I'm surprised this hobby and genre of crypto collectibles isn't more popular

[MoparMiningLLC]

6. What am I missing?

I would say the massive amount of BTC that has been scammed by shady people selling loaded collectibles is what keeps this hobby from being taken seriously.  Not to mention creators that don't scam their customers are attacked by alt accounts of other creators in an attempt to funnel customers away from them leaving new users unsure of who can be trusted.  Just look at the people who leave me negative trust feedback for selling $100 coins that are backed by an entire organization and community of people which also accumulate BTC, but leave positive trust to folks like Bitcoin Penny who stole from their customers and are now selling $30 pieces of silver backed by nothing that don't accumulate anything or even have holograms for $150!  Not to shit on BCP, but that's just one example of the hypocrisy here that a compromised trust network has fostered.  Until it's more clear who can be trusted and who is just trying to get some easy USD pretending to be friends with users here in chat rooms all day to fleece their "friends" with overpriced goods, I think this hobby will continue to struggle.  Just my $0.02 as someone who has been heavily involved in this trade for more than 13 years.

maybe you have missed the red trust that has been left against him? or the flag that was raised? as for your coins accumulating Bitcoin - they do indeed or rather your address accumulates and if we reach threshhold (after another 15-20 years) you will pay out to our address. Mine has been accumulating for 3 years and I am at less than 6% of the way to reaching the minimum for distribution. So, if I am lucky and based on the average gains, I should reach payout in another 94 years - in which time we will be dead and you will never have to make the distribution and whoever gains your Bitcoin will not have to worry about the seats - they can just spend it.  I bought the coins to go in my collection because they are historical alright. Historical in recording the ponzi.

[YodasRedRocket]

 There was a guy here selassie soldier? who is planning on opening one in FLorida someday.

  I have even donated some of my CypherHodl items just for the museum, including a Smart Contract Timelock Clock redeemable in the year 2100 

  Also, with the fallout of Skamkey I have seen OG's selling their Bitbills and Cas coins.

  I think that is a big factor in people making any decisions from getting into our hobby...especially with the high end loaded items.

  

Sadly, the last time I remember Selassie posting was when I was new to this forum & he got scammed with a fake listing of a Denarium Gold Parity coin. 

[Eclipse33]

Why is the hobby not more popular?

From my interactions with people out in the world, I find that many people are simply not ready for anything remotely related to do with crypto.

Many people are very accustomed and used to the working of the fiat system. It may take a death of a generation for crypto tech to catch on and be used widely.

Many people lack basic computer literacy skills, like IP addresses, the parts of a computer, computer software.

Attempting to teach someone who barely knows how to use a computer to begin-with how to use a non cusodial wallet and send complex trasactions is a massive challenge.

Crypto will only catch on after people make a decision to begin educating themselves on the subject matter. Until then the fiat system will remain prevailant.

[bitbollo]

other factors must be taken into account.

It's not easy to become a collector. many of us come from other fields (numismatic, philatelic etc - my username has "bollo" inside. this is not casual = francobollo). many other bitcoiners, although in love with the technology and the world behind it, simply do not want to spend money on crypto-themed objects.

that's another factor. the cost.
when I started interfacing in this world/forum M. Caldwell was still active on this forum.
But I would never have bought one of his products because with that premium I would have simply invested that amount in the direct purchase of coins...
my fault. the same I had with bitcoin, it took me a long time to understand the innovation/vault of these stuffs.

Some time ago I also posted a similar thread, wondering why art galleries "snub" our sector.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5497101.msg64100969#msg64100969
and considering that I care much more about values ​​and certain ideals, I am organizing at my own expense here in Italy a 3-day exhibition/conference in which to talk about bitcoin/crypto collectibles themed objects (last weekend of September)

I will give you all the details in the next few days, we are finalizing the contract with the art gallery.
Meanwhile I have reached some fellow collectors and artists, more to come...

[tread93]

I think a physical in person art gallery of physical btc coins, if advertised correctly could grow the demand 10X over night for sure. Imo

been a dream of mine since 2021 - I just simply aint that rich lol

security would be the biggest cost, but to se something up to have it at the bitcoin conference would be amazing, just like they do the mini art gallery, maybe next year we can throw something together, I would love to display my collection, its super eclectic

They did have an epic showcasing of Cass coins at Bitcoin 2021 Miami & I think that definitely garnered a lot of interest in the space, I forgot about the physical showings of these I need to add that one to the list. I snapped a photo and Chibitcty posted it onto his physicalcryptocurrency account a while back if you want to dig down and look at that. It was truly quite the display. There was a comment that there needs to be a new encyclopedia made and I couldn't agree more with that as so many new coins have come out of the wood works since the last one was made. I wonder if Elias will ever update?

[MoparMiningLLC]

other factors must be taken into account.

It's not easy to become a collector. many of us come from other fields (numismatic, philatelic etc - my username has "bollo" inside. this is not casual = francobollo). many other bitcoiners, although in love with the technology and the world behind it, simply do not want to spend money on crypto-themed objects.

that's another factor. the cost.
when I started interfacing in this world/forum M. Caldwell was still active on this forum.
But I would never have bought one of his products because with that premium I would have simply invested that amount in the direct purchase of coins...
my fault. the same I had with bitcoin, it took me a long time to understand the innovation/vault of these stuffs.

Some time ago I also posted a similar thread, wondering why art galleries "snub" our sector.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5497101.msg64100969#msg64100969
and considering that I care much more about values ​​and certain ideals, I am organizing at my own expense here in Italy a 3-day exhibition/conference in which to talk about bitcoin/crypto collectibles themed objects (last weekend of September)

I will give you all the details in the next few days, we are finalizing the contract with the art gallery.
Meanwhile I have reached some fellow collectors and artists, more to come...

had you spent the same amount in actually buying Bitcoin and held it, you would have more value than what the coins are now worth.

[BTCOVERFIATS]

I was at a bar in Brooklyn, NY last summer and was doing a public poll for my own entertainment to gauge sentiment.

I shit you not I asked about 300 people in the span of the day about Bitcoin. People from age 21-35 and only 3 people owned Bitcoin, and of those 3 only one had it in cold storage.

We are so early with Bitcoin itself it is no wonder why the Bitcoin collectibles space hasn't taken off yet.

I suspect it might be another 10 years before Casascius coins get any real traction.

[Eclipse33]

I was at a bar in Brooklyn, NY last summer and was doing a public poll for my own entertainment to gauge sentiment.

I shit you not I asked about 300 people in the span of the day about Bitcoin. People from age 21-35 and only 3 people owned Bitcoin, and of those 3 only one had it in cold storage.

We are so early with Bitcoin itself it is no wonder why the Bitcoin collectibles space hasn't taken off yet.

I suspect it might be another 10 years before Casascius coins get any real traction.

This, exactly this.

I don't think people are ready for this whole crypto thing yet, we should give them more time to get accustomed to the idea.

It's not just technical literacy, it's also the ideology of satoshi that must be learned in-order to get a larger perspective. 

[Shakeyjake]

I am a newbie here . I definitely joined because of physical bitcoin. I am actually working on my own crypto coin (like everyone else). It will be some time before I am there. I am going to produce doge and shib coins , if I make it. I have metals and am starting with sand casting, but will probably move up to a coin press before I make the leap. Any recommendations/advise would be welcome. Actually, any advice is welcome. I actually anticipate this market growing considerably. As crypto sees wider adoption, I am betting on these increasing in value, just because the crypto will increase in value .
I note that large coins sell for a lower premium. Not a lot of people with $7m on hand. Asking $14m for a 10 bitcoin token seems steep.

Speculation on speculative currency is risk on top of risk. I’m in. This is the future!

[1Dq]

First of all - I love the idea of this thread and all the discussions so far, thanks to all involved.

I'm not that knowledgable in physical collectables, but I'd add a couple of thoughts from my (artist) perspective.

I see what most of us are doing in our different ways as charting unexplored areas in a developing land that's similar, but different to known parts of our world.
What we are doing is valuable, because it builds a bridge between the digital and the physical world.
That helps people see value in crypto and enriches its domain, especially bitcoin's.

We need to be patient and continue doing what we love.
It might be similar as with impressionist painters, they were frowned upon and discarded as non art at first but look at the value of impressionist art today.

Cheers.

[ChiBitCTy]

For a while now, my gut has told me one day some massively, large influencer,/celebrity, or politician or possible public figure will show an interest in these coins by talking about them publicly, and they will become instantly one of the most hottest physical collectibles on the planet. I’ve always wished they’d make a movie like the Italian Job, but instead of them stealing gold bars,  it’s a briefcase full of Lealana coins.

How about Kim Kardashian?  I remember when she posted this.  I texted Kialara who hadn't seen it yet.  We were both pretty taken back, as she had over 100M followers at the time.  I despise her and her family, but no denying she one of the worlds most famous people.  Or how about Apple Co-founder, or former US president "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" (he did lol).  

When Kim posted that, I don't think most had any idea how to find out what it was /where to find it.  However articles were written about it, for example (https://cointelegraph.com/news/kim-kardashian-west-raises-stakes-with-bitcoin-in-charity-poker-night-out).

Some people figured it out and every Kialara on ebay sold right away.  I happened to have a duplicate bar and it sold for 3 x normal price and immediately. I'm not sure if Max/Kialara had anything available on his website at the time, I will have to ask him. Definitely curious how sales went around that time if so.  



( https://thebitcoinnews.com/kim-kardashian-receives-her-first-physical-bitcoin/ )
Matthew Roszak gifts funded Kialara’s to other prominent individuals (US President Bill Clinton and Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak

 There was a guy here selassie soldier? who is planning on opening one in FLorida someday.

  I have even donated some of my CypherHodl items just for the museum, including a Smart Contract Timelock Clock redeemable in the year 2100  

  Also, with the fallout of Skamkey I have seen OG's selling their Bitbills and Cas coins.

  I think that is a big factor in people making any decisions from getting into our hobby...especially with the high end loaded items.

  

yes that is g moses (as he goes by in several other channels such as telegram) - he stole my idea lol actually we kinda both came up with the idea around the same time.

George is like my brother - very good guy. and man you give donations of items? make the sucker pay, he can afford it lol

his account was locked here and he has been unsuccessful in getting the admins to unlock it and he has refused to make a new forum account as far as I know.

Moses is my boy.  He found me on Instagram  "PhysicalCryptocurrency", was brand new to collectibles and I remember spending quite some time teaching him the space.  Which lead him here.  



As for everything else in this crazy thread that kind of reminds me of the old days, I will say I think a good amount of you guys are off base.  I'm not sure if I'm a lying leviathan spirit, which I kinda hope I am as I think that's hilarious.  I also don't believe in "god", so I guess I'm going to hell where theres a red guy with horns and what not.  Bible versus, that's a new one.  

New funded collectibles are becoming and should be a thing of the past.  This isn't hate, or misinformation or anything like that, it's just how it is and should be, quite frankly.  Anyone can say or think whatever they want, but I know this space as well as anyone (sans MinerJones and Tweetious).  Most new makers just don't know what they are doing or how to appeal to the general collective.  I would say for any newer makers, take a page out of Alpen Coins book.  Despite being funded, which I know even he is on the fence about doing, he's the perfect example of how to become a new coin maker whos appeals to the masses, and does things right. I hold Frank in very high regard as his execution and continued progress has been great.  

Old funded stuff like Casascius and BTCC will always remain popular/desired/etc

[aoluain]

New funded collectibles are becoming and should be a thing of the past.  This isn't hate, or misinformation or anything like that, it's just how it is and should be, quite frankly.  Anyone can say or think whatever they want, but I know this space as well as anyone (sans MinerJones and Tweetious).  Most new makers just don't know what they are doing or how to appeal to the general collective.  I would say for any newer makers, take a page out of Alpen Coins book.  Despite being funded, which I know even he is on the fence about doing, he's the perfect example of how to become a new coin maker whos appeals to the masses, and does things right. I hold Frank in very high regard as his execution and continued progress has been great.  

Old funded stuff like Casascius and BTCC will always remain popular/desired/etc

Thats an interesting view C, my thinking is that there should be constantly new makers
making themselves known in order to help progress. Maybe a new Alpencoin will be
born tomorrow, who knows?

If we were all just hunting Casascius and BTCC there would be no Alpen, Cypher, Polymerbit etc.

I would like to hear more about why new makers will be a think of the past?

I like to see new makers appearing but I like it more when they expand and continue
to create rather than a one off offering.

[DaveF]

I think a lot of people do collect but a lot of them don't talk about it.

Personally I used to do more but realized that a lot of what I was collecting was just going to wind up in boxes or in storage and never get displayed so I have been sell off a lot and cutting back on what I buy.
When I posted this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455887  a year ago I had a few people reach out to me for some items that I have never seen in the collectables section of the forum.

I have also had a couple of non crypto people reach out asking for other things that they knew I had when I was selling off some other stuff for items they wanted to collect. BUT, they were not and still are not known as collectors. So there it probably a lot more out there that just value their privacy and unless they reach out to you about it you would never know.

-Dave

[tread93]

New funded collectibles are becoming and should be a thing of the past.  This isn't hate, or misinformation or anything like that, it's just how it is and should be, quite frankly.  Anyone can say or think whatever they want, but I know this space as well as anyone (sans MinerJones and Tweetious).  Most new makers just don't know what they are doing or how to appeal to the general collective.  I would say for any newer makers, take a page out of Alpen Coins book.  Despite being funded, which I know even he is on the fence about doing, he's the perfect example of how to become a new coin maker whos appeals to the masses, and does things right. I hold Frank in very high regard as his execution and continued progress has been great.  

Old funded stuff like Casascius and BTCC will always remain popular/desired/etc

Thats an interesting view C, my thinking is that there should be constantly new makers
making themselves known in order to help progress. Maybe a new Alpencoin will be
born tomorrow, who knows?

If we were all just hunting Casascius and BTCC there would be no Alpen, Cypher, Polymerbit etc.

I would like to hear more about why new makers will be a think of the past?

I like to see new makers appearing but I like it more when they expand and continue
to create rather than a one off offering.

I definitely would have to agree with you here, if it wasn't for folks like Alpencoin and Polymerbit & so many others keeping this hobby alive then eventually all this section would be is only a place to find some of the few remaining Casascius or BTCC coins left that at some point will become too expensive for most to aquire unless they are already peeled.

I think that having variety and especially coins that keep up with the times & portraying relevant current events help to frame those events in history in our unique space and also represent the lifeblood of our hobby.

Surely you will come across the scum of the hobby who steal the coins and appear to be good people but then stab you in the back. That is unfortunate but that is the sheer nature of cryptocurrency and frankly the sheer nature of this world unfortunately.

I am very bullish on the outlook of this space and I for one am very excited for what new makers and new coins will bring, a fresh perspective and hopefully new and innovative designs & types of coins.

I think right now we are in a fragile state with recent current events but I think we are not far from having a lot more demand and interest flooding in, especially when Bitcoin strikes fresh new ATHs & some of the original makers and even new makers break records in auctions sales and the press & other celebs bring attention to it.

Stay vigilant my friends! Have a positive outlook on this hobby because the best may have already come but we sure have a heck of a lot more to look forward to in my book.

[PreciousMetapsICT]

New funded collectibles are becoming and should be a thing of the past.  This isn't hate, or misinformation or anything like that, it's just how it is and should be, quite frankly.  Anyone can say or think whatever they want, but I know this space as well as anyone (sans MinerJones and Tweetious).  Most new makers just don't know what they are doing or how to appeal to the general collective.  I would say for any newer makers, take a page out of Alpen Coins book.  Despite being funded, which I know even he is on the fence about doing, he's the perfect example of how to become a new coin maker whos appeals to the masses, and does things right. I hold Frank in very high regard as his execution and continued progress has been great.  

Old funded stuff like Casascius and BTCC will always remain popular/desired/etc

Thats an interesting view C, my thinking is that there should be constantly new makers
making themselves known in order to help progress. Maybe a new Alpencoin will be
born tomorrow, who knows?

If we were all just hunting Casascius and BTCC there would be no Alpen, Cypher, Polymerbit etc.

I would like to hear more about why new makers will be a think of the past?

I like to see new makers appearing but I like it more when they expand and continue
to create rather than a one off offering.

I definitely would have to agree with you here, if it wasn't for folks like Alpencoin and Polymerbit & so many others keeping this hobby alive then eventually all this section would be is only a place to find some of the few remaining Casascius or BTCC coins left that at some point will become too expensive for most to aquire unless they are already peeled.

I think that having variety and especially coins that keep up with the times & portraying relevant current events help to frame those events in history in our unique space and also represent the lifeblood of our hobby.

Surely you will come across the scum of the hobby who steal the coins and appear to be good people but then stab you in the back. That is unfortunate but that is the sheer nature of cryptocurrency and frankly the sheer nature of this world unfortunately.

I am very bullish on the outlook of this space and I for one am very excited for what new makers and new coins will bring, a fresh perspective and hopefully new and innovative designs & types of coins.

I think right now we are in a fragile state with recent current events but I think we are not far from having a lot more demand and interest flooding in, especially when Bitcoin strikes fresh new ATHs & some of the original makers and even new makers break records in auctions sales and the press & other celebs bring attention to it.

Stay vigilant my friends! Have a positive outlook on this hobby because the best may have already come but we sure have a heck of a lot more to look forward to in my book.

I think physcal crypto coins have barely broken the surface.  I can tell you that of the 30 or so 25 - 45 aged people I have worked with over the past few years, only a handful even owned cryptocurrency (I'm counting dogecoin to or it would be only 2-3). Even those that know about and own crypto - have no clue about physical crypto coins. They don't understand how you can have bitcoin on a wallet or how you could redeem it. I would say we are early. Stacks auctions are bringing some attention, but it could be better.  Maybe have James do a direct link to the collectibles section instead of just mentioning the forum (I could reach out but I'm sure there are others who have a lengthy relationship with him... I just buy and converse on whatever issues I see with their listings... he's a good dude tho) - I can tell you, the collectibles section is hard to find if you are a newbie and just stumble your way to the forum homepage.

At this point in time, it would be very hard for me to trust new makers.  I'm talking people who just come out of the woodwork and want to produce coins.  Besides the trust in the maker, you also have to trust that the maker knows how to safely and securely make keys. Mopar has like a 10 step process that is very involved and very safe... I need to know they produce keys to that level of security. There are just too many shady people in this space.  And you can tell it by the way they talk, sound like some lying leviathans always talking in circles and can never be straight forth and honest.

Either way - this space is still early. When btc skyrockets up and people (collectors like ourselves... most people I know in this space also collected something else before) start to see themselves being priced out of certain makers, they will fomo in and buy.  - I know cuz I was there, and I did it.

Good thread tread! lots of good discussion

[aoluain]

Altogether and overall a very positive discussion about crypto collectibles. Another
question I want to ask based on the above points about the space being in its infancy,
has the activity on the "Collectibles" board increased over the years?

I think it has become more streamlined towards crypto collectibles, I think I remember
a good few years ago that Lesbian Cow was selling a lot of FIAT collectibles for example
but FIAT collectibles rarely come up now.

In terms of new makers, I think the preference generally would be for the items they make
to be buyer funded, if they would be pre funded I'm playing it safe and hold'ing off.

[rsincognito]

Yes - security would be a definite need.


what I would love to have is a space where I can have my 3d printers, my lasers - basically my shop - set up, but then also have display areas for all of my collectibles and any that anyone else would want displayed, have areas where people can display pieces for sale (like consignment) they could also then list them on sale on various sites and if they sold, I would simply package/ship them out, a space for VR - where people could enter Bitcoin/crypto VR spaces - I know of at least 3 that exist now and I am sure there are others. A gallery for art etc

Before COVID I was looking at a building that could have done this but they put the sale on hold (due to covid - I think the seller got sick) and then I spent a lot of Bitcoin helping family - most who lost jobs due to covid - for example several of my daughters were servers so the restaurants laid them off.  Not to mention our unemployment system was broken, would crash repeatedly so it was hard for them to even file their weekly claims. I also used 2 Bitcoin to pay off my mom's house.

Needless to say, when it calmed down and the kids were going back to work, I was down about 5 btc and could no longer entertain getting the building - which had also nearly doubled in price.

I still hope to do this one day though

I’m probably not the first one to propose this idea, but what if we got a Headstart for next years 2025 bitcoin conference and we all chipped in to have a booth that’s strictly for the bitcoin talk collectible section? it would give us enough time to raise funds for a couple security guards and We’re logistical planning and tables and banners. I would be willing to donate the first $500 in Btc, we could have MJ Escrow the fund.

Would love to know everyone thoughts 🤠

[1Dq]

Yes - security would be a definite need.


what I would love to have is a space where I can have my 3d printers, my lasers - basically my shop - set up, but then also have display areas for all of my collectibles and any that anyone else would want displayed, have areas where people can display pieces for sale (like consignment) they could also then list them on sale on various sites and if they sold, I would simply package/ship them out, a space for VR - where people could enter Bitcoin/crypto VR spaces - I know of at least 3 that exist now and I am sure there are others. A gallery for art etc

Before COVID I was looking at a building that could have done this but they put the sale on hold (due to covid - I think the seller got sick) and then I spent a lot of Bitcoin helping family - most who lost jobs due to covid - for example several of my daughters were servers so the restaurants laid them off.  Not to mention our unemployment system was broken, would crash repeatedly so it was hard for them to even file their weekly claims. I also used 2 Bitcoin to pay off my mom's house.

Needless to say, when it calmed down and the kids were going back to work, I was down about 5 btc and could no longer entertain getting the building - which had also nearly doubled in price.

I still hope to do this one day though

I’m probably not the first one to propose this idea, but what if we got a Headstart for next years 2025 bitcoin conference and we all chipped in to have a booth that’s strictly for the bitcoin talk collectible section? it would give us enough time to raise funds for a couple security guards and We’re logistical planning and tables and banners. I would be willing to donate the first $500 in Btc, we could have MJ Escrow the fund.

Would love to know everyone thoughts 🤠

Good idea!
I know my paintings aren't your classic collectables, but I'd participate with a print or two, especially Bitcollector seems appropriate for this kind of occasion.

[minerjones]

Yes - security would be a definite need.


what I would love to have is a space where I can have my 3d printers, my lasers - basically my shop - set up, but then also have display areas for all of my collectibles and any that anyone else would want displayed, have areas where people can display pieces for sale (like consignment) they could also then list them on sale on various sites and if they sold, I would simply package/ship them out, a space for VR - where people could enter Bitcoin/crypto VR spaces - I know of at least 3 that exist now and I am sure there are others. A gallery for art etc

Before COVID I was looking at a building that could have done this but they put the sale on hold (due to covid - I think the seller got sick) and then I spent a lot of Bitcoin helping family - most who lost jobs due to covid - for example several of my daughters were servers so the restaurants laid them off.  Not to mention our unemployment system was broken, would crash repeatedly so it was hard for them to even file their weekly claims. I also used 2 Bitcoin to pay off my mom's house.

Needless to say, when it calmed down and the kids were going back to work, I was down about 5 btc and could no longer entertain getting the building - which had also nearly doubled in price.

I still hope to do this one day though

I’m probably not the first one to propose this idea, but what if we got a Headstart for next years 2025 bitcoin conference and we all chipped in to have a booth that’s strictly for the bitcoin talk collectible section? it would give us enough time to raise funds for a couple security guards and We’re logistical planning and tables and banners. I would be willing to donate the first $500 in Btc, we could have MJ Escrow the fund.

Would love to know everyone thoughts 🤠

Booths aint cheap... pretty sure Mopar told me normal cost was around $25k ?? not 100% sure though.....
Maybe something partnering with James at Stacks and Bowers would be pretty cool.

[tread93]

Good thread tread! lots of good discussion


[/quote]

Thanks m8!

Yes - security would be a definite need.


what I would love to have is a space where I can have my 3d printers, my lasers - basically my shop - set up, but then also have display areas for all of my collectibles and any that anyone else would want displayed, have areas where people can display pieces for sale (like consignment) they could also then list them on sale on various sites and if they sold, I would simply package/ship them out, a space for VR - where people could enter Bitcoin/crypto VR spaces - I know of at least 3 that exist now and I am sure there are others. A gallery for art etc

Before COVID I was looking at a building that could have done this but they put the sale on hold (due to covid - I think the seller got sick) and then I spent a lot of Bitcoin helping family - most who lost jobs due to covid - for example several of my daughters were servers so the restaurants laid them off.  Not to mention our unemployment system was broken, would crash repeatedly so it was hard for them to even file their weekly claims. I also used 2 Bitcoin to pay off my mom's house.

Needless to say, when it calmed down and the kids were going back to work, I was down about 5 btc and could no longer entertain getting the building - which had also nearly doubled in price.

I still hope to do this one day though

I’m probably not the first one to propose this idea, but what if we got a Headstart for next years 2025 bitcoin conference and we all chipped in to have a booth that’s strictly for the bitcoin talk collectible section? it would give us enough time to raise funds for a couple security guards and We’re logistical planning and tables and banners. I would be willing to donate the first $500 in Btc, we could have MJ Escrow the fund.

Would love to know everyone thoughts 🤠

Booths aint cheap... pretty sure Mopar told me normal cost was around $25k ?? not 100% sure though.....
Maybe something partnering with James at Stacks and Bowers would be pretty cool.

I feel like James and the team would definitely welcome the idea! I am curious if they will keep the conference in Tennessee next year as well? Man I hope they bring it back to Miami! I am pretty sure they will after they hear all the folks flying internationally & hear of all the hassle they had to go through just to make it this year they might consider it. But who knows. I am so down to either try and partner up for something like that. I know one thing is for sure that if i'm going next year I sure won't miss the Btalk physical crypto collectors meet up   Last years was so dope, although it was a little crammed and didn't really ideally get to meet every single person there and get to figure out exactly who they were on here but hey we will all eventually meet each other as long as we keep up over the years