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World resources are not infinity the minerals clean water clean air and oil.
If there is plenty of oil..then to digg ground to get oil will damage the envoirement.
Untfortunately the only way for many will be you either have all or nothing financially and If you have it now the taxes going higher the debt % go higher aswell. You have to choose wich side you will be the one who have a lot or the one who got nothing. In the future i guess goverment will provide to you housing and Job. Some % of people must remain with the rights to have it all because If you take from them it's never easy so only very few can still have wealth. Fall of UK the british empire show's exacly that money printing is over all the money what was made of commodities and natural resources africa India and even russia was using London markets a lot for trading. But it's ended now no more markets no more money printing so clearly it show's that first priofity is not people wealth and financial situation but to save envoirement so at least very few have resources of plenty to enjoy life fullest.
Nothing comes for Free in life sooner or later the price will be taken of soul living entetie now from humans. With human happiness you destroy the wealth with human suffering you create the wealth.
But society Understood wrong things ...why people need money ? They don't need all what the people need is food and housing and health care and Job to be productive. People worry about money and their finances becouse of fear If they fall there is no support but once it changes and world become more socialism world then there is no need for surplus and greedy mind..the more more more !
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Faisal2202
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July 02, 2024, 01:11:54 PM |
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I either understand what you said or not at all 🙄 I suggest you to write in a simpler way, maybe try to make bullet points of your post instead of writing them in between where you want, try to give a shape to your post otherwise you might not get some good replies to your point of view about UK's economy. Plus you are talking a lot about the UK since the inception of your account. Are you a UK citizen (which I assume you are?).
You are right that governments have a hell lot of control over all sectors of life, and people are after money like they don't need anything else. Few people understand there is life to chill but most of the youngsters (Gen-Z) are after money, it's like either they have been taught or are so motivated that they want to make money and spend day and night to earn it. I know you are talking about how resources can't be unlimited and how governments are focusing the interest of people on one or two things to keep them busy. I see it as a diversion they want us to keep in a cycle where we are born, spend 16 years studying and searching for a job, earn money, and have some fun maybe then die. Haha, bro that's life, that's not only happening in the UK that's happening all over the world except for those who don't need money. I suggest you to join Start Trek haha.
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July 02, 2024, 04:51:07 PM |
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This is concerning for us all. We are not seeing the effect of it right now but our future generation will observe it for sure. This is the reason the world is trying to find an alternative, eco friendly source of power. Electricity is the most valuable innovation in our lives, and most of the minerals are related to generating electricity or somehow being used by it. So if we can manage to use solar power or ocean current to generate power like electricity then other minerals consumption to produce electricity, will be reduced.
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July 02, 2024, 05:10:32 PM |
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This is concerning for us all. We are not seeing the effect of it right now but our future generation will observe it for sure. This is the reason the world is trying to find an alternative, eco friendly source of power. Electricity is the most valuable innovation in our lives, and most of the minerals are related to generating electricity or somehow being used by it. So if we can manage to use solar power or ocean current to generate power like electricity then other minerals consumption to produce electricity, will be reduced.
Humans always adapt in whatever situation. But right now there is already technology that can make things happen. It's just the government that is preventing all things from happening. For example, the car powered by water (hydrogen), this kind of technology was already patented a long time ago. Still, the big oil industry is stopping it from prospering since it affects the economy. Comes a time when oil is no more I guess we'd be using water already. AFAIK Toyota already has hydrogen cars.
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July 02, 2024, 05:21:13 PM |
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Humans always adapt in whatever situation. But right now there is already technology that can make things happen. It's just the government that is preventing all things from happening. For example, the car powered by water (hydrogen), this kind of technology was already patented a long time ago. Still, the big oil industry is stopping it from prospering since it affects the economy.
Comes a time when oil is no more I guess we'd be using water already. AFAIK Toyota already has hydrogen cars.
There are several unlimited resources, such as Water, Air, Sunlight and Sea, and experts in our country have thought about it in order to anticipate a shortage of resources from electricity and fuel oil, but the government has not allocated all of them, because they cannot guarantee about productivity from unlimited resources, which will cause deep anxiety for all of us, one day electricity and fuel oil will disappear. We can already anticipate this when we now start little by little starting from non-existent natural resources. Finally, we can practice from now on vehicles that use hydrogen so that later we won't be too indifferent when electric power and fuel oil disappear.
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July 02, 2024, 05:28:03 PM |
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This is concerning for us all. We are not seeing the effect of it right now but our future generation will observe it for sure. This is the reason the world is trying to find an alternative, eco friendly source of power. Electricity is the most valuable innovation in our lives, and most of the minerals are related to generating electricity or somehow being used by it. So if we can manage to use solar power or ocean current to generate power like electricity then other minerals consumption to produce electricity, will be reduced.
Humans always adapt in whatever situation. But right now there is already technology that can make things happen. It's just the government that is preventing all things from happening. For example, the car powered by water (hydrogen), this kind of technology was already patented a long time ago. Still, the big oil industry is stopping it from prospering since it affects the economy. Comes a time when oil is no more I guess we'd be using water already. AFAIK Toyota already has hydrogen cars. It's not the government then. It's those corporations that are making a profit by selling oil. But how long they can keep doing this do you think? The electric car is already been very popular in our society. Even China is thinking about replacing all of their oil-powered cars with electric ones. I am not very confident about water power car as the industry won't promote something that won't be profitable for them till they figure out some other way to make profit out of it.
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July 02, 2024, 07:47:11 PM |
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But society Understood wrong things ...why people need money ? They don't need all what the people need is food and housing and health care and Job to be productive. People worry about money and their finances becouse of fear If they fall there is no support but once it changes and world become more socialism world then there is no need for surplus and greedy mind..the more more more !
You might have your ideas but, I’ll say you should go look up the history of money and how it has come to what it is today to fully appreciate its continued existence. We’ve long past the era where one has to use food for the bases of everything you know. Food, shelter and clothing might be the basic need of a person but, that shouldn’t undermine the fact that, one needs all these other intricacies to enjoy life and that’s what money helps you to archive. It actually quantifies and values product. Money is a measure of worth and I don’t see how we could have accurately qualified products without money. Some scales could be tipped even and as such, money because the proper measure to qualify and quantify products.
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July 02, 2024, 08:42:42 PM |
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World resources are not infinity the minerals clean water clean air and oil.
If there is plenty of oil..then to digg ground to get oil will damage the envoirement.
Untfortunately the only way for many will be you either have all or nothing financially and If you have it now the taxes going higher the debt % go higher aswell. You have to choose wich side you will be the one who have a lot or the one who got nothing. In the future i guess goverment will provide to you housing and Job. Some % of people must remain with the rights to have it all because If you take from them it's never easy so only very few can still have wealth. Fall of UK the british empire show's exacly that money printing is over all the money what was made of commodities and natural resources africa India and even russia was using London markets a lot for trading. But it's ended now no more markets no more money printing so clearly it show's that first priofity is not people wealth and financial situation but to save envoirement so at least very few have resources of plenty to enjoy life fullest.
Nothing comes for Free in life sooner or later the price will be taken of soul living entetie now from humans. With human happiness you destroy the wealth with human suffering you create the wealth.
But society Understood wrong things ...why people need money ? They don't need all what the people need is food and housing and health care and Job to be productive. People worry about money and their finances becouse of fear If they fall there is no support but once it changes and world become more socialism world then there is no need for surplus and greedy mind..the more more more !
You're better off not trying to guess or even fathom the numbers behind certain resources, especially things like oil. Many people have tried to correctly predict when it will run out, when it will hit peak oil and many other scenarios but lots of people have lost money trying to place the wrong bets on it. It's weird you mention the British Empire because it was nothing to do with the rest of the topic that you describe, it just got over taken by America which had much more room to maneuver and grow in comparison - not surrounded and battling enemies for centuries. Your analysis seems to be very erratic and jumps all over the place without a proper foundation to it. You're asking why people need money? Best to go back to school for such fundamental questions.
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July 02, 2024, 09:08:01 PM |
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...why people need money ? They don't need all what the people need is food and housing and health care and Job to be productive.
Why? Because the things you have mentioned can only be gained through money, and a government cannot feed or provide housing for a whole nation, they can only do what they can but people will need to find jobs and earn money to live their lives, this is why job opportunities are created. There will be no productivity if everything is provided for free to everyone, you can't expect someone to work when they are getting food and shelter without having to spend anything from their pocket, and a government or even a private firm can't keep monitoring the activities of every individual within a country and don't provide them with anything if they aren't working. So, the world is fine the way it is, it's just that some people overdo it, and they are not wrong because the world is changing, money is everything nowadays. You are respected and remembered because of what you have and not what you are, unfortunately.
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July 03, 2024, 04:30:12 AM |
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There are several unlimited resources, such as Water, Air, Sunlight and Sea, and experts in our country have thought about it in order to anticipate a shortage of resources from electricity and fuel oil, but the government has not allocated all of them, because they cannot guarantee about productivity from unlimited resources, which will cause deep anxiety for all of us, one day electricity and fuel oil will disappear. We can already anticipate this when we now start little by little starting from non-existent natural resources. Finally, we can practice from now on vehicles that use hydrogen so that later we won't be too indifferent when electric power and fuel oil disappear.
The ready-made natural resources to which man had a purely consumer attitude are not endless. But in general, the resources that a person needs to exist are infinite. We live in a rough physical world, in which a person is constantly surrounded by more significant or less significant resources in the form of various chemical elements that combine with each other to form significantly complex substances. A person can always learn to convert some chemicals into others that are more useful for humans, and here the possibilities are simply endless.
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July 03, 2024, 06:58:02 AM |
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Comes a time when oil is no more I guess we'd be using water already. AFAIK Toyota already has hydrogen cars.
From what I gather such vehicles don't consume water, they emit water. Their fuel cell is also expensive due to the fact that the raw materials needed in their construction are rare metals (like platinum and iridium) that are rather expensive.
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July 03, 2024, 07:28:16 AM |
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There are several unlimited resources, such as Water, Air, Sunlight and Sea, and experts in our country have thought about it in order to anticipate a shortage of resources from electricity and fuel oil, but the government has not allocated all of them, because they cannot guarantee about productivity from unlimited resources, which will cause deep anxiety for all of us, one day electricity and fuel oil will disappear. We can already anticipate this when we now start little by little starting from non-existent natural resources. Finally, we can practice from now on vehicles that use hydrogen so that later we won't be too indifferent when electric power and fuel oil disappear.
You have explained an innovation that is not dependent on electricity and fuel oil, and in general things like that need to be tried by people who have more abilities in order to find out the level of benefits and whether a product like that is good or not. But as we can see now, electricity and fuel oil can still be relied upon as a whole in all sectors in the world. So it is still very difficult to rule out electricity and fuel oil even though new innovations always need to be tried to get an assessment of the benefits from many people.
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July 04, 2024, 04:53:32 PM |
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This is concerning for us all. We are not seeing the effect of it right now but our future generation will observe it for sure. This is the reason the world is trying to find an alternative, eco friendly source of power. Electricity is the most valuable innovation in our lives, and most of the minerals are related to generating electricity or somehow being used by it. So if we can manage to use solar power or ocean current to generate power like electricity then other minerals consumption to produce electricity, will be reduced.
Humans always adapt in whatever situation. But right now there is already technology that can make things happen. It's just the government that is preventing all things from happening. For example, the car powered by water (hydrogen), this kind of technology was already patented a long time ago. Still, the big oil industry is stopping it from prospering since it affects the economy. Comes a time when oil is no more I guess we'd be using water already. AFAIK Toyota already has hydrogen cars. It's not the government then. It's those corporations that are making a profit by selling oil. But how long they can keep doing this do you think? The electric car is already been very popular in our society. Even China is thinking about replacing all of their oil-powered cars with electric ones. I am not very confident about water power car as the industry won't promote something that won't be profitable for them till they figure out some other way to make profit out of it. China is making money out of those electric cars to compete Elon with their cheaper EVs. Maybe they are replacing their cars with EVs but I doubt they are really up to that. It's just making money that's why. EVs are meant in cities but for long hours of drive, they won't last. I really doubt it will be adopted worldwide. Our charging stations will still be using Fossil fuels to power up our batteries so there is no difference. We're just converting oil to storing electricity in the batteries.
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July 04, 2024, 05:17:48 PM |
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We're talking finite resources in a system that acts like it's got an endless supply. We extract minerals and burn oil like the Earth is a feast. This is economic and environmental madness. The more we consume, the deeper we sink. We can't repay this debt with money, dude. Because we desired cheap petrol and sparkling gadgets, future generations are suffering. There's more to finite resources than running out. A fundamental misunderstanding of the world's workings
I understand wealth vs poverty. It exists. The situation is more complicated. It's not just the 1% hoarding cash. A system that promotes personal benefit over all else. We forget the pie is burning because we're afraid of losing our piece. Can we stopped chasing dollars and started chasing well-being? How about making sure everyone has enough instead of just having more than the next guy? That's the conversation we should be having, man
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Hope you are not the type of people waiting for government to give them job or provide food for them before they can become a responsible people in the land, which government will never do such a thing to favor people in the country.
Make use of any opportunity that come your way, which is the best way not to depend on government to become what you want to become in the future, because government resources cannot satisfy everybody in the country but if you can create your own business, you will make a difference in the country that will make other people to follow your step. Any government that make use of their resources very well in their country, it will be hard for their people to experience inflation in their land, because they will make use of their mineral resources to fuel some of the projects that will make their people to experience good governance in the country.
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July 04, 2024, 07:00:32 PM |
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...why people need money ? They don't need all what the people need is food and housing and health care and Job to be productive.
OP, if I am not mistaken, Money should get all these things you mentioned. You don't expect the government to provide everything a human being needs without in any way generating money from it. Don't you even think that if the government of a country provides everything for its citizens for free, do you think there will be a passion for work or hustle for survival coexist among the citizens of that country? By the way, it's through the money being realized from what the government set aside for the growth of its citizens(financial and health-wise) that will still be used in maintaining and procurement of other necessities in the country. A government providing everything for free is one of the last things the government would consider. They can have that done once in a while for a specific reason
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July 04, 2024, 08:07:13 PM |
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But society Understood wrong things ...why people need money ? They don't need all what the people need is food and housing and health care and Job to be productive.
Yes people need food and health care, to have these people need to work to get paid with money. Then with money people can buy and secure their basic needs. That is the reason why people need money. As you stated, there are no free things in the world. One has to work or sell their service to have the capability to provide oneself with the basic necessities and to have that, one needs money to buy or to exchange for these needs.
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July 05, 2024, 09:37:35 AM |
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Hope you are not the type of people waiting for government to give them job or provide food for them before they can become a responsible people in the land, which government will never do such a thing to favor people in the country.
Make use of any opportunity that come your way, which is the best way not to depend on government to become what you want to become in the future, because government resources cannot satisfy everybody in the country but if you can create your own business, you will make a difference in the country that will make other people to follow your step. Any government that make use of their resources very well in their country, it will be hard for their people to experience inflation in their land, because they will make use of their mineral resources to fuel some of the projects that will make their people to experience good governance in the country.
Waiting for help from the government without doing anything is of course a very bad action because as long as we still have the strength to be able to try to do something that can give us income that can meet our own needs, it is another matter if we no longer have the ability to be able to work will certainly be able to get assistance from the government. Choosing to do your own business is of course very good, especially since we can be successful through the business we build well, of course we can use the workforce around where we live, if the government can manage their resources well, of course Of course, this country will have sufficient job opportunities for its citizens and this will of course really help their country's economy.
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July 05, 2024, 10:28:03 AM |
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World resources are not infinity the minerals clean water clean air and oil.
If there is plenty of oil..then to digg ground to get oil will damage the envoirement.
Untfortunately the only way for many will be you either have all or nothing financially and If you have it now the taxes going higher the debt % go higher aswell. You have to choose wich side you will be the one who have a lot or the one who got nothing. In the future i guess goverment will provide to you housing and Job. Some % of people must remain with the rights to have it all because If you take from them it's never easy so only very few can still have wealth. Fall of UK the british empire show's exacly that money printing is over all the money what was made of commodities and natural resources africa India and even russia was using London markets a lot for trading. But it's ended now no more markets no more money printing so clearly it show's that first priofity is not people wealth and financial situation but to save envoirement so at least very few have resources of plenty to enjoy life fullest.
Nothing comes for Free in life sooner or later the price will be taken of soul living entetie now from humans. With human happiness you destroy the wealth with human suffering you create the wealth.
But society Understood wrong things ...why people need money ? They don't need all what the people need is food and housing and health care and Job to be productive. People worry about money and their finances becouse of fear If they fall there is no support but once it changes and world become more socialism world then there is no need for surplus and greedy mind..the more more more !
what keeps people going in live is the food and money is very important because without money we can't get the food we eat today, why worry about money most it's because right now everything seems to be involved in money the house we live, the lifestyle infant our responsibilities it's all about money. And if anyone is waiting for the government to provide job, housing for the citizens to live I think they're just wasting their time waiting, I know in some countries there economy situation are good and their leaders are keeping to their consignment. And some countries their leaders are not even trying to make it out of the situation which their citizens are going through, so I would say the future holds in our own hands not the government anymore resources are what will hold and it's our infinity that is it.
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not infinity is true, that's why several countries whose main income comes from natural sources are starting to change their country's image so they can get income from other means, because slowly their natural resources will decrease and production will begin to decline which will also affect the income of these countries, plus more changes in world technology will also reduce dependence on natural sources, although the latest technology will use other natural sources but it is a fairly new type.
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