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September 03, 2024, 03:24:09 PM
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So 1st out of 8 matchdays will take place between Tue 17th Sep and Thu 19th Sep.
We'll see a total of 18 games, so plenty to choose from. The biggest one is probably Man City Vs Inter in Manchester. The champions of England and last year Champion's League finalists against the champions of Italy who almost made it to the UCL quarter finals (lost to Atletico Madrid on penalties).
Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.
I think these two games that you stated above will be the most interesting on that day. It will be lovely to see City and Inter clashing but I think City have the high chance of winning Inter because they are playing in Etihad stadium. Inter have improved in their performance and I know that match will be a challenge for Inzaghi.

Milan is currently weak if you look at it from their recent performance, their new coach cannot understand the team and how to manage the players making it difficult for them to win matches. It is clear that Liverpool will be able to win the match but one should not use the performance of a team in their domestic league to judge in UCL.

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September 03, 2024, 03:28:31 PM
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Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.

Milan did not have a good start to the 3 matches. In contrast to Liverpool's performance in the Premier League, they won 3 matches in full, without even conceding a goal.
But we know that the team's performance in the Champions League is sometimes far from our predictions. Moreover, Milan will play at home, and also related to the rumor that the Milan coach might get bad luck if his team's performance does not improve.

Another interesting match is Arsenal vs Atalanta. Atalanta in Serie A has also only got 3 points from 3 matches. A bad start for a team that won the Europa League trophy last season. In terms of chances, Arsenal will definitely be more favored even though they will play at Atalanta's home.

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September 03, 2024, 03:34:42 PM
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So 1st out of 8 matchdays will take place between Tue 17th Sep and Thu 19th Sep.
We'll see a total of 18 games, so plenty to choose from. The biggest one is probably Man City Vs Inter in Manchester. The champions of England and last year Champion's League finalists against the champions of Italy who almost made it to the UCL quarter finals (lost to Atletico Madrid on penalties).
Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.
We will  enter the international break this week considering that every country will play their matches for the World Cup qualifying matches and the Uefa Nations League, and of course every team will be a little worried about whether their players will play for their country considering that the Champions League match schedule is now getting closer, clubs which you mentioned will have their first match in the Champions League this season, but I think maybe we will see many surprises that occur in the 8 matches considering that there will be many big matches that will played, but I think the Milan vs Liverpool match will be a classic match and reminds us of their very tight rivalry in the past in every Champions League match, at the start of this season Liverpool showed quite good performance in the English league and this very different from Milan who have not found their best performance so far under their new coach, but I think that is will not promise an easy match for Liverpool in later.

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September 03, 2024, 06:40:40 PM
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We can definitely see that UCL is harder than any other league, that has to be the most important part and this is why it gets so much viewership and so much money to everyone.

Normally in other leagues those big teams do get that money, like whoever finishes at the top five places and such, but in UCL everyone gets a lot, I think every team in group stages already gets like 20 million, in most leagues that's the money for the winner except a few, and only the big teams get that much in big leagues, when you go further you make more money than any other league.

So, this is why UCL is harder, because the reward is higher as well, teams like Dortmund reaching finals even for once means that they have enough money to get so many great players like they did this year. This is why every team puts the biggest emphasis on UCL, if you have a chance to rest a player for one game and play another, you rest him during the league and play him at UCL game without a doubt.

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September 03, 2024, 06:58:19 PM
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So 1st out of 8 matchdays will take place between Tue 17th Sep and Thu 19th Sep.
We'll see a total of 18 games, so plenty to choose from. The biggest one is probably Man City Vs Inter in Manchester. The champions of England and last year Champion's League finalists against the champions of Italy who almost made it to the UCL quarter finals (lost to Atletico Madrid on penalties).
Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.

City is quoted at 1.49, and Liverpool at 1.88. Liverpool is the favorite, but the odds are close to 2, since it's an away game. Plus, we mustn't forget that this is a group tournament and the value of each game is relatively small, so we won't see an irreconcilable fight in every game. Probably the most reliable option is to make 18 bets on a draw (well, not 18, but less, since we need to exclude games like Bayern - Dynamo lol).

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September 03, 2024, 06:59:30 PM
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Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.

Milan did not have a good start to the 3 matches. In contrast to Liverpool's performance in the Premier League, they won 3 matches in full, without even conceding a goal.
But we know that the team's performance in the Champions League is sometimes far from our predictions. Moreover, Milan will play at home, and also related to the rumor that the Milan coach might get bad luck if his team's performance does not improve.

Another interesting match is Arsenal vs Atalanta. Atalanta in Serie A has also only got 3 points from 3 matches. A bad start for a team that won the Europa League trophy last season. In terms of chances, Arsenal will definitely be more favored even though they will play at Atalanta's home.
Indeed, when talking about Champions League matches, the results are always unexpected. Clubs that perform poorly in the Domestic League are actually focused on the opportunity to do better in the Champions League. Therefore, Liverpool should not underestimate Inter who have indeed performed poorly in Serie A. Moreover Arsenal will get a fairly difficult opponent like Atalanta, they were the Europa League champions last season and in terms of Atalanta game is strong enough to make Arteta game plan difficult.

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Indeed, when talking about Champions League matches, the results are always unexpected. Clubs that perform poorly in the Domestic League are actually focused on the opportunity to do better in the Champions League. Therefore, Liverpool should not underestimate Inter who have indeed performed poorly in Serie A. Moreover Arsenal will get a fairly difficult opponent like Atalanta, they were the Europa League champions last season and in terms of Atalanta game is strong enough to make Arteta game plan difficult.
Domestic leagues is quite different and mostly key factor for elite clubs to win games and lift trophies. For elite clubs, we've watch the epic performance and results for most of these elite clubs in previous seasons. Manchester City and Real Madrid stands in the picture and obtaining a winning shouldn't be a challenge for them, the players understands the pressing presure and how to coupled up with the necessities. The UEFA Champions League is tough, but we expects brilliant results from elite clubs since they're more advanced than average clubs.

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Indeed, when talking about Champions League matches, the results are always unexpected. Clubs that perform poorly in the Domestic League are actually focused on the opportunity to do better in the Champions League. Therefore, Liverpool should not underestimate Inter who have indeed performed poorly in Serie A. Moreover Arsenal will get a fairly difficult opponent like Atalanta, they were the Europa League champions last season and in terms of Atalanta game is strong enough to make Arteta game plan difficult.
Domestic leagues is quite different and mostly key factor for elite clubs to win games and lift trophies. For elite clubs, we've watch the epic performance and results for most of these elite clubs in previous seasons. Manchester City and Real Madrid stands in the picture and obtaining a winning shouldn't be a challenge for them, the players understands the pressing presure and how to coupled up with the necessities. The UEFA Champions League is tough, but we expects brilliant results from elite clubs since they're more advanced than average clubs.

But indeed, usually some elite teams have different results to the ones they have in the domestic league and in the Champions League because indeed, even though elite teams have good results in the domestic league, but the reality is that it is still possible for them to get bad results in the Champions League. But even so, when the matches have not started yet then surely we will have at least the same voice about the good chance for the elite teams in the Champions League, they still have a chance to win. What's more, with this new format because the system also has to get as many points as possible then of course these elite teams might perform even more optimally in the Champions League this season.

I mean, comparing the old format and this new format, I think in this new format the competition will be more competitive and maybe, their habits in the past will change with this new format because they also need a lot of points to qualify for the next round. With that reason, even though we're still not used to the new format, but I think the competition will be more interesting than the old format, so let's look forward to it.

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Milan did not have a good start to the 3 matches. In contrast to Liverpool's performance in the Premier League, they won 3 matches in full, without even conceding a goal.
But we know that the team's performance in the Champions League is sometimes far from our predictions. Moreover, Milan will play at home, and also related to the rumor that the Milan coach might get bad luck if his team's performance does not improve.

Another interesting match is Arsenal vs Atalanta. Atalanta in Serie A has also only got 3 points from 3 matches. A bad start for a team that won the Europa League trophy last season. In terms of chances, Arsenal will definitely be more favored even though they will play at Atalanta's home.

I'm a Liverpool fan and if I'm being honest, that stats about not conceding any goals so far is just good for the records. The real test is going to be how long this Liverpool team can go before they lose it. My guess? Pretty soon.  Liverpool have won Milan a couple of times in the past so I'm sure that fixture will bring a lot of memories. I'm not saying this Liverpool team slot is building is not it but just stating some fact that Milan, despite starting poorly this season, shouldn't be underestimated.

For Arsenal vs Atalanta, My money is going to be on Arsenal because on paper, they're a much more better team than Atalanta. Let's not forget that Atalanta got battered by Inter last week and Inter would struggle against Arsenal but it's football. Anything can happen.

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September 03, 2024, 11:32:14 PM
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Indeed, when talking about Champions League matches, the results are always unexpected. Clubs that perform poorly in the Domestic League are actually focused on the opportunity to do better in the Champions League. Therefore, Liverpool should not underestimate Inter who have indeed performed poorly in Serie A. Moreover Arsenal will get a fairly difficult opponent like Atalanta, they were the Europa League champions last season and in terms of Atalanta game is strong enough to make Arteta game plan difficult.
I disagree if you conclude the results of UCL matches "always unexpected". I think it can be true if we say "sometimes unexpected".

IMO, every team should still focus on the domestic leagues until the end of the season. Even if they don't perform well there, it is impossible to put it aside. Each team must try to do their best in their domestic leagues, they have a minimum target to be achieved. For example Liverpool and Atalanta, they must keep their focus on domestic leagues because they will try to finish again in the UCL zone at least.

I agree that Liverpool must be careful with Atalanta. The bad performance in Serie A doesn't reflect the possibility of Atalanta in UCL. They may have bad luck in the early matches in Serie A, but it doesn't mean they will have bad luck in UCL matches as well. Sometimes a certain team has a stronger motivation when they play in UCL or UEL. It can be caused by their good history in the competition or the prestige value of the competition.



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September 03, 2024, 11:43:44 PM
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Indeed, when talking about Champions League matches, the results are always unexpected. Clubs that perform poorly in the Domestic League are actually focused on the opportunity to do better in the Champions League. Therefore, Liverpool should not underestimate Inter who have indeed performed poorly in Serie A. Moreover Arsenal will get a fairly difficult opponent like Atalanta, they were the Europa League champions last season and in terms of Atalanta game is strong enough to make Arteta game plan difficult.
I disagree if you conclude the results of UCL matches "always unexpected". I think it can be true if we say "sometimes unexpected".

IMO, every team should still focus on the domestic leagues until the end of the season. Even if they don't perform well there, it is impossible to put it aside. Each team must try to do their best in their domestic leagues, they have a minimum target to be achieved. For example Liverpool and Atalanta, they must keep their focus on domestic leagues because they will try to finish again in the UCL zone at least.

I agree that Liverpool must be careful with Atalanta. The bad performance in Serie A doesn't reflect the possibility of Atalanta in UCL. They may have bad luck in the early matches in Serie A, but it doesn't mean they will have bad luck in UCL matches as well. Sometimes a certain team has a stronger motivation when they play in UCL or UEL.

Well I had to quote both post to emphasize on the sentence the result are always unexpected.  I can say that the result might be unexpected not because of the assumption that club that performed poorly in their  domestic league can perform better in UCL( that's totally wrong though) why? Every club that participates in UCL are taken from the selection of top table finishers and I don't expect a team who performed woefully in their domestic league  to get selected in the first place. Thus about  the result, since the system changed a little them we should also be expecting some new results (so it's still very possible to have an unexpected results this time around) but at the same time I won't be surprised to see the opposite

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But indeed, usually some elite teams have different results to the ones they have in the domestic league and in the Champions League because indeed, even though elite teams have good results in the domestic league, but the reality is that it is still possible for them to get bad results in the Champions League. But even so, when the matches have not started yet then surely we will have at least the same voice about the good chance for the elite teams in the Champions League, they still have a chance to win. What's more, with this new format because the system also has to get as many points as possible then of course these elite teams might perform even more optimally in the Champions League this season.

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I think it is true that top teams can do well in their country league but struggle in Champions League. But I believe new format will make them play even better. They will need to get as many points as possible to move forward so they will try harder. This will make competition more exciting and challenging. I am looking forward to seeing how teams change their approach to win. We are still getting used to new format but I think it will make Champions League more fun and unpredictable.

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Today at 02:19:21 AM
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I agree that Liverpool must be careful with Atalanta. The bad performance in Serie A doesn't reflect the possibility of Atalanta in UCL. They may have bad luck in the early matches in Serie A, but it doesn't mean they will have bad luck in UCL matches as well. Sometimes a certain team has a stronger motivation when they play in UCL or UEL. It can be caused by their good history in the competition or the prestige value of the competition.
They lost big to Atalanta at their home stadium Anfield last season in Europa League and this is a painful lesson for Liverpool. Meeting Atalanta again in this season is a good opportunity for Liverpool to prove that their defeat last season is simply an accident and they are actually stronger and better than Atalanta.

To beat Atalanta, Liverpool must avoid same attitude, too confident like the last season, and can reduce risk of counter attacks from Atalanta. It will help them to minimize risk of losing against this opponent one more time.

I'm a Liverpool fan and if I'm being honest, that stats about not conceding any goals so far is just good for the records. The real test is going to be how long this Liverpool team can go before they lose it. My guess? Pretty soon.
Liverpool are performing impressively with their new head coach Slot but all teams have to fail some day. Liverpool are good but not too strong like a dominating team so that they can have unbeaten season like Leverkusen last season. Soon Liverpool will lose their first match in this season and it can come from any opponent. Liverpool are not perfect and Slot has many things to do with his players in this season.

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Today at 03:56:13 AM
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I think it is true that top teams can do well in their country league but struggle in Champions League. But I believe new format will make them play even better. They will need to get as many points as possible to move forward so they will try harder.

36 teams have been identified and they are ready to compete for victory and champion. With a new format, of course, there are new challenges. There will be more matches. If I'm not mistaken, it has increased 2 times to 225 matches. It looks scary, because this is related to the fitness condition of the players. Maybe we will watch a lot of matches but the players may also be tired. The League phase will start on September 17 and the knockout phase on February 11.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League

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Today at 05:32:49 AM
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36 teams have been identified and they are ready to compete for victory and champion. With a new format, of course, there are new challenges. There will be more matches. If I'm not mistaken, it has increased 2 times to 225 matches. It looks scary, because this is related to the fitness condition of the players. Maybe we will watch a lot of matches but the players may also be tired. The League phase will start on September 17 and the knockout phase on February 11.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
For the first time new format present with 36 teams participants and each team have eight difference opponent teams in league phase, drastically difference with old format each participants only have 6 matches on group phase and face only with three difference opponent teams with home and away format. UEFA get advantage with new format because they have much commission from TV broadcasting because have many matches than old format and earn much profitable from advertising.

But have bad side for players with busy schedule matches in domestic league and must playing until eight matches in Champion League for the first time, I don't know how possibility with international schedule very busy and players return to their club with injury will bring bad impact for teams its self.
Its long schedule of league phase start from September 17 or one week later after international break out and finish at February 11 or next year than usually old format group phase taken until the end of December only.

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Today at 06:04:08 AM
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But indeed, usually some elite teams have different results to the ones they have in the domestic league and in the Champions League because indeed, even though elite teams have good results in the domestic league, but the reality is that it is still possible for them to get bad results in the Champions League. But even so, when the matches have not started yet then surely we will have at least the same voice about the good chance for the elite teams in the Champions League, they still have a chance to win. What's more, with this new format because the system also has to get as many points as possible then of course these elite teams might perform even more optimally in the Champions League this season.
Although the new system does not provide any guarantee, elite teams still have a great chance of winning the UCL title. Popular teams like Madrid, Man City and several other popular teams have experience and can always manage players to keep their performance stable. And we can see from the efforts made by Madrid who recruited many players this season and Man City also brought back former Man City players. This is the reason elite teams always get a greater chance. The most important thing is that experience is the key to success in competing in the UCL and the coach is also very influential.

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Today at 07:01:01 AM
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Although the new system does not provide any guarantee, elite teams still have a great chance of winning the UCL title. Popular teams like Madrid, Man City and several other popular teams have experience and can always manage players to keep their performance stable. And we can see from the efforts made by Madrid who recruited many players this season and Man City also brought back former Man City players. This is the reason elite teams always get a greater chance. The most important thing is that experience is the key to success in competing in the UCL and the coach is also very influential.
I see this new single-league competition as an experiment. We will have to wait to see how things will turn out with this new pattern. Maybe there might be some adjustments in the future. Anyway, I commend UEFA for its creativity and innovation. This is why the Champions League has remained the most important yearly competition.

Big clubs will always have the advantage because they have enough money to buy the best players in the world. They are also able to hire the best coaches and have enough players to cover up for injuries and card suspension. Based on the current performance of Real Madrid, I don't think that the inclusion of some new players has impacted the club positively. They are struggling to remain dominant in the La Liga.

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Today at 07:26:05 AM
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Indeed, when talking about Champions League matches, the results are always unexpected. Clubs that perform poorly in the Domestic League are actually focused on the opportunity to do better in the Champions League. Therefore, Liverpool should not underestimate Inter who have indeed performed poorly in Serie A. Moreover Arsenal will get a fairly difficult opponent like Atalanta, they were the Europa League champions last season and in terms of Atalanta game is strong enough to make Arteta game plan difficult.
Underestimating the opponent is the biggest mistake a club can make, especially when they are competing in the UCL which always presents unexpected surprises. Inter were the Scudetto winners last season, they are also very experienced in the Champions League. Even though Liverpool is currently in their best form after successfully sweeping all points in the three games played in the EPL, there is no reason for them to underestimate their opponents, especially a team like Inter. Liverpool must learn from the result achieved when they were defeated by Atalanta last season in the Europa League, every match must be considered important even if the opponent they face is weaker than them.

In my opinion, Atalanta are not very strong this season, they have just suffered two consecutive defeats in Serie A. Arsenal, who are performing well, are one level above Atalanta, but Arteta must remain focused by fielding his best squad in order to achieve victory. Atalanta were so easy to beat in Serie A, they are very difficult to repeat the success achieved in the Europa League last season. Arsenal have always been consistent in maintaining their performance, especially this season their motivation is increasing to win the title, so Atalanta will not be too difficult for Arsenal.

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Today at 07:35:33 AM
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Guys, are you ready? Here is the league phase table that has been made and we will soon be in the first matchday in the next few weeks.

Of course this will be much tiring but also fun to see the new format with many exciting matches and I think we should prepare more money to bet considering the chances of multiplying it are also much greater.

In addition, we can see that there will be only 8 teams with the most points that will qualify for sure and there are 16 teams that will fight again in the play-off round to secure their steps to the last 16. On the other hand, for the 12 unlucky teams, they will be eliminated from the league phase and must try it in the next season.

Anyway, which match will you be looking forward to in the opening match later? For me, of course Liverpool against Milan will be a big match that we shouldn't miss.
Before the Group stage of the Champions League begins, we will first see a small pause on the League of Nations. Honestly, I am not at all enthusiastic about this new format, as soon as I looked at this table, I was reminded of this "another championship", I’m not sure that the teams is also delighted with this format, for them this is even greater load, and as a result, this can only lead to a deterioration in the quality of games. But let's look how it all will happen, because I have not yet fully figured out this innovation, so far I do not like it.
Indeed, this still poses a dilemma for some people and of course we have to get used to seeing it. Moreover, all teams must comply with the new regulations that will make it much more difficult for them to compete to win the title and there are also concerns that players will experience injuries.

Players are required to be able to play in all competitions and here it seems that the competition officials also don't want to know how they can arrange the schedule. This does seem like coercion, but every era must have something new and here the champions league must move to show something different. I think the decline in player quality if not balanced with intense training then it is very likely that it could happen.

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Milan did not have a good start to the 3 matches. In contrast to Liverpool's performance in the Premier League, they won 3 matches in full, without even conceding a goal.
But we know that the team's performance in the Champions League is sometimes far from our predictions. Moreover, Milan will play at home, and also related to the rumor that the Milan coach might get bad luck if his team's performance does not improve.

Another interesting match is Arsenal vs Atalanta. Atalanta in Serie A has also only got 3 points from 3 matches. A bad start for a team that won the Europa League trophy last season. In terms of chances, Arsenal will definitely be more favored even though they will play at Atalanta's home.

I'm a Liverpool fan and if I'm being honest, that stats about not conceding any goals so far is just good for the records. The real test is going to be how long this Liverpool team can go before they lose it. My guess? Pretty soon.  Liverpool have won Milan a couple of times in the past so I'm sure that fixture will bring a lot of memories. I'm not saying this Liverpool team slot is building is not it but just stating some fact that Milan, despite starting poorly this season, shouldn't be underestimated.
About AC Milan vs Liverpool this is their first met after 2021 in Champion league and if we see based on head to head statistics in the last few years both teams has been met several times and i can see Liverpool has good records from Milan moreover we all know although both teams has new manager but Liverpool performance is much better compared to Milan because Liverpool under Arne Slot still managed their unbeated records since pre season tour and if we see from their recent performance i think Liverpool should be able to overcomes Milan

Just like i said before Liverpool strongest opponent for League phase is only Real Madrid and i know they also will facing Leverkusen but i don't think Leverkusen still very strong like last season even they just suffered a defeat in the Bundesliga so i am confident Liverpool also can beat Leverkusen and besides these teams Liverpool only will facing Leipzig, Bologna, Lille, PSV and Girona which the status of these teams is only mediocre teams

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