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August 28, 2024, 07:46:28 PM
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What do you guys think, is this concept or idea a good one? Will you accept such request?
I am just coming acrosss this thread, and i find your question interesting, so i'd give my own two cents.

I don't like the idea of a "group bet", it can cause problems. That being said, if i must do it, it has to be with family or friends that are as close as family, that way i am almost certain that problems wouldn't arise and if problems should ever arise, i'd not blame myself too much, because of the people involved in the whole thing.

What problems could "group bet" cause? Everyone makes his own decision to place a bet or not. Or your idea was that if a bet looses, one of the bettors will blame the other because he believed in his prediction or decision? It is a matter of trust then. Again it will be silly to blame someone for a loss. Personally I dont like the idea of a "group bet" because I see no benefit from that. The size of a bet does not impact on odds or win chance. Everyone still will receive same amount if everyone would have made an individual bet.
Betting in this way can cause some problems, one of the biggest ones is that in the case of a big win one of the players may claim the prize money and run away with it, something that it has happened many times on the past and it has even make the news, that being said, whenever we receive an offer like that from someone that is not a close person to us, the best thing we can do is to reject it, because the problems such a decision can carry do not outweigh the advantages we receive from it, that in this case are nonexistent.
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August 29, 2024, 02:27:53 AM
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it is true that no one does not know what will happen later, even though they have an agreement at the beginning that does agree to share their winnings fairly and evenly, but that does not guarantee that they will not experience conflict considering that everyone is sensitive to money so there is still a possibility that they can experience conflict with one of them having thoughts or feelings of greed that suddenly appear when they have succeeded in winning.
It is true that gambling using your own money is more comfortable because we are the only ones who will bear everything, whether we win or lose, but what is wrong is when we lose and get emotional and then take it out on other people. This is also something that must be prevented from happening because it is unethical when we lose and take it out on other people.
On the moment if someone would really be getting a hold of an amount that they havent been able to expericence for the rest of your life then high chances or tendency that you would really be running with those funds. Just like on what some people been saying on here that never ever trust up someone when it comes to money because it is really that something that will really be giving out that possible urge for someone to commit such bullshit action just because of money. Speaking about in between friends then it wouldnt really be that consider to be all something like this or for it to happen precisely. It is really just that there would really be those possible instances that could happen and we've seen this one on where there would really be those winnings that been ran off into of someone specially if the amount would be significant.

Relationships would really be that turning out to be broken on the time or moment that money greed would be kicking in.Also, why would really be trying out to make those pooled funds on making betting if you could
really that actually be able to make yourself bet on your own. There's no added fun when you do make out bets in together with other people on which you could be actually be able to enjoy and feel up the
thrill on the time that you are the ones who would really be doing such stuff.
it is undeniable that people will change when they have a lot of money, just like in gambling where someone can change when they win a large amount. and if we bet by combining our money and our friends' money, there will likely be conflict or a sense of selfishness and greed between each other. therefore it is better for us to use our own money to bet, and it is true what you said not to trust someone in terms of money must be considered, even though we trust someone but it must be remembered that someone can change at any time.

when greed arises between the betting parties then gambling is no longer about winning but about the relationship where the relationship is at stake, to prevent this from happening I think we should be able to bet using our own money therefore looking at yourself is important, do not force yourself to bet because there is no guarantee that the results will be positive.

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August 29, 2024, 04:57:52 AM
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What problems could "group bet" cause? Everyone makes his own decision to place a bet or not. Or your idea was that if a bet looses, one of the bettors will blame the other because he believed in his prediction or decision? It is a matter of trust then. Again it will be silly to blame someone for a loss. Personally I dont like the idea of a "group bet" because I see no benefit from that. The size of a bet does not impact on odds or win chance. Everyone still will receive same amount if everyone would have made an individual bet.
Betting in this way can cause some problems, one of the biggest ones is that in the case of a big win one of the players may claim the prize money and run away with it, something that it has happened many times on the past and it has even make the news, that being said, whenever we receive an offer like that from someone that is not a close person to us, the best thing we can do is to reject it, because the problems such a decision can carry do not outweigh the advantages we receive from it, that in this case are nonexistent.
Well, that the main concern that can also cause split in friendship or kinship, just because of certain amount of money from gambling wins, have to be willing to experience such problems.
But actually it is still very rare for one party to claim victory and run away with all the money because in betting with money collected everyone will definitely gather and wait together for the results to come out.
In my opinion, what often happens is in the division where there is one party who feels they deserve the most from the amount of victory, this will be debate that could possibly lead to fight.
Moreover, if this kind of bet is made with an offer to join people who are not known, then it can be much riskier, there will be something that might be much worse when victory is achieved and I agree with you that it is better to refuse such an offer.

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August 29, 2024, 10:20:26 AM
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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.

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August 29, 2024, 10:26:51 AM
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What do you guys think, is this concept or idea a good one? Will you accept such request?
I am just coming acrosss this thread, and i find your question interesting, so i'd give my own two cents.

I don't like the idea of a "group bet", it can cause problems. That being said, if i must do it, it has to be with family or friends that are as close as family, that way i am almost certain that problems wouldn't arise and if problems should ever arise, i'd not blame myself too much, because of the people involved in the whole thing.

What problems could "group bet" cause? Everyone makes his own decision to place a bet or not. Or your idea was that if a bet looses, one of the bettors will blame the other because he believed in his prediction or decision? It is a matter of trust then. Again it will be silly to blame someone for a loss. Personally I dont like the idea of a "group bet" because I see no benefit from that. The size of a bet does not impact on odds or win chance. Everyone still will receive same amount if everyone would have made an individual bet.
Betting in this way can cause some problems, one of the biggest ones is that in the case of a big win one of the players may claim the prize money and run away with it, something that it has happened many times on the past and it has even make the news, that being said, whenever we receive an offer like that from someone that is not a close person to us, the best thing we can do is to reject it, because the problems such a decision can carry do not outweigh the advantages we receive from it, that in this case are nonexistent.

I can only say that a person must know his friends. But for me it looks childish. Then what stops a person from running away with collective money, instead of risking and placing a collective bet? I see only risks or negative aura in collective bets. (2*2) + (2*2) is the same as 4*2. Perhaps it wont be so pity to lose, when you and your friend both have decided to place that one specific bet, but nevertheless a loss is a loss.

 
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August 30, 2024, 03:48:27 PM
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In my circle of friends, this is absolutely normal. My friend has a specific job and he only has a phone with a connection but no Internet, and sometimes he can call and ask to place a bet for him and then one of my friends bets and upon arrival he gives money for the bet and part of the winnings. There was never a time when he didn’t give the money, because a person values ​​​​friendship.

Well your case example seems good but still that doesn't deny the fact that whenever money is involved in something especially among friends who are gambling, there is definitely a high tendency that one person might turn greedy and make the whole thing sideways so I have learnt through my experience although the kind of friends too matter but I would stand my ground that I would rather meet someone different than play be in same feat as my friend.
Whether the betting is with your friends or strangers (as you like it), it still doesn't matter. It could even be safer in the hands of your friend than the stranger you know little or nothing about. Among friends, anything can happen truly, which i why you should know the kind of friend you entrust such money to their hands and know the amount you can trust with them. You can also fight to be the custodial of the money if you have a trust issue, so it's nothing serious at all.

My main concern is the bad influence of friends on betting, you might have a lot of arguments before you guys align with a bet, but this is not so convenient. At times too, you might want a certain option and the majority voted against it, but in the end, if it happens to go your way, you will be hurt. These are the reasons I will always advocate personal betting, and if at all I want external advice, it will be at my sole discretion whether to use it or not. Nothing like being independent, bro.

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August 30, 2024, 04:03:29 PM
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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.

You need to trust your friends to be able to do that and the money can be a bit on the high side too, just as long as nobody is cheating. I'm not greedy and if I won 10k with my friend I'd surely split the money. I've often been given valuable stuff by my friends, for instance cars to go somewhere, keys to the house and I never even thought about stealing from them.

It's very simple really and can be described in a short phrase.
I like this quote from Billy Butcher: Just don't be a cunt.

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August 30, 2024, 05:16:04 PM
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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.
Yes, sure we can playing gambling with our friend using small money to enjoy the moment. But we must be able to say it is enough to playing gambling for some time and not accept their invitation if they ask us to keep playing gambling. Sometime if we can not hold ourselves from keeping from continuing playing gambling, that can make a little debate with our friends. We can remind them that we only want to enjoy the moment and not for the other reason so we can stop from playing gambling anytime we want and let them continue for playing gambling if they want to do that. Having fun with our friends will be a good time for us because we can feels the happy moment when we win together with them and the sad moment because we lose our money with them.

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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.

Something to reminds you in terms of valuing your friendship, if it's not that huge it can push as entertaiment but most of the time when the amount of money is huge there's are cases that it tempts a person to turn down the freindship and take the money, it's better to seperately do your gambling and just share the ideas or just comes out with the same pick with seperate or own tickets.

It helps to avoid that temptation to forget your friendship and ruin things because of the amount of money that involves.

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September 01, 2024, 05:50:03 PM
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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.
Yes, sure we can playing gambling with our friend using small money to enjoy the moment. But we must be able to say it is enough to playing gambling for some time and not accept their invitation if they ask us to keep playing gambling. Sometime if we can not hold ourselves from keeping from continuing playing gambling, that can make a little debate with our friends. We can remind them that we only want to enjoy the moment and not for the other reason so we can stop from playing gambling anytime we want and let them continue for playing gambling if they want to do that. Having fun with our friends will be a good time for us because we can feels the happy moment when we win together with them and the sad moment because we lose our money with them.

I agree with your opinion. We can gamble with friends, but we should not bet very large amounts. And we should not bet on irrelevant things. More importantly, gambling should never become an addiction.

When we friends get together we play cards. And there is occasional gambling. We bet but of course it doesn't mean big amount. The amount we spend is the amount we can afford to spend, or the amount we won't incur any major losses. Also, another important thing is that we don't take money home. We give parties or tours with this money. So there is never any quarrel between our friends over gambling. Even if one loses money he is happy. Because we know very well that this money will be spent for our pleasure. This made our friendship stronger.

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September 01, 2024, 05:59:56 PM
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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.

Something to reminds you in terms of valuing your friendship, if it's not that huge it can push as entertaiment but most of the time when the amount of money is huge there's are cases that it tempts a person to turn down the freindship and take the money, it's better to seperately do your gambling and just share the ideas or just comes out with the same pick with seperate or own tickets.

It helps to avoid that temptation to forget your friendship and ruin things because of the amount of money that involves.

yes, problems like big money often ruin our friendships or colleagues at work. betting with friends by accepting advice and discussions from them is fun. it's like we're chatting with people with the same hobby. small bets won't affect the fun. but with big money of course it's risky.

although it's fun to bet with friends in a warm chat. but remember we have to limit ourselves in this matter. when you lose with small money, you can still laugh with your friends. but when with big money and you win, it can be something bad for your friends who don't like it.
Making bets alone and separate from others is more comfortable for me.

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September 01, 2024, 06:02:59 PM
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Something to reminds you in terms of valuing your friendship, if it's not that huge it can push as entertaiment but most of the time when the amount of money is huge there's are cases that it tempts a person to turn down the freindship and take the money, it's better to seperately do your gambling and just share the ideas or just comes out with the same pick with seperate or own tickets.

It helps to avoid that temptation to forget your friendship and ruin things because of the amount of money that involves.
We must choose the option of betting separately to avoid problems with our friends, sometimes another case can happen when you lose and your friend will blame you for the reason that you have given a bad betting idea.

Anything can happen without us expecting it beforehand is that he will run away with the gambling winnings or he will blame you if you lose, if you want your friendship to remain good then the right choice is to gamble separately so that all the winnings and losses are not related to others.
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It was an interesting idea to be honest, but I really was wondering if it was the right thing to do, remembering one incident that happened last year where two friends put money together in a bet, bet won, amount was really huge, the other stole the ticket ran away and cashed the entire money from a very far place, leaving the other guy with nothing.

What do you guys think, is this concept or idea a good one? Will you accept such request?

I don't really involve myself in such group betting with either friends or family cause basically it's not like it's a bad idea but the fact that I can't trust anyone with money except I personally give such persons that money. So I won't be comfortable doing such group betting on sports I rather do it on my own.

This things happens most times and like they say once bitten twice shy, so with this you wouldn't want to try that with anybody,tho I enjoy the fun of staking money together on bets to win huge amounts an it's really fun  you know seeing everyone in the group trying to target the focus goals but where it becomes hurtful is when there's an existence of a judas among the group members, cause necessarily in such group projects of sorts there's one particular person that will oppose on one aspect or the other so I rather bet on my own.

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September 01, 2024, 06:04:11 PM
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It would be very interesting if your friends are like-minded and well informed in that particular sport for instance in soccer betting you intended to gamble on, in soccer bet matches can be collectively analyzed with individual or participants input before picking the final games and if possible accumulate the odds thereafter place the bet, I believe it would be fun doing it after all money earned would be shared equally while if bet is lost everyone would equally share the losses thus I don't think it's a bad idea to  put money together to bet  or gamble, however remember to also gamble on the amount of money you can afford to lose.

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September 01, 2024, 06:43:39 PM
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It was an interesting idea to be honest, but I really was wondering if it was the right thing to do, remembering one incident that happened last year where two friends put money together in a bet, bet won, amount was really huge, the other stole the ticket ran away and cashed the entire money from a very far place, leaving the other guy with nothing.

What do you guys think, is this concept or idea a good one? Will you accept such request?

I don't really involve myself in such group betting with either friends or family cause basically it's not like it's a bad idea but the fact that I can't trust anyone with money except I personally give such persons that money. So I won't be comfortable doing such group betting on sports I rather do it on my own.

This things happens most times and like they say once bitten twice shy, so with this you wouldn't want to try that with anybody,tho I enjoy the fun of staking money together on bets to win huge amounts an it's really fun  you know seeing everyone in the group trying to target the focus goals but where it becomes hurtful is when there's an existence of a judas among the group members, cause necessarily in such group projects of sorts there's one particular person that will oppose on one aspect or the other so I rather bet on my own.
Trust no one when it comes to money and if you do have a friend who do have that kind of offer about pooling up some funds then it would be better that you should reject or avoid it out.
Although just make it sure that your friend wont get offended on the moment that you do decline or reject out such offer because there are really friends who are really that too sensitive.  Grin

Going back about trusting up no one, then when it comes to money then everyone could really be that greedy.Also, its never been that appealing nor recommended that you
do play up some betting and giving out money into someone specially on online world where you cant be able to do something when shit things happen.

Better to bet on your own and never ever having that kind of entrusting up your funds and make yourself be blinded out by possibility of those
bad situations on which it might lead up into destroying relationships with your friends just because of money. So its better to make out bets on solo mode.

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It would be very interesting if your friends are like-minded and well informed in that particular sport for instance in soccer betting you intended to gamble on, in soccer bet matches can be collectively analyzed with individual or participants input before picking the final games and if possible accumulate the odds thereafter place the bet, I believe it would be fun doing it after all money earned would be shared equally while if bet is lost everyone would equally share the losses thus I don't think it's a bad idea to  put money together to bet  or gamble, however remember to also gamble on the amount of money you can afford to lose.
I bet on boxing with my friends, although we rarely do it, but we gather a whole community on this occasion since our favorite athlete performs 1-2 times a year and for us it’s a whole event and we all watch the fight together. With football, it’s easier for everyone to bet to your favorite club separately since we are fans of different clubs.

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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.

That's true going with such idea shows that you are no longer gambling for fun rather you are gambling just to multiply your money , because they will be like when our money is together it will be bigger, so the win will be bigger also . Which is wrong because there's no guarantees you guys are going win just by putting your money together, the best thing to do is to keep using the amount you can afford and do yours alone to avoid any form of issues.

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it is true that no one does not know what will happen later, even though they have an agreement at the beginning that does agree to share their winnings fairly and evenly, but that does not guarantee that they will not experience conflict considering that everyone is sensitive to money so there is still a possibility that they can experience conflict with one of them having thoughts or feelings of greed that suddenly appear when they have succeeded in winning.
It is true that gambling using your own money is more comfortable because we are the only ones who will bear everything, whether we win or lose, but what is wrong is when we lose and get emotional and then take it out on other people. This is also something that must be prevented from happening because it is unethical when we lose and take it out on other people.
On the moment if someone would really be getting a hold of an amount that they havent been able to expericence for the rest of your life then high chances or tendency that you would really be running with those funds. Just like on what some people been saying on here that never ever trust up someone when it comes to money because it is really that something that will really be giving out that possible urge for someone to commit such bullshit action just because of money. Speaking about in between friends then it wouldnt really be that consider to be all something like this or for it to happen precisely. It is really just that there would really be those possible instances that could happen and we've seen this one on where there would really be those winnings that been ran off into of someone specially if the amount would be significant.

Relationships would really be that turning out to be broken on the time or moment that money greed would be kicking in.Also, why would really be trying out to make those pooled funds on making betting if you could
really that actually be able to make yourself bet on your own. There's no added fun when you do make out bets in together with other people on which you could be actually be able to enjoy and feel up the
thrill on the time that you are the ones who would really be doing such stuff.
it is undeniable that people will change when they have a lot of money, just like in gambling where someone can change when they win a large amount. and if we bet by combining our money and our friends' money, there will likely be conflict or a sense of selfishness and greed between each other. therefore it is better for us to use our own money to bet, and it is true what you said not to trust someone in terms of money must be considered, even though we trust someone but it must be remembered that someone can change at any time.

when greed arises between the betting parties then gambling is no longer about winning but about the relationship where the relationship is at stake, to prevent this from happening I think we should be able to bet using our own money therefore looking at yourself is important, do not force yourself to bet because there is no guarantee that the results will be positive.
Considering that its really that a part of human nature on which on the time that we are really that having that exposure into tons of money specially on an amount that you havent been able to hold or experience before then greed will really be something that would be coming out into these kind of situations on which further actions will really be basing up on how greedy you would be. Most of people could be able to control that thing but there are individuals who do really ends up on making such step that it isnt really just that right to be done. Spending or getting those funds or money which isnt owned by you then it will really be bringing up that huge trouble if this case happens considering that no one would really be liking on the thing that you would really be doing on which its a normal thing.

Just like on what everyone is really that telling or saying above that its better to bet on your own and its the most entertaining thing and there's no such difference in between into those people who are really
that doing these group bets. It would really be just that according into your own preference and liking but if you dont like on potential trouble then you could skip on this one.

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September 07, 2024, 06:41:51 PM
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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.

That's true going with such idea shows that you are no longer gambling for fun rather you are gambling just to multiply your money , because they will be like when our money is together it will be bigger, so the win will be bigger also . Which is wrong because there's no guarantees you guys are going win just by putting your money together, the best thing to do is to keep using the amount you can afford and do yours alone to avoid any form of issues.
You wouldnt really be having no feeling of regrets on the time that you would really be able to have that losing bet just because you do know that you are the only one who do make out some bet.
You are the ones who do make the bet and the ones who would be able to hold up in case you do win. Yes, it understandable that the money is pooled would be resulting on a huge wins too
but just like on what most people been focusing or telling into that there's a tendency that it would really be ran away and that would really be a huge disappointment on your part.
So it will really be much better that you should bet on your own and having no worries in regarding about this manner. You are the ones who would really be doing such decisions in regarding to this stuff.

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September 07, 2024, 07:14:36 PM
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If the money is small it should be fun, mind you it is all about your friends, people do this to enjoy times with their friends.

Some people will end up been betrayed by one Judas in the group, when money is involved it is possible that you will be betrayed, this is why knowing your friends is important, i won't dare go with this idea if the money is big.

To have some fun money doesn't have to be involved and if it is a must to use money then it should the amount that is much affordable by you and your friends.

That's true going with such idea shows that you are no longer gambling for fun rather you are gambling just to multiply your money , because they will be like when our money is together it will be bigger, so the win will be bigger also . Which is wrong because there's no guarantees you guys are going win just by putting your money together, the best thing to do is to keep using the amount you can afford and do yours alone to avoid any form of issues.
You wouldnt really be having no feeling of regrets on the time that you would really be able to have that losing bet just because you do know that you are the only one who do make out some bet.
You are the ones who do make the bet and the ones who would be able to hold up in case you do win. Yes, it understandable that the money is pooled would be resulting on a huge wins too
but just like on what most people been focusing or telling into that there's a tendency that it would really be ran away and that would really be a huge disappointment on your part.
So it will really be much better that you should bet on your own and having no worries in regarding about this manner. You are the ones who would really be doing such decisions in regarding to this stuff.

Exactly, like imagine you went to the extent of bringing the game you guys are going to bet on and the rest agrees , if the game goes to you guys and you guys endup winning they will be happy and may not take it as a big deal, but in a scenario the game endup not going you guys way you will be the one to be blamed , because it was you that choose the game , and they forget the fact that in gambling either you win or you lose .

But I Stance is your personal money without adding any one else money , even when you lose you won't feel that bad and you can easily move on with it .

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