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July 20, 2024, 10:45:02 PM
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At first some judge gamblers often and later they become gambling addicts. I found it very serious to be curious and know what may have been their reason for the sudden change of mind. I know that there are difficult times to make money and maintain money, which is a world problem. I have had some thoughts on it and this is what I think may have been the reason.

1. In the beginning they may have been doing well financially and see no reason to gamble, maybe life later on throws them a financial curveball, or perhaps responsibility compels them to look for quick money through gambling. If not attempting gambling was an ethic for them they should have stuck to another alternative why did they choose this one?

2. On second thought. I feel it is the influence and conviction of people around them who are into gambling that made them go into gambling at the end of the day.

However, it is a sad story to see people who cast away gamblers thinking they are irresponsible, and then fund themselves on this same web doing the same thing. It reminds me of how vulnerable humans can be, and that anyone can change habits when a condition falls on them.

That's the proof that we shouldn't judge somebody's shortcomings, because one day you don't know you also did same thing. Gambling has different thoughts for other people, so it's important to respect what someone has doing to their lives no matter it is the reason. Just like the relatives I've know for so long they'll gamble just for fun, yet being addicted for so many years of but somehow managed to escape from this habit as he matured through several circumstances. You won't realize that mistakes when you don't feel being exhausted.

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July 20, 2024, 10:49:32 PM
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However, it is a sad story to see people who cast away gamblers thinking they are irresponsible, and then fund themselves on this same web doing the same thing. It reminds me of how vulnerable humans can be, and that anyone can change habits when a condition falls on them.
in my honest opinion and from observation, those kind of people are most times the worse gamblers. It's easy to regulate the extent you follow up in your gambling habit when you didn't come into the system at the point when you're financially down. You could easily speak up to people about your gambling about if you're just the regular guy that wasn't attacking gamblers as though they are the worse set of human being. When you've been on the other side of having a different view about gamblers and then find yourself in the system and it even gets to a point where you've become addicted and needs someone to talk to, because you wouldn't want an external person to know about your involvement in gambling, it's most likely that you're going to get addicted to gambling and might not have what it takes to come out if it.

Sometimes it's not even about gambling. most of the things we're quick to judge others about end up being the thing we find ourselves actively getting involved in and if we're not careful with the way we follow up with it, it becomes a source that can potentially drain us down.

At most times in life, we find ourselves indulging in things we talk against, regarding to gambling if not for certain misconducts people sees from those that has been over taken by gambling addiction without considering those that are in to it without such attributes, but however everyone has the freedom of speech. One should be very mindful of how he or she judge others else you will be found doing worst than the person you were advising or talk against. Some people only see the negative aspect of something and forgot the positive aspect and that is humans difference .
What is the need of judging people when we could always find ourselves in such shit that is making us to criticize other people. Gambling has been seen by some people are a bad activity that is not worth doing or participating in because of people that have made it look like it's all a bad activities. We can make money in gambling and also lose it if we are not conscious enough of what we are doing and the kind of results we intend to get. There are people that have made gambling worse in the face of other people because of the ways they have misuse there gambling privelidge in a way that makes it look bad.

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July 20, 2024, 11:13:58 PM
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But coming to think about it, how does this whole transition happen from being anti gambler to a gambling guru Roll Eyes is it really the finances that draw people to gambling or maybe we just like the fast money  Tongue
Both.

People that from being a hater into a gambler and actually doing it that are going against their words have found something helpful to them.

So, if it happened for the first time. The first thing that clicks to their minds are about the finances and at the same time the latter. Having to combine both of them that becomes into gambling makes their thoughts equal and removes the hater part.
In countries with low salaries, yes I agree, it's both.
The lack of money to budget for the whole month according to the salary could also push an individual to gamble. It's a wrong practice but because they are fed up with what is happening to them, they will try to take the risk and double their salary. That could be one of the reasons why a person will suddenly be a gambler from a hater of it. Thinking from my past, I am not a gambler too but because I was exposed to different gambling platforms, I became one although not to the extent that I will hurt my budget just to gamble more.

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July 20, 2024, 11:16:55 PM
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That's the proof that we shouldn't judge somebody's shortcomings, because one day you don't know you also did same thing. Gambling has different thoughts for other people, so it's important to respect what someone has doing to their lives no matter it is the reason. Just like the relatives I've know for so long they'll gamble just for fun, yet being addicted for so many years of but somehow managed to escape from this habit as he matured through several circumstances. You won't realize that mistakes when you don't feel being exhausted.

Definitely, non gamblers must talk ill of addicted players because they've not gone through similar mental challenges. To cover up for their misdeeds, they wouldn't wager openly, hence most of them get vulnerable to addiction. Gamers shouldn't make it a one man show, but a one time non player who has been mocking addicts, first, goes unprepared into the game and can't seek for advise due to his previous reactions on gamblers. It's quite necessary not to judge but to advise players even as a non gambler. But society and addicts pushes them to think this way and it's not their fault engaging in the game later on in life. Nobody knows for sure what led them into gambling.

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July 20, 2024, 11:51:07 PM
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That's the proof that we shouldn't judge somebody's shortcomings, because one day you don't know you also did same thing. Gambling has different thoughts for other people, so it's important to respect what someone has doing to their lives no matter it is the reason. Just like the relatives I've know for so long they'll gamble just for fun, yet being addicted for so many years of but somehow managed to escape from this habit as he matured through several circumstances. You won't realize that mistakes when you don't feel being exhausted.

Definitely, non gamblers must talk ill of addicted players because they've not gone through similar mental challenges. To cover up for their misdeeds, they wouldn't wager openly, hence most of them get vulnerable to addiction. Gamers shouldn't make it a one man show, but a one time non player who has been mocking addicts, first, goes unprepared into the game and can't seek for advise due to his previous reactions on gamblers. It's quite necessary not to judge but to advise players even as a non gambler. But society and addicts pushes them to think this way and it's not their fault engaging in the game later on in life. Nobody knows for sure what led them into gambling.

Exactly, and if even if we didn't push them to do that but the influence of gambling around social media has come to huge popularity due to advertisements. People has their independence to decide whether they'll gamble or not, because the comfort on access is really easy. Most specially they'll be able to install through their smartphones and through websites is very convenient at anytime.

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July 21, 2024, 03:25:15 AM
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That's the proof that we shouldn't judge somebody's shortcomings, because one day you don't know you also did same thing. Gambling has different thoughts for other people, so it's important to respect what someone has doing to their lives no matter it is the reason. Just like the relatives I've know for so long they'll gamble just for fun, yet being addicted for so many years of but somehow managed to escape from this habit as he matured through several circumstances. You won't realize that mistakes when you don't feel being exhausted.

Respecting other people's decisions as well as not imposing our thoughts on others is something we should remember because there is no guarantee that one day we will not fall into that situation. Life always has surprises and the future is unpredictable. Also, if we can't help them, don't try to teach or criticize them, because it's their choice and their life.

Honestly, it's puzzling that people who know nothing about gambling, have never gambled, and have no gambling experience like to criticize and lecture others. Criticizing or interfering in other people's decisions has never brought us any benefits, why do many people like to do it?

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July 21, 2024, 04:53:30 AM
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Well, you said it perfectly. Most people gamble in order to make some quick money. Gambling is all about giving you large returns in fractions of seconds. But similarly, the risk involved is also high. Hence, in order to try their luck, people gamble. Some succeed, but the majority of them fail. Some also started gambling in order to see how it works; later on, when they find it interesting, they become addicts. Sadly, we can’t really do or help these addicts; they need to be themselves and become cautious to invest a suitable amount in gambling.

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July 21, 2024, 05:12:24 AM
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Well, you said it perfectly. Most people gamble in order to make some quick money. Gambling is all about giving you large returns in fractions of seconds. But similarly, the risk involved is also high. Hence, in order to try their luck, people gamble. Some succeed, but the majority of them fail. Some also started gambling in order to see how it works; later on, when they find it interesting, they become addicts. Sadly, we can’t really do or help these addicts; they need to be themselves and become cautious to invest a suitable amount in gambling.

One who is not an addict can actually help those that are addicted, you can't just say we can't help them, yeah if only the addicts willing be to play along considering the fact that we can advise them to go for a break or probably quite, encouraging them to seek for a professional specialist that deal with anything related to addiction, they can encourage to limit the time and resources they spend in the gambling arena, we can tell to have a particular amount of money to allocated to gambling at every point in time and above all gambling is a just a game and shouldn't be taken too serious hence it will continue to become problematic.

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July 21, 2024, 06:38:07 AM
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If there is a person who criticizes another for gambling frequently, then in my opinion, this criticism does not arise without reason. This is a subconscious manifestation of interest in gambling. You know, there are a huge number of passionate gamblers who have been harsh critics of gambling in the past. This happens, by the way, not only in the gambling sphere, but everywhere in general. It's the same story with Bitcoin adoption. Often a person wants to find out more information about what he is subconsciously attracted to, but cannot do this because his current beliefs prevent him from doing so. This is a kind of conflict between internal desires and an outdated worldview.

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July 21, 2024, 07:41:19 AM
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At most times in life, we find ourselves indulging in things we talk against, regarding to gambling if not for certain misconducts people sees from those that has been over taken by gambling addiction without considering those that are in to it without such attributes, but however everyone has the freedom of speech. One should be very mindful of how he or she judge others else you will be found doing worst than the person you were advising or talk against. Some people only see the negative aspect of something and forgot the positive aspect and that is humans difference .
Exactly, human are so unpredictable and are so quick to judge others, base on their first encounter with some people or how they feel life will always be for them. They never dreamt of seing themselves in thesame situation as the person they castigate. Forgetting that things do change just like they said table turns around, this case is not only in gambling but in all. it might be better for you today and you see others as less or they are not hardworking people,  but when life hits you the hard way you become the product of what you vowed never to be.  Some people later became an object of mockery. we must be mindful, humble and calm the way we speak to people, if not it will definitely affect us some day.

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July 21, 2024, 09:56:11 AM
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Well, you said it perfectly. Most people gamble in order to make some quick money. Gambling is all about giving you large returns in fractions of seconds. But similarly, the risk involved is also high. Hence, in order to try their luck, people gamble. Some succeed, but the majority of them fail. Some also started gambling in order to see how it works; later on, when they find it interesting, they become addicts. Sadly, we can’t really do or help these addicts; they need to be themselves and become cautious to invest a suitable amount in gambling.
One who is not an addict can actually help those that are addicted, you can't just say we can't help them, yeah if only the addicts willing be to play along considering the fact that we can advise them to go for a break or probably quite, encouraging them to seek for a professional specialist that deal with anything related to addiction, they can encourage to limit the time and resources they spend in the gambling arena, we can tell to have a particular amount of money to allocated to gambling at every point in time and above all gambling is a just a game and shouldn't be taken too serious hence it will continue to become problematic.
If they can helps addicted person to gambling by always reminds and asks them to do something else, they can see that person can have their chance to cure their gambling addiction. They can't just advices those addicted person to gambling to leave gambling forever without showing how they can do that as their minds will not say to quit gambling.

But people who wants to helps those addicted person to gambling can drag into gambling without they realizes especially if they don't have good control to holds themselves from gambling. It needs strong will and power to stay away from gambling and helps the addicted person to gambling so they can really helps without getting the bad effects to themselves. However, they must prevents themselves from the will of playing gambling especially when they already see what the bad effects that can happens to them if they becomes addicted to gambling.

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July 21, 2024, 10:21:42 AM
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Well, you said it perfectly. Most people gamble in order to make some quick money. Gambling is all about giving you large returns in fractions of seconds. But similarly, the risk involved is also high. Hence, in order to try their luck, people gamble. Some succeed, but the majority of them fail. Some also started gambling in order to see how it works; later on, when they find it interesting, they become addicts. Sadly, we can’t really do or help these addicts; they need to be themselves and become cautious to invest a suitable amount in gambling.
Large profits can occur if indeed we have luck that can be considered a god level, because for even a small number of victories it is sometimes difficult to obtain. The mistake that occurred at the beginning was that they thought by doing gambling they could get a victory, while the risk of gambling is the defeat or loss that is clearly greater than the chances of victory then the defeat will be more common. There is nothing for sure to be able to get a victory that is definitely a later, even though they have a strategy that he believes is very accurate, it does not guarantee that he will definitely get a victory, keep in mind that gambling is a probability and luck game so the victory that exists in the future depends on everyone's luck.

Reminding each other is something that is not wrong, we as humans must be able to remind each other and help but we must be able to see in what kind of help we help. In addition, respecting the opinions or suggestions of others must, because basically mutual respect is good behavior. A addict will receive advice and suggestions from the closest people but the decision of the sipeje itself who will either continue to gamble by ignoring the advice he has received or even will be aware of the advice he has received. But please note that usually someone who has been addicted will become hars ludder, it is not strange if they ignore the people around including the advice that has been done by the closest person.

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July 21, 2024, 11:21:19 AM
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Those who haven't faced life's difficult moments are the ones who easily condemn what others do from afar due to they don't have an idea of what they are doing or they don't like it. They only see what others do as a waste of time and money. But as time goes on, they begin to learn that, life difficulties hit differently, and it can force someone to start up something new to support what they are already been doing.

I have seen people who condemn gambling at first instance but later find their way to it that it can pay them off hugely if they should engage in it(idea given to them). As time passes in all though, they become used to it which leads them to addiction in pursuing what is hard to accomplish

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July 21, 2024, 12:17:31 PM
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Well, you said it perfectly. Most people gamble in order to make some quick money. Gambling is all about giving you large returns in fractions of seconds. But similarly, the risk involved is also high. Hence, in order to try their luck, people gamble. Some succeed, but the majority of them fail. Some also started gambling in order to see how it works; later on, when they find it interesting, they become addicts. Sadly, we can’t really do or help these addicts; they need to be themselves and become cautious to invest a suitable amount in gambling.
One who is not an addict can actually help those that are addicted, you can't just say we can't help them, yeah if only the addicts willing be to play along considering the fact that we can advise them to go for a break or probably quite, encouraging them to seek for a professional specialist that deal with anything related to addiction, they can encourage to limit the time and resources they spend in the gambling arena, we can tell to have a particular amount of money to allocated to gambling at every point in time and above all gambling is a just a game and shouldn't be taken too serious hence it will continue to become problematic.
If they can helps addicted person to gambling by always reminds and asks them to do something else, they can see that person can have their chance to cure their gambling addiction. They can't just advices those addicted person to gambling to leave gambling forever without showing how they can do that as their minds will not say to quit gambling.

But people who wants to helps those addicted person to gambling can drag into gambling without they realizes especially if they don't have good control to holds themselves from gambling. It needs strong will and power to stay away from gambling and helps the addicted person to gambling so they can really helps without getting the bad effects to themselves. However, they must prevents themselves from the will of playing gambling especially when they already see what the bad effects that can happens to them if they becomes addicted to gambling.
When it comes on convincing someone on making up some advise about stopping on the things on what they are doing then its not something my line or something that i would really be that doing. Why?
I dont really like on getting scolded or would really be having that kind of blaming or something being that having those bad words coming on their mouth about minding my own business considering that its their money
then why would really be that im making those kind of advises on which it would really be that something that do talks about their own funds so its their full rights on what they should gonna do.
We do know that when it comes to this aspect thn its true that its their money and they could do anything they do want and its not really that good when you are really that trying out to tell them on what they should gonna do but if we do speak about family members then it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that kind of concern since its family or even to close known friends or relatives on which
we do have at least showing up some concern on what they are currently dealing with.

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July 21, 2024, 12:27:06 PM
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2. On second thought. I feel it is the influence and conviction of people around them who are into gambling that made them go into gambling at the end of the day.

However, it is a sad story to see people who cast away gamblers thinking they are irresponsible, and then fund themselves on this same web doing the same thing. It reminds me of how vulnerable humans can be, and that anyone can change habits when a condition falls on them.

It is difficult to say what exactly made them do what they themselves had previously condemned; there could be many reasons for this. Including those you are talking about, the opinions of others. And I also think that if they are dependent on people’s opinions, then they will then want to show that they can be more successful in this than other people. But this often leads to very bad consequences.

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July 21, 2024, 01:02:02 PM
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If there is a person who criticizes another for gambling frequently, then in my opinion, this criticism does not arise without reason. This is a subconscious manifestation of interest in gambling. You know, there are a huge number of passionate gamblers who have been harsh critics of gambling in the past. This happens, by the way, not only in the gambling sphere, but everywhere in general. It's the same story with Bitcoin adoption. Often a person wants to find out more information about what he is subconsciously attracted to, but cannot do this because his current beliefs prevent him from doing so. This is a kind of conflict between internal desires and an outdated worldview.
this is true, and according to my observations, religious people are also strong critics of gambling (maybe because the forbidden fruit is sweet?) But still, most of all, former players are the biggest haters of gambling because they left solid funds there; I know several people who lost very substantial amounts over a long period.

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July 21, 2024, 07:37:39 PM
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Well, you said it perfectly. Most people gamble in order to make some quick money. Gambling is all about giving you large returns in fractions of seconds. But similarly, the risk involved is also high. Hence, in order to try their luck, people gamble. Some succeed, but the majority of them fail. Some also started gambling in order to see how it works; later on, when they find it interesting, they become addicts. Sadly, we can’t really do or help these addicts; they need to be themselves and become cautious to invest a suitable amount in gambling.
Large profits can occur if indeed we have luck that can be considered a god level, because for even a small number of victories it is sometimes difficult to obtain. The mistake that occurred at the beginning was that they thought by doing gambling they could get a victory, while the risk of gambling is the defeat or loss that is clearly greater than the chances of victory then the defeat will be more common. There is nothing for sure to be able to get a victory that is definitely a later, even though they have a strategy that he believes is very accurate, it does not guarantee that he will definitely get a victory, keep in mind that gambling is a probability and luck game so the victory that exists in the future depends on everyone's luck.

Reminding each other is something that is not wrong, we as humans must be able to remind each other and help but we must be able to see in what kind of help we help. In addition, respecting the opinions or suggestions of others must, because basically mutual respect is good behavior. A addict will receive advice and suggestions from the closest people but the decision of the sipeje itself who will either continue to gamble by ignoring the advice he has received or even will be aware of the advice he has received. But please note that usually someone who has been addicted will become hars ludder, it is not strange if they ignore the people around including the advice that has been done by the closest person.
Anything is a game, including gambling. Some days you win, some lose. House wins most of the time. Its maths. Just the way it is - nothing personal. The wise choice? Treat gambling like a show. This is amusement, not retirement. Healthy living starts there. Regarding "luck"... Its intermittent. Out of your control.

The luckiest men have bad days. Everyone's vulnerable. Thats why listening matters. They cherish you and dont want you hurt. When told to slow down, do so. Love, not control. Asking for help is fine. Not weakness, but strength.

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July 22, 2024, 09:30:06 AM
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Just like the relatives I've know for so long they'll gamble just for fun, yet being addicted for so many years of but somehow managed to escape from this habit as he matured through several circumstances. You won't realize that mistakes when you don't feel being exhausted.
Let me ask you this simple question based on the example you gave to your relatives. Do you think that the same reason that propelled someone to start gambling can be the same reason why he is going to quit gambling if he eventually gets addicted to it for a long time? In a case where someone starts gambling because of financial needs and later becomes very rich through gambling or other means, can the person quit gambling because he has become rich and there is no need for gambling anymore? Or is the addiction inevitable that he will continue to gamble until he can get over it?

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Let me ask you this simple question based on the example you gave to your relatives. Do you think that the same reason that propelled someone to start gambling can be the same reason why he is going to quit gambling if he eventually gets addicted to it for a long time? In a case where someone starts gambling because of financial needs and later becomes very rich through gambling or other means, can the person quit gambling because he has become rich and there is no need for gambling anymore? Or is the addiction inevitable that he will continue to gamble until he can get over it?
Well, if the person's reason for gambling is because of financial needs and they later hit a jackpot and become wealthy, there are two things involved, it's either they quit or continue gambling but in a case where addiction is involved I don't think it would be easy to quit except help come from somewhere, like advise from loved ones or they make a decision to minimise excess gambling and stand on their ground.

 We all know that addiction is not something that one could easily stop, sometimes you might not necessarily intend on being an addict to a particular thing but the fact that you turned it to a habit then you'll definitely get addicted and in the case of a person who's purpose of gambling is for financial needs you never can tell how often they must have been gambling before they hit the jackpot.

 So I think that if such person become used to it, even after he become rich through it, he might likely continue gambling until he can get over it, or seek help in order to quit his addiction.
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July 22, 2024, 08:02:22 PM
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Respecting other people's decisions as well as not imposing our thoughts on others is something we should remember because there is no guarantee that one day we will not fall into that situation. Life always has surprises and the future is unpredictable. Also, if we can't help them, don't try to teach or criticize them, because it's their choice and their life.

Honestly, it's puzzling that people who know nothing about gambling, have never gambled, and have no gambling experience like to criticize and lecture others. Criticizing or interfering in other people's decisions has never brought us any benefits, why do many people like to do it?
Sometimes it's also good to correct what someone think is right but the truth is it was wrong, so that they can also correct their life and they might give inspiration to other as well. Everything can make a mistake but it's not always the cause of you correcting others, so we shouldn't think about it and feel bad about our selves. Those who criticize us experienced gamblers can investigate about that person who criticized us because maybe they are also a hidden gambler. Usually there are no real benefits like money on criticizing other people but those who criticize others can make them feel contented or superior, and that is why they constantly does this.

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