Fulfilling signature campaign post quota by recycling own posts

[morvillz7z]

Recycling your posts for sig pay is nothing new. We've seen it many times in the past. For the user in question, the number of recycled posts is simply absurd. They don't even try to delete and then repost, they just leave it be. Some posts are reposted more than a dozen times over the course of 5-6 months. Others are reposted the following week, sometimes within hours or even minutes. Truly shameless behavior.


Here are a few examples, there are MANY more...

Atalanta have been an improving side overtime. They've had some rough edges but their performance in the league is still seen. Even though they were not top trophy contenders, they have tried to stay in the domestic league instead of relegating. They played against Leverkusen in the final phase of the UEL and goodnews is they were been able to gather enough confidence and momentum for the game which put them in an advantageous spot of finishing with a tangible result regardless.

2024-06-02 20:47:26 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64162178
2024-05-22 16:35:08 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64111458
2024-05-21 10:58:33 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64105761
2024-05-19 18:55:18 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64098922
2024-05-18 16:38:38 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64094249
2024-05-16 17:09:04 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64085391
2024-05-12 16:25:57 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64067528
2024-05-11 13:33:13 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64062677
2024-04-19 22:40:58 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63968012
2024-04-18 22:03:13 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63963256
2024-04-17 15:11:23 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63956750
2024-04-11 16:21:41 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63932031
2024-04-10 21:34:53 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63928864
2024-04-09 20:21:33 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63924377
2024-04-03 18:39:40 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63897273
2024-03-27 19:41:42 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63866199
2024-03-23 17:15:28 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63847683
2024-03-20 17:54:21 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63833241
2024-03-19 13:46:23 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63827725
2024-01-27 15:51:59 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63567418

Lazio have not really been performing at the usual pace we all know them to be at. They've got more work to do on themselves. The threats are high no doubt. The league is getting tougher and it's difficult for them to meet up or bounce back to somewhere meaningful at the top. At least, they were in the Champions league, where they'd been able to prove their worth there buh odds for advanced for them was low. Their strength should just currently be majored on the Serie A league. They have to stay in the games and acquire meaningful points too.

2024-05-12 16:40:59 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64067586
2024-05-04 18:21:32 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64032720
2024-04-05 14:49:09 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63905495
2024-04-01 13:41:29 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63887169
2024-03-28 19:50:16 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63870750
2024-03-20 16:42:03 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63832911
2024-03-11 09:56:10 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63790008
2024-02-25 13:33:32 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63717699
2024-01-25 20:10:51 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63557660
2024-01-20 17:47:30 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63530402
2024-01-19 16:47:26 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63524843
2023-12-18 15:16:59 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63345561

Bellingham is a player who's got versatility in his palms, he's majored as a midfielder and does exceedingly well both at maintaining the mid pitch and heading upfront but that doesn't guarantee the fact that it's best to switch his usual position and experiment on giving him a new role. Since even as a midfielder, he finds comfort and ability to be versatile and it works well for him then it's best for a coach to maintain him on that grounds and keep basking in the good he's doing at that position.

2024-06-03 11:10:06 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64164208
2024-06-02 21:18:15 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64162297
2024-05-01 19:16:53 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64018616
2024-05-01 19:12:32 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/64018600
2024-04-02 23:08:17 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63893803
2023-12-10 20:38:27 UTC - https://ninjastic.space/post/63303631


Possibly my favorite one, this post is used twice in two different threads just 17 minutes apart:


Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions

The end of the season in football often brings a mix of anticipation. While some clubs secure their positions early on and sometimes choose to ease off in their final matches, others are still fighting hard for every little point that they can grasp. This creates a fascinating atmosphere where outcomes can be influenced by the mindset and strategy of the teams involved. Thiago Motta's approach with Bologna shows this, where despite their secure position, the need to increase performance to maintain their place in the top 5 is essential.

 The significance of the top 5 clubs in Serie A securing Champions League qualification is not lost, especially as new teams like Bologna and Atalanta promise to inject fresh energy into the competition. However, it's essential to acknowledge the aspirations of clubs like Roma, who may be out of the running for a top 5 spot but continue to strive for excellence. While the current point difference might seem unchangeable, it's these final matches that often define a team's character and set the path for future campaigns.

 Looking ahead, there's an expectation for Serie A representatives to step up their performance in the Champions League. While Napoli, Lazio, Milan, and Inter Milan may have fallen short this season, there's optimism for improvement in the coming campaigns. As the European football continues to evolve immensely, Serie A clubs have an opportunity to showcase their talent and challenge the traditional powerhouses for continental glory. With each season bringing new challenges, the stage is set for Italian football to make its mark on the greatest European contests.

Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

The end of the season in football often brings a mix of anticipation. While some clubs secure their positions early on and sometimes choose to ease off in their final matches, others are still fighting hard for every little point that they can grasp. This creates a fascinating atmosphere where outcomes can be influenced by the mindset and strategy of the teams involved. Thiago Motta's approach with Bologna shows this, where despite their secure position, the need to increase performance to maintain their place in the top 5 is essential.

 The significance of the top 5 clubs in Serie A securing Champions League qualification is not lost, especially as new teams like Bologna and Atalanta promise to inject fresh energy into the competition. However, it's essential to acknowledge the aspirations of clubs like Roma, who may be out of the running for a top 5 spot but continue to strive for excellence. While the current point difference might seem unchangeable, it's these final matches that often define a team's character and set the path for future campaigns.

 Looking ahead, there's an expectation for Serie A representatives to step up their performance in the Champions League. While Napoli, Lazio, Milan, and Inter Milan may have fallen short this season, there's optimism for improvement in the coming campaigns. As the European football continues to evolve immensely, Serie A clubs have an opportunity to showcase their talent and challenge the traditional powerhouses for continental glory. With each season bringing new challenges, the stage is set for Italian football to make its mark on the greatest European contests.

...I'd go on a limb and say this user hasn't created a single genuine/organic post in the last, say five months. Those three paragraphs, 200+ words, and 1400+ character walls of text just don't feel right to me.

This is a direct quote/reply to another user...if you read carefully, you'll find that it has the same meaning but is fluffed and paraphrased.

I will not be surprised by the results that Hoffenheim has obtained this season because this is not the first time and this team has also been one of the popular teams in the past that has managed to finish in the best position to get tickets to compete in other competitions such as the European league or European conference league.
but for Heidenheim what surprised me at first was that I didn't realize that this mediocre team had succeeded in getting a European conference league ticket and I think this was lucky for Heidenheim who took advantage of a good opportunity when this season there was no longer any big competition after Bayern Munich dominance had been destroyed by Leverkusen.
this season is very different from previous seasons because there are a lot of changes and this is the first season that I think looks like a surprise for some of the weak teams in the past and this season has had very good results.

in the next season Heidenheim will probably try to show its best performance in the European conference league and Hoffenheim will also try to struggle in the European league but to be honest I doubt Heidenheim in the next season will also fail again.
doesn't mean I'm underestimating but let's see what will happen if what I have said comes true but what is certain is that I believe Heidenheim will have problems arranging the match schedule.

The unexpected success of Hoffenheim and Heidenheim this season shows the unpredictable nature of football. Hoffenheim, regardless of their past achievements, continue to impress with their ability to compete at a high level and gain positions in European competitions. Their consistency over the years has kept their status as a competitive force in German football. Also, Heidenheim's rise to gain an European Conference League spot must have been surprising, considering their relatively modest status.

 Their achievement points out the importance of using opportunities in a season as unpredictable as the just concluded one. The different view of German football, particularly with Bayern Munich's dominance being challenged by other clubs like Leverkusen, has opened up opportunities for smaller teams like Heidenheim to shine. Heidenheim's success in seizing this chance demonstrates the resilience and determination of smaller clubs to make their mark on the footballing landscape.

 Looking ahead to the next season, both Hoffenheim and Heidenheim face new challenges and opportunities in their respective European campaigns. While Hoffenheim aims to continue their strong performances in the European League, Heidenheim will seek to make an impact in the European Conference League. However, with increased competition and the demands of European football, both clubs may encounter difficulties, particularly in managing their match schedules and balancing domestic and continental commitments. Nonetheless, their achievements this season serve as a testament to their capabilities and set the stage for exciting footballing endeavors in the future.

...and while their posts bypass most AI detection tools, i'm not convinced they're not computer generated. I discovered several artifacts that suggest otherwise.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456121.msg64157892#msg64157892

Of course in past, you can be able to compare the strengths of Real Madrid and Bayern because they used to be the power house of Europe. Real Madrid are one of the major power house of Europe and you can say they are able to perform on any stage across Europe as they have good quality of team to be able to break down any team.

2.⁠With the finals against Real Madrid, you can already say that Dortmund will be having a huge test to face against Real Madrid. This can simply mean or simply reinstate the fact that Real Madrid still remains the major power house of Europe. These teams have been able to build up a formidable team and that means coming up to the final means that they have been able to defeat and bring down all opponents.

 At this point, I’ll say that dishing out a prediction for the final can be pretty hard but I wouldn’t say its not possible because I’ll be giving my prediction based on form and experience. ⁠at this point, I’ll say Real Madrid have the better chance of getting to the finals as to any of the other two teams. Real Madrid are a very great team and they have the huge experience to be able to win this UCL trophy and of course they’ll win it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432944.msg64142032#msg64142032

The match between Al-Nassr and Al-Hilal is one final match that will be really fun to watch because of how many things will be at stake at that match as that could be Ronaldo’s first trophy since his move to Saudi. Both team have the advantages in this fixtures, but you can’t also overshadow on the weaknesses of the two teams as they can be punished for it. ⁠Al-Nassr will be anle to get the victory if they can take into very much advantage their attacking prowesss and be able to hurt Al-Hilal pretty early as that could be one destabilizing factor for Al-Hilal.

 The coach of Al-Nassr will need to employ a very wonderful tactics if he wants his team to come out victorious in this match because anything other than that could be pretty worrisome.
3. ⁠Al-Hilal have a very good defense and would be able to employ that against Al-Nassr attacking strength as they can be able to hold down Ronaldo especially as he will be the main man for Al-Nassr’s attack line.

 Well I would be expecting a different approach to the game from Al-Hilal as that could be what works for them heading to this match as bringing same tactics used in the league could prove destructive. These 2 teams have what it takes to hurt the other and that alone makes this match a real exciting one and I would love to see how it ends between both teams. I will be taking Ronaldo to at least be able to get silverware for his team by winning this final match.

ChatGPT often lists responses to prompts with "1." "2.", "3.", etc.  The "3." in the second post was noticed and removed by QueenVera within 4 seconds. I guess it was not supposed to be there. Lol


Anyway, i've notified their campaign manager and left them a neutral tag, though it probably deserves to be red.

[SamReomo]

It's the worst case of recycling one's own posts I have ever seen, in fact it's the first time I'm seeing someone doing something like that.

It's the worst thing someone can do with a campaign manager who trusted them by accepting such people in their managed campaigns.

I hope the campaign manager will take some action against that user and possibility remove him/her from campaign with some warning.

I personally have no rivalry with that user but whatever he/she does isn't right and I believe such type of members should get reported to campaign managers as soon as possible.

[Little Mouse]

I hope the campaign manager will take some action against that user and possibility remove him/her from campaign with some warning.

I personally have no rivalry with that user but whatever he/she does isn't right and I believe such type of members should get reported to campaign managers as soon as possible.

The problem with stake campaign is that they don't want to hire someone for managing their campaign. I have tried to reach them (I won't lie lol) but failed. They have hired some spammers in the campaign (not everyone). They don't give priority to quality, they only need quantity.

They must hire someone for managing the campaign. Or at least to monitor the participants and replacing the spammer. Don't know if they ever will decide to do so. I would gladly assist them if they would look for a campaign manager or at least an assistant for monitoring the participants but seems that's not going to happen anytime soon.

[dkbit98]

Good find morvillz7z.
I don't understand how any campaign manager is accepting and keeping participants like this  
This member earned neutral feedback from me, but I think that repeated spam behavior like this deserves even negative feedback and removal from all signature campaigns.

[SamReomo]

They have hired some spammers in the campaign (not everyone). They don't give priority to quality, they only need quantity.

Yes, there have been cases of many members of that campaign who were breaking the rules of the forum and doing things which this community doesn't accept. However, it's not possible for single person to look after all of those things and that's why spammers do their spamming activity without any fear.

They must hire someone for managing the campaign. Or at least to monitor the participants and replacing the spammer.

I believe a large campaign like Stake should have more than one manager or a manager with some assistants. There are some good members who are also part of that campaign but it's also a fact that some members of that campaign are taking advantage of the manger who's hiring them as participants.

It's a quite hard job to manage a campaign where most members have to make so many posts and for a single person it's not possible to go through all of the members and their posts to verify that are those posts legit or those are recycled ones or are AI generated ones.

[mindrust]

At least he is honest about it. When you had to post in the different topics with the same context over and over again for weeks, you’ll be eventually doing the same thing. By “same thing” I don’t mean what he did exactly, we all are doing a variant of what he is doing.

Maybe we don’t copy paste our old posts like him but we are pretty much doing the same thing when we write another post about:

“Which alts are the best?”
“Who will win the presidential race?”
“How to become a good trader?”
“Are meme coins gud?”
…

It is because we already talked about these topics a million times before but we still see another topic asking the same thing :d

[examplens]

At least he is honest about it. When you had to post in the different topics with the same context over and over again for weeks, you’ll be eventually doing the same thing. By “same thing” I don’t mean what he did exactly, we all are doing a variant of what he is doing.

Maybe we don’t copy paste our old posts like him but we are pretty much doing the same thing when we write another post about:

A few years ago, spammers like QueenVera would not be tolerated for long.
Do you remember the @Limx dev's case, when he was banned because he reposted the same post, although it was an announcing update or an airdrop?

[JeromeTash]

Can someone tell my such a user shouldn't be tagged (negatively) for spamming. I mean, they are literary cheating the campaign that is hiring them by recycling posts. This is similar to some chap who decided to make reserve posts prior to pay day deadline, and then he would later edit the posts to make the longer so that they can be counted

I think such people should be tagged, and I am about to do so. Just seeking out some opinions from other members.

[morvillz7z]

It's funny, they've made four new posts since this topic was created, i shit you not all four are reposts. I'm starting to think this account is 100% botted. 

I believe a large campaign like Stake should have more than one manager or a manager with some assistants. There are some good members who are also part of that campaign but it's also a fact that some members of that campaign are taking advantage of the manger who's hiring them as participants.

It's a quite hard job to manage a campaign where most members have to make so many posts and for a single person it's not possible to go through all of the members and their posts to verify that are those posts legit or those are recycled ones or are AI generated ones.

I vaguely remember coming around a screenshot of that particular signature campaign in which participants' posts were reviewed and rated by different people. I mean, how could you miss it? It's blatant right in your face stuff. How can you miss it if you read/check their posts every week instead of just count and pay, right? It's been going on for such a long time.


If anyone is in contact with Carollzinha, please send them a link to this thread. I see they haven't logged into their account for over a week now.

[QueenVera]

I'm disappointed at myself and I don't want to come here defending myself as it mightn't change anything from what is being written about me but I just want to let my conscious clear that at least I tried my best. I only have some points I want to defend, I write on my notepad before responding on the forum and I see there is a mistake by me posting the same post on two different threads, I didn't intend to do that on purpose and I'm willing to return the money made on that post if that is possible. I didn't know the second post I wanted to copied didn't copy correctly and I was still with the old posts. I do not think this has happened before therefore it was a honest mistake but I know nobody will believe me since I'm not in the best position to plead my honesty but I'm sorry for this mistake and I'm willing to do anything it takes to rectify myself.

I put numbers on the post I want to respond to and delete them before I post them on the forum but sometimes I can make a mistake to leave them there after posting. If I come across the mistakes I could delete it as the numbers aren't important in the replies but they are only there as I mark them for me to know the replies that I'm responding to. The numbers aren't there as it was posted by an AI but just a way I use to know which reply that I'm responding to and how I position my replies to make it make sense.

I love Atalanta and I would have unconsciously used the same words again and again and possibly use the same opening sentence but I plead with everyone that I'll look for other sentence and words to use to experience my feelings. We are discussing sports and the discussion aren't that different, we are mostly discussing the same thing on different instances and when I join the discussions, I might repeat my words but I try to add something else to the discussion. The first lines or paragraphs would had sound or look the same but I try to bring something different in the other paragraph. It might not work out as I visualize in my head but I don't use AI for posting or plagiarised. I'm sorry as it was never an intended offense and don't mind getting punished for it but please know that i never intended it to cause a mess in the forum and I'll be better please.

[GeorgeJohn]

I hope the campaign manager will take some action against that user and possibility remove him/her from campaign with some warning.

I personally have no rivalry with that user but whatever he/she does isn't right and I believe such type of members should get reported to campaign managers as soon as possible.

The problem with stake campaign is that they don't want to hire someone for managing their campaign. I have tried to reach them (I won't lie lol) but failed. They have hired some spammers in the campaign (not everyone). They don't give priority to quality, they only need quantity.

They must hire someone for managing the campaign. Or at least to monitor the participants and replacing the spammer. Don't know if they ever will decide to do so. I would gladly assist them if they would look for a campaign manager or at least an assistant for monitoring the participants but seems that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Many people have been complaining of the management of the campaign, is like the management lack attention to their participants and secondly they have higher number of participants which I know very well that may be the result of not figuring out people who is not taking the campaign serious.

Theirs one certain period i encounter a place they said that they have a team that do grading to their participants, so their is a team I don't think they will be having numbers of low quality posters, let them hire a reputable members of this forum that will help them for grading posts made by the participants...if stake reduced the number of post quota, participants who is involve there will make a quality post. The problem come from the tax they give to their participants as weekly post, they should minimize their post to 30 post weekly.

[Solosanz]

They must hire someone for managing the campaign. Or at least to monitor the participants and replacing the spammer. Don't know if they ever will decide to do so. I would gladly assist them if they would look for a campaign manager or at least an assistant for monitoring the participants but seems that's not going to happen anytime soon.

They actually have 4 persons who monitor the participants since 2 years ago, guess what? they give good ratings to QueenVera, Adrian aka one of the reviewer said this week QueenVera is a good poster.

How can one of them didn't notice if QueenVera recycled own posts when they're reviewing his post every week, it's surprising morvillz7z who're not the reviewer can notice this lol.

 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14VXHQRQBbRVz_QXGz6dSjvtZZ7VCTksk1jfW6AdsrkY/edit#gid=2095975102

I think this is how the Stake's reviewers looks like during reviewing the participants.

[dkbit98]

It's funny, they've made four new posts since this topic was created, i shit you not all four are reposts. I'm starting to think this account is 100% botted.  

It's not impossible that farmed accounts are using some scripts and semi-automatic bot replies.

It might not work out as I visualize in my head but I don't use AI for posting or plagiarised. I'm sorry as it was never an intended offense and don't mind getting punished for it but please know that i never intended it to cause a mess in the forum and I'll be better please.

There was a clear intention with all your actions, but I am sure you will move on business as usual with your other alt accounts, forget about this one for any future campaigns.
I hope you learned your lesson.

How can one of them didn't notice if QueenVera recycled own posts when they're reviewing his post every week, it's surprising morvillz7z who're not the reviewer can notice this lol.

I think problem is much bigger than just one member spamming and recycling his posts, and I wouldn't be surprised if others are doing something similar.
Gambling board needs cleaning.

[Dave1]

The problem with Stake or at least the manager and those who are reviewing the posts of their participants is that they don't know what to look at their signature participants. They even defending participants that posted long sentences and paragraphs because that's what the campaign manager wanted to see. The longer the post, the better for them.

Them even don't look at the merits as they say that there could be participants that posted good but was not merited by the members here. And I don't think that they are going to hire a campaign manager from this community who has the experience to grade the participants.

[lovesmayfamilis]

We have seen similar excuses more than once when spammers write that they first create messages in a notepad and then publish them on the forum.

I write on my notepad before responding on the forum and .....

I use my notepad to first type my reply before taking it to the forum to post, so most times I have already written all my replies then I come straight to the forum to post them and I hope that isnt spamming,

But if we assume that managers of signature companies will at some point prohibit publishing posts after the fifth or even tenth page without turning topics into megathreads, then such actions with preliminary posts will be difficult to carry out.
Why not communicate normally, as usual, without turning the forum into some kind of academy or school, with homework and typing posts in advance? I opened the forum and wrote a response, and that’s it.
You shouldn’t go to fortune-tellers and say that when posts are prepared in advance, it means that there are still accounts that are in a hurry just to make money, forgetting about ordinary communication.

[LoyceV]

Can someone tell my such a user shouldn't be tagged (negatively) for spamming.

See:

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

They actually have 4 persons who monitor the participants since 2 years ago, guess what? they give good ratings to QueenVera, Adrian aka one of the reviewer said this week QueenVera is a good poster.

Stake "campaign managers" have a very weird way of determining post "quality". It's certainly not in the interest of the forum. This topic is over 5 years old: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.

[examplens]

Can someone tell my such a user shouldn't be tagged (negatively) for spamming.

See:

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

This is not usually spam. He posted the same content in 38 posts, at least this is what morvillz7z found. He was certainly quite aware of what he was doing and his explanation that he accidentally copied from a notepad is a poor attempt at justification. You can make the same mistake once or twice, but not 38 times.
I see this as a red tag.

I would also like to hear how these four Stake managers see the whole matter.

[NotATether]

The problem with stake campaign is that they don't want to hire someone for managing their campaign. I have tried to reach them (I won't lie lol) but failed. They have hired some spammers in the campaign (not everyone). They don't give priority to quality, they only need quantity.

They must hire someone for managing the campaign. Or at least to monitor the participants and replacing the spammer. Don't know if they ever will decide to do so. I would gladly assist them if they would look for a campaign manager or at least an assistant for monitoring the participants but seems that's not going to happen anytime soon.

I think they got their manager from in-house. But it would be better if they asked one of the legendary campaign managers to handle the campaign instead, since it clearly looks like it's getting overrun with spammers.

In fact, wasn't this campaign banned before for this exact reason? Or was it another campaign I am thinking about? (I am not talking about YoBit - I already know about that one - but I specifically remember that there was an old version of the Stake campaign that got banned for spam.)

[LoyceV]

This is not usually spam. He posted the same content in 38 posts

I'd say that's exactly what spammers do.

I would also like to hear how these four Stake managers see the whole matter.

Wild guess: they don't care.

[lovesmayfamilis]

It's the worst case of recycling one's own posts I have ever seen, in fact it's the first time I'm seeing someone doing something like that.

Haven't you read these threads? Looks like someone is just adopting this behavior.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283810.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5320033.0