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July 11, 2024, 12:27:04 AM
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Hello to everyone at this forum. I want to introduce you to a sports betting service that I run with my 5 colleagues.

What is it?

We are your Telegram sports betting agent. We are available 24 hours a day (except Mondays, when we work from 08:00 GMT +8 to 22:00 GMT +8). Want to bet on sports? We are here for you. Send us the name of the match you want to bet on and the bet you want in a short message. The agent who is available at the moment opens your message in a short time, checks the match availability and places a bet for you. Shortly after he sends you a message about the status of your bet, odds and everything else.

Liquidity depends on the competition you bet on, for major sports competitions liquidity is almost unlimited. Thus, we have clients for whom we place six-figure sums on the UEFA EURO 2024 matches.

The most important thing is what we can offer you - the best odds on the market. Better than any European sports bookmaker you know (bet365, bwin, William Hill, Stake and any other). How do we do it? We are located in Asia, where we have access to a large selection of best Asian bookmakers that have no competition in the world when it comes to odds.

How do we make money? Simply, we have a percentage of the total turnover we generate in those bookies, regardless of whether your bet is a winner or a loser.

Once you see how our service works, and how much money you already have lost so far on bad odds in European bookmakers, you will easily get used to our service.

For any questions or anything else, we are at your disposal.

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July 11, 2024, 03:02:18 AM
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Ok, so I have to trust you to send you my money for a bet, then you use that money to place the bet in some Asian bookie, and if I win you give me my money back minus your fee. Did I understand correctly?

I would never send my money to strangers via Telegram. Why should I trust you?

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July 11, 2024, 04:11:38 AM
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How do we know you will not walk away with the money, do you really think the people on this forum would give their money to a user with only 1 post on this forum? That's not how trust works here. Telegram is a well-known platform for scams and is really hard to trust users there. So, i have bad news for your project, it will not work.

Maybe if a third party holds the money it have some future, but I'm sure OP will not agree on that.

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July 11, 2024, 06:14:24 AM
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The most important thing is what we can offer you - the best odds on the market. Better than any European sports bookmaker you know (bet365, bwin, William Hill, Stake and any other). How do we do it? We are located in Asia, where we have access to a large selection of best Asian bookmakers that have no competition in the world when it comes to odds.


More curious about that and your kind of system. So how are you better than the names you have mentioned? Or because a gambler will send you the name or list of games he wants to bet on and you make a choice of betting options for them on each game? How possible will that be? So many questions to this because I know gamblers bet on those platforms by making a choice of betting options by themselves on the game that they want to bet on and not only sending the game out to them for betting. So how is a gambler going to rely on you to make a choice of options for them? I guess it is only about odds for you.

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July 11, 2024, 07:28:44 AM
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Avoid this user

This would be a newbie account that is intending to scam. Posting Telegram username has been one of the characteristics of scammers these days.

What is the point of getting a betting agent when we all have devices that we can use to connect online? If do not not have online devices, we would not be on this forum.

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July 11, 2024, 09:59:05 AM
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Ok, so I have to trust you to send you my money for a bet, then you use that money to place the bet in some Asian bookie, and if I win you give me my money back minus your fee. Did I understand correctly?

I would never send my money to strangers via Telegram. Why should I trust you?

Hi. Actually, you didn't quite understand how the betting agents works. We do not take a fee from you.

How do we know you will not walk away with the money, do you really think the people on this forum would give their money to a user with only 1 post on this forum? That's not how trust works here. Telegram is a well-known platform for scams and is really hard to trust users there. So, i have bad news for your project, it will not work.

Maybe if a third party holds the money it have some future, but I'm sure OP will not agree on that.

To be honest, this post is more intended for slightly more experienced sports bettors, who may have already met some betting agents, because we are not the only ones in this business. We are aware that this is our first post on the forum, but we are also aware that those who actually already have experience with some betting agents already know how much a quality betting agent means.

The question is how many sports bettors on this forum are actually our potential customers, since we can't make money long term by betting $50 or some tiny stake for someone, our earnings from that aren't that good to cover our expenses and to earn something. But, we have actually opened this topic for not a large number of people who have a little more experience in sports betting, and they will very quickly understand that our interest is not to disappear with someone's money, and that this is not the way we make money.

The clients we have so far have mostly been connected on the basis of recommendations.

More curious about that and your kind of system. So how are you better than the names you have mentioned? Or because a gambler will send you the name or list of games he wants to bet on and you make a choice of betting options for them on each game? How possible will that be? So many questions to this because I know gamblers bet on those platforms by making a choice of betting options by themselves on the game that they want to bet on and not only sending the game out to them for betting. So how is a gambler going to rely on you to make a choice of options for them? I guess it is only about odds for you.

We are better than those mentioned because of the odds that we will offer you. For example, the odds for Spain to beat England in the Euro final at b365 at the time of writing this post are 2.37. We can stake on the victory of Spain at this moment at the odds of 2.55. We are sure that not a lot bookmakers in Europe can offer such a odd.

That's how we work, we don't suggest the customer what he will bet or so, the customer is the one who sends us the match, his bet selection on it and the stake amount. And we are the ones who stake it for him in minutes.

Avoid this user

This would be a newbie account that is intending to scam. Posting Telegram username has been one of the characteristics of scammers these days.

What is the point of getting a betting agent when we all have devices that we can use to connect online? If do not not have online devices, we would not be on this forum.
Charles, it's obvious that you didn't quite understand what we were offering. The identification of posting up a Telegram contact with scamming left us without comment.

Betting agents have not existed since yesterday, but for years and years, and they have their clientele, although we understand that you don't really understand how someone can be their client, because you also have an internet connection just like them. It is OK.
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July 11, 2024, 10:31:14 AM
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Charles, it's obvious that you didn't quite understand what we were offering. The identification of posting up a Telegram contact with scamming left us without comment.

Betting agents have not existed since yesterday, but for years and years, and they have their clientele, although we understand that you don't really understand how someone can be their client, because you also have an internet connection just like them. It is OK.
Or you do not understand what betting agent is than for you to come on this forum and aiming to scam.

Who are betting agents:

Betting agents, also known as betting brokers, function as liaisons between bettors and bookmakers, granting access to advantageous odds, augmented limits, and a variety of bookmakers through a single account or betting broker.

I do not even have to know the meaning because there are more than 3 betting agents in my street. They are everywhere I go to.

To be a betting agent means the agent can bet on behave of the bettors that come to him and a bettor will pay the agent the money that he wants to use to bet after telling the agent the matches he wants to bet on and the odds that he chose.

If you act as a betting agent and people send you meney, definitely I am certain that the people that sent you money have been scammed.


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July 11, 2024, 10:41:46 AM
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As you can see, this community is very skeptical of offers such as this, especially offers that aren't asking for large amount of money but are inferring they want larger bettors in sports. We have pretty much seen it all and if we get slightly worse odds betting on a book that's trusted, so be it. Rather money be safe then me be sorry I gave some rando 10k to bet for me.

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I don't know where this newbie always get their idea from like those who are here a dumb that they don't know were to go make account to gamble even upon all these casino's that are promoted here, someone could foolishly go and make deposit to your and then you place your bet on the gambling site you make account if you win then you take some of the percentage to yourself or you either block person who sent you money to place bet. I don't you are really serious on what you are doing here I guess you try some other place and not forum entirely because I believe none would ever listen to what you put here.

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Charles, it's obvious that you didn't quite understand what we were offering. The identification of posting up a Telegram contact with scamming left us without comment.

Betting agents have not existed since yesterday, but for years and years, and they have their clientele, although we understand that you don't really understand how someone can be their client, because you also have an internet connection just like them. It is OK.

I support Charles Tim tagging you, there's nothing in your post that guarantees the bettors' money, you posted it here as if you're a highly reputable person, you don't even have a platform you just have telegram that scammers are using to scam people, I prefer to bet on my own than giving my money to a random guy.
You have undermined us on how to trace a scammer you think your explanation is enough to convince us.

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I am familiar with with Betting agent so I have no doubt about the job. But as you can see there are members who does not understand it, besides you are a brand new account with no trading history. Without building up a good reputation first you have no chance at all to convince any member from this forum. Sorry, to break the hope.

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I don't know where this newbie always get their idea from like those who are here a dumb that they don't know were to go make account to gamble even upon all these casino's that are promoted here, someone could foolishly go and make deposit to your and then you place your bet on the gambling site you make account if you win then you take some of the percentage to yourself or you either block person who sent you money to place bet. I don't you are really serious on what you are doing here I guess you try some other place and not forum entirely because I believe none would ever listen to what you put here.

 Betting agent is a real thing - they tend to help those punters who have been limited by several bookies and would most likely be restricted by others if they decide to use them - so these agents help them out with their betting activities without the fear of being limited and in turn they earn some commission from it.

The only issue I see in this thread is if, the Op is here to scam by pretending to be in line with that kind of job or he’s here genuinely to help render the service - whichever the case is, he’ll have to do more than just creating a thread, he’ll have to show the community that he has good intentions and have been in their line of business for a long time and also prove to us that the safety of users funds are guaranteed (he could do that by making a deposit to any of the escrows in the forum) and if anyone should come with legit complaint against them it will be used to solve it and then tagged - if he’s unable to do this then this forum won’t be helpful to him.

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Betting agent is a real thing - they tend to help those punters who have been limited by several bookies and would most likely be restricted by others if they decide to use them - so these agents help them out with their betting activities without the fear of being limited and in turn they earn some commission from it.

The only issue I see in this thread is if, the Op is here to scam by pretending to be in line with that kind of job or he’s here genuinely to help render the service - whichever the case is, he’ll have to do more than just creating a thread, he’ll have to show the community that he has good intentions and have been in their line of business for a long time and also prove to us that the safety of users funds are guaranteed (he could do that by making a deposit to any of the escrows in the forum) and if anyone should come with legit complaint against them it will be used to solve it and then tagged - if he’s unable to do this then this forum won’t be helpful to him.

Hey! After posting this topic, we realized that vast majority of bitcointalk bettors are not exactly our target group, considering that 99% of them are bettors at a "low-level", with small stakes, and most of them have never even heard of betting agents. We are still looking for bettors who stake a few hundred dollars per bet at least. The average stake per bet that we stake for our customers is a few thousand dollars at the moment I would say, with the fact that we have clients who regularly stake four-digit amounts per bet.

Regarding the escrow service, I can say that we are ready to use it if there is an customer that is interesting to us (this refers to the stake amount per bet first of all, considering that we earn a small percentage of total turnover from the bookmakers, as we explained in previous posts, bettors who stake a few tens of dollars per bet are not our target group).
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Hey! After posting this topic, we realized that vast majority of bitcointalk bettors are not exactly our target group, considering that 99% of them are bettors at a "low-level", with small stakes,
99%? And what do you mean by low level, by the way?

You should be finding ways to convince us here, as we don't trust easily. We are used to betting on reputable casinos where we don't need a third party, and now you are introducing your service. It's a tough job to convince us, but please keep trying. Maybe you can get some members to avail themselves of your service.

and most of them have never even heard of betting agents.
This could be true, but personally, I heard about this, but not from a betting agent on Telegram which could be anonymous.

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OP, do you think it would be easy to convince members here to trust you with their funds when they have no clues about your identity? Looking at your account alone would scare members from giving you their money to do anything when there is no escrow to stand as middle man if the needs be. Already your account have been tagged and it would be difficult for anybody here to give in to your offer when you have no good reputation and nobody who is a member here can vouch for your service.

You should know that people are just being careful with their funds these days and are mindful of how they spend it looking at the situation of things.  How do you plan handling this situation as it is.now that you already got a tag and nobody can really tell because no one has patronised your services to vouch for your credibility.

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Hey! After posting this topic, we realized that vast majority of bitcointalk bettors are not exactly our target group, considering that 99% of them are bettors at a "low-level", with small stakes, and most of them have never even heard of betting agents. We are still looking for bettors who stake a few hundred dollars per bet at least. The average stake per bet that we stake for our customers is a few thousand dollars at the moment I would say, with the fact that we have clients who regularly stake four-digit amounts per bet.
I doubt you'll get customers here because what you are offering is risky and could easily turn into a scam. we've seen a lot of people here come and go offering services that are very suspicious and very risky and as you can see those concerns have been voiced out by some of the members. if you want people to trust you on this, build your reputation. also, saying that you are a betting agent doesn't really remove the concerns forum members have voiced out.

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I have never used a betting agency as a place to bet but some people are familiar with the word, well maybe it exists when you come up with a new account without any reputation then this will appear the reaction of many people including myself will not believe in you.

To be honest 100% I don't believe your offer especially directed to telegam which is clearly this is like an act of fraud to make a lot of money with your lure as a betting agent.

Remember the majority of users in the forum to bet by not using a betting agent they go directly to the casino and do it themselves without a second party like you.

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Hey! After posting this topic, we realized that vast majority of bitcointalk bettors are not exactly our target group, considering that 99% of them are bettors at a "low-level", with small stakes, and most of them have never even heard of betting agents. We are still looking for bettors who stake a few hundred dollars per bet at least. The average stake per bet that we stake for our customers is a few thousand dollars at the moment I would say, with the fact that we have clients who regularly stake four-digit amounts per bet.
I doubt you'll get customers here because what you are offering is risky and could easily turn into a scam. we've seen a lot of people here come and go offering services that are very suspicious and very risky and as you can see those concerns have been voiced out by some of the members. if you want people to trust you on this, build your reputation. also, saying that you are a betting agent doesn't really remove the concerns forum members have voiced out.
In my opinion, almost always such posts as the OP wrote on our forum are questioned by BTT users. 
And almost all readers think that there may be fraud in this offer.  In order to somehow identify your business on our forum, you need a certain level of initial trust on the part of users and for this you need to have a good and fairly long portfolio, which should be presented in the first post with the appropriate links. 
Then this discussion in a separate topic will probably not be a waste of time for the OP and those who read the topic.

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July 12, 2024, 07:42:34 AM
Last edit: July 12, 2024, 09:24:23 AM by freedomgo
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I have never used a betting agency as a place to bet but some people are familiar with the word, well maybe it exists when you come up with a new account without any reputation then this will appear the reaction of many people including myself will not believe in you.

To be honest 100% I don't believe your offer especially directed to telegam which is clearly this is like an act of fraud to make a lot of money with your lure as a betting agent.
That's why he acknowledge that this forum is not his target group.
Obviously, most of us here gamble withoua a 3rd party as we go directly depositing on our casino's account, it's easy as 1, 2, 3 if you are a crypto person. OP's offer is not attractive, so there's no reason to shift and use a betting agent which definitely a risky one compared to just directly betting on a gambling site of our choice.

Remember the majority of users in the forum to bet by not using a betting agent they go directly to the casino and do it themselves without a second party like you.

Sorry, but I think we call them (betting agent) as 3rd party, as you (gambler ) is the first party, while casino is the 2nd party.  Grin



Good idea. But I don’t understand why I need a telegram? If I can place a bet myself in an Asian bookmaker)

Definitely a platform used for you guys can communicate, but this isn't necessary for you as you can bet directly on sportsbook as you said.

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July 12, 2024, 08:29:52 AM
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Good idea. But I don’t understand why I need a telegram? If I can place a bet myself in an Asian bookmaker)
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