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June 24, 2024, 11:03:51 PM
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Taxes are income retrieved from workers monthly to contribute to the account of the country for the development of the country as well but we are not seeing much of these taxes and the area they are being used all the government could do is to impose heavy taxes on especially private owned businesses.

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June 25, 2024, 10:57:17 PM
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It is not really a situation where the government is waiting for people to become rich, before they are taxed.. they simply tax rich people more to help them to pay their salaries and also to help them to pay for services that they need to render to the community.

Who will fund these services, if the rich are not helping to pay for these services?
But even if the laws states that the rich should pay high taxes, due to their wealth they can use all kind of tricks to pay way less taxes than what they should, this is a problem that has existed for a long time and governments are trying to combat it, but since the rich also give money to politicians to get elected, this means that whatever laws that are passed with this purpose are left with a lot of loopholes which can be exploited by the rich.
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June 27, 2024, 07:15:02 PM
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The ones at the top and at the bottom aren't heavily impacted by taxes. The middle classes are. The government protects the richest, because if regulators introduce tax policy against them, their wealth leaves the country immediately to a more friendly country which won't charge them at all... Meanwhile, the poors don't have much to contribute and heavily rely on welfare programs to survive, so the final burden is carried by the middle classes, who are the most prejudiced ones, since they want to work and thrive, but find many obstacles on the way, because the government sabotages them all the time through abusive taxes.

As far as I've seen, countries haven't managed to get rid of this vicious cycle yet. Here in my country, officially, around 40% of the yearly income of an average citizen returns to the government through taxes. That is insane, and for much less we already had armed revolts in a far historical past against the imperial government.
This is very correct, and unfortunately it is making middle class live like poor of the old days as well. If you are in the USA and making 40k a year, then you are poor, and you do not pay that much taxes and government doesn't "benefit" from you, if you are making a million dollars a month, you could protect it in a hundred different ways, but if you are someone who makes about 10k a month, which is 120k, you are not poor, but you are not "that" rich neither, so they tax you to hell, and you can't afford a decent house most of the time because of it.

I believe that we are going to end up with rich people eventually getting a bit more taxed, because the current system is not sustainable, and there won't be any other method left even if they want to avoid taxing the rich.

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June 27, 2024, 08:29:24 PM
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I do not know about other countries but in my country, politics has compromised the economy growth with equity.
As the transition of power evolves, the value of the citizens are depreciated in the eyes of the governments which now optimizes citizens to rely living in fortitude of bravery and accepting challenges so that we don't give it all up hopelessly.

We fight it out by ourselves like there is no government to provide us with some basic amenities and quite better to be called "a daylight robbery or extortion" that once individuals has struggled to make productive differences from the economy slavery chain of the government, you would be will assigned to revenue on taxations.

My question.... If the government could find utilizations on the citizens for taxations on generating funds for infrastructures and other government services , why don't they invest on the citizens or support those with the potentials to productiveness knowing quite well that once they makes success, they would be demanded to also contributed to the growing structures of the economy?
What the government knows is that if a successful individual refuses to comply with the government order, they will get you frustrated tending to fold your productiveness qualities or you go to jail.

So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.

We do know that when it comes to taxation then they would really be surely focusing into those big fish or something that would be giving out results in a short period time rather than they would really be making out some considerations on taking up some focus into its citizens on which they dont even know if these people would really be that paying up their taxes on the moment that they would really be landing with their own jobs and other things that they are getting involved into. This is why they wont really be wasting up those funds to be that putting up focus into its citizens. They will really be surely sticking into those things on which they do know that they could really be able to take advantage with. This is why on the moment that they would really be needing up to choose then it would be understandable with that obvious thing.

It is really just that sad that they would really be focusing into those single point but still not all places or countries wont really be that having that kind of priority in towards into their
citizens on which there are indeed places that do really give out that benefit.

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June 27, 2024, 08:49:42 PM
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I do not know about other countries but in my country, politics has compromised the economy growth with equity.
As the transition of power evolves, the value of the citizens are depreciated in the eyes of the governments which now optimizes citizens to rely living in fortitude of bravery and accepting challenges so that we don't give it all up hopelessly.

We fight it out by ourselves like there is no government to provide us with some basic amenities and quite better to be called "a daylight robbery or extortion" that once individuals has struggled to make productive differences from the economy slavery chain of the government, you would be will assigned to revenue on taxations.

My question.... If the government could find utilizations on the citizens for taxations on generating funds for infrastructures and other government services , why don't they invest on the citizens or support those with the potentials to productiveness knowing quite well that once they makes success, they would be demanded to also contributed to the growing structures of the economy?
What the government knows is that if a successful individual refuses to comply with the government order, they will get you frustrated tending to fold your productiveness qualities or you go to jail.

So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.

In my country, the situation is completely different. The government gives privileges to very poor people (those on social welfare) but taxes poor people (those not on social welfare). Middle-class is doing well, self-employed people don't pay taxes and the other part has high salaries that are enough to have a normal life. The rich people have a real heaven here because they don't pay taxes, get many benefits from banks, many discounts on lounges, hotels, gyms, swimming pools and etc... Rich people pay 1% tax sometimes, recently the government was considering to offer them tax free money transfer from offshore zones. Life is different everywhere, it's not like government waits for you to get rich, I would say that it's the quite opposite, once you become rich, you have more power and influence and government respects you more.

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June 28, 2024, 06:18:33 PM
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Taxes are general, put on basic things like, income, purchases, social amenities, so rich or not rich everyone pays taxes. In most cases as one gets richer they get more financially aware and can afford to use tax loopholes that exist, meaning the not so rich may be paying more in taxes relative to what they are earning.

The rules may be flipped in your country depending on what economic policies are in place, but for majority of countries, taxes are paid across the board.

I agree with you, whether you are rich or poor you must pay taxes, taxes are meant for everyone, not those who have become rich, everybody individual in the country needs to pay their taxes because according to the law, everyone is equal, no any citizen is going to complain that he or she don’t have money and can’t pay taxes because even when the government when to provide for the country it is being provided to both poor and rich people, if it was the rich people that suppose to pay taxes that means the poor people don’t need to complain about the government and when people are talking about government they shouldn’t talk because they don’t use to pay taxes, I don’t know about another people’s country but in my country taxes is being paid by every individual and it is compulsory for everyone.

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June 28, 2024, 07:10:58 PM
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So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.

The tax system for governments says if you are making money from there system, it's a must that you have to give them some % of what you earn, that's what the government does. So, the poor people don't earn from the system, how do you expect the government to tax people who are barely trying to survive and get some food to feed their self and their families, it will be so wicked of the government to tax the poor who don't have basic amenities of the government.

If a government give you in the left, you will surely give them some in their right hand and that's how it has been since democratic system, even before them there were tax from people and those were even worse than now because either you are poor or rich, earn less or more, you will be forced to give money to the government and if you don't, you will be punished but all those are things of the past.

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June 28, 2024, 08:08:55 PM
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Taxes are general, put on basic things like, income, purchases, social amenities, so rich or not rich everyone pays taxes. In most cases as one gets richer they get more financially aware and can afford to use tax loopholes that exist, meaning the not so rich may be paying more in taxes relative to what they are earning.

The rules may be flipped in your country depending on what economic policies are in place, but for majority of countries, taxes are paid across the board.

Plot twist, they aren't earning anything. What now? You get a millionaire who has 10m in the bank and he inherited all of it. He leaves his job and spends every day sunbathing, playing golf and driving expensive cars. How will you get him to pay tax if he doesn't have income anymore?
Another situation that comes to my mind. A millionaire hires himself and gives himself a minimum wage. He's the CEO but gets what inexperienced workers get so that he doesn't have to pay any taxes, since you based all of it on income Wink

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June 28, 2024, 08:36:55 PM
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The government never waits for you to become rich to require you to pay taxes - as long as you are one of the individuals who pay taxes, they will ask you to pay it. The government is too good at taking advantage of its cityzen, isn't it?

So far the government has taken several positive approaches regarding the legality of crypto trading and investment. Their target is to get tax revenue from you - it's already in place so you have to pay tax on your investment and trading profits.

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June 28, 2024, 09:36:27 PM
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There is some certain country that is not civilized that is why some countries is lacking behind because they don't know the methodology they will apply in order to boost their economy so if a wrong group or people is piloting the affairs of the country it is obvious that that country will be I'm Anarchy in terms of infrastructure and also in economy of that particular country, because that's what we call human development if government have a good leaders who is governing the people with interest of love and peace and unity I think they will be empowerment of human capital that will help to sustain the economy of that country, but currently government does not like to associate or empower people because there are there for their own selfish interest not for the interest of the masses



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