Telegram betting agent - best odds on market

[mak013]

I don`t think that there is any difference between all these platforms. The main idea is the same, use could use even ICQ for it not long ago. The main problem is how to trust someone in the internet. As for me - i don`t ready to believe to  anyone unknown. And here the OP wants to attract your money and the same time you have to go to his telegram to get some information. I don`t think that it works so.

Maybe I would, If the broker/Agent/Service is a reputable one and have known them for quite long. And if their SKYPE account is posted on their official website..

Visit any freelance site and you`ll see how much your money cost. Even if it would somebody well-known from this board - i don`t sure that i can believe him, too much cheaters in the internet nowadays. I always try to find proves in the real world. If the OP shows contacts of the offline business that i can check in any way - it would be the project that can interest me. Any other way, include "PM me for questions" - too easy way to lose money.

[topbitcoin]

Maybe I would, If the broker/Agent/Service is a reputable one and have known them for quite long. And if their SKYPE account is posted on their official website..

Visit any freelance site and you`ll see how much your money cost. Even if it would somebody well-known from this board - i don`t sure that i can believe him, too much cheaters in the internet nowadays. I always try to find proves in the real world. If the OP shows contacts of the offline business that i can check in any way - it would be the project that can interest me. Any other way, include "PM me for questions" - too easy way to lose money.

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

[Odusko]

This is craps for any experience forum users, because at this point this is a clear scam attempts anything that make you lose control over your money is already a scam waiting to happen, and why should anyone Trust a red tagged forum member claiming to be trusted with money, and if the format works for him that well how come he is promoting the service when he should already made so much money that he won't need money any more, I repeat no one should trust this member, and I think this thread should be lock to avoid manipulative comments from alt of the ops that could try to put pressure to deceive others.

[Crypto Library]

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

This is really a shitty poor effort of Scammers to scam peoples.

I won't say that trusting anonymous peoples will be stupid because if we trust bitcoin then we already trusting the anonymous peoples behind of this. But in the case of playing gambling here we already have lots of Decentralized Casino to make sports betting and there we don't have to use 3rd party for placing our bets with staying fully anonymous then why do peoples will use these services and why people are trusting these scammers

[topbitcoin]

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

This is really a shitty poor effort of Scammers to scam peoples.

I won't say that trusting anonymous peoples will be stupid because if we trust bitcoin then we already trusting the anonymous peoples behind of this. But in the case of playing gambling here we already have lots of Decentralized Casino to make sports betting and there we don't have to use 3rd party for placing our bets with staying fully anonymous then why do peoples will use these services and why people are trusting these scammers

I catch your thought, then I would like to say how long will the web3 casino last, will pay you when you win, and serve you very well? Will it be forever?
How sure are you about that? maybe not in one year or two years, but what about 5 years? 10 years? Is their business going to last that long, what if after 5 years they stop paying you and take your money away at a time when you are very trusting? try to think long term.
You compare this with bitcoin, of course it is a different case even though both are created by anonymous people on the internet, but bitcoin has been tested for more than a decade and bitcoin adopters are not human level like us.


Besides, OP's offer is not about decentralization, he is clearly offering to be your bet provider. LOL

[Crypto Library]

I catch your thought, then I would like to say how long will the web3 casino last, will pay you when you win, and serve you very well? Will it be forever?
How sure are you about that? maybe not in one year or two years, but what about 5 years? 10 years? Is their business going to last that long, what if after 5 years they stop paying you and take your money away at a time when you are very trusting? try to think long term.
You compare this with bitcoin, of course it is a different case even though both are created by anonymous people on the internet, but bitcoin has been tested for more than a decade and bitcoin adopters are not human level like us.

Alright, then can you guarantee that something centralized platform can long-lasting forever? I sure you also cannot guarantee of that and as well as I also can't guarantee that something like decentralized web3 platform will long-last forever, And we also don't know who will take our money and run away.
If you visit the Scam Accusations board then you will find there are lots Scam Accusations centralized casino's all have the risks but I will not disagree with you that web3 decentralized casino are one step ahead on it, But if you are looking for anonymity in your gambling then you have to go through decentralized platform.

Besides, OP's offer is not about decentralization, he is clearly offering to be your bet provider. LOL

When did I say op is offering the decentralized service? 

[topbitcoin]

I catch your thought, then I would like to say how long will the web3 casino last, will pay you when you win, and serve you very well? Will it be forever?
How sure are you about that? maybe not in one year or two years, but what about 5 years? 10 years? Is their business going to last that long, what if after 5 years they stop paying you and take your money away at a time when you are very trusting? try to think long term.
You compare this with bitcoin, of course it is a different case even though both are created by anonymous people on the internet, but bitcoin has been tested for more than a decade and bitcoin adopters are not human level like us.

Alright, then can you guarantee that something centralized platform can long-lasting forever? I sure you also cannot guarantee of that and as well as I also can't guarantee that something like decentralized web3 platform will long-last forever, And we also don't know who will take our money and run away.
If you visit the Scam Accusations board then you will find there are lots Scam Accusations centralized casino's all have the risks but I will not disagree with you that web3 decentralized casino are one step ahead on it, But if you are looking for anonymity in your gambling then you have to go through decentralized platform.

I don't believe it will last either, did I say that?
And did I say that centralized casinos are risk-free and say that web3 casinos are lagging behind?

Of course if I wanted to remain anonymous I would use web3 casino, I'm very familiar with it, you don't need to give such general advice. 

Besides, OP's offer is not about decentralization, he is clearly offering to be your bet provider. LOL

When did I say op is offering the decentralized service? 

So where is your argument going? Why are you linking it to bitcoin and decentralized casinos? 
Are you not understanding the context of the conversation?

[AmoreJaz]

Maybe I would, If the broker/Agent/Service is a reputable one and have known them for quite long. And if their SKYPE account is posted on their official website..

Visit any freelance site and you`ll see how much your money cost. Even if it would somebody well-known from this board - i don`t sure that i can believe him, too much cheaters in the internet nowadays. I always try to find proves in the real world. If the OP shows contacts of the offline business that i can check in any way - it would be the project that can interest me. Any other way, include "PM me for questions" - too easy way to lose money.

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

Most people who will be a victim of this kind of business are those who are after for quick money and have very little to no effort of doing their part to at least do a little bit of research. They are after for quick gain, however, they will soon find out that they got screwed by these scammers.

Keep in mind, very rare that you can encounter a trusted individuals or groups via telegram platform. Most are fraudsters and are trying to siphon money from their victims. It is breeding ground of scammers so to speak.

[freedomgo]

Most people who will be a victim of this kind of business are those who are after for quick money and have very little to no effort of doing their part to at least do a little bit of research. They are after for quick gain, however, they will soon find out that they got screwed by these scammers.

This kind of system is not for everyone. For those of us who have no hindrance in accessing the many online casinos available, we should avoid using Telegram betting. However, for those who are blocked from accessing such platforms by their government, this system might be their best option. That said, it comes with significant risks, so it's crucial to manage those risks effectively. One way to do this is by limiting the wagered amount, just in case the betting agent disappears with your money.

[mak013]

Maybe I would, If the broker/Agent/Service is a reputable one and have known them for quite long. And if their SKYPE account is posted on their official website..

Visit any freelance site and you`ll see how much your money cost. Even if it would somebody well-known from this board - i don`t sure that i can believe him, too much cheaters in the internet nowadays. I always try to find proves in the real world. If the OP shows contacts of the offline business that i can check in any way - it would be the project that can interest me. Any other way, include "PM me for questions" - too easy way to lose money.

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

The idea is ok, realization is awful. It is good idea that someone can find the best odds and bet limits for you, but you have to believe him. Here is the only part with the searching best odds. And if i can`t find this man i can`t believe him. And any proves in telegram.

[topbitcoin]

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

The idea is ok, realization is awful. It is good idea that someone can find the best odds and bet limits for you, but you have to believe him. Here is the only part with the searching best odds. And if i can`t find this man i can`t believe him. And any proves in telegram.

I also admit that the idea is very good, of course it is an opportunity for people who want to get a bigger victory with it, but the weaknesses are too big so that they can disappoint the results, unless he really shows where he bet and the opportunity given from the betting provider Where, and whether they are verified safe as the first party provider who provides good opportunities, we do not need care and can do it ourselves.

[Ojima-ojo]

if you have a service to advertise you will be at least present to provide details and explain as much as you can so people can trust what you're offering.
if OP decide to "evaporate" isn't a good sign. Moreover if this service has not a ToS it's pretty clear that trust a complete stranger in telegram... this sound like the start of a big scam.... definitely avoid anything similar... pretty useless and with tons of serious risks.

I think the aim of the ops is to get gamblers money and working away with it because he doesn't have any service to offer, and all that he is after is the money he will get from the attempt scam, most especially requesting for gambler's to send him money as in form of subscription into his service and through cryptocurrency, and what makes his offers to be more suspicious is the fact that he want the deal to be done on telegram.


If he doesn't have any interior motive, he would have provided all the necessary details here in the Forum and make all his offers open and clear with the terms and conditions clearly stated.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Unfortunately, the experience that many of the players and normal people have through Telegram is that they scam a lot, therefore sometimes it is difficult to trust casinos that are developed within Telegram, yes, I defend that they have a lot of privacy, it is a very good way so that no type of activity is tracked, but I still think that a casino in the Telegram environment is not very good, or at least people do not trust it much, me neither, I am not a big believer in these casinos.

[mak013]

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

The idea is ok, realization is awful. It is good idea that someone can find the best odds and bet limits for you, but you have to believe him. Here is the only part with the searching best odds. And if i can`t find this man i can`t believe him. And any proves in telegram.

I also admit that the idea is very good, of course it is an opportunity for people who want to get a bigger victory with it, but the weaknesses are too big so that they can disappoint the results, unless he really shows where he bet and the opportunity given from the betting provider Where, and whether they are verified safe as the first party provider who provides good opportunities, we do not need care and can do it ourselves.

I think that previous bets can be only additional proves, it would be proves of opportunities of the OP. The main proves are telephone call(not any messenger, ), address, id, some other data that can identify the OP. Like a KYC. I don`t think that he must be anonymous if he wants to get serious money. I prefer to know who get my money and i think that it is normally for everybody.

[freedomgo]

Unfortunately, the experience that many of the players and normal people have through Telegram is that they scam a lot, therefore sometimes it is difficult to trust casinos that are developed within Telegram, yes, I defend that they have a lot of privacy, it is a very good way so that no type of activity is tracked, but I still think that a casino in the Telegram environment is not very good, or at least people do not trust it much, me neither, I am not a big believer in these casinos.

We are well aware of the risks since we're involved in crypto, and Telegram is known to be a hub for scammers. This means we need to be very cautious about who we deal with, especially given the amount of money we're risking in our search for alternative ways to gamble. While this might be acceptable for some who can't access betting websites and have no other option but to use Telegram, as I mentioned, the amounts should be relatively small, something we can afford to lose in case we get scammed. Even if these platforms develop a good reputation, the fact that we have no recourse if they turn into a scam is a significant risk. This is why we can't be aggressive with our betting amounts.

[Odusko]

if you have a service to advertise you will be at least present to provide details and explain as much as you can so people can trust what you're offering.
if OP decide to "evaporate" isn't a good sign. Moreover if this service has not a ToS it's pretty clear that trust a complete stranger in telegram... this sound like the start of a big scam.... definitely avoid anything similar... pretty useless and with tons of serious risks.

Just as many of such offer's have ended up being a completely scam same goes with this one, the possibility to turn out as scam is a bit high at the moment most especially when telegram involved, I don't think with the present evidence and information put up in the ops, we may have to conclude that there is no notable head ways for the ops and at that he may have decided to abandon this thread and look elsewhere to carry out his attempt scam.

I hate anything that has to do with telegram, and any service provider most especially the ones that are dealing on cryptocurrency, the only way we can have some believe is when everything can happen in the forum so that if there is any form of scam, there will be a prove to follow up the case with, but with the present conditions of things, no one will ever believe telegram deals.

[kotajikikox]

This is craps for any experience forum users, because at this point this is a clear scam attempts anything that make you lose control over your money is already a scam waiting to happen, and why should anyone Trust a red tagged forum member claiming to be trusted with money, and if the format works for him that well how come he is promoting the service when he should already made so much money that he won't need money any more, I repeat no one should trust this member, and I think this thread should be lock to avoid manipulative comments from alt of the ops that could try to put pressure to deceive others.

Don't worry OP's last post is last month and never that he did return to save His name meaning this is a clear scam attempt from His side . and like you and others? Will never join or turning myself in this kind of attempt .

[DallasMavs22]

This is craps for any experience forum users, because at this point this is a clear scam attempts anything that make you lose control over your money is already a scam waiting to happen, and why should anyone Trust a red tagged forum member claiming to be trusted with money, and if the format works for him that well how come he is promoting the service when he should already made so much money that he won't need money any more, I repeat no one should trust this member, and I think this thread should be lock to avoid manipulative comments from alt of the ops that could try to put pressure to deceive others.

Don't worry OP's last post is last month and never that he did return to save His name meaning this is a clear scam attempt from His side . and like you and others? Will never join or turning myself in this kind of attempt .

I agree, OP doesn't have a time or edge to answer all the comments on or questions on this thread.
Gambling is very risk but we must be very careful who to try and trust.

[virasog]

This is craps for any experience forum users, because at this point this is a clear scam attempts anything that make you lose control over your money is already a scam waiting to happen, and why should anyone Trust a red tagged forum member claiming to be trusted with money, and if the format works for him that well how come he is promoting the service when he should already made so much money that he won't need money any more, I repeat no one should trust this member, and I think this thread should be lock to avoid manipulative comments from alt of the ops that could try to put pressure to deceive others.

Don't worry OP's last post is last month and never that he did return to save His name meaning this is a clear scam attempt from His side . and like you and others? Will never join or turning myself in this kind of attempt .

When i see the word "Telegram", I at once knew that there are high chance for this person to scam. Most people scam on telegram and now these betting agents on Telegram are very hard to trust.
As far as OP is concerned, he will never return here because it is not very easy to scam here as people here on the forum identify shady services very quickly. However, on other platforms like facebook and telegram, such people are very active with their scam businesses/services.

[delfastTions]

This is craps for any experience forum users, because at this point this is a clear scam attempts anything that make you lose control over your money is already a scam waiting to happen, and why should anyone Trust a red tagged forum member claiming to be trusted with money, and if the format works for him that well how come he is promoting the service when he should already made so much money that he won't need money any more, I repeat no one should trust this member, and I think this thread should be lock to avoid manipulative comments from alt of the ops that could try to put pressure to deceive others.

Don't worry OP's last post is last month and never that he did return to save His name meaning this is a clear scam attempt from His side . and like you and others? Will never join or turning myself in this kind of attempt .

When i see the word "Telegram", I at once knew that there are high chance for this person to scam. Most people scam on telegram and now these betting agents on Telegram are very hard to trust.
As far as OP is concerned, he will never return here because it is not very easy to scam here as people here on the forum identify shady services very quickly. However, on other platforms like facebook and telegram, such people are very active with their scam businesses/services.

And this is primarily due to the difference in the audience of our forum and those people who communicate on these social networks.  There are too many naive and inexperienced users who actually believe scammers.  There are really a lot of such people, simply because in their lives they are accustomed to trusting other people, sometimes even strangers.  And so they think that this attitude of trust in a stranger extends to social networks.  And this is dangerous to do because you are right and the world of the Internet is filled with scammers of all stripes.  And many of them use elements of social psychology to process an unprepared, naive interlocutor and persuade him to transfer money to the desired account of the scammer.  Then, naturally, the scammer disappears, and the victim goees to the police and getting the money back in this case is already very problematic, as is identifying the scammer.  And if the amounts of stolen money are relatively small, then no one in the police will be involved in this search for money.