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June 07, 2024, 11:16:21 AM
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Given that the OP was registered in 2017, I assume that he means that period and the years after that - but the only thing that I miss a bit is the price of BTC, which was several times lower than today, which means that sig campaigns paid more in BTC. Some things are simply the past and you have to come to terms with that - maybe we should be happy that the forum still exists as it is.

Well, lets hope for the best. But things are changing, the crypto market and regulations are changing.

This easy btc we get here in services/reviews/sig may reduce even more in the future, or even disappear...

I think this place will always have technical discussions (just like stackoverflow or reddit), even if activity drops dramatically.

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June 07, 2024, 11:52:21 AM
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One thing the admins could do is not make new rule changes that will affect forum activity. Looking at it from an activity point of view only, banning mixers was a bad decision. Those discussions that would have taken place on Bitcointalk are now happening elsewhere. Signature campaigns are important whether we like it or not. More changes like that could have similar results. 

This is just the truth that some of us are shying away from. You can not separate human from resources (money) and people will always prefer where there is more money. We can not realize this until the admins decide to ban signature campaigns, the forum will turn to ghost mode with less relevance. Majority of people will leave if that happens. Even people who are genuinely here to contribute and impact others with their knowledge are doing so because of the reward attached to it.

If these incentives are not more, people will become discourage to interact here and the activities will tremendously reduce. Compare a teacher who is getting paid for teaching and the one who is teaching for free, we don't need to be told which one will take the job seriously. Although, I don't blame the admins for their decisions since it was a preventive measure against a greater damage in the future, however, it is good to consider the impact of every decision too. The forum will become valueless even if it remains but no people to engage with one another.

It's normal to experience downfall at some point even in our real lives and we bounce back, I believe the forum will also bounce back to it peak soonest. People are living are people are also coming in, it's a natural phenomenon as every can not be here forever.

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June 07, 2024, 12:09:12 PM
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All social media don't even need to disappear first before Bitcointalk can regain its glory; both are there to serve different purposes, and aside from that, social media can't replace Bitcointalk; at least the ones that I'm seeing now can't replace Bitcointalk based on how this forum operates.
When it comes to getting help and assistance in solving specific problems, the knowledge roaming around on Bitcointalk and among its members isn't something you will find on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media platforms. Bitcointalk was and remains #1 in that aspect. I think Bitcoin StackExchange takes the second spot in terms of quality posts.
Personally, I agree with you, as I have yet to see such a friendly problem-solving platform. Here, if you need any help with kip to currency, experts come and present their opinions beautifully. Bitcointalk is not just about crypto. It's a hub of technological advancement. In my view, it's a one-stop solution for all system-related issues. Bitcoin's journey to the top is a testament to its continuous progress. Anyone who wants to know something can ask questions openly. Everyone presents and explains beautifully. Everyone is a hero on this forum, so there is no problem. This is a very interesting thing.

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June 07, 2024, 02:19:48 PM
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I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?

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In summary, I don't think there's nothing anybody can do to change the natural process the forum is passing through. In due time, more companies will see the importance of the forum and will surely consider the forum for their marketing, this will in turn bring more participants here.

I doubt that in the future, more companies will advertise here. Unless you are saying that more casinos will advertise here. Promotion is easier and reaches more targeted audiences in the social media than the forums. Casinos are promoting here because they are not allowed to promote in many social media platforms. The kind of projects that will come here to promote apart from the casinos should be related to cryptocurrency, such as exchanges, mixers etc. Mixers are gone from the forum and I do not expect any other signature campaign boom in the future unless mixers will return in the future.

Let's keep being here with passion and preserve the legacies of Satoshi Nakamato.

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June 07, 2024, 02:34:06 PM
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I doubt that in the future, more companies will advertise here. Unless you are saying that more casinos will advertise here. Promotion is easier and reaches more targeted audiences in the social media than the forums. Casinos are promoting here because they are not allowed to promote in many social media platforms. The kind of projects that will come here to promote apart from the casinos should be related to cryptocurrency, such as exchanges, mixers etc.
I don't know why social media platforms in Western countries don't allow casinos to promote on their platforms. Because in those countries, gambling industry is legal in most of nations. If their governments allow this industry by law, why they can not promote on social media.

Through the forum, I know that in Italy, gambling is not allowed or kind of restriction partially. In England, latest changes in policy don't allow gambling companies to advertise their brands in Premier League. Will it change in wider scale globally, it's really unknown future.

Are reasons of companies to advertise in Bitcoin forum because they are not allowed to do this on social media?
Not actually because I know many brands are advertise both on Bitcoin forum and on social media.

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June 07, 2024, 03:36:08 PM
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Given that the OP was registered in 2017, I assume that he means that period and the years after that - but the only thing that I miss a bit is the price of BTC, which was several times lower than today, which means that sig campaigns paid more in BTC. Some things are simply the past and you have to come to terms with that - maybe we should be happy that the forum still exists as it is.
Well, lets hope for the best. But things are changing, the crypto market and regulations are changing.
This easy btc we get here in services/reviews/sig may reduce even more in the future, or even disappear...
I think this place will always have technical discussions (just like stackoverflow or reddit), even if activity drops dramatically.


There is no doubt that nature does its part, just as the price of BTC affects how low or high the pay rates in sig campaigns will be. In other words, many of us will eventually disappear from the forum, and I wonder if we will be replaced by some new people or AI bot farms that will chase senseless bounty campaigns and try to see who can produce more posts in the shortest possible time.

Already now the number of posts created by AI has a high share on the forum, and if nothing else the forum was really better before this technology existed - at least we knew that we were dealing with pure human stupidity and not with people who are so stupid that they think that AI will make them smart.

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June 07, 2024, 04:39:55 PM
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I don't know why social media platforms in Western countries don't allow casinos to promote on their platforms. Because in those countries, gambling industry is legal in most of nations. If their governments allow this industry by law, why they can not promote on social media.
Based on the information I found, and I only checked for Facebook, businesses can advertise online casinos and online gambling in countries where such advertisement is legal. The advertised casinos probably need to be legit as well. But, they need to request permission to do so from Facebook and its owner company Meta. So, while it's allowed, Facebook and its owner need to approve the ads. My guess is that other social media platforms have similar rules.

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June 07, 2024, 06:26:04 PM
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Bitcointalk is as popular as before because there are some searches about Bitcoin, mining, and cryptocurrency that I will do on Google, and the results I get always point me to this forum.The only thing that has changed as per the last topic I read is that the number of posts on the forum has reduced from what it used to be in the past; some old, experienced members have left too; and some old signature campaigns have ended. An example is the CM campaign, and the best change that they just recently discontinued their campaign. If the existing members continue to improve in quality topics and discussions and if some old members continue spam bursting, then the forum will just be fine. 

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June 07, 2024, 08:27:10 PM
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Bitcointalk is as popular as before because there are some searches about Bitcoin, mining, and cryptocurrency that I will do on Google, and the results I get always point me to this forum.The only thing that has changed as per the last topic I read is that the number of posts on the forum has reduced from what it used to be in the past; some old, experienced members have left too; and some old signature campaigns have ended. An example is the CM campaign, and the best change that they just recently discontinued their campaign. If the existing members continue to improve in quality topics and discussions and if some old members continue spam bursting, then the forum will just be fine.
I do think as well that bitcointalk gets even more popular these days knowing bitcoin has become a hot topic in the social media. However, the sad part is that this forum has been full of spam posts because it’s obvious that newbies are mostly the thread openers these days, and creating some topics that are irrelevant to the forum. I’m not saying that newbies are no longer helpful in maintaining the good reputation of the forum, but if they will continue to make spam and off topic posts, I’m sure the forum will no longer attract new members that might somehow become the assets of the forum in the near future.

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June 07, 2024, 11:59:14 PM
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This forum is still very popular, and ranking very high in any Google search.
Just search for technical questions and topics, bitcointalk is always among the first results
What OP wants is just more money from signature campaigns.. which are a privilege,  not a metric of the success of the forum.


Is it just me or do I see more and more "old members" who think that the forum used to be better before than today? Better in what exactly? More spam, campaigns run by bots, plagiarism everywhere and ranking without merits...

Given that the OP was registered in 2017, I assume that he means that period and the years after that - but the only thing that I miss a bit is the price of BTC, which was several times lower than today, which means that sig campaigns paid more in BTC. Some things are simply the past and you have to come to terms with that - maybe we should be happy that the forum still exists as it is.
I believe despite of the negative feedback observed by OP, I still think that the forum today has gained more positive developments than it was before. So I can’t tell exactly that the forum is losing already its value and is less great today, although many have left but we still have a lot of reputable and experienced members to count on. And when it comes to the current contents of the posts these days, I can still see they are still relevant to what’s happening in the universe these days, except for some newbies who are raising irrelevant and low quality topics which I think they can still find ways to improve in the future.

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June 08, 2024, 07:20:40 AM
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The rise of instant messaging services?  Say what, now?  I will grant you that discussion forums have lost a lot of popularity over the years, but that's been because of social media sites like Facebook, Instagram, and all those other privacy-destroying, soul-sucking entities and not what I think you're referring to.  Jesus, I remember when IM became popular back in the AOL days, which was what, nearly 30 years ago?

What's keeping this forum "great" is primarily the existence of signature campaigns and whatever other ways to earn money there are, and the popularity of bitcoin in a distant second place.  What'd make bitcointalk great again is if all the morons who came here just to wear some advertising in their signature but can barely put together a sentence, much less write 140 characters (or whatever the minimum amount is for whatever campaign) of coherent thought, would just go the fuck away and never return.

But I've been railing against those degenerates since I registered, and nothing's changed much.  At least we've got the merit system that keeps account farmers in check.  Yay for that.

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June 08, 2024, 08:55:24 AM
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I believe despite of the negative feedback observed by OP, I still think that the forum today has gained more positive developments than it was before.
Biggest changes are years ago, in 2018 January and September with merit system launch and demotion on Junior members without 1 earned merit, respectively.

There are some more changes like Trust, Feedback, DT system and community-led developments with contributions from PowerGlove and his SMF patches. Bitcointalk's important historic changes has some information for you.

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So I can’t tell exactly that the forum is losing already its value and is less great today, although many have left but we still have a lot of reputable and experienced members to count on.
People have many reasons to leave like they are rich and want to enjoy their healthy lives without connection to Internet and the forum, or they got diseases, needed cure, passed away, or they felt boring with this forum and abandoned.

Oppositely there ware people joined recently who are future of the forum. I remember that o_e_l_e_o used to be a newbie like me in 2018 but after some years, he is recognized as one of forum legends with his deep technical knowledge. Members like him might appear in future, stay positively thinking but I know such gifted people don't appear too often.

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June 08, 2024, 03:52:00 PM
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There should be an entire board dedicated to gaming.

Some of the first people to mine bitcoin in history are gamers on their old-school gaming laptops back in the day.

Why is there no gaming board?

It's a massive part of internet culture, and bitcoin is money of the internet.

Many bitcoiners I know today are gamers and play games and use discord and all that.
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June 08, 2024, 04:42:48 PM
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. In this regard, I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
I don’t think we have any decline in the forum’s popularity because new members are joining the forum every day. Take a look at the beginner board, you will see that there are new members joining the forum everyday, this means people are knowing the forum everyday.
I will believe you that some users left the forum for good, while some users stop being active as they used to be just because of the end of mixer campaigns, but that did not stop them from sharing their contributions to the forum because most of them has already left so many important threads to remember in the various sections of the forum.

The messengers you are saying will never gain the traffic the forum will have because the forum is universal and have various sections to interact including using several languages in local bords.

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June 08, 2024, 07:35:22 PM
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In this regard, I would like to ask a question: what do you think needs to happen for our forum to become popular again?
Make it more open to discuss, share ideas, be able to criticize others no matter what the fu*k is their rank. Be yourself instead of being an ass sucker with the goal to rank high and become a DT member.

To many members use the forum to earn money instead of being selfless. Too many groupings. Too many power seekers looking for opportunity to show their power. Too many stalkers  stalking you to insult you either with a neutral tag or when they get a chance to give a red tag. The system is not bad but there are too many members who plans to use the system in their own favour and that is making things harder for low rank members and newbies, in some cases even high rank members who are independent and don't give a fu*k of any group.

It's a forum, not a corporate office where interns will be ragged by senior staffs. Stop the ragging culture, stalking culture, the forum will be a better place.

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June 08, 2024, 08:31:51 PM
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I don’t think we have any decline in the forum’s popularity because new members are joining the forum every day. Take a look at the beginner board, you will see that there are new members joining the forum everyday, this means people are knowing the forum everyday.
True, there are new members joining every day but problem is that not many of them actually stay on the forum for longer period of time and then add those old users who left or aren't as active as before and you get the current situation.

Afterall, you don't have to belive me or anyone else that says that there is a decline when you can simply head over to ninjastic.space and compare total number of posts in May 2024 with let's say May 202 and May 2022 and you will see what's the trend.  


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I don't feel like this forum has lost its popularity, at least since I was active from 2018 until now. Fluctuations in user activity can be said to be normal considering that this is a discussion forum that never binds any of its users. They may come and go and return whenever they want, but those who are interested in certain things will stay and continue their activities.

Most of the surviving users certainly have their own missions and plans. Maybe because of the business world or other reasons that support his efforts to make money. It doesn't have to be a signature campaign, of course others have their own reasons, including project development and whatever.

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June 08, 2024, 09:07:38 PM
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There has actually been some decline in the activeness of some prominent forum members since the ban of mixers in the forum; some of them left the forum entirely, while others are not active as they used to be.

The possible solution is that the current users should improvise by representing the prominent members that left by posting some quality posts and starting to give quality contributions, just as the past prominent members used to do, and we should make sure we are active and maintain the forum's reputation.

There should be an entire board dedicated to gaming.

Some of the first people to mine bitcoin in history were gamers on their old-school gaming laptops back in the day.

Why is there no gaming board?

It's a massive part of internet culture, and bitcoin is the money of the internet.

Many bitcoiners I know today are gamers and play games and use Discord and all that.
There is a section for gaming in the forum on the gambling board. You can also choose any betting platform that is being advertised in the forum to place your bet; most of them have Bitcoin payment methods for both deposit and withdrawal.

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June 09, 2024, 05:42:36 AM
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I would consider making Bitcointalk the best place to do business. We all see how many communication platforms are gradually gravitating towards greater convenience for business. For example, You Tube or Instagram would hardly have become so popular if it were not for the possibility of monetizing their content. Bitcointalk has a unique content monetization model. We just started talking about it, but for some reason we continue to be ashamed of it. Why is this so? This is not clear to me. Even bounty managers constantly remind you that the forum should be a hobby for you. But I think that we will face a gradual transformation in a completely different direction.

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I would consider making Bitcointalk the best place to do business. We all see how many communication platforms are gradually gravitating towards greater convenience for business. For example, You Tube or Instagram would hardly have become so popular if it were not for the possibility of monetizing their content. Bitcointalk has a unique content monetization model. We just started talking about it, but for some reason we continue to be ashamed of it. Why is this so? This is not clear to me. Even bounty managers constantly remind you that the forum should be a hobby for you. But I think that we will face a gradual transformation in a completely different direction.
Then you should create a business proposal for this forum, by explaining how to monetize it and what need to do to achieve it. Because you need to cooperate with the administrators, as they're the one who have a big impact and could make "this business" become successful.

But, I don't see theymos as someone who want to make this forum become business or he might be not interested with business, because he removed forum ads just because the forum already have enough money to fund the server and moderators. I'm not saying he's wrong though.

R


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