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June 15, 2024, 07:13:51 AM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.

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June 15, 2024, 07:22:06 AM
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What are you even asking here? The topic doesn't make sense to me. If you are gambling for fun or entertainment, you just go hang out and spend a few bucks on poker or blackjack and go home if you lose the amount you took out from the bank. For example, I haven't been to the casino in months and decide I want to go for awhile and play some 1/3 no limit poker. I go to the bank and grab $100-300 and play for a bit. If i lose I don't rebuy and go home, if I win what I consider enough money I cash out and go home.

Don't be a degen, just have a little fun.

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June 15, 2024, 07:28:00 AM
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Are you asking who are you? From what I have read, the question is "Who are you between these choices?"
  • Responsible gambler
  • Addicted gambler
  • Occasional gambler

Personally, I'm more of a responsible gambler because I don't let my emotions control my decisions. I won't ever go over my limit. I admit I had that portion before but it's not always going to be like that anymore because I chose not to be like that.

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June 15, 2024, 07:34:54 AM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (...)

There is no way I would spend 10% of my net worth in the casino. Spending savings to gamble in the casino is insane. As yahoo62278 says, good gambling should be for fun, and here I don't consider my savings or part of my net worth, but the money for the month. If I have $200 left over this month for leisure I can spend it, going out for dinner, going to the movies or gambling at the casino, or a combination of them.

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June 15, 2024, 07:46:49 AM
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Yes that is just it. If you gamble with more money and gambling is the one controlling you and you get addicted to gambling, that is no more fun at all.

What is said to be gambling for fun is when you use 1% of your weekly income to gamble weekly and not gamble more than that. Although I went up to 5% at times and I do not feel it at all. But I notice that I do not like to lose at all but if I lose, I am not depressed or be thinking about the money.

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June 15, 2024, 07:48:46 AM
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There is no way I would spend 10% of my net worth in the casino. Spending savings to gamble in the casino is insane. As yahoo62278 says, good gambling should be for fun, and here I don't consider my savings or part of my net worth, but the money for the month. If I have $200 left over this month for leisure I can spend it, going out for dinner, going to the movies or gambling at the casino, or a combination of them.
I wouldn't even dare to take savings for gambling, it's better to find other sources to use for gambling because it's not worth much but if it's for fun then it's enough I say under $50 for me it's big enough because I don't want to exceed the limit.

$10K, $1000 for gambling is a little crazy especially taking from his savings, I wouldn't do that even if it wouldn't lose all of it when you lose you won't feel satisfied it will definitely continue to deposit again.

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June 15, 2024, 07:51:38 AM
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Sometimes I don't even deposit money into casinos for fun, there are truly free games for everyone to experience. As for the issue that is closely related to money, many situations can happen like the way OP mentioned initial capital expenditure, but usually we want to win to get money with things that we spend, I know both the feeling of someone accepting a loss and the feeling of not accepting a loss.

But the point of responsibility here is not simply about gambling behavior, because in each different case we will evaluate the level of risk/safety. But anyway, advising someone to play responsibly is just a warning and when they get stuck they can know it was a mistake/continue to repeat the mistake until they stop that habit.









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June 15, 2024, 08:42:07 AM
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That's right and I am guessing that you tested it with yourself to see if you are gambling for fun.
Well, as long as a gambler has a set amount that he will gamble and he already told himself that he is ready to lose it all whatever happens then he will definitely have fun while playing.
Mindset. Our brain can sometimes be tricked by repeatedly telling ourselves that we will end it if we ever deplete the balance that we set and somehow it works. I've done that many times and because of that, I avoid being frustrated every time I lose. Sure, there will still be the stressful side especially if the losing streak comes but at the end of the day you can still swallow the reality that it's hard to win against the house and you will accept that you lost.

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June 15, 2024, 09:23:55 AM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.

Just play simply as that, I mean don't pressure yourself, just bring enough money if you are going to play on land base casinos, or deposit in online. The thing is that gamblers are not satisfied, even if we won, most of the time we want to comeback for more and duplicate that emotion and feeling. And this could be the downturn as you can't control your emotions.

That's why when I play and really wanted to enjoy, I will just go in traditional based casinos with my wife and some friends to have some fun. Even in the last bet, we are all laughing hard specially if we hit the bonus. But at the end, if it doesn't look good then we go hope still happy even if we lost. We don't compute, just bring good enough money to last the night.

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June 15, 2024, 09:33:24 AM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.

This is just my own opinion. Those gamblers who say they play gambling in a casino for fun only are gamblers who only have a limited amount of money to bet. Winning or losing is absolutely fine. Now, what you are saying is that if you gambled $1,000 out of your $10,000 savings, you are fine even if you lose because you have $9,000 in savings,
and he gambled another $5,000 and lost.

This is my assessment: losing $5,000 in gambling is only natural; you won't be happy because that is 50% of your $10,000 savings. If,  in real life, I don't do that, 50% of my savings will be allocated to gambling; only a gambling addict can do that. You also didn't say if the gambler was an addict in the illustration you gave.



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June 15, 2024, 09:50:22 AM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions,
Someone being fine with losing a thousand dollars from 10k savings, bugs me, because I would not be fine and regret the decision to gamble in the first place. It is a huge amount of money from where I come from. Still as long as it is kept within the "fun" domain it is fine. There should be a ceiling on the max budget to be spent on gambling otherwise the spending becomes difficult to keep track of.

Bankroll management and risk management are two thing if a gambler starts to do they will no longer be an addict.

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June 15, 2024, 09:57:24 AM
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In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun).
10% of your savings is a huge chunk of it and does not count as gambling for fun for me. If you run through $1000 in the space of days or weeks, except you quit gambling after that you will be on your way to running through the whole pile. You should not be staking out of your savings at all.

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June 15, 2024, 10:44:21 AM
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I have partake in both gambling attitude and I believe most gamblers always do same too. As a gambler, sometimes you might just want to have fun with the small amount you can afford to lose but before you can realize yourself, you have already lost more than you can afford and you will just get mad at your self. Such attitude shows that the gambler has shifted from gambling for fun into gambling for profit.

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June 15, 2024, 10:50:12 AM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun.

A 10% down is surely stingy and will probably give me temporary rest on gambling since we talking about 10% of my savings but for the sake of discussion you’re right that you can gamble for fun if you are risking what you can afford to lose.

There’s no gambler that is willing to lose huge part of their savings and tell its for fun because that is pure hypocrisy.

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However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.

This is always the case on gambling. They think that they are having fun when they still not in lose when they are using huge funds but the realization will kicks in once they start to feel the loss accumulating per bet.

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June 15, 2024, 11:24:40 AM
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I mean, who the fuck is going to be happy losing half of his savings? lol. Gambling is at the end of the day, either for fun or not, should have money that people are willing to spend and lose. Doesn't matter how much it is technically it's different from person to person but it always boils down to money you've assumed you're going to lose. It's pretty similar to how I consider what money goes into my trading (and is probably why a lot of people compare the two in the first place).

And you can still not be happy even if you didn't lose half of your savings. Even losing money shouldn't make you happy anyway! That doesn't mean that you're not gambling for fun though, two different things. You stop gambling for fun when you start trying to think you can cheat the system, so you try and try again, which ultimately just ends up with you losing more and more money Tongue.

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June 15, 2024, 11:56:27 AM
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In my opinion, when a person who lives on a salary at the end of the month manages to pay all his bills, then manages to set aside a sum of money for all the things he intends to do for fun, for example a person who earns $1000 in salary, has bills for 800$ at the end of the month, then this person pays all the bills and ends up with 200$, in that 200$ this person makes a list of things they want to do to have fun, for example, 50$ will be for having fun at the beach, 50$ will be to go have fun at an amusement park with his family, 50$ will be saved and 30$ will be for gambling, 20$ he will save for his children's savings. In this case, when he plays and loses all 30$ he will not be sad, because he is playing for fun, he has no hope and does not create high expectations of winning money consistently with gambling, that is what I consider playing for fun.

when it is the case of a person who has many businesses that give him a good amount of money every day, then in that case that person can play constantly, after the game he will do other things to have fun, because he has money to spend and every Every time he spends money, more money comes into his bank account thanks to the many businesses he has

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June 15, 2024, 11:57:16 AM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun).
I won't accept this because I know a gambler gambling with all the money he has is not gambling for fun. The reason why one would want to use all the money they have to play gambling is to gain back double of the money that was used in playing,  and the truth is that if the money used playing bet ends to be lose the person will definitely feel sad because what was expected didn't come through.  The real fun in gambling is playing with amount you can afford to lose, it doesn't mean it must be all the money you have. The fun we are talking about in gambling is not gambling with all the money one has but understanding the limit in gambling and not expecting so much while playing any bet.

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June 15, 2024, 12:02:28 PM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.
So in short, the lesson here is that a gambler should only gamble and use the funds that they can afford to lose, and those funds should not be from your salary or savings, but if they cannot be avoided, then get only the amount you think has a small effect on your finances. For me, I gamble for fun when I set it in my mind that I will gamble for fun only, not expecting anything in return or to earn, so that no matter what happens, I will not feel any regret or be annoyed because I lose all my funds, because that's when a gambler will feel the urge to play more because they can't eliminate the feeling of being annoyed or regret because they lose the money they have. So in order to avoid that, learn to control emotion, learn to limit yourself from overspending so that you can play for fun without thinking about anything just for fun.

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June 15, 2024, 12:28:27 PM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.

I agree with you. But sometimes it happens that a person starts playing for fun, but over time it turns out that he is playing for money or to win back. Therefore, you need to immediately outline your strategy when emotions do not prevail over a person. Because when emotions take over and the strategy is not written down, problems may arise with rash bets or attempts to win back a loss.
Absolutely right, a responsible player is distinguished by strategy and the fact that he will never play with money that he cannot afford to lose

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June 15, 2024, 12:47:39 PM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.

To be honest, gambling with $1000 when you have only $10,000 as your savings is too risky for fun sake, at most $500 which would be used to play multiple games with small stake. The essence of gambling with small stakes is to increase your gambling time and fun, else gambling with huge stakes is an obvious fact that the gambler is gambling to make extra money. Gambling with what you can afford to loose is the best thing to do if truly the gambler doesn't want to get addicted.

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