Why poor people always have more kids?

[AlphaBoy]

The reason why poor people has more kids in most cases they believe since them don't have money that any of their kids will be rich in future,their by making their name to come up ,the son of emeka the palmwine tapper ,is now rich most family are not rich but they have fat and tall men in the house if u defeet them in money one can't defeet them by natural power ,they will finish you,with this few point of my one can know the reasons why man men has many children

bro this actually a good one, I heard a lot of poor putting there hope on there children to be rich and to take care of the family.
but funny the funny thing that those people believe the saying "if you suffer today you gonna have an easy tomorrow"
just because you suffer today it dose not mean you gonna have a good future, maybe you will suffer and die.

Hey, I get where you're coming from, but some of those stats aren't quite right. Let me break it down:
Yeah, the population numbers for Africa and South Asia seem about right. But saying 37.5% of people live in extreme poverty? That's way off. The World Bank says it's actually around 9.2% as of 2020. Still a lot of people, but nowhere near a third of the world.
And about birth rates in Africa - it's not 8 kids per woman like you said. It's more like 4.6 on average. Still higher than rich countries, but it's been going down over time.
The thing is, this isn't some age-old pattern that's been happening for thousands of years. Birth rates have been dropping pretty much everywhere as education and healthcare get better, even in poorer countries.
It's important to get the facts straight. There's usually more to the story than what we might assume at first glance.

in central Africa they dose, at least till 2000s
and as I said before if you need an education to understand a common sense then you are lower than animals, because even animals have the common sense of not producing more than they can feed.
in Europe back in the days people had more kids because the food was secured, they didn't live in famine and had kids

The irony of this thread is that OP is answering his own question by blaming women on the problem, and ignoring the actual causes e.g. the treatment of women in his country.

the irony that you don't understand this thread and you want me to reply on your reply even tho your reply come from the fact that you did not understand anything in this thread.
I am not talking about rape victim I am talking about families, poor families that have more kids than they should be or should do.

Poor people need proper education and guidance in order to leave poverty through organizing and managing their lives more efficiently. It's something which takes times, and sometimes several generations to happen, but it's something which must be pointed out, like OP is doing, and discussed.

It's not only about education and guidance, if they were raised wrongly e.g. stunting, had trauma, suffer structural poverty etc, they might not able to escape from poverty.

If they were raised wrongly, being abused and not receiving the correct stimulus and incentives for each phase of their lives, it means they didn't receive guidance from the family, school and society where they are inserted.

To guide a child is part of the raising process. You have to give attention, teach good principles and values, show behavioral examples, so they can mirror their actions on your conduct.

However, if this guidance has never been available, how are they going to end the cycle? Noboby can absorb a knowledge or influence they have never been exposed to. That is why it's a process which takes a long time to happen, maybe several generations inside a family...

There isn't a known solution for this issue. What we see for real is that the minority of the individuals in such financial conditions are able to avoid this "destiny", and then start thinking critically about this matter (and end being criticized by everyone else around...). I believe these individuals are the hope for others who can finally get inspired by them to also escape the "Platonic cave" from Plato’s Allegory of the Cave.

you are a deep thinker uneng, I really like the way you think.
my theory is that eugenic is the only answer to this.
you might think that the cycle broking easily but it dose not, the US has illiteracy rate less than 1% and most of the 1%  are mentally challenged people.
and yet you see how many serials killer out there and all of them had there share of abuse.
the only way to end this cycle is to end the blood line.
I am one of the most people who dream of eugenic in my own country, even tho I am sure they will sterilize me the first but I have no problem, one of the most important reasons Germany have the highest IQ in Europe was what happen in Nazi Germany back then, they when they sterilize anyone that showed criminal future and anyone with a low IQ, thus the only Germans that had kids were the best Germans.
now a days they talk about "human rights" and how everyone has the right to have kids, but when you tells them to raise the taxes so you take care of those mentally ill and stupid people everyone "human righter" disappear.
you need to break the cycle you need to sterilize them.

either way the generational trauma will have 2 ends:
1-The last link will hate himself and his blood line and he refrains from having children
2-They will have even more children and beat the living fuck out of them daily (some times it's rape)

[legiteum]

The irony of this thread is that OP is answering his own question by blaming women on the problem, and ignoring the actual causes e.g. the treatment of women in his country.

the irony that you don't understand this thread and you want me to reply on your reply even tho your reply come from the fact that you did not understand anything in this thread.

I am not talking about rape victim I am talking about families, poor families that have more kids than they should be or should do.

You aren't talking about it because you don't want to--which is exactly why nothing will ever change in your country, insofar at voters and leaders think like you do.

Poor families have poor women with fewer options for birth control, fewer options for abortion, and fewer options when their spouse rapes them. If you refuse to acknowledge this and instead want to just blame the supposed moral failure of women, then you are part of the problem and nothing will change.

If you actually want to solve the problem--and I'm not convinced you do--then you will look at the actual origins of the problem and elevate the status of women in your country.

If you want to keep denigrating women in your country, then you are going to have to keep dealing with unwanted pregnancies. It's as simple as that.

In Europe, the US, and the developed Asian countries:

1. Women have access to birth control.

2. Women have access to abortions.

3. Women can divorce and have recourse when their spouses rape them.

If you want your country to be like them, then that ^^^ is what you do.


If you don't want to hear any of this and want to continue blaming women, then get used to lots of unwanted pregnancies in your country.

[Zoomic]

Poor people do not have that financial capability to afford the basic necessities of life like health care, education, food, shelter and many others. Aside the fact that some poor people cannot afford some birth control measures, many are still giving birth to more children because of lack of education. The problem with many is illiteracy and ignorance that is why they still believe the saying that "God is the giver of children and he will provide means to train them by himself". Some will even reject family planning because they've heard some negative things about it or their traditions/religions are not in support of family planning.

All some poor people need is sensitization on the need for family planning because some of them do not know that couples can actually decide the number of children they wish to have and still achieve that number. Only when this is done, will they take family planning seriously just like they take food seriously.

[OgNasty]

You could probably come up with a lot of reasons why poor people have more kids on average. For example, birth control isn’t free, neither is higher education. Also, the small incentives for having children are much more meaningful to the poor. In the end though, I’d say being rich teaches you how to protect your wealth and nothing destroys wealth like divorce or derails financial growth for the young like child support.

[Jessie2121]

Some of those poor people only think too much and the only way of eating off thinking off their mind is either by taking lots of alcohol and mostly sex and they do it without thinking of the situation at hand, no job too is another factor. When you stay at home doing nothing what is expected of someone who have a woman at him? The man must try not to lose her to other men and by doing so is to give her the pleasure she deserves. Being a poor man is not easy, but what I think can help is if the man is busy then the children at home won't be much because he will be thinking of how to take care of the ones at home and not multiple to his problems.

[legiteum]

You could probably come up with a lot of reasons why poor people have more kids on average. For example, birth control isn’t free, neither is higher education. Also, the small incentives for having children are much more meaningful to the poor. In the end though, I’d say being rich teaches you how to protect your wealth and nothing destroys wealth like divorce or derails financial growth for the young like child support.

Did you say divorce?

Divorce isn't either a legal and/or a realistic option for women in these countries that have problems with unwanted pregnancies. In other words, either divorce is practically speaking impossible for millions of women in these countries, or it's outright illegal. So men don't have to give a shit about divorce, which changes their outlook completely.

And without the option of divorce, men can (and do) repeatedly rape their spouses. And then those same countries tend to shun and/or outlaw birth control, and shun and/or outlaw abortion.

So basically women are being forced by men to have babies whether they want them or not.

If you want your country to have developed-country birth statistics, then give your country developed-country laws protecting women's rights.

It's as simple as that.

[paxmao]

Mostly because they have two problems:

a) They are poor and cannot get a flat screen and a subscription to Netflix, so they need to find something to pass the time.
b) Because in winter they cannot afford turning the heating on, so they need to find a way of heating up the rooms.

So, they are poor, but they are not stupid and can perfectly figure out an activity that is fun and heats up the room. As a side effect, they have kids.

I hope this helps.