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June 26, 2024, 01:20:42 PM
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I really liked how you made your words clear and understanding than all these repeating posts coming from newbies who act like they can advise their fellow newbies on what to do in the forum to rank up or be successful in crypto while they are in no way successful or ranked up that much to dish other newbies as well.

However, newbies can act funny at times when they gain a little knowledge about the forum or crypto. That's when you see them act as if they have arrived. making posts to advise others, while those who feel less of themselves then start to repeat already asked questions. That is the behavior I observed in beginners.

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June 26, 2024, 02:13:40 PM
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So if you are thinking about what to do here to make money, I hope you come across this thread first and get off your ass and do it yourself.
Someone is really fed up with all those newbies' questions ohh I think its OP hehe. We all come to a point when we think we should just ignore these types of questions, I also used to reply to such questions a lot but a time came when I started to ignore them because I figured it out the most of these newbies are fake and they are just asking these questions to show that they are a newbie and they don't know anything.

It was just a physiological technique to let the old members think they were really newbies and needed some help. When they do such an act, this also eats the fun for real newbies also. Which is not a good thing. Overall we should not be lazy as you can almost find anything relevant on Bitcointalk if you have 🤏 sense. Like you can type your keyword + Bitcointalk. And the relevant query will be shown posted on Bitcointalk forum.
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June 26, 2024, 06:41:00 PM
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From the way we make posts and relate with others on the forum could also tells more about ourself and what we are here for, it is obvious enough that some are only here for distractions while some were here to learn and contribute about the bitcoin network, we should not be overwhelmed by what others are doing here nor get distracted by other activities and this platform should not be seen as the same way we handles and uses other social media platforms because things were being regulated here.

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June 26, 2024, 07:39:07 PM
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Don't open a thread asking what you have to do, that's what you have to do. If you do that what you are indicating is that you are a lazy person who has no initiative and is waiting for everything to be served on a platter to make money here. Because that's the end, no need to dissemble. In this forum you can earn money, and that's why people open threads asking what they have to do to "succeed" "earn merits" or whatever it is that leads to earn money, which is the purpose. Something that seems to me very well if you do it in an honest way and put effort and commitment, because the money you earn in an honest way is a measure of the success you have, of the value you bring to society.
Most of this questions and threads are done by newbies and it gets me surprised how someone will create account in a forum like this but will not spend few hours going through the forum to see if what he wanted are there, rather will create thread asking to be spoon-fed.  To me it is a sign of laxity and nothing else. The right thing to do is go through the forum boards to take a glance and see what is available and what is not because the answers to most of their questions are already pinned at the top of most of the boards.


On a second thought, don't you think some of the newbies intentionally asked the questions just to get the attention of members of the forum? If you look at some threads of some of the newbies, some of them will just create the thread and drop the usual questions which has been answered several times and after that you will never see them coming back to respond to the thread again. Not disputing the fact that they asked some of the questions to get help and some of them actually ask the right questions, I think newbies are supposed to focus on going through the forum to make some personal findings first before jumping on creating threads.

Success is still achievable if they (newbies) are willing to focus on the improvement of their knowledge in doing so they have to be intentional about learning and taking time to study the forum and making research to improve their knowledge. Nothing is free anywhere but if hard work is constantly applied then success is achievable in the forum and anywhere else.


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June 26, 2024, 09:05:39 PM
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Nice piece of advice to the newbies, I'm a newbie too but these days I like to have fun while having any discussion because these days the topics are not very serious or the topics encountered by me are non-serious whatever, i like to make something funny in the post, as in the end what you need is others engagement with your post I think this trick works, even on serious topics a little joke, in the end, can help a lot.

Haha, this is not merit hunting trick, but for those who love to read, and want to have others comment on their posts, try at least once if you know to proceed with jokes, as you don't need to go off topic just some funny words or use a very casual tone. Just don't be a bot.

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June 26, 2024, 09:08:53 PM
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Honestly, why not put thread starters, particularly newbies or very low ranks, on your ignore list, when those create a thread/topic that
a) has been posted similarly several times, the more often the worse
and b) is mostly abandoned by thread opener, i.e. (s)he doesn't care to respond or interact in any way with given replies by others
c) is asking for spoon feeding, expresses overall lazyness to find answers with own initiative and so on
or d) could easily be answered by actually reading sticky posts here

It would be consequent and of course the more effective the more fill up their ignore list.

What do you think? Is that too harsh? At the moment, slightly in a bad mood, I like the idea. Tongue

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June 26, 2024, 09:10:57 PM
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This question you asked has been questions beginners always ask, so for you to have join forum being a beginner I think that they have undergo some steps of inquirings and the investigation because in bitcoin talk many persons has brought their brothers and the siblings into this community and there's no way that they have not make inquiring before coming to this place so when I come across of such persons I ignore them knowing that the person is asking that question just to make a post...

So for the aspect of what you need to do which you want to succeed in bitcointalk, I think that you're from the way I see things the only way someone can proceed in this community if the person is really a beginner who does not know anything about this community is to start asking questions that is reasonable and also make it only search of anything it has a mind to do because I know that this community want to make people to grow to the level that is unexpected to people is based on you being innovative

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June 26, 2024, 09:50:03 PM
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We can't completely blame newbies because some of us when we were a newbie there was also some inexperienced and silly questions we do ask just out of curiosity so that's how it is so all what the experience users need do is to continue to guide the newbies on how to navigate through the forum instead of scoding them away because newbies coming in on daily basis in this forum is a sign of continuous growth of the forum because a day will come when the high ranked members we have in the forum now may not be there again so it's the newbies now that will stand as high ranked members to the upcoming newbies so it continues in that circle, the only thing i can advise newbies is not to get distracted by the mindset of earning in the forum as the signatures campaign payment are just peanuts when compared with the amount some of us receives as wages in real life jobs.
                   Signature campaigns payments is just a bonus for participating in the forum when you have attained a higher rank so they should be more interested in making good and quality contributions or better still they should spend more time learning about the forum instead of looking for a way to earn merits in order to increase their ranks and start earning.

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June 27, 2024, 04:30:58 AM
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We can't completely blame newbies because some of us when we were a newbie there was also some inexperienced and silly questions we do ask just out of curiosity so that's how it is so all what the experience users need do is to continue to guide the newbies on how to navigate through the forum instead of scoding them.

No one is completely against the newbies since every higher rank member here started as a newbie but people are more concerned about them learning from the mistake that some of us made in the past by not repeating the same mistake by asking questions that has already been asked and answered several times by other newbies. Some one who is new to a place has some personal findings to make and that doesn't require asking silly questions, the forum is very open and anyone who is patient enough can go through the forum without making a one sentence thread with the caption is this the right place for a newbie or hope I am welcome here kind of questions. Some who claim to be newbie will go all the way to talk about how to earn merit as if merit is the first thing they saw when they signed up here.

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June 27, 2024, 03:10:22 PM
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Don't open a thread asking what you have to do, that's what you have to do. If you do that what you are indicating is that you are a lazy person who has no initiative and is waiting for everything to be served on a platter to make money here. Because that's the end, no need to dissemble. In this forum you can earn money, and that's why people open threads asking what they have to do to "succeed" "earn merits" or whatever it is that leads to earn money, which is the purpose.
I can understand how boring it is to see the same post and give the same answers every day, especially those who are new, asking the same questions and writing the same answers over and over again. Maybe it has become necessary to make it mandatory to not repost on topics that are already open or have already been posted in the past but that can't be an official rule for sure.

People who are new to the forum think that they will post long and question-filled posts, so that will give them merit, but when they take a good look at the forum, they understand that to get merit, long texts are not needed but informative content is needed, but all this takes time, no one learns and everyone is stuck in some way or the other.

This forum is not at all for those who are not fond of reading, those who don't read others' posts and comments, new topics come into their minds and they go ahead and create new threads. Instead, if they scroll around the forum and look at people's posts and comments, they will get answers to every question they have in their minds, because all kinds of topics are already open on this forum and are in discussion.

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June 27, 2024, 04:13:18 PM
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Something that seems to me very well if you do it in an honest way and put effort and commitment, because the money you earn in an honest way is a measure of the success you have, of the value you bring to society.
But some people contribute little or nothing but get to full member and join campaign. People that are very useful on this forum have most of their posts on the first page of discussion threads while just few on the second and third page of discussion threads while very little on more than third page of discussion threads.
But you are not wrong because I noticed that these good posters are on one of the best campaigns on this forum and they have better reputation and thick skin.
I won't really use the first page or second page to determine people who are useful to this forum. For me You know people that are useful to the forum by the quality of post they make. Have you considered global time difference before you made this assumption? Everbody can't be awake at the same time and be active in the forum 24 hours to make sure their posts appears in the first Page or second page. You can only contribute to a discussion at the point you meet it, so it won't be wise to generalize that people who post from the 3 page upward are not useful to the forum.

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June 27, 2024, 04:34:05 PM
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Problem with a lot of them is they didn't bother to do a research.
It's because they don't want reading. If they want to read, they will try to search and ask How to search effectively.

Their barrier is their attitude and if they don't change it, they will not care what we write and discuss to guide them. It's simply, they don't care to read any post, any thread.
Many of the newbies now coming into the forum are basically focused on sprint-growth forgetting that growth is all about a gradual process to which if you want to jump processes you be shooting yourself in the leg.  Stepping into a new environment it's expected that the first things done is to take a stroll around the environment to learn and acquaint yourself with important notices and  guidelines to avoid asking questions in amiss or repetitions.

On a different perspective too, the forum may also view a newbie account that is not found wanting with all those newbie-related attitudes and think it's not really a newbie but an alt... Probably why some newcomers will want to go the normal newbies ways which can be silly though.
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Many of the newbies now coming into the forum are basically focused on sprint-growth forgetting that growth is all about a gradual process to which if you want to jump processes you be shooting yourself in the leg.  Stepping into a new environment it's expected that the first things done is to take a stroll around the environment to learn and acquaint yourself with important notices and  guidelines to avoid asking questions in amiss or repetitions.

On a different perspective too, the forum may also view a newbie account that is not found wanting with all those newbie-related attitudes and think it's not really a newbie but an alt... Probably why some newcomers will want to go the normal newbies ways which can be silly though.
as OP stated, they are motivated because of the money they can earn from participating in signature campaigns. they want to move up the rankings quickly so they ignore good processes. they forget the forum rules and their mistakes remain the same, they mostly don't read.

there are no problems with new accounts that have broad insight. It's just that from their posts we will know whether they made the post from their own thoughts or just plagiarized. they know or are alt. It was only a matter of time that they were revealed.

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Something that seems to me very well if you do it in an honest way and put effort and commitment, because the money you earn in an honest way is a measure of the success you have, of the value you bring to society.
But some people contribute little or nothing but get to full member and join campaign. People that are very useful on this forum have most of their posts on the first page of discussion threads while just few on the second and third page of discussion threads while very little on more than third page of discussion threads.
But you are not wrong because I noticed that these good posters are on one of the best campaigns on this forum and they have better reputation and thick skin.
I won't really use the first page or second page to determine people who are useful to this forum. For me You know people that are useful to the forum by the quality of post they make. Have you considered global time difference before you made this assumption? Everbody can't be awake at the same time and be active in the forum 24 hours to make sure their posts appears in the first Page or second page. You can only contribute to a discussion at the point you meet it, so it won't be wise to generalize that people who post from the 3 page upward are not useful to the forum.
Hope you are reading what people are posting on the each m page? I think you are not reading it. If you are reading it, you will understand what I posted that it is true. If you sleep and wake up and only think to read the OP and post immediately after the second page without reading what other people have posted, you will repeat what others have posted and that kind of spamming is common on this forum.

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Many of the newbies now coming into the forum are basically focused on sprint-growth forgetting that growth is all about a gradual process to which if you want to jump processes you be shooting yourself in the leg.  Stepping into a new environment it's expected that the first things done is to take a stroll around the environment to learn and acquaint yourself with important notices and  guidelines to avoid asking questions in amiss or repetitions.

On a different perspective too, the forum may also view a newbie account that is not found wanting with all those newbie-related attitudes and think it's not really a newbie but an alt... Probably why some newcomers will want to go the normal newbies ways which can be silly though.
as OP stated, they are motivated because of the money they can earn from participating in signature campaigns. they want to move up the rankings quickly so they ignore good processes. they forget the forum rules and their mistakes remain the same, they mostly don't read.

there are no problems with new accounts that have broad insight. It's just that from their posts we will know whether they made the post from their own thoughts or just plagiarized. they know or are alt. It was only a matter of time that they were revealed.
Newbies can actually do better. You are not wrong about all your observations and your conclusion is very accurate. Once these newbies grow and join signature campaigns, they will never have the kind of opportunity they have  now to actually learn about Bitcoin, altcoins and particularly about this forum. We wouldn't be talking about spams and other related offences if members had the right orientation about this forum and its activities right from when they joined the forum aside from just thinking about the money they'll make if they eventually rank up. I can't really say for others but as for me, their are some information I get here that have been so beneficial to me, I just wish newbies and every other members will also see that there is more to this forum than just signature campaigns.

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It seems you are tired of all this questions asked by newbies about how to succeed and how to make money or earn merits. We are all tired but what can we do about it since everyone has the right to post what they pleases and no amount of talk or complain can make newbies who are desperate to make money act sensibly.
The problem is that, the newbies are not making use of the advise given to them by other higher rank members, and they don’t usually read other threads before making decision to post their own thread and they are always failing to check pin thread and also failed to use the search function to check if the question they are about to asked has been asked before now so that they can just read the thread to get solutions to their problems.

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If they can ignore pinned threads what do you think will happen to this post, this thread will probably go down the pages in weeks to come having no serious impact on newbies to come after. That’s just how they are, i think we just have to tolerate these questions and educate them as they come as the elders of this forum.

To succeed anywhere one have to take charge and put things in their own hands else they will achieve nothing.
Exactly, you have to take responsibility of making it in any environment before you can succeed, but most newbies after advices and several comments, they remain unchanged.

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Don't open a thread asking what you have to do, that's what you have to do. If you do that what you are indicating is that you are a lazy person who has no initiative and is waiting for everything to be served on a platter to make money here. Because that's the end, no need to dissemble.
It depends on what you're talking about.. haven't we got people that ask constructive questions and are not getting paid in here ?. If anyone decides to stay on point, it's not basically about the earnings - it could be a motivation in some type of ways.

It's not going to be "get rich quick without doing much for it", no! You don't rank up quick for nothing, forget it. It's gonna be quite some work, unless you have a lot of valuable knowledge and a lot to offer for many readers which they may deem worth merits. Be sure, this doesn't come for free, either.
See the thing is; the energy definitely has to match up your consistency... You could be there at the right time, but not with the right audience to merit you for the quality. Eitherways, you could also come up with an idea top-notch, but you've got pages and pages for merit sources to read through, which doesn't still give you a chance... What really propells your cycle is how the whole timing catches up with you at the same TIME. [y'all take a look at Gloves. Happy for you man.]

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June 27, 2024, 10:26:58 PM
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I really liked how you made your words clear and understanding than all these repeating posts coming from newbies who act like they can advise their fellow newbies on what to do in the forum to rank up or be successful in crypto while they are in no way successful or ranked up that much to dish other newbies as well.

However, newbies can act funny at times when they gain a little knowledge about the forum or crypto. That's when you see them act as if they have arrived. making posts to advise others, while those who feel less of themselves then start to repeat already asked questions. That is the behavior I observed in beginners.
It's okay for newbies to act funny at times but they should not remain dumb the whole time. Instead, they need to take a lot of efforts as beginners to grow and establish their spot in the forum, like we always did when we were at their position. Yes, there is no competition inside the forum, but know that you will always be left behind if you don't do your best establishing your own identity in the forum.

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