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July 21, 2024, 02:29:45 PM |
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Basically there is nothing that can benefit a person in an addiction situation, and quite the opposite, as we know, it is a disastrous situation that creates a lot of stress and tension in life.
And we can see that quite a few people are now addicted, meaning did they choose to become addicted from the start and suffer many disasters in life? I think not at all, because after all there will never be anyone who wants to experience suffering in any way.
What this means for me and in my opinion is that addiction is most likely not a choice, but is something that happens naturally without the person realizing it, not everyone realizes that the intention and purpose of earning income from gambling will make them addicted and dependent and experience many things. bad, meaning it was not intended or chosen from the start in a situation full of awareness.
I have the same opinion as you, I believe that no one wants to become a gambling addict because everyone is aware that addiction is never a good thing. In particular, gambling addiction will cause consequences such as bankruptcy, broken families, deadlocked lives...even leading to suicide. Does anyone want to fall into that situation? Of course no one. Once called an addiction, that means it's bad for us. So in my opinion, the reason may be because they are too subjective and do not realize they are addicted until things become more serious. And as we all know, once addicted, it is very difficult to quit. Addiction is a disease that is not easy to cure, in addition to your own determination, you also need the help of others. Yes, in any case, addiction is a bad situation because we tend to always treat it excessively, especially if we are talking about gambling which involves money, opportunities and risks, which in terms of impact, of course, as I have said before and you have repeated what where the point is that addiction is a very bad situation for a person's life, and yes, I will also admit the impact that you said, which is probably the worst, that there are people who commit suicide. The conclusion is of course like the point I made before that if we think using common sense and logic then addiction should not be a choice because of course no one will ever want to experience that situation in the first place. On the other hand, as you said, addiction is a disease that is very difficult to cure and I think there is no physical medicine that can help cure it.
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July 21, 2024, 03:37:00 PM |
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Addiction in general I heard something very fair by an addict which was there was always a choice but only on the first drink. After the first drink they fell into their old ways and were not able to stop themselves.
The same probably applies to gambling or any other kind of addiction possible. If you have no ability to levy control on yourself while gambling then its not going to work out and like above you have to avoid joining the same road which leads to your addiction.
I always argue a fixed budget and use that daily like a schedule but I understand those measures wont work for some. Good advice comes from people who faced down their addiction in the hardest way, dont start if you have no ability to stop is a smart choice.
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July 21, 2024, 05:29:17 PM |
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Addiction in general I heard something very fair by an addict which was there was always a choice but only on the first drink. After the first drink they fell into their old ways and were not able to stop themselves.
The same probably applies to gambling or any other kind of addiction possible. If you have no ability to levy control on yourself while gambling then its not going to work out and like above you have to avoid joining the same road which leads to your addiction.
I always argue a fixed budget and use that daily like a schedule but I understand those measures wont work for some. Good advice comes from people who faced down their addiction in the hardest way, dont start if you have no ability to stop is a smart choice.
In many cases, those who suffer from gambling addiction do not have a good understanding of gambling, so they lack the principles of gambling. Like managing a budget, managing time and knowing when it's time to stop, all of this can only be understood if someone learns, either from books or from other people's experiences. In general, there are many activities that can make someone addicted, but it must be admitted that gambling addiction is very difficult to overcome. On the other hand, if gambling addiction has a negative impact on yourself, your family or even your work, I think that is a sign to stop immediately. It's not bad to stop for a while, and come back again when things return to normal, because the purpose of gambling is to have fun, don't let addiction have a bad impact on life. We know that there is a lot of advice about gambling, and perhaps only a few can have a positive influence. Gambling advice should be used as a basis for overcoming bad possibilities in the future.
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July 21, 2024, 08:48:25 PM |
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Addiction in general I heard something very fair by an addict which was there was always a choice but only on the first drink. After the first drink they fell into their old ways and were not able to stop themselves.
The same probably applies to gambling or any other kind of addiction possible. If you have no ability to levy control on yourself while gambling then its not going to work out and like above you have to avoid joining the same road which leads to your addiction.
I always argue a fixed budget and use that daily like a schedule but I understand those measures wont work for some. Good advice comes from people who faced down their addiction in the hardest way, dont start if you have no ability to stop is a smart choice.
In many cases, those who suffer from gambling addiction do not have a good understanding of gambling, so they lack the principles of gambling. Like managing a budget, managing time and knowing when it's time to stop, all of this can only be understood if someone learns, either from books or from other people's experiences. In general, there are many activities that can make someone addicted, but it must be admitted that gambling addiction is very difficult to overcome. On the other hand, if gambling addiction has a negative impact on yourself, your family or even your work, I think that is a sign to stop immediately. It's not bad to stop for a while, and come back again when things return to normal, because the purpose of gambling is to have fun, don't let addiction have a bad impact on life. We know that there is a lot of advice about gambling, and perhaps only a few can have a positive influence. Gambling advice should be used as a basis for overcoming bad possibilities in the future. I was actually growing in to becoming a victim of addiction some time ago but was lucky enough I can came out of it as I understand better what exactly gambling entails, yeah is not something that one needs to completely rely on for maximizing profits or a job hence it will definitely ruin your life entirely where can even be borrowing to gamble, spending more time energy and resources, being very anxious, anxiety, depressed, not taking good care of yourself generally because all what you be thinking is how to get back your lost money and that is chasing your losses which is a very bad approach towards gambling which I now know better.
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July 22, 2024, 06:16:51 AM |
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Addiction in general I heard something very fair by an addict which was there was always a choice but only on the first drink. After the first drink they fell into their old ways and were not able to stop themselves.
The same probably applies to gambling or any other kind of addiction possible. If you have no ability to levy control on yourself while gambling then its not going to work out and like above you have to avoid joining the same road which leads to your addiction.
I always argue a fixed budget and use that daily like a schedule but I understand those measures wont work for some. Good advice comes from people who faced down their addiction in the hardest way, dont start if you have no ability to stop is a smart choice.
Casinos know this very well and therefore bombard everyone who could at least potentially be their client with advertising. Once you select “slots, gambling, roulette” in the search engine a couple of times, targeted advertising begins to appear everywhere, from browsers to applications. And unfortunately, no one really knows their level of self-control until they experience it themselves.
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July 22, 2024, 12:12:59 PM |
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Addiction in general I heard something very fair by an addict which was there was always a choice but only on the first drink. After the first drink they fell into their old ways and were not able to stop themselves.
The same probably applies to gambling or any other kind of addiction possible. If you have no ability to levy control on yourself while gambling then its not going to work out and like above you have to avoid joining the same road which leads to your addiction.
I always argue a fixed budget and use that daily like a schedule but I understand those measures wont work for some. Good advice comes from people who faced down their addiction in the hardest way, dont start if you have no ability to stop is a smart choice.
Casinos know this very well and therefore bombard everyone who could at least potentially be their client with advertising. Once you select “slots, gambling, roulette” in the search engine a couple of times, targeted advertising begins to appear everywhere, from browsers to applications. And unfortunately, no one really knows their level of self-control until they experience it themselves. Indeed, it keeps popping up and for sure there are people who will start showing their interest and will visit the site, and like what you mentioned no one knows how they can control their emotions, and same with the topic, addiction is your choice and how you work on it and how you manage to control your own decision making. It's your choice to push and continue or to quit and stop to avoid more bleeding on both your finances and the time that you will spent once you became addicted.
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July 22, 2024, 01:39:08 PM |
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if it was a choice then all gamblers would not choose to become gambling addicts. because basically addiction is not a person's choice, but a side effect of their irresponsible gambling and not understanding proper financial management. maybe for those of us who are not addicts it will be very easy for us to say that it is very easy not to be addicted to gambling, but when we look at addicts they are also initially like us who are not sure that they can be addicted to gambling. so this is quite a complicated issue for us to discuss because people's opinions can vary.
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July 22, 2024, 01:53:09 PM |
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Indeed, it keeps popping up and for sure there are people who will start showing their interest and will visit the site, and like what you mentioned no one knows how they can control their emotions, and same with the topic, addiction is your choice and how you work on it and how you manage to control your own decision making.
It's your choice to push and continue or to quit and stop to avoid more bleeding on both your finances and the time that you will spent once you became addicted.
Emotions can be individually controlled because at a point if you don't control your emotions it may ruind your entire financial life and another thing also to note is that greed should also be avoided because anytime you allow your greed and emotions to combine there is high likelihood that you end up becoming addicted, this is why we ought to stay at a level where those factors won't trigger our addictions but ultimately again I will say the level at which gambling get to you is based on individual level and not the casino or it promotion because on a number of times I have seen where those addicted to Gambling blame the Gambling sites and their promotions for they addictions, but just as you have said, it an individual thing and not the platform.
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July 22, 2024, 02:03:24 PM |
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but when we look at addicts they are also initially like us who are not sure that they can be addicted to gambling. so this is quite a complicated issue for us to discuss because people's opinions can vary.
Exactly I just wonder why op decided to deduce the whole concept about addiction being a choice. Addiction is kind of an unplanned event. It happens unknowingly with the gambling taken off guard. As a gambler when we play we just want to make the best out of it. So we just try to maximize our wins and minimize the risk of losing our games. Sometimes we might just see it as a regular way we do gamble but we might have been for long addicted. Gambling addiction isn't something anyone will choose. It happens on its own. So it now depends on the gamblers idea of self control. And being able to recognize when he is going astray.
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July 22, 2024, 02:41:51 PM |
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- If addiction is 100% a matter of choice, it means that it is desired and also goes through the right process. It's not because the first day you play gambling that you're immediately addicted. For sure, you will lose a lot of money before you become completely addicted to gambling.
That's why the recovery of an addict in rehabilitation also takes 2 years, if I'm not mistaken, and most of them have a really hard time recovering. It also takes time for them to fully recover.
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July 22, 2024, 02:55:29 PM |
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- If addiction is 100% a matter of choice, it means that it is desired and also goes through the right process. It's not because the first day you play gambling that you're immediately addicted. For sure, you will lose a lot of money before you become completely addicted to gambling.
That's why the recovery of an addict in rehabilitation also takes 2 years, if I'm not mistaken, and most of them have a really hard time recovering. It also takes time for them to fully recover.
You don't really have to believe what op said about gambling addiction being 100 percent a gambler's choice, that is obviously and completely not true, I myself having stayed around a few persons that became addicted to gambling, and even having two personal close friends that also were gambling addicts, I can tell you categorically that it's not never a gambler's choice to become addicted to gambling, approach those who are addicted to gambling and try to ask or find out from them how they got addicted, trust me, majority of them will tell you they don't even know how have any idea how they became addicted, others will tell you that they are not addicted to gambling,.which tells you that those ones are yet to even come to terms with the fact that they gambling way above what is considered to be normal.
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July 22, 2024, 04:16:46 PM |
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- If addiction is 100% a matter of choice, it means that it is desired and also goes through the right process. It's not because the first day you play gambling that you're immediately addicted. For sure, you will lose a lot of money before you become completely addicted to gambling.
That's why the recovery of an addict in rehabilitation also takes 2 years, if I'm not mistaken, and most of them have a really hard time recovering. It also takes time for them to fully recover.
You don't really have to believe what op said about gambling addiction being 100 percent a gambler's choice, that is obviously and completely not true, I myself having stayed around a few persons that became addicted to gambling, and even having two personal close friends that also were gambling addicts, I can tell you categorically that it's not never a gambler's choice to become addicted to gambling, approach those who are addicted to gambling and try to ask or find out from them how they got addicted, trust me, majority of them will tell you they don't even know how have any idea how they became addicted, others will tell you that they are not addicted to gambling,.which tells you that those ones are yet to even come to terms with the fact that they gambling way above what is considered to be normal. I completely agree with you on this and I have also contradict at the op post, addiction will never be any one choice considering the fact that there are times in life we find ourselves indulging in things that will didn't plan for yeah things happens, i have considered addiction as something that comes gradually before it finally becomes a habit unknowingly to the addicted gambler and there is no way it ever be any one's choice, because it has a lot of negativity where no one can wish to become a victim.
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July 22, 2024, 05:51:06 PM |
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- If addiction is 100% a matter of choice, it means that it is desired and also goes through the right process. It's not because the first day you play gambling that you're immediately addicted. For sure, you will lose a lot of money before you become completely addicted to gambling.
That's why the recovery of an addict in rehabilitation also takes 2 years, if I'm not mistaken, and most of them have a really hard time recovering. It also takes time for them to fully recover.
You don't really have to believe what op said about gambling addiction being 100 percent a gambler's choice, that is obviously and completely not true, I myself having stayed around a few persons that became addicted to gambling, and even having two personal close friends that also were gambling addicts, I can tell you categorically that it's not never a gambler's choice to become addicted to gambling, approach those who are addicted to gambling and try to ask or find out from them how they got addicted, trust me, majority of them will tell you they don't even know how have any idea how they became addicted, others will tell you that they are not addicted to gambling,.which tells you that those ones are yet to even come to terms with the fact that they gambling way above what is considered to be normal. If I may chime in, who actually takes the blame for a player's addiction. Gamblers own 100% control of the actions they take in a session. How they think, who they talk to, and the amount of money they wager all is dependent on the gambler. Addiction doesn't happen to everyone, but gamblers somehow are all indebted to addiction if they lose guard on their limitations. At first I dealt with similar believes of addicts not being the fault to their problem. But changed this false thoughts after going through some deep rooted research on this conversation which switched quickly, in me, with proves to see why player's are 100% the cause of their problem gambling. To avoid countervailing conversations it's wrong to tell them this, but within us, it's best we told ourselves the truth. Addicts were not kids the day they chose to chase after losses. The responsibility belongs to them like a property. Hence, elevating this thoughts can make players to understand it's their fault and accept the self blame which then could help in shaping the player's attitude to have a rethink.
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July 22, 2024, 06:12:27 PM |
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I completely agree with you on this and I have also contradict at the op post, addiction will never be any one choice considering the fact that there are times in life we find ourselves indulging in things that will didn't plan for yeah things happens, i have considered addiction as something that comes gradually before it finally becomes a habit unknowingly to the addicted gambler and there is no way it ever be any one's choice, because it has a lot of negativity where no one can wish to become a victim.
All gamblers claim that they will never be addicted, meaning that gambling addiction is seen as the negative side of gambling and they actually avoid addiction at all costs, but for those who frequently gamble will easily become addicted with emotional conditions that increasingly change in decisions to determine betting limits, they become more Losing self-control to avoid the risk of loss from gambling, this fact is the main reason why many gamblers increasingly experience gambling addiction and some of them must be treated psychologically to recover from gambling addiction.
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July 22, 2024, 06:24:18 PM |
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Addiction in general I heard something very fair by an addict which was there was always a choice but only on the first drink. After the first drink they fell into their old ways and were not able to stop themselves.
The same probably applies to gambling or any other kind of addiction possible. If you have no ability to levy control on yourself while gambling then its not going to work out and like above you have to avoid joining the same road which leads to your addiction.
I always argue a fixed budget and use that daily like a schedule but I understand those measures wont work for some. Good advice comes from people who faced down their addiction in the hardest way, dont start if you have no ability to stop is a smart choice.
If addiction does not have a severe effect on us then we have to know that we are not too addicted to that particular thing. Addiction can still be minimized and it is good we try as much to work on ourselves so we don't have to be complaining too much that we are not seeing any results. Addiction need to be controlled by us if we want to be getting results from what we are doing. When we are to in a hurry to be winning everytime we bet, we might be surprised that we could be addicted to such things. Gambling is meant to be fun not to be going in with full momentum without taking any risk management that could save us from stress.
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July 22, 2024, 06:49:25 PM |
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come to think of it, isn't addiction a choice? After reading lots of stories on the effects of being an addicted gambler, I feel it's 100% possible to tell myself that I can never be addicted to gambling and won't ever get addicted.
If for instance, I decide that I'm only going to gamble once a week and that at each time I will only gamble with an amount like $20 based on my current financial strength, would I ever become addicted to gambling? Isn't it because you don't have any plan in place and just gamble as your spirit leads that makes you become careless with your gambling and become addicted to the process?
That’s the thing about addiction, it doesn’t leave much room for you to decide which doesn’t make it more of your choice. It’s possible to gain a lot of control over how much engaged into gambling you are but for the addict, you completely lack that control over your gambling habit. It controls you and that, that isn’t your fault. Addiction is where most people don’t want to be but, they eventually find themselves in this hole and you want to get out but, it’s ever slippery. All gamblers claim that they will never be addicted, meaning that gambling addiction is seen as the negative side of gambling and they actually avoid addiction at all costs, but for those who frequently gamble will easily become addicted with emotional conditions that increasingly change in decisions to determine betting limits, they become more Losing self-control to avoid the risk of loss from gambling, this fact is the main reason why many gamblers increasingly experience gambling addiction and some of them must be treated psychologically to recover from gambling addiction.
No one wants to be associated with a character that is undermining and as such, they try to defend any form of addiction that is attributed to them but, if they all deny it, then the word ceases to have meaning. The truth is, you don’t get to call yourself an addict, the people who sees it does.
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July 22, 2024, 07:13:46 PM |
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If you are a gambler that gamble every weekend doesn't mean you are an addicted gambler, if one says you are addicted to gamble because you are gambling only at weekends, what about those gamblers that gambles everyday in a week? However gambling everyday doesn't shows that you are an addicted gambler, what makes you an addicted gambler is how expensively you are gambling and how irresponsible you are gambling also. Easily without bothering to answer people's opinions who say I'm addicted, I can manage my time and money in gambling. If circumstances are not favorable for me to respond to people's opinions that say I am addicted, I will ignore it because when I am silent, that is where I win from stupid arguments that will drain positive energy. Usually, when we respond, without realizing it we have started an argument.
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July 22, 2024, 07:34:15 PM |
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if it was a choice then all gamblers would not choose to become gambling addicts. because basically addiction is not a person's choice, but a side effect of their irresponsible gambling and not understanding proper financial management. maybe for those of us who are not addicts it will be very easy for us to say that it is very easy not to be addicted to gambling, but when we look at addicts they are also initially like us who are not sure that they can be addicted to gambling. so this is quite a complicated issue for us to discuss because people's opinions can vary.
They choose it by starting out. Many people know that gambling can be addictive. They think about it and in the end decide to try it out. Then they try it again and again and after trying for the 100th time they find out they're addicted and cannot stop, but they could stop after the first 10 or 20 runs to the casino. At that time they were still thinking straight and were not addicted, yet they consciously chose to keep playing. That's what OP is talking about. We always have a choice and if we choose to take that drug for the first time or get drunk for the first time, we open ourselves to addiction.
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July 22, 2024, 07:38:37 PM |
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It is but it doesn’t mean it’s not a difficult thing for people to overcome. I feel for those in that position as it seems like just something everyone should be able to easily overcome but we don’t know what it’s truly like for those having to deal with it. Heard to put yourself in someone’s should unless you’ve walked a mile in them. Just my two anyhow.
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July 22, 2024, 08:28:13 PM |
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Easily without bothering to answer people's opinions who say I'm addicted, I can manage my time and money in gambling. If circumstances are not favorable for me to respond to people's opinions that say I am addicted, I will ignore it because when I am silent, that is where I win from stupid arguments that will drain positive energy. Usually, when we respond, without realizing it we have started an argument.
There are stage in life where your life doesn't concern what everyone thinks about. You are 18 years which is permissable to bet, you have the money which is not stolen but your own money, you understand how it works but if even if you don't or loss money, you are definitely responsible for any consequences of your actions, no one dare tells you what you do and not to do unless you are out of line and I'm sure not only one person will say about it, it will be many. However, you should have someone to listen to, if you are been stubborn all the time. There are things you might not know you are doing in and because you don't take advice from others, people will stay away from telling you the truth. There are some people that will rather feed you with lies than the truth because it will looks like it will hurt your feelings.
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