Does mathematical calculations really work in lotto or is it just guess work?

[Davidvictorson]

I know this game, I have heard of it and seen it around as a Nigerian but I have never gone close to the shop were it is played. I know its gambling but it seems like a game for older people. My reason is that they are mostly older men from age 45 and above I see within the vicinity where these lotto is played.

Do you think that people can calculate and predict the numbers that machines draw or they're just guessing and picking random number combinations?

I found this article that explains how it works. And honestly, this is the first time I am paying any kind of attention to reading about this lotto. What I can conclude from it all depends on probability. And the longer you play the game, the more experience you have in making the right guess.

- Probability: A guide to acquiring wealth through Baba Ijebu Lotto.

[Ojima-ojo]

Lotto is all about lucky number and for that individual analysis will always fails and for that there is no working mechanism that could influence your winning in Lotto, although some may still device ways to bit the system but that can also be an abuse method since it is impossible to win over the house and unless by luck can anyone win the lotto since its a game of luck.

[Slow death]

In my country I believe that there are more lotto shops and kiosks than sports bet shops, most Nigerians will be familiar with the popular Baba Ijebu lotto. If you come closer to any of these lotto shops and kiosks, you will notice gamblers of all ages, young and old busy calculating and coming up with probable combinations of numbers that can win. I notice that experienced forecasters and even scammers sells "sure numbers" and other gamblers will pay money to buy these numbers. Some times they win or one number or arrangements can spoil their tickets

Do you think that people can calculate and predict the numbers that machines draw or they're just guessing and picking random number combinations?

I don't know any math teacher who has become rich because of winning lottery tickets, on the contrary, I always see math teachers complaining that their salary is too low for the amount of effort they are putting in, this means that if it were possible use mathematics to win the lottery, then all these mathematics teachers would already be very rich, the lottery is something that depends solely and exclusively on luck. Even those rich people who buy a lot of lottery tickets don't win, but a poor person who bought just 1 ticket wins. Lottery winners are very random. That's why I don't like the lottery

[milewilda]

In my country I believe that there are more lotto shops and kiosks than sports bet shops, most Nigerians will be familiar with the popular Baba Ijebu lotto. If you come closer to any of these lotto shops and kiosks, you will notice gamblers of all ages, young and old busy calculating and coming up with probable combinations of numbers that can win. I notice that experienced forecasters and even scammers sells "sure numbers" and other gamblers will pay money to buy these numbers. Some times they win or one number or arrangements can spoil their tickets

Do you think that people can calculate and predict the numbers that machines draw or they're just guessing and picking random number combinations?

MATH is relevant or something that could be applied on Lottery or sweepstakes since we are really that talking about number combinations on which it would really be that relevant that these
calculations could be applied but if we do tend to look on how many possible combinations that you would really be needing for you to have that increased chance on winning then it would really be that
close to impossible. This is why on the moment that you woule be dealing up with lottery then better not to bother yourself on making one.

But we've seen that its possible and could really happen.

The Man Who Won The Lottery 14 Times Using Incredibly Basic Math
https://www.iflscience.com/the-man-who-won-the-lottery-14-times-using-incredibly-basic-math-69244

Of course its not something that anyone could really be able to do so.
On the moment that you would really be that become too desperate on making some lottery bets
then you should really be careful on spending.

[yahoo62278]

In my country I believe that there are more lotto shops and kiosks than sports bet shops, most Nigerians will be familiar with the popular Baba Ijebu lotto. If you come closer to any of these lotto shops and kiosks, you will notice gamblers of all ages, young and old busy calculating and coming up with probable combinations of numbers that can win. I notice that experienced forecasters and even scammers sells "sure numbers" and other gamblers will pay money to buy these numbers. Some times they win or one number or arrangements can spoil their tickets

Do you think that people can calculate and predict the numbers that machines draw or they're just guessing and picking random number combinations?

If the lottery is being ran fair and everything is random, then there is no way to predict anything. Anyone paying for "sure" numbers is a moron. If you have all the results of all the draws on a certain lottery, you can make a spreadsheet or graph and see what numbers have come the most often over the period of the lottery and get probabilities, but that doesn't guarantee that those numbers hit at any time in any draw and at the same time. It just tells you that these numbers have come more often.

[Lanatsa]

In my country I believe that there are more lotto shops and kiosks than sports bet shops, most Nigerians will be familiar with the popular Baba Ijebu lotto. If you come closer to any of these lotto shops and kiosks, you will notice gamblers of all ages, young and old busy calculating and coming up with probable combinations of numbers that can win. I notice that experienced forecasters and even scammers sells "sure numbers" and other gamblers will pay money to buy these numbers. Some times they win or one number or arrangements can spoil their tickets

Do you think that people can calculate and predict the numbers that machines draw or they're just guessing and picking random number combinations?

Even if you are really that good at math but basing up on the odds and probability then it is really that close to impossible but people would really be that still a fan on dealing or engaging with lottery despite of such chance because we do know that once they do find themselves hitting up that jackpot then it would really be definitely be changing up their whole lives in terms of financial status.
Looking back into the odds on winning or hitting. Ex. POWERBALL,the odds of claiming the jackpot in a Powerball drawing are 1 in 292.2 million and with these numbers alone then you would really be already have the idea that you wont really be needing any calculations or somehow when making up some bets or combination but i do agree on some points above that people would really be applying into those methods or ways
as much as possible on which they would really be having those perception that they could really be able to take advantage out of it but realistically it wont really be making out those influence on results.
The only thing you do need is that extreme luck on which we know that there's no one would be able to know on when it would happen.

[Forsyth Jones]

Lottery is a game based solely and exclusively on luck, we don't know how they operate in there, if they are random or they choose who wants to win, but you must match an exclusive sequence of numbers, I personally don't even waste my time with it, because the probability is very low indeed.

News like this makes me doubt the ability of lottery systems to be truly random, how is it possible for a single person to win more than 15x the lottery?

[bitbollo]

any statistics course clearly explains to you that numbers "Have no memory" and any approach to "predict" just makes no sense.
You could bet on the numbers, but that doesn't mean they can come out... after 10? 100? 1000? extractions?
Maybe statistically every 10,000 draws all the numbers come out, but it's not a written rule! And to chase this victory you can get a big debt.
When a win is mathematical driven, there are no betting games.

[linenoise]

If the lotto game is designed badly then yes, calculations can be used to win more than you spend. There was a recent good movie, based on true events, of someone finding a flawed payout system. The guy won 26 million over 2 years. The flaw in this case was increasing the odds of winning when someone didn't win, he spotted the flaw and legally exploited it.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8323668/

[STT]

This seems like a funny idea more then a serious attempt to decipher the odds behind lotto.   If people buy the idea as just fun then sure its ok but seriously no there is almost no chance of an advantage from doing so.

If nothing else selling the numbers to multiple people makes it more likely you must then share the proceeds of your winnings.   The whole idea works against itself surely.   It is ironic but just having randomly chosen numbers could be the best idea of all, most tend to go with birth dates.

[Ultegra134]

Unlikely, if you actually study statistics and the probabilities behind gambling games, whether that's lotto, dice, roulette, or pretty much every game that's reliant on luck, you'll notice that there's no accurate pattern to speculate on the outcome; otherwise, someone would have figured out a way to beat the system. Some may have found loopholes like others have already suggested, but I believe that it's an extremely rare occasion. If it were actually possible, you'd see an increasing number of people beating the system; numbers have no memory, so it's practically impossible.

[AmoreJaz]

Unlikely, if you actually study statistics and the probabilities behind gambling games, whether that's lotto, dice, roulette, or pretty much every game that's reliant on luck, you'll notice that there's no accurate pattern to speculate on the outcome; otherwise, someone would have figured out a way to beat the system. Some may have found loopholes like others have already suggested, but I believe that it's an extremely rare occasion. If it were actually possible, you'd see an increasing number of people beating the system; numbers have no memory, so it's practically impossible.

People trying to look for ways to beat the system have come to deploy known strategies such as martingale, d'alembert, reverse d'alembert and others. And yet, no single strategy can beat the house because these strategies are also relying on luck. It may work for certain period, but if you failed to get out, you will find out that your bankroll will slowly be depleted. This is why those casino games which are luck-based, have no assurances that you will win despite of applying these known strategies.

And so with lotto, no mathematical calculations have known to work with this game. Do remember, we have mathematicians and experts but they can't formulate such mathematical technique to beat the system. Unless the lottery system has a loophole, just like what in the movie "Jerry and Marge Go Large" exploited to take advantage of the system.

[carlfebz2]

Unlikely, if you actually study statistics and the probabilities behind gambling games, whether that's lotto, dice, roulette, or pretty much every game that's reliant on luck, you'll notice that there's no accurate pattern to speculate on the outcome; otherwise, someone would have figured out a way to beat the system. Some may have found loopholes like others have already suggested, but I believe that it's an extremely rare occasion. If it were actually possible, you'd see an increasing number of people beating the system; numbers have no memory, so it's practically impossible.

People trying to look for ways to beat the system have come to deploy known strategies such as martingale, d'alembert, reverse d'alembert and others. And yet, no single strategy can beat the house because these strategies are also relying on luck. It may work for certain period, but if you failed to get out, you will find out that your bankroll will slowly be depleted.

All of possible methods and strategies that they could apply then they would really be that definitely be doing that as long they could possibly see that they do have the chance then there's no doubt that people would really be making use of it and would really be pushing it up to work no matter what. We do know that when it comes to this manner then it would really be that so hard to believe or simply impossible
that there's some strategy that could work out specially on to those systems which cant really be getting influenced on specially on the moment that we are speaking about lottery on which combinations
and chance or odds of winning would really be that so hard or simply near to impossible, but as said by most people on the moment that you would be hitting the jackpot then it would really be a life changing
thing and its something that will really be that making you persevere on betting despite of the odds or chance you are seeing.

[goaldigger]

Do you think that people can calculate and predict the numbers that machines draw or they're just guessing and picking random number combinations?

They can compute with the probability for the combinations of number but of course you will still not win if you will not bet on all those probabilities. Though even spending a lot of money in lotto, you might not still win any amount and I don't think someone will make effort to calculate for the numbers and make bet at the same time, not unless if it's a group of people who really wants to destroy the system.

[Raflesia]

I often see some people who even tinker with numbers with certain formulas to be used as a force to increase their confidence in a number but for me it actually doesn't help much because for this Lottery game we only have to guess without having to make calculations with some formulas that are difficult to understand.

Some people I know and who always play the lottery always do that and even funnier is when there is an accident or dream that is considered an oddity, it is used as a reference for choosing numbers in the lottery.
This is like generations because from then until now it has always been like that even though when talking about lotteries we must realize that this is just a random choice of numbers and has nothing to do with calculating formulas or looking for numbers in dreams because it makes you look silly because after all the lottery clearly makes luck a gambling in this case.

[alegotardo]

In my country I believe that there are more lotto shops and kiosks than sports bet shops, most Nigerians will be familiar with the popular Baba Ijebu lotto. If you come closer to any of these lotto shops and kiosks, you will notice gamblers of all ages, young and old busy calculating and coming up with probable combinations of numbers that can win. I notice that experienced forecasters and even scammers sells "sure numbers" and other gamblers will pay money to buy these numbers. Some times they win or one number or arrangements can spoil their tickets

Do you think that people can calculate and predict the numbers that machines draw or they're just guessing and picking random number combinations?

It depends!
If you use mathematics to find out the probability of a certain result occurring and use this to increase your bets, this will certainly give you an advantage. This is how Stefan Mandel managed to win huge jackpots 14 times... look up this name, you will understand better.

However,
If your intention is to use the result of previous bets to predict the result of the next lottery... then you are, at the very least, ignorant. With the exception of a few games, the result of each new lottery is independent of the previous result. Even if the number 01 (for example) has been drawn 10 times in a row, this does not mean that it will come out again... it was just luck.

Also be careful not to lose money with people who take advantage of this false belief by selling supposedly winning tickets or infallible "magic formulas".

[Ultegra134]

People trying to look for ways to beat the system have come to deploy known strategies such as martingale, d'alembert, reverse d'alembert and others. And yet, no single strategy can beat the house because these strategies are also relying on luck. It may work for certain period, but if you failed to get out, you will find out that your bankroll will slowly be depleted. This is why those casino games which are luck-based, have no assurances that you will win despite of applying these known strategies.

And so with lotto, no mathematical calculations have known to work with this game. Do remember, we have mathematicians and experts but they can't formulate such mathematical technique to beat the system. Unless the lottery system has a loophole, just like what in the movie "Jerry and Marge Go Large" exploited to take advantage of the system.

I'm not familiar with the strategies you mentioned; however, it's safe to assume that if they could be applied to casinos, then they likely wouldn't exist as a reasonable number of people would find loopholes to exploit. Whether we like it or not, the house always wins. You can't tackle probabilities or randomness. Some people may claim they were successful, but I'm quite positive it was just a coincidence; luck was on their side. The number of people successfully finding such loopholes is nonexistent; the whole system is very sophisticated itself, and beating it isn't as simple as many imagine.

[South Park]

In my country I believe that there are more lotto shops and kiosks than sports bet shops, most Nigerians will be familiar with the popular Baba Ijebu lotto. If you come closer to any of these lotto shops and kiosks, you will notice gamblers of all ages, young and old busy calculating and coming up with probable combinations of numbers that can win. I notice that experienced forecasters and even scammers sells "sure numbers" and other gamblers will pay money to buy these numbers. Some times they win or one number or arrangements can spoil their tickets

Do you think that people can calculate and predict the numbers that machines draw or they're just guessing and picking random number combinations?

Most of those people are just random guessing or just wishing for their supposed system to work on their favor, however as unlikely as it may seem there is a way to do this, however you will need access to all the results a specific machine has produced and then calculate if there is some sort of bias on the results, if there is none, you have no option but to do this all over again, but if there is, you can bet those numbers that appear more often than not and earn some small profits, but this method is too difficult to implement and most people will not have the patience to do so.

[mirakal]

Calculations cannot help in the game of luck. You can try to get the probability of winning and how many games you will need to lay in a single round to give yourself a higher chance of winning, but you still need to put in millions to even begin to barely swing the odds in your favor.

Sentiments like this is the hope that keeps people playing such games. It builds expectation with each round and when they are unsuccessful they begin to plan for the next.

- Jay -

Mathematical calculations won't work anymore in gambling. Otherwise, majority would end up winning the jackpot most especially for those who are math wizards. However, gambling do not work that way. It's a game of chance and luck, if you don't have that, you will never be in profits.

 Now for those who believe that mathematical calculations will be a great help, maybe the idea is also supported by casinos so that people who keep on losing will find some hopes that once their calculations hit it, they will have all the chances to make big winnings.

[Adbitco]

There is always a formula for it and if you knows it very well it will be more easier for you to handle it, I don't know where I can have this news backs again, because as then there was a news that came up that win heavily on lotto after having discuss the trick and secret behind the game.