither, I mean like a serious chance that they could win. This was an away game and they barely lost, and we are going to see them play at home, with tens of thousands of fans supporting them, and they will probably have a chance to do a lot better on this game and go further.

[hyudien]

A bad result for Fenerbahçe... They should have defended Lille better than that. There is still an important gap in the defense line. I don't know if it is a concentration problem or else.

There are 5 days before the second leg is played. Mourinho is a great coach of course. But it looks like he needs to do some extra work for the next match. They have no other choice than winning. He stated he missed Fred in his injury period. He is really making difference in the midfield so I understand Mourinho.    Mourinho believes they can win the Europa League but of course his priority is to maintain their presence in the Champions League.

Lille managed to use the remaining extra time to make them win in this 3rd round qualifying match, so they can start the match with an advantage in the second leg later. However, a 1 goal difference is clearly not something safe for them, they still have to focus if they want to maintain the existing advantage. At least their task is easier in the second leg later because they only need a draw. Fenerbahce still has a chance, they have to play freely in the second leg later. They have to aim for a quick goal so that the game can be balanced again. There is no time for Fenerbahce to play it safe, because they have to chase the aggregate first. They also have to anticipate their opponents because it could be that Lille will play more defensively. They must not make any mistakes, including in their focus in the match. Because the goals they received in the first leg were also in minutes that were prone to players losing focus.

[Hvdv]

History is not something new to Real Madrid because they are use to making history. They made history this past season by winning UCL 15 times and they have also won UCL back to back, meaning Real Madrid is history themselves.

The team has a wonderful combination of world class players which are still young and desperate to create records for themselves. The old players in terms of age in Real Madrid are leaving gradually and soon the squad will be of young and vibrant players which will serve the club for a long period of time before they will leave.

It is true that Real Madrid is a top club which of course has won the most UCL titles and of course because Real Madrid is really great at finding players and very smart in choosing talented young players, it is not surprising that now Real Madrid has won 15 times. UCL and of course Real Madrid are the clubs that have won the most UCL titles. and the second club is of course Milan, which has won 7 UCL titles to date and of course when compared, Ac Milan is very different from Real Madrid in terms of income from UCL titles.

Yes, of course Real Madrid can always get a great coach and of course now Real Madrid is also lucky because they have a professional coach, namely Ancelotti and Ancelotti who I remember has succeeded in making Real Madrid become UCL champions 3 times and maybe Ancelotti has great potential to bring Real Madrid won the UCL title for the 4th time.

Yes, the achievements achieved by Real Madrid are certainly extraordinary and it seems that in the future I see that Real Madrid will have the potential to continue to be successful. and of course other clubs will definitely find it difficult to beat Real Madrid. But of course it is not impossible that in the future there will be a club that can beat Real Madrid.

I agree with you, there will be a season that Real Madrid will not win UCL because it is not only them that is the strongest club in UCL, it is just that currently they are the strongest. Time will come when other clubs will definitely win UCL and that has also happened before because if they have lost many UCL competitions but have won more than any other club.

We might see a different club winning UCL next two seasons because a lot of clubs are building their team to a perfect match for Real Madrid which that might not be achieved next season and it is possible next two season.

We can't know. When we look at the current squads, the best squad in the world seems to be Real Madrid. Of course, football is a game played on the field and a sport shaped by negative things. A red card in the match can upset all the balances. So although it is quite difficult to say for sure, I still think Real Madrid is one of the few teams that I expect to win the UCL under normal conditions, in fact they are the strongest candidate.

[Velvet78]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

[Ndabagi01]

I agree with you, there will be a season that Real Madrid will not win UCL because it is not only them that is the strongest club in UCL, it is just that currently they are the strongest. Time will come when other clubs will definitely win UCL and that has also happened before because if they have lost many UCL competitions but have won more than any other club.

We might see a different club winning UCL next two seasons because a lot of clubs are building their team to a perfect match for Real Madrid which that might not be achieved next season and it is possible next two season.

We can't know. When we look at the current squads, the best squad in the world seems to be Real Madrid. Of course, football is a game played on the field and a sport shaped by negative things. A red card in the match can upset all the balances. So although it is quite difficult to say for sure, I still think Real Madrid is one of the few teams that I expect to win the UCL under normal conditions, in fact they are the strongest candidate.

They might be the best in the champions league but they may also fall out of the league when you least expect it because anything can happen in football. All the seasons they usually get eliminated are the times when you won’t expect it to be so even though some signs use to be there to know that they’re not in their best form this season. With the way they play in the champions league, you’ll assume they even take it more serious than the La Liga which they ought to always win as one of the major trophies for them too. Let’s see how this season goes even though they’re showing the best performance for now to win the Champions League yet again. The champions league may not be their own league and they might not always win it but for any team to beat their record now to overcome them will be very unlikely to happen.

[Abu-Naim]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

Why did you exempt Bayer Leverkusen, Inter Milan, and Arsenal; are they not capable enough or they don't have good squad to be among the title challenge next season? I forget to add Barcelona as well.
Underrating these teams is not proper because we have seen how they performed well last season especially Arsenal and Leverkusen who did well in their respective domestic leagues.

These teams can give us some surprising performances in the Champions League next season.

[HajiBagi]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

I pray Bayern Munich should be able to perform well this coming season so that they will be able to win a trophy and Harry Kane will have rest of mind for what people are saying about him, Harry Kane is a good striker, let say he of the best striker in the history of football because when it comes to scoring goals he is the best but to win a trophy has become an issue for him, Bayern Munich have got another coach and I think that will help the team so much, Bayern Munich also sign new players that can make the team strong and I think with those player’s Bayern Munich is going to have a good season.

Although Kompany has never had a good career as a coach I believe he can handle a big team like Bayern Munich that has good players, Bayern Munich can win the Bundesliga title and also have a good performance in this champion league but it depends on how they perform, they can win Bundesliga but for winning the champion league when there is a team like Real Madrid and Manchester City they have to play very well in the league to win the trophy.

[Frankolala]

I agree with you, there will be a season that Real Madrid will not win UCL because it is not only them that is the strongest club in UCL, it is just that currently they are the strongest. Time will come when other clubs will definitely win UCL and that has also happened before because if they have lost many UCL competitions but have won more than any other club.

We might see a different club winning UCL next two seasons because a lot of clubs are building their team to a perfect match for Real Madrid which that might not be achieved next season and it is possible next two season.

We can't know. When we look at the current squads, the best squad in the world seems to be Real Madrid. Of course, football is a game played on the field and a sport shaped by negative things. A red card in the match can upset all the balances. So although it is quite difficult to say for sure, I still think Real Madrid is one of the few teams that I expect to win the UCL under normal conditions, in fact they are the strongest candidate.

They might be the best in the champions league but they may also fall out of the league when you least expect it because anything can happen in football. All the seasons they usually get eliminated are the times when you won’t expect it to be so even though some signs use to be there to know that they’re not in their best form this season. With the way they play in the champions league, you’ll assume they even take it more serious than the La Liga which they ought to always win as one of the major trophies for them too. Let’s see how this season goes even though they’re showing the best performance for now to win the Champions League yet again. The champions league may not be their own league and they might not always win it but for any team to beat their record now to overcome them will be very unlikely to happen.

I agree with you that it might not be possible for Real Madrid to win UCL next season even though they have the best squad since football is full of surprises but the chances of that happening is very slim because everyone knows that the Champions League is more of their focus and that is why they are equipped the team with new players for that purpose.

However, it will be a very big disappointment and a shame if with all the players they have in their team, Real Madrid fail to win UCL next season.

[Jegileman]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

For Kane’s sake, a lot of us will want the him to win his first trophy under Kompany but can that be possible with a lot of uncertainty surrounding Kompany as the new head coach of the team? He has done well in the past and also done worst in the past, we can’t judge him entirely to know what result he’s going to provide here as the head coach of the team. Bayern Munich are also amongst the top contender for the Champions league title and they have all it takes to win the Champions League trophy just like Real Madrid and Manchester City. I don’t doubt their squad but only doubt if their coach can make good use of them all and utilize them well to the advantage of the team and the whole squad. A lot is expected from Kompany, I hope he’s a able to do enough to satisfy a lot of people what they expect from him.

[Adams0001]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

I pray Bayern Munich should be able to perform well this coming season so that they will be able to win a trophy and Harry Kane will have rest of mind for what people are saying about him, Harry Kane is a good striker, let say he of the best striker in the history of football because when it comes to scoring goals he is the best but to win a trophy has become an issue for him, Bayern Munich have got another coach and I think that will help the team so much, Bayern Munich also sign new players that can make the team strong and I think with those player’s Bayern Munich is going to have a good season.

Although Kompany has never had a good career as a coach I believe he can handle a big team like Bayern Munich that has good players, Bayern Munich can win the Bundesliga title and also have a good performance in this champion league but it depends on how they perform, they can win Bundesliga but for winning the champion league when there is a team like Real Madrid and Manchester City they have to play very well in the league to win the trophy.

That is the main point for Harry Kane, he wants to get a trophy before he retires because he is getting old and he has not achieved his goal, but I think since Bayern Munich has changed coaches, I believe they will perform well, he won't be like last season on, he will be very hard for Bayern Munich to win the Champions League, but I am sure they will try their hardest, but Manchester City and Real Madrid are in the competition, and it is not easy to defeat both of them, but let see how the game will go and see if they can get the chance of winning the UCL next season. what I just think Bayern Munich will win is Bundesliga title because they usually dominate the League every season, but bayer Leverkusen stop them but am sure the new coach won't repeat mistake  like Tuchel make last season. he will use another tactic to win the league.

Many people believe Kompany is not very good and will struggle in the league with Bayern Munich, but they need to see how he performs first before complaining about him. Bayern Munich is a major club, and they still have many experienced players on the team, therefore I feel Bayern Munich could possibly try their best and earn trophies, even if it is not the Champions League. Harry Kane will fulfill his dream.

[Adiljutt156]

Saint Maximin had a good first half. Fenerbahçe is playing worse as a team but I can say that. Lille is using the advantage of being home very well. Livakovic is on a good day today. If Livakovic was bad, Fenerbahçe would have conceded 4 goals already.

The match is finally over, as Fernabach was defeated at Lille's home pitch. Mourinho lost his first game as Fernabach's manager. Lille dominated the match, despite Fernabach's having their best striker Džeko who scored 4 goals in their previous two games, but he was unable to score tonight. Fernabach could not endure Lille pressure to defend their home to the last whistle, and Zhegrova had a chance to score the winning goal for Lille in the final minute of the game.

However, if Livakovic had not stopped so many goals in this match, Fernabach would have conceded more than two. This is the first leg of two; Fernabach still has a chance to go to the next round because they are hosting the next match, and Fernabach might get a home advantage against Lille. It would be sad if Mourinho did not qualify for the Champions League in his debut with Fernabach.

We are watching the third qualifying round of UEFA Champions league . I am discussing the match between Fenerbahçe SK football team and LOSC Lille football team. The match was full of competition and both teams played well in this match . As we know that only one team wins the match in the end, Zhegrova did second in this match and before his goal match was equal and match could go to penalties but he did goal with active of mind and did goal at right time for his team . I really appreciate to that player because that was a big match for both teams to qualify in the next round. Now , we will see that which team will qualify for next round and which team will be out of this round. In the next matches ,we will see the results of matches and then we could calculate the facts and figures.

[Mr.suevie]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

Why did you exempt Bayer Leverkusen, Inter Milan, and Arsenal; are they not capable enough or they don't have good squad to be among the title challenge next season? I forget to add Barcelona as well.
Underrating these teams is not proper because we have seen how they performed well last season especially Arsenal and Leverkusen who did well in their respective domestic leagues.

These teams can give us some surprising performances in the Champions League next season.

Well with no doubt that these teams you mentioned are good teams but the truth is that they are just not good enough or should I say have the experience enough to make that bold move of actually winning the champions league. For arsenals case they should focus more on actually winning the league and overcoming the spell that Manchester city have got on them because even when it comes to the champions league they really don't perform that much but as for Leverkusen am juat certain that this season won't be an easy one for them at all.

[GiftedMAN]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

The Champions League is surely going to have the big teams being among the finalist next season but it is still not certain to know if Manchester City and Bayern Munich will be among the big teams cause apart from Bayern Munich having a new younger manager they also need to get along with the new players to be able to improve their performance and for Manchester City, they have been around the last group of the champions league for two seasons now we don't know if they will keep getting better next season like Real Madrid has been in the past years they have a good team and they have added more dangerous player in the team so everyone is expecting their performance to get better.

Harry Kane is definitely going to lift a trophy next season but it's definitely not going to be the champions league cause the team is going to recover fully from their performance last season before challenging in the champions league competition again but hopefully Kane can win the league title with Bayern Munich next season.

[rahmad2nd]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

I personally do not really favor Bayern Munich in this competition, at least follow their development first when playing their domestic league. we know very well that Vincent Kompany's performance has not been proven with Bayern Munich, although it seems that Kompany has received support from the players of his team. Bayern's gameplay has not been clearly seen in their pre-season matches, at least we will have an idea after they play their matches. talking about Real Madrid, I thought they would initially renew their defense. but it seems they will not do it, reinforced by Carlo Ancelotti's statement. however, the transfer window has not closed yet, there is still a possibility that Madrid will bring in defenders. in midfield, I do not doubt the Madrid players. however, I have not seen the mobility of performance like Toni Kroos. as for Luka Modric, as we know he will be placed on the bench a lot. even though he is fielded, Modric is unlikely to play fully considering his age. besides, we do not know the compactness of Madrid's front line performance. can Mbappe play as a pure striker, considering he often moves from the wing position. There is still a lot that we don't know for sure, although theoretically Madrid is the team that is more favored. Meanwhile, City, did not make significant changes in this transfer window. However, their ambitions look much more serious, it's just that they don't necessarily have a smooth match without players who are injured. This is interesting, because I want to see the performance of several teams that are my focus before they play in the Champions League competition.

[Pulsar77]

My top favourites for the title are clear:

• Real Madrid
• Manchester City

Real Madrid is at top of the list of course. Because they are already very dominant around here. Now they have brought the squad to another level with Mbappe transfer.    I don't know how they will be stopped. Guardiola is a great tactician. I've no doubt about that. But it doesn't look like he is good at beating Ancelotti in his own game.    We saw it the last time they faced each other. It would be amazing if we see a finale between them anyway.

[Cryptoprincess101]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

With the look of things now it just looks as if all other clubs has abandoned the Champions League for Real Madrid because the team don't even look like they will give other teams the opportunity to win the champions league due to how strong they have become now and the number of professional footballers in the squad so even if Manchester City will want to Challenge Real Madrid, it can only get to an extent and they still give it up for Real Madrid because Manchester City met Madrid last season and Madrid won them so they have basically given Manchester City the impression that they are more stronger in the champions league. For Bayern Munich, let's not go there because I don't see them going far in the champions league because the team is yet to coordinate themselves properly.
           Kane has really been so unlucky with winning trophies despite that he is a professional goal scorer but if he wants to win the champions league he should consider joining top European clubs and leave Bayern Munich Because with how they performed last season if they do same this season they will face too many challenges in the champions league games.

[Egii Nna]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

You are really for a joke, if not what on earth will make you think that Kane can start winning trophies with the Champions League trophy. The funniest part is this season, when all therm will try the best they can to see they stop Real Madrid from winning the Champions League trophy again this season, but as seen, it will be very hard for that to happen. That is why I was surprised when you were thinking about the challenge because I know it will be very hard for Manchester City to make it to Real Madrid because only Holland can’t hold Real Madrid, so a lot needs to be put into consideration, but that of the company, we all expect to see a good improvement in Bayern Munich, not a poor performance, so hope is in him.

[Weawant]

I expect a title challenge among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich this season. But more like a Real Madrid - Manchester City fight depending on how much Bayern Munich will progress. They have a new manager, Kompany. There is still a week for the new season to start for them. We don't have any idea about what Kompany can do with a big team yet.

Bur for Kane's sake, I want to see them in this race. He is the player with the highest effort in the squad. Wouldn't it be great to see Kane starting to win trophies with a Champions League one? 

Why did you exempt Bayer Leverkusen, Inter Milan, and Arsenal; are they not capable enough or they don't have good squad to be among the title challenge next season? I forget to add Barcelona as well.
Underrating these teams is not proper because we have seen how they performed well last season especially Arsenal and Leverkusen who did well in their respective domestic leagues.

These teams can give us some surprising performances in the Champions League next season.

When it comes to the champions league, the prowess of Manchester city and Real Madrid has always been outstanding such that it cannot and never be undermined hence its almost very normal to think and talk about them firstly before trying to think about others in the league who are anticipated to be in the title race, and this forme doesn't in any way undermine the ability of others who are aswell in the race as they too can get on with brilliant performance and it becomes a stance for the other team to get on their feet as the title race will become even more tough than they would have taught.