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June 06, 2024, 05:59:21 AM
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There was a chaos in yobit.net signature campaign as far as I can remember but were they banned here? I can't remember.
Has it ever happened that due to spamming, theymos banned any signature?

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Here's the post, but I don't know exactly on that time.

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

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June 06, 2024, 06:10:06 AM
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Each person has a different definition of spam. Each manager is different as well. You've hired spammers, I've hired spammers, everyone has had a few. Just report the posts you feel are spam and if they see enough reports, i'm sure the hammer will drop on some participants. If enough get banned a warning might be sent to the company before any bans happen to them.

I really don't think trying to get a company banned is a good thing though. Last resort maybe, but def not the 1st step IMO.

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June 06, 2024, 06:10:40 AM
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When people complained on an unfair ban on Yobit, hilariousandco explained that if they repeat their free, automatic campaign, without representative to manage their campaign on the forum, they and their participants can be banned a long time.

It's not. Never has been. It's a centralised forum with rules and anyone can be banned for breaking them.

If the spam is the same then I'm sure they'll get another ban with a longer duration.

Yobit spam was far more intense and has easily been the worst campaign the forum has seen for quite some time, but the damage they did in such a short amount of time was ridiculous. They had no manager at all and accepted anyone and as such it was quickly exploited. Stake isn't much better but I would support a Stake ban if they don't clean up their campaign asap.

Why did you ask this Little_Mouse?

Any spam campaign in your thinking that needs to be temporary banned as a warning to wake their managers and participants up and need better management?

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June 06, 2024, 06:30:55 AM
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Why did you ask this Little_Mouse?

Any spam campaign in your thinking that needs to be temporary banned as a warning to wake their managers and participants up and need better management?
It could probably be because of QueenVera which was caught with massive spamming recently. I do not know but this could be close to it because it was known in less than 24 hours from when I posted this and what I could think of.

What that I know is that there are spammers and those that plagiarized contents that are seen in many campaigns but which the campaign manager will later remove or which the forum will ban.

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June 06, 2024, 06:54:33 AM
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There was a chaos in yobit.net signature campaign as far as I can remember but were they banned here? I can't remember.
Has it ever happened that due to spamming, theymos banned any signature?
This is a good topic for discussion, and base on my knowledge about how signature campaign works her on this forum, I think spam regulation is a work which ought to be done by the campaign manager, and not the campaign itself. Hence, if a campaign is noticed to have much spammers than quality posters, then the manager is ought to be blame, and not the campaign itself, because the aim/objectives of signature campaigns is to get exposure, whereas that of signature managers is to operate according to the forum standard of spam elimination. Hence, if a signature campaign is noticed to have lots of spammers, then the campaign manager is to be blame and warned.

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There was a chaos in yobit.net signature campaign as far as I can remember but were they banned here? I can't remember.
Has it ever happened that due to spamming, theymos banned any signature?

I think that to ban the company or campaign, it would be necessary for the company or campaign to be the one promoting this spam situation.

Fortunately, I think all campaigns have promoted contrary ideas. Except for those campaigns that want to see posts in gaming and gambling locations. However, this is another level of the issue, which is not generalized throughout the forum, and is concentrated in a specific place in the forum, prepared for this purpose.

Therefore, if things do not change much from what has been happening, it is not something that will happen.

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There was a chaos in yobit.net signature campaign as far as I can remember but were they banned here? I can't remember.
Has it ever happened that due to spamming, theymos banned any signature?
Well how inappropriate, it's seem you are really desperate to bang a job with stake.com because I know very well that this is due to the queenvera issue and also your desperate attempt to be noticed by the stake.com team and since you have ignored, you now feel its right to come outright that some penalty be given to the whole campaign? Isn't?

Well you can try, but to clear you the stake team would never need your so called managerial skills and not to say you are probably one of the forum worse campaign manager (and your friend@shemale of the forum). Some of you Manager's are so full yourself feeling you can do a better job than what stake is already offering. Well there is no doubt that the user Queenvera has to be penalized for the abrupt rubbish that he did but coming out for the whole campaign is something else.

Little mouse why don't you clean your own buttocks before seeking to clean others, because you are not a saint in hiring full time shitposters yourself, I mean it's very clear that the forum now is filled with these so called shitposters but that doesn't mean you haven't hiring users that are also quality posters or can you boldly claim that you haven't hired any user who turned out to be banned or tag after or was working on your managed campaigns?.

So far from what I have seen here  you can actually count out any signature campaign from having one or two spammers on their list not even the ones painted with so much glamour.
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There was a chaos in yobit.net signature campaign as far as I can remember but were they banned here? I can't remember.
Has it ever happened that due to spamming, theymos banned any signature?
Good question.
It is not always company advertising some service that should be blamed for spamming in forum, in some cases campaign managers should be temp-banned for accepting and keeping spammers in their campaigns.
They are not only hurting service they are working with them but they are making all other bitcointalk forum members look bad.

I've hired spammers, everyone has had a few.
So you are admitting of hiring spammers in campaigns and you think this is ok  Roll Eyes

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Spammers should be reported. Maybe someone can keep a list of these spammers in a thread. The campaign manager's attention should be called to it. Unrepentant spammers should be removed from whatever campaign they are in. If no step is taken from the managers after calling their attention to it, then the forum's administration should step in and do what is best. There should be some rules about it. If there is none then one has to be written.

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June 06, 2024, 07:21:15 AM
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I really don't think trying to get a company banned is a good thing though. Last resort maybe, but def not the 1st step IMO.
Come on yahoo, people who knows me well would never think that I'm thinking of getting stake sig banned lol. I have prepared a proposal which I sent to stake.com, I used yobit as an example. I don't have time to look for specific user and report their post. I only report posts which I read while participating in a discussion.



Well how inappropriate, it's seem you are really desperate to bang a job with stake.com because I know very well that this is due to the queenvera issue and also your desperate attempt to be noticed by the stake.com team and since you have ignored, you now feel its right to come outright that some penalty be given to the whole campaign? Isn't?
Am I desperate to take a job with stake? Maybe, yes.
Do I want to penalize the whole campaign? No, I have attached a proof.

I want peace, not a war, dude. I didn't even directly propose myself to takeover the job. I proposed them a mutual team work which would benefit them for getting a better quality participants. I know I dont owe these explanation but as I told, I want peace not war.

I try my best to filter out the spammer. Now, if we summarize who is spammer and who isn't then we will come up with a huge number but you know there's a tolerate level or minimum standard in the forum and I try to ensure the minimum standard of the forum. Feel free to report any spammer in my campaign. My DM is always open for such kind of well wisher. I'll gladly take all the suggestion and try to act accordingly if the suggestion makes sense.


Edit- Quite strange how everyone summarize that I wanted to get stake sig a ban lol.

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Edit- Quite strange how everyone summarize that I wanted to get stake sig a ban lol.

That's literally the big picture you were painting but since you have said "peace and no war " I think I will hold my horses here.
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yobit.net was an exceptional case because they did not care about who was accepted or the quality of the posts, but they were not banned, as the campaign continued to advertise even after those accounts were banned.

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June 06, 2024, 07:54:16 AM
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yobit.net was an exceptional case because they did not care about who was accepted or the quality of the posts, but they were not banned, as the campaign continued to advertise even after those accounts were banned.
There was a 60-day temporary ban for any signature containing yobit.net link.

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Am I desperate to take a job with stake? Maybe, yes.
Do I want to penalize the whole campaign? No, I have attached a proof.
Something I appreciate you for the fee I do read from you, how you state your truth and make it look simple. Even when some would hope you wouldn’t accept the obvious since all that could be needed is just a statement but, that too could be discredited by the other party who holds the other end of the whip.

So, the maybe and the No, does go.

The light in which this is coming might not be so bright but as I see it, it was an open end discussion but, with the forum been a box full of intellects, dots would be connected, inferences would be made and some positive relativism would be generated as well as some negations. All you could do is accept what you will and clear up on the negations.

I try my best to filter out the spammer. Now, if we summarize who is spammer and who isn't then we will come up with a huge number but you know there's a tolerate level or minimum standard in the forum and I try to ensure the minimum standard of the forum.
It’s largely what shouldn’t be as, it would confine what is acceptable, don’t give room for creativity and this could apply in a wide range too. Just a matter of getting few piece to make sense, a foe to case to case judgements.

Feel free to report any spammer in my campaign. My DM is always open for such kind of well wisher. I'll gladly take all the suggestion and try to act accordingly if the suggestion makes sense.

Edit- Quite strange how everyone summarize that I wanted to get stake sig a ban lol.
This remains a strategy come up with campaign managers that ought to work, especially when the evidence is overwhelming but, I don’t know what the responses are like though, I’ve seen some managers action reports as they are received. I wouldn’t name names but yeah, it’s a nice way to handle spam and spammers too, even as you report them posts to moderators.



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yobit.net was an exceptional case because they did not care about who was accepted or the quality of the posts, but they were not banned, as the campaign continued to advertise even after those accounts were banned.
There was a 60-day temporary ban for any signature containing yobit.net link.
So, is it correct to take it as a reference, especially since the campaign has returned and continued?
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So, is it correct to take it as a reference, especially since the campaign has returned and continued?
If there is an overwhelming number of spamming in stake campaigns, will theymos still give them a pass? I wanted to show stake what such a campaign can cause to them, their reputation. Anyway, that's something else we are getting directed now.

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If there is an overwhelming number of spamming in stake campaigns, will theymos still give them a pass?
They've gotten away with spamming for years, and it has been a lot worse than it is now. So I don't expect any action to be taken against them.

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So I don't expect any action to be taken against them.
Neither do I but it can happen if the spam gets increased over time.

I wanted to show them what can happen for not managing a campaign properly but people took this into a different discussion.

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If there is an overwhelming number of spamming in stake campaigns, will theymos still give them a pass? I wanted to show stake what such a campaign can cause to them, their reputation. Anyway, that's something else we are getting directed now.
I do not know the level of spam in gambling board (because I ignore it,) but some solutions are useful, such as:

 - Prepare an ignore list and ask members to add those accounts to that ignore list.
 - Report any spamming account, and collect them in one topic.
 - If you get good spam reports from most members, then sig will be banned for breaking the forum rules.

Something like AI Spam Report Reference will give good and fast results.
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