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September 10, 2024, 06:10:29 PM
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The number of competitions that Madrid has to play certainly forces them to be able to rotate players well, as a big team and handled by experienced coach, of course they don't want to lose a single trophy from the competition they participate in ,so I think all competitions will certainly be played seriously and not just La Liga and the Champions League, see the number of injured players at the moment, Madrid journey may be a little difficult, but that doesn't mean they won't focus on all of these competitions, because we know how Madrid and Ancelotti have had great ambitions to win every trophy so far.
The player injuries experienced by Real Madrid at this time could indeed be an obstacle for Real Madrid to perform well in every match, but I also believe in the level of consistency of the current Real Madrid team. Because Real Madrid's mentality in the Champions League is always very big and Ancelotti himself certainly knows what to do and give his best for the team with the current conditions even though one of them is having to be smart enough in rotating players when the match schedule looks quite close for several competitions.
Real Madrid team has been plagued by multiple injuries yet how they come back in a big way at the crucial time of the season. Karim Benzema left Real Madrid a few seasons ago and when the striker played for Real Madrid he was the only striker for Real Madrid. But after the departure of Karim Benzema, Real Madrid have not recruited any players to their club even though they have tried to bring Mbappe into the team. Mbappe officially joined Real Madrid in 2024, but since Benzema's departure to Mbappe's arrival at the club, Real Madrid have played without a main striker. Jude Bellingholm was bought by Real Madrid as a midfielder but the player played in the finishing position due to the lack of a main finisher. So even if there are injury problems, I don't think Real Madrid will fail to do well because of these problems.
You have summarized the process, but even if there is an injury, I think Real Madrid can produce many alternatives for Mbappe. Although Joselu did not play very efficiently last year, they got extra performance with Bellingham. We can see similar things this year. Ancelotti can pull a rabbit out of the hat again. He is a very successful coach in training players for other positions. I am sure he has also planned for Mbappe's absence.
Real Madrid have many alternatives for their front line, the problem this season is how Ancelotti can maximize his midfield position after Toni Kroos left. The position left by Kroos is very crucial and I see no suitable replacement for that position. If the role of the midfield improves I think it will not be so difficult for Madrid to maintain their consistency this season.
I think there was a big gap in that area after Toni Kroos left football. Real Madrid has not filled this gap yet, but maybe they can get a player there in the mid-season transfer window. Of course, it depends on how they will proceed until the mid-season transfer window. If they draw a bad graph, I'm sure they can consider a transfer instead of Kroos.

 
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September 10, 2024, 06:12:50 PM
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I have also observed that Real Madrid performance in Champions League is usually different from their La Liga matches maybe this should be due to the Anceloti influence who is gifted in the Champions League and the only coach to have won the champions league five times. This year they are still a big threat for any team as they will be playing to defend the title. They might have started badly with their La Liga but they have a fast way of putting their house in order to confront any opponent. Most definitely they will regain the consistency they are known for and will give Barcelona a big fight as usual.

La Liga and the Champions League will always be important for Ancelotti. But the Champions League always has great prestige for Madrid. They always perform great in the Champions League. Ancelotti always has a strong strategy for matches against strong teams in the Champions League. Madrid has a strength that no other team has in the Champions League. It is their champion mentality that I think they maintain in every Champions League match they play. It is like saying that they are the champions.

I personally will not always be fixated only on Ancelotti who managed to get five Champions League trophies because after all, Ancelotti also only succeeded when he was the manager of top teams like Real Madrid and Milan. But, when Ancelotti became the manager of other middle teams and some were also still top teams in different leagues, but in reality Ancelotti did not even succeed in improving the quality of the team in other teams in different leagues. Therefore, I think whether Real Madrid will succeed or not in the Champions League this season, it still seems to prioritize team performance first and cannot rely on just a few parties or players.

But indeed, when it comes to the Champions League and Real Madrid it is like something that is difficult to separate. Because after all, even though Real Madrid did not have good results in the domestic league but in fact, Real Madrid always managed to get good results in the Champions League and even, managed to get the trophy too. But I think this season might be more difficult,  because with the implementation of the new format then of course it will make teams like Real Madrid also get different challenges, so there is still no guarantee for Real Madrid to succeed this season.

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September 10, 2024, 06:20:12 PM
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Clubs have targets every season, there's vast difference for these clubs, winning league games differentiate these clubs, we have the elite ones that have no challenge, always ready to gain position on the table and accumulating winning points, the average clubs that's having epic challenges towards oppositions. La Liga is competitive but not for Real Madrid and Barcelona, these teams owned the league, there's exceptionally no season that passes by without these clubs winning titles. Real Madrid have made the UEFA Champions League as their priority,  so winning the UCL title becomes very easy for them.
To be sure, it's not as easy as you say.
Real Madrid has indeed become the king of the Champions League with many titles, but to win the Champions League title you have to try hard to overcome various challenges from teams who expect Real Madrid to fail. It's not easy to beat PSG, it's not easy to beat Bayern Munich and it's never easy to beat Manchester City and Liverpool, but at least Real Madrid managed to beat them to win the title.

Even though the Champions League title is the main priority, Real Madrid should not underestimate its competition in the domestic league. La Liga, Copa Del Rey and Super Cup are prestigious titles in Spain, so they will not ignore any challenges from there.

 
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September 10, 2024, 06:31:52 PM
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I doubt that Real will have any problems in the group stage of the Champions League, and given the new format, even if there are a few unexpected results, it will still not prevent them from getting out of the group. Militao will be back in a few weeks, and without Alaba they have been playing for a long time, Bellingham, in my opinion, is also ready to play, so Ancelotti does not have big problems with the squad, any injury is unpleasant for a coach, you can’t prepare for it. Now Real will have an important match with Real Sociedad, because they cannot lose points in La Liga.

The injury crisis that Real Madrid are facing now is such that they cannot be used against them in any of the match they’ll be playing until the full squad are back again. Real Madrid is a very strong team and I don’t think that the injury of few of their players will affect them that bad. They will already have a plan B for all of this and they can counter the effect of it until the full players are back.

A coach like Ancelotti can be believed to be the best man for the job and I hope he’s going to show to everyone that Real Madrid is not a team that depends on few players for their success. Anything can happen but when they mean to be at their best, they can still produce the best with the players available in the team at that time.

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September 10, 2024, 06:57:21 PM
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I think there was a big gap in that area after Toni Kroos left football. Real Madrid has not filled this gap yet, but maybe they can get a player there in the mid-season transfer window. Of course, it depends on how they will proceed until the mid-season transfer window. If they draw a bad graph, I'm sure they can consider a transfer instead of Kroos.
Ancelotti trusted the young Eduardo Camavinga and Jude Bellingham which is the main reason why they feel they don’t need replacement for Kroos because even when he is still in the towards the last season, they used to play ahead of him due to his age, but he do start in some important matches and he do also come in when they need experience to win games.
Nevertheless, I am also not too confident with Madrid’s current squad especially the defensive part; I think Ancelotti need to send his scouts to check for defenders and midfielder to sign in the January transfer window because they can be disappointed if injuries keep coining because we have seen how many players are already injured in their squad.











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September 10, 2024, 07:26:27 PM
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I have also observed that Real Madrid performance in Champions League is usually different from their La Liga matches maybe this should be due to the Anceloti influence who is gifted in the Champions League and the only coach to have won the champions league five times. This year they are still a big threat for any team as they will be playing to defend the title. They might have started badly with their La Liga but they have a fast way of putting their house in order to confront any opponent. Most definitely they will regain the consistency they are known for and will give Barcelona a big fight as usual.
La Liga and the Champions League will always be important for Ancelotti. But the Champions League always has great prestige for Madrid. They always perform great in the Champions League. Ancelotti always has a strong strategy for matches against strong teams in the Champions League. Madrid has a strength that no other team has in the Champions League. It is their champion mentality that I think they maintain in every Champions League match they play. It is like saying that they are the champions.
Champions League matches are always different, every club will try to impress because it's the most prestigious competition, while for LaLiga it's important but they can catch up when they're behind. I believe Real Madrid can get back on level terms later in LaLiga.

I've never doubted Real Madrid in the Champions League and it's true that they have a winning mentality that other clubs don't have, the players carry a bit more ambition in UCL matches even when last season they were a goal down to Bayern Munich but Real Madrid could turn it around to win.

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The player injuries experienced by Real Madrid at this time could indeed be an obstacle for Real Madrid to perform well in every match, but I also believe in the level of consistency of the current Real Madrid team. Because Real Madrid's mentality in the Champions League is always very big and Ancelotti himself certainly knows what to do and give his best for the team with the current conditions even though one of them is having to be smart enough in rotating players when the match schedule looks quite close for several competitions.
I doubt that Real will have any problems in the group stage of the Champions League, and given the new format, even if there are a few unexpected results, it will still not prevent them from getting out of the group. Militao will be back in a few weeks, and without Alaba they have been playing for a long time, Bellingham, in my opinion, is also ready to play, so Ancelotti does not have big problems with the squad, any injury is unpleasant for a coach, you can’t prepare for it. Now Real will have an important match with Real Sociedad, because they cannot lose points in La Liga.
Real Sociedad will not be a big problem for them. They can easily pass them because Sociedad started very badly this year. I can't say that Real Madrid started very well either, but there is an incredible difference between the squads. Real Madrid seems to be the best team in the world, not just in La Liga, right now. Because they have very strong offensive pictures. They will be very strong with Kylian Mbappe and Bellingham. Jude Bellingham, who is currently injured, probably won't lose points after he returns to the team.

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September 10, 2024, 08:23:07 PM
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To be sure, it's not as easy as you say.
Real Madrid has indeed become the king of the Champions League with many titles, but to win the Champions League title you have to try hard to overcome various challenges from teams who expect Real Madrid to fail. It's not easy to beat PSG, it's not easy to beat Bayern Munich and it's never easy to beat Manchester City and Liverpool, but at least Real Madrid managed to beat them to win the title.

Even though the Champions League title is the main priority, Real Madrid should not underestimate its competition in the domestic league. La Liga, Copa Del Rey and Super Cup are prestigious titles in Spain, so they will not ignore any challenges from there.
The team that caught my expectations short last season and I did not expect is Bayern Munich, I’m waiting patiently again because I don’t know what might come out from them during the title race. I knew Bayern Munich are tough but to an extend winning Arsenal is excellent, I predicted Arsenal winning at first leg and second leg mostly when it got to be a home game. I think they have a great potential this time and I’m expecting more since they proved they’re good during their previous champions league race, PSG as always they’re good likewise Real Madrid. The race this time will be reshuffle and we might not see that coming although I can easily predict a team strength by viewing their performance regular.

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September 10, 2024, 08:42:05 PM
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I have also observed that Real Madrid performance in Champions League is usually different from their La Liga matches maybe this should be due to the Anceloti influence who is gifted in the Champions League and the only coach to have won the champions league five times. This year they are still a big threat for any team as they will be playing to defend the title. They might have started badly with their La Liga but they have a fast way of putting their house in order to confront any opponent. Most definitely they will regain the consistency they are known for and will give Barcelona a big fight as usual.
La Liga and the Champions League will always be important for Ancelotti. But the Champions League always has great prestige for Madrid. They always perform great in the Champions League. Ancelotti always has a strong strategy for matches against strong teams in the Champions League. Madrid has a strength that no other team has in the Champions League. It is their champion mentality that I think they maintain in every Champions League match they play. It is like saying that they are the champions.
Champions League matches are always different, every club will try to impress because it's the most prestigious competition, while for LaLiga it's important but they can catch up when they're behind. I believe Real Madrid can get back on level terms later in LaLiga.

I've never doubted Real Madrid in the Champions League and it's true that they have a winning mentality that other clubs don't have, the players carry a bit more ambition in UCL matches even when last season they were a goal down to Bayern Munich but Real Madrid could turn it around to win.
La Liga is also important, but you are right, with so many games to play, they can catch up and they have proven that in previous seasons.
Talking about UCL, as I recall, when the trio of Ronaldo, Benzema and Bale were still playing for Real Madrid, they were behind on aggregate in UCL several times in the last few seasons when it was still using the old format, but Real Madrid were always able to turn things around and advance to the next round, there were many crucial moments shown there. This proves that Real Madrid's mentality is beyond doubt, another thing is that if Real Madrid reaches the final, they never lose. "The UCL trophy as if to be made only for Los Blancos", although the words I wrote are exaggerated, but I feel that, is there anyone here who feels the same way?

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September 10, 2024, 08:44:34 PM
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The problem of many team casualties can be figured out with the rest of the players on the bench. The main reason i like Ancelotti a lot is because even at this period he knows what to do, although you will still be some shaking in their defense and midfield but that won't stop them from winning games since they have a strong froward to score for them. Hopefully, most of the players on injury will be back before mid-time. Again, I would say that with their current team status, they are not strong enough to face teams like Mnajester City, Barcelona, Bayern PSG or Arsenal in the UCL.
This is exactly when you see a good manager be a good one, because right now he can do very well then it means that he is a great manager. If the whole Real Madrid team is healthy and they are winning games, that's not an achievement, you give me this Real Madrid team and even I would be able to win the league and UCL with them, wouldn't be a big achievement, you can do it too, half of the world can do it. But if he can keep the team going and winning with this many injuries then it would be something that will be great for him, it would show how great Ancelotti is without trouble.

I believe that it is going to be a tough situation but the possibility is out there and it can be done, I hope to see a lot more of this happening. Real Madrid is spending a lot on player salaries, everyone talks about transfer budget, but the salaries they are paying is huge, and they need to keep winning stuff to keep this going, if they fail to win even just a few years, they would suck.

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September 10, 2024, 08:57:26 PM
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Do you guys think any of the Italian teams could win the UCL this season?
It's about time. It has been 14 years since the last Italian team raised the cup (Inter in the 2009/10 season). It's a bit odd since Serie A is considered one of the strongest leagues in Europe.
We have 5 Italian teams participating: Inter, AC Milan, Juventus, Atalanta and Bologna.
Obviously Inter is rated as the strongest of them all. Still, Atalanta did very well in European competition last season and won the Europa Cup beating undefeated Leverkusen in the final. Maybe they can replicate their success in the UCL, but the start of the league season doesn't spark much optimism, they've lost 2 out of the first 3 games.

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Champions League matches are always different, every club will try to impress because it's the most prestigious competition, while for LaLiga it's important but they can catch up when they're behind. I believe Real Madrid can get back on level terms later in LaLiga.

I've never doubted Real Madrid in the Champions League and it's true that they have a winning mentality that other clubs don't have, the players carry a bit more ambition in UCL matches even when last season they were a goal down to Bayern Munich but Real Madrid could turn it around to win.
La Liga is also important, but you are right, with so many games to play, they can catch up and they have proven that in previous seasons.
Talking about UCL, as I recall, when the trio of Ronaldo, Benzema and Bale were still playing for Real Madrid, they were behind on aggregate in UCL several times in the last few seasons when it was still using the old format, but Real Madrid were always able to turn things around and advance to the next round, there were many crucial moments shown there. This proves that Real Madrid's mentality is beyond doubt, another thing is that if Real Madrid reaches the final, they never lose. "The UCL trophy as if to be made only for Los Blancos", although the words I wrote are exaggerated, but I feel that, is there anyone here who feels the same way?
See how the bookies continue to favor Real Madrid as champions this season, every generation of Madrid players is never lacking they always have young players whose talents are quite high and this is what Real Madrid has.

Trophies are made to look like they are for Real Madrid? Obviously you see how Real Madrid has 15 trophies while other teams are still far from surpassing it, and we know that every season Real Madrid never subsides in the title race, they are always a challenger and that is what opponents fear the great mentality that the Madrid squad has.

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The player injuries experienced by Real Madrid at this time could indeed be an obstacle for Real Madrid to perform well in every match, but I also believe in the level of consistency of the current Real Madrid team. Because Real Madrid's mentality in the Champions League is always very big and Ancelotti himself certainly knows what to do and give his best for the team with the current conditions even though one of them is having to be smart enough in rotating players when the match schedule looks quite close for several competitions.
This is still early and the opportunity is still very large, the current obstacle is not a big problem, some players are indeed in treatment due to injury, but that will not be long in my opinion because no one has a serious injury that requires a lot of time to recover.

Calm down our friend will see Real Madrid back to its track, this is just a challenge for the start of the season for them and I strongly believe their mentality and abilities can be relied on especially if the team's strength works entirely very likely to take a lot of trophies this season.
Eight Real Madrid players are currently injured. Bellingham is likely to be available sooner, followed by Dani Ceballos. It is true, for now Ancelotti has not felt a significant negative impact, which made them lose. However, in the future after the international break, the situation is quite worrying, where the Champions League campaign will soon roll. Four of the 8 players are defenders, although we all acknowledge Ancelotti managerial greatness, losing them certainly makes him feel dizzy. Of course it is true, gradually Real Madrid will definitely return to performing on fire. Currently everyone is curious and wants to see how strong Los Blancos are in full formation, which I think Ancelotti is also curious about the ammunition he has.

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The most difficult games for Madrid in my opinion will be the La liga games. The champions league games seem to be something they know how to deal with because teams from other countries don't really know how to play Madrid, but La liga teams have understood them and will give them more difficulty.
Real Sociedad is going to be a difficult game because aside from the injuries, more Madrid players were on international duties than Sociedad players so that gives them a little advantage too.
Well I don't think so IMO, Madrid has been qualifying to play in UCL for so many years ,they played with alot of teams so that strategy thing is out for me....they wouldn't have made it through to last year's final if not for some overlooked mistakes by opponent  and this is mostly die minute win though Madrid has a strategy of playing fast pressing games in their last minutes but I think those stuffs that happened last year won't repeat itself especially  Bayern, Bayern could have reached the finals if not for the last minute subs . Thus saying Realmadrid won't have difficulty issue in UCL with their current squad  doesn't seem right to me.



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See how the bookies continue to favor Real Madrid as champions this season, every generation of Madrid players is never lacking they always have young players whose talents are quite high and this is what Real Madrid has.

Real is a favourite when it comes to outright of winning La Liga, with odds of x1.50, which seems a bit odd, as it's Barcelona who are in the lead, with 4 points advantage over Real, and with amazing 13 goals in 4 matches scored so far.
But when it comes to the Champions League outright odds, Man City is the favourite with odds at x3.5 and Real is 2nd with odds of x4.5. I have a feeling we might have a few surprises this year and none of these two will make it to the UCL final.

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they wouldn't have made it through to last year's final if not for some overlooked mistakes by opponent  and this is mostly die minute win though Madrid has a strategy of playing fast pressing games in their last minutes but I think those stuffs that happened last year won't repeat itself especially  Bayern, Bayern could have reached the finals if not for the last minute subs . Thus saying Realmadrid won't have difficulty issue in UCL with their current squad  doesn't seem right to me.

You can call it luck, fortune or mistakes, it doesn't matter. this is how they've been playing all those years and they have won 15 Champions League playing like that. There is never a big game in Europe where Madrid completely dominates the game. They can look lost the whole game and still win. It's because they know how to win. What you call luck can be said to be their strategy. Something cannot be called luck if it happens year after year.

What they do is simple, make sure you don't create many chances and even if you create, they make sure they defend well so you don't score, then they make sure they score their own chances.
Against Bayern Munich last season, Bayern had the chance to bury the game in the first leg and second leg but they didn't take and they were knocked out.
Same thing against City. Madrid pressed and scored 3 goals in the Etihad Stadium, went to Spain and made sure to avoid defeat and take the game to penalties.


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September 11, 2024, 01:06:02 AM
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Well I don't think so IMO, Madrid has been qualifying to play in UCL for so many years ,they played with alot of teams so that strategy thing is out for me....they wouldn't have made it through to last year's final if not for some overlooked mistakes by opponent  and this is mostly die minute win though Madrid has a strategy of playing fast pressing games in their last minutes but I think those stuffs that happened last year won't repeat itself especially  Bayern, Bayern could have reached the finals if not for the last minute subs . Thus saying Realmadrid won't have difficulty issue in UCL with their current squad  doesn't seem right to me.
I do not think Real Madrid will have easy time in Champions League with their current team. They have history of doing well in tournament but last year they got lucky because of mistakes made by other teams. They also won some games at very last minute. Other teams like Bayern Munich could have won if they made different decisions. This means Real Madrid did not just win because they were best but also because of things outside of their control. So I think they will face problems in Champions League with their current team.

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September 11, 2024, 02:14:42 AM
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Well I don't think so IMO, Madrid has been qualifying to play in UCL for so many years ,they played with alot of teams so that strategy thing is out for me....they wouldn't have made it through to last year's final if not for some overlooked mistakes by opponent  and this is mostly die minute win though Madrid has a strategy of playing fast pressing games in their last minutes but I think those stuffs that happened last year won't repeat itself especially  Bayern, Bayern could have reached the finals if not for the last minute subs . Thus saying Realmadrid won't have difficulty issue in UCL with their current squad  doesn't seem right to me.
I do not think Real Madrid will have easy time in Champions League with their current team. They have history of doing well in tournament but last year they got lucky because of mistakes made by other teams. They also won some games at very last minute. Other teams like Bayern Munich could have won if they made different decisions. This means Real Madrid did not just win because they were best but also because of things outside of their control. So I think they will face problems in Champions League with their current team.
Somehow I don't agree with your opinion about Real Madrid, as if saying that Real Madrid was lucky because their opponent made a mistake even though this club is the number 1 club in the Champions League so Real Madrid's success in winning the title last season was not just luck but thanks to Carlo Anceloti's intelligence in creating a strategy he put Juselu in the final minutes and finally this player was able to break through Bayern Munich's defense and win the semifinal match and finally advance to the final so we can't say it was just luck because Real Madrid is still a strong candidate in the Champions League.

Competing in the Champions League is not easy but I still believe in Real Madrid's ability with the current squad. I don't underestimate other clubs. Bayern or Man City also have the same chance because they are also strong candidates in the UCL.

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September 11, 2024, 05:59:31 AM
Last edit: September 11, 2024, 06:17:03 AM by Solokan
 #3899

The number of competitions that Madrid has to play certainly forces them to be able to rotate players well, as a big team and handled by experienced coach, of course they don't want to lose a single trophy from the competition they participate in ,so I think all competitions will certainly be played seriously and not just La Liga and the Champions League, see the number of injured players at the moment, Madrid journey may be a little difficult, but that doesn't mean they won't focus on all of these competitions, because we know how Madrid and Ancelotti have had great ambitions to win every trophy so far.



Real Madrid must be able to play with many competitions and of course Ancelotti must be able to make his team's performance even better. Indeed, Ancelotti is always ambitious to win in all competitions and of course this is a natural thing because of course everyone also wants to win in all competition, but of course in this case Ancelotti is very lucky because he has good subordinates and many star players, who of course have great potential to achieve success and champion title in all competitions.

Indeed, currently many Real Madrid players are injured, but of course Real Madrid still has Mbappe, Vinicius and others who of course have great potential to make Real Madrid win. but of course it cannot be denied that if there were no injured Real Madrid players, of course Real Madrid's strength would be even better. But of course Real Madrid will definitely fight with the maximum in all competitions and it would definitely be a shame if Real Madrid failed to win many trophies.

but in my opinion what is most regrettable is Bellingham's injury because in my opinion if Bellingham is not injured it will certainly make it easier for Ancelotti to manage his technique but I see Real Madrid's 1st and 2nd tier players are certainly extraordinary but it is definitely not easy for Real Madrid in a competition to win but of course victory can definitely be achieved even with great difficulty.but I hope that Bellingham can recover quickly from his injury and can play later in the UCL against VfB











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I do not think Real Madrid will have easy time in Champions League with their current team. They have history of doing well in tournament but last year they got lucky because of mistakes made by other teams. They also won some games at very last minute. Other teams like Bayern Munich could have won if they made different decisions. This means Real Madrid did not just win because they were best but also because of things outside of their control. So I think they will face problems in Champions League with their current team.

As I see, Real Madrid is one of the strongest European teams in the Spanish league. Real Madrid is not easy to get their big titles such as LA LIGA, UFA and also LIGA Campion.
The team that was formed by Zidane has now become the king of Europe over and over again, it cannot be said that this year's Teal Madrid squad is more dangerous than last year when they won the championship, let's see which teams will enter the European semi-finals, is there Real Madrid? Among the 4 big teams, Mbappe will be the key to winning as the most agile striker who is feared by other teams.

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