[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs TJ Doheny 122lb Title fight-September

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Naoya Inoue will be back in action this coming September against TJ Doheny.

Some might question the choice of  opponent but Doheny is not a stranger in Japan anymore which makes this fight very sellable to Japan fight fans.

What do you think of this fight guys, cherry picking again?

https://www.badlefthook.com/2024/7/10/24195991/naoya-inoue-vs-tj-doheny-reportedly-being-finalized-september-boxing-news-2024

[Darker45]

I think this is just another option for Naoya right now. This may not push through though. Even the Akhmadaliev fight still remains on the table, right?

Anyway, I don't think Naoya says no to an opponent out of fear, so he's not really cherry picking. But I don't think Doheny is an opponent worthy of Naoya's caliber right now. This balding old man doesn't have even a slim chance against the monster. But this fight might still sell in Japan. Of course, Naoya is their very own and they might also want him to avenge Nakajima's knockout loss to this Irish last year.

Here's another fight not worth betting. A Naoya moneyline win will certainly be less than 1.10.

[FinneysTrueVision]

If Inoue was going to take a tune up fight I would have preferred it had been at featherweight. He is already undisputed at 122 and has nothing left to prove. This fight against Doheny will be a mismatch. Sam Goodman, who might be his opponent in December, is also a mismatch. Unless Nakatani moves up, there are no more intriguing fights for him at super bantam.

126 has much more competitive fights available, and it would be in Inoue’s best interest to start campaigning at that weight and becoming acclimated before fighting against a champion.

[Dave1]

I think this is just another option for Naoya right now. This may not push through though. Even the Akhmadaliev fight still remains on the table, right?

No, the Akhmadaliev was already out of the table, it will be TJ who will get a crack at Inoue. But with that, he might be stripped though of one of the belts if he is not going to fight Akhmadaliev.

Anyway, I don't think Naoya says no to an opponent out of fear, so he's not really cherry picking. But I don't think Doheny is an opponent worthy of Naoya's caliber right now. This balding old man doesn't have even a slim chance against the monster. But this fight might still sell in Japan. Of course, Naoya is their very own and they might also want him to avenge Nakajima's knockout loss to this Irish last year.

Here's another fight not worth betting. A Naoya moneyline win will certainly be less than 1.10.

It's was the decision of Top Rank to skip Akhmadaliev for good. So most likely this will be his last fight at 122 lbs and nothing more to proved at this division. But going up to 126 lbs might be different though, as those champions are naturally bigger than him like Rey Vargas and then has the power like him. So gonna be interesting to see him move up and then take up all the challenges and become another champion at featherweight.

[Baofeng]

It's not cherry pick on the side of Naoya, it's more likely that Bob Arum wanted to have an easy fight for Inoue, at least he had to take a bring because in his last 5 fights or so, he either faces champions or former champion.

And I reckon that this could Inoue's last fight at 122 lbs as he is ready to go up in the next division and conquer it. Although as one boxer goes up weight, it is going to be tougher. So let's see, for sure boxing fans are excited for him to go up at Featherweight and see if he can bring that power.

[Questat]

I wouldn't question if this is a cherry-picked fight because Inoue has nothing to prove anymore. He already won 4 belts in this division, so he is the best. Now we can give him anyone he wants to fight, but I'm hoping that after this, which I presume will be another KO win for him, he'll move up and challenge the champion in the next weight class. No more "what ifs" or uncertainties—it's about time for him to leave this division and push his limits further.

[coin-investor]

I checked Doheny's highlights, and he had 2 Unanimous decision losses to Sam Goodman and Michael Conlan; these two fighters are not considered extraordinary fighters, and Inoue can beat these two guys who beat Doheny.

Michael Conlan mauled Doheny to win by unanimous decision if Conlan can do this easily, why not Inoue, Inoue's camp just wants Inoue to stack up wins before moving to the featherweight division.

There's no more challenge for Inoue in the Super Bantamweight if after he wins this fight, he still fights a regular fighter, then Inoue will just become a boring fighter who's afraid of the challenges. His real challenge can only be found in the Featherweight division.

 

[Jating]

I wouldn't question if this is a cherry-picked fight because Inoue has nothing to prove anymore. He already won 4 belts in this division, so he is the best. Now we can give him anyone he wants to fight, but I'm hoping that after this, which I presume will be another KO win for him, he'll move up and challenge the champion in the next weight class. No more "what ifs" or uncertainties—it's about time for him to leave this division and push his limits further.

Exactly, he has clean up the division, faces all the champions and obviously the undisputed already, no need to stay at 122 lbs. Might be his farewell fight and then let others fight for the belt that he will vacated.

And most likely after his fight with Puma and which he was knockdown, most likely he was thinking to really move up in weight and not take any risk. He might feel motivated again if he will go up another weight class. At least there will be enough reasons for him to stay laser focus again and who know, he could be the first fighter in modern era to be undisputed in 3 weight classes. Him and Crawford are currently the boxers who have conquered and become undisputed in 2 weight classes. But Inoue going up in 126 and claim all the belt will cement his legacy but it will not be an easy road for him.

[aioc]

I wouldn't question if this is a cherry-picked fight because Inoue has nothing to prove anymore. He already won 4 belts in this division, so he is the best. Now we can give him anyone he wants to fight, but I'm hoping that after this, which I presume will be another KO win for him, he'll move up and challenge the champion in the next weight class. No more "what ifs" or uncertainties—it's about time for him to leave this division and push his limits further.

The only good news for Inoue is if he agrees to fight Casimero or moves up to the next division, which is the featherweight division; besides Casimero, I cannot think of any other fighter who can evoke interest in the Superwelterweight division.

And this Doheny fight is going to be easy. I would not even watch this fight, only the highlights, because I don't think he has something better to offer than what other fighters Inoue beat.

[stadus]

I wouldn't question if this is a cherry-picked fight because Inoue has nothing to prove anymore. He already won 4 belts in this division, so he is the best. Now we can give him anyone he wants to fight, but I'm hoping that after this, which I presume will be another KO win for him, he'll move up and challenge the champion in the next weight class. No more "what ifs" or uncertainties—it's about time for him to leave this division and push his limits further.

The only good news for Inoue is if he agrees to fight Casimero or moves up to the next division, which is the featherweight division; besides Casimero, I cannot think of any other fighter who can evoke interest in the Superwelterweight division.

And this Doheny fight is going to be easy. I would not even watch this fight, only the highlights, because I don't think he has something better to offer than what other fighters Inoue beat.

I think that would be really good news, but it seems like Inoue is making a lot of excuses and dismissing Casimero based on his ranking or achievements. He implies that Casimero isn't deserving of his attention. This fight is sure to be very easy for him, but if Inoue really wants to prove to the doubters that he isn't evading Casimero, he should take care of him in his next fight after this one.

[AmoreJaz]

I wouldn't question if this is a cherry-picked fight because Inoue has nothing to prove anymore. He already won 4 belts in this division, so he is the best. Now we can give him anyone he wants to fight, but I'm hoping that after this, which I presume will be another KO win for him, he'll move up and challenge the champion in the next weight class. No more "what ifs" or uncertainties—it's about time for him to leave this division and push his limits further.

The only good news for Inoue is if he agrees to fight Casimero or moves up to the next division, which is the featherweight division; besides Casimero, I cannot think of any other fighter who can evoke interest in the Superwelterweight division.

And this Doheny fight is going to be easy. I would not even watch this fight, only the highlights, because I don't think he has something better to offer than what other fighters Inoue beat.

I think that would be really good news, but it seems like Inoue is making a lot of excuses and dismissing Casimero based on his ranking or achievements. He implies that Casimero isn't deserving of his attention. This fight is sure to be very easy for him, but if Inoue really wants to prove to the doubters that he isn't evading Casimero, he should take care of him in his next fight after this one.

I don't think Inoue is making a lot of excuses when it comes to Casimero. Because Casimero already had his chance before but because of his controversial postponements of his previous fights, it made him far away to get the potential match-up with Inoue. So I don't blame Inoue here for not facing Casimero because there were circumstances that made it not happen.

When it comes to this upcoming fight, I don't doubt Inoue being the heavy favourite on this match. Though the KO percentage of Doheny is about 77%, but with 4 losses on his record vs 0 loss of Inoue. It would give an impression that Doheny will not be the boxer that will give the first loss for Inoue.

[stadus]

I wouldn't question if this is a cherry-picked fight because Inoue has nothing to prove anymore. He already won 4 belts in this division, so he is the best. Now we can give him anyone he wants to fight, but I'm hoping that after this, which I presume will be another KO win for him, he'll move up and challenge the champion in the next weight class. No more "what ifs" or uncertainties—it's about time for him to leave this division and push his limits further.

The only good news for Inoue is if he agrees to fight Casimero or moves up to the next division, which is the featherweight division; besides Casimero, I cannot think of any other fighter who can evoke interest in the Superwelterweight division.

And this Doheny fight is going to be easy. I would not even watch this fight, only the highlights, because I don't think he has something better to offer than what other fighters Inoue beat.

I think that would be really good news, but it seems like Inoue is making a lot of excuses and dismissing Casimero based on his ranking or achievements. He implies that Casimero isn't deserving of his attention. This fight is sure to be very easy for him, but if Inoue really wants to prove to the doubters that he isn't evading Casimero, he should take care of him in his next fight after this one.

I don't think Inoue is making a lot of excuses when it comes to Casimero. Because Casimero already had his chance before but because of his controversial postponements of his previous fights, it made him far away to get the potential match-up with Inoue. So I don't blame Inoue here for not facing Casimero because there were circumstances that made it not happen.

You mean the fight between Inoue and Casimero being postponed because of Casimero's fault?

I doubt that's what really happened. The fight was already scheduled, but when the pandemic hit, it was postponed and eventually canceled since Covid stayed longer than expected. But when everything was already clear, Inoue didn't grant Casimero the fight anymore. That's why the fans are still talking about that fight, as it was supposed to happen if Inoue's camp had made it possible.

[robelneo]

I don't think Inoue is making a lot of excuses when it comes to Casimero. Because Casimero already had his chance before but because of his controversial postponements of his previous fights, it made him far away to get the potential match-up with Inoue. So I don't blame Inoue here for not facing Casimero because there were circumstances that made it not happen.

You mean the fight between Inoue and Casimero being postponed because of Casimero's fault?

I doubt that's what really happened. The fight was already scheduled, but when the pandemic hit, it was postponed and eventually canceled since Covid stayed longer than expected. But when everything was already clear, Inoue didn't grant Casimero the fight anymore. That's why the fans are still talking about that fight, as it was supposed to happen if Inoue's camp had made it possible.

Inoue's camp never mentioned Casimero, but on Casimero's side, Inoue is always the topic, and they made him a laughing stock, especially when he was knocked down in his last fight.

I think we're not going to see the Inoue - Casimero fight; Casimero has done a lot of taunting but to no avail, Inoue just wants to cherry-pick before moving up the featherweight, and Casimero will continue bragging that Inoue is avoiding all throughout their boxing career.

After Inoue got out of the Super Bantamweight, there's a possibility that Casimero will reign in that division.

[Text]

TJ Doheny might not be the most high-profile opponent, but he's definitely known in Japan and has proven himself in the ring. I get why some are calling it cherry picking, Doheny's record doesn't exactly scream title shot. I wouldn't call it cherry-picking; Doheny's skills and experience can make for a competitive fight. But you can't deny Doheny's name recognition in Japan after those past fights. It's a good business move to get the fans out in Tokyo.

[Yaunfitda]

I wouldn't question if this is a cherry-picked fight because Inoue has nothing to prove anymore. He already won 4 belts in this division, so he is the best. Now we can give him anyone he wants to fight, but I'm hoping that after this, which I presume will be another KO win for him, he'll move up and challenge the champion in the next weight class. No more "what ifs" or uncertainties—it's about time for him to leave this division and push his limits further.

The only good news for Inoue is if he agrees to fight Casimero or moves up to the next division, which is the featherweight division; besides Casimero, I cannot think of any other fighter who can evoke interest in the Superwelterweight division.

And this Doheny fight is going to be easy. I would not even watch this fight, only the highlights, because I don't think he has something better to offer than what other fighters Inoue beat.

I think that would be really good news, but it seems like Inoue is making a lot of excuses and dismissing Casimero based on his ranking or achievements. He implies that Casimero isn't deserving of his attention. This fight is sure to be very easy for him, but if Inoue really wants to prove to the doubters that he isn't evading Casimero, he should take care of him in his next fight after this one.

I don't think Inoue is making a lot of excuses when it comes to Casimero. Because Casimero already had his chance before but because of his controversial postponements of his previous fights, it made him far away to get the potential match-up with Inoue. So I don't blame Inoue here for not facing Casimero because there were circumstances that made it not happen.

You mean the fight between Inoue and Casimero being postponed because of Casimero's fault?

I doubt that's what really happened. The fight was already scheduled, but when the pandemic hit, it was postponed and eventually canceled since Covid stayed longer than expected. But when everything was already clear, Inoue didn't grant Casimero the fight anymore. That's why the fans are still talking about that fight, as it was supposed to happen if Inoue's camp had made it possible.

No, Casimero is to blame for the fight not happening. If you recall, Inoue fought Butler and knock him out in the 11th (if I'm not mistaken). But that could be Casimero, because that time it was supposedly Butler vs Casimero and the winning fighting Inoue next. But what happen is that Casimero went to England and he posted himself in the sauna trying to lose that extra pound, but then the British boxing commission has some rules about losing weight and so Casimero was not allowed and another Filipino takes his place and fought Butler and obviously Butler won. So that is the best chance of Casimero that time, if only he make the weight and then beat Butler, he could have face Inoue already, but fate intervene and so he lost that only chance he got.

[LogitechMouse]

Anyway, I don't think Naoya says no to an opponent out of fear, so he's not really cherry picking. But I don't think Doheny is an opponent worthy of Naoya's caliber right now. This balding old man doesn't have even a slim chance against the monster. But this fight might still sell in Japan. Of course, Naoya is their very own and they might also want him to avenge Nakajima's knockout loss to this Irish last year.

I don't also want to think like this, but he just said no to some fighters that we know are strong like Casimero and Akhmadaliev. Aside from that, there are some articles saying that he doesn't want to fight outside of Japan. I don't understand why he doesn't want to fight in the US and only wants to fight in his home country. He isn't cherry-picking opponents yes, but he's scared on some of the fighters hence, he doesn't want to face them.

I mean if you're a strong fighter, you must always, always challenge yourself to be the best, right? Just look at Canelo where he climbed up in weight to test different divisions. Our own Manny Pacquiao also did that hence, he is the 8-division world champion. If you think you're the best out there, at least try to challenge yourself and fight other boxers, and not those fighters that aren't your level like his opponent now.

As for the fight selling in Japan, it will be, and always will be. He might be the most popular Japanese boxer right now, and they want to see them fight on their own country hence, it will be getting sold out again like what happened in his last fight where the whole stadium is filled with ~55,000 people.

[cabron]

Anyway, I don't think Naoya says no to an opponent out of fear, so he's not really cherry picking. But I don't think Doheny is an opponent worthy of Naoya's caliber right now. This balding old man doesn't have even a slim chance against the monster. But this fight might still sell in Japan. Of course, Naoya is their very own and they might also want him to avenge Nakajima's knockout loss to this Irish last year.

I don't also want to think like this, but he just said no to some fighters that we know are strong like Casimero and Akhmadaliev. Aside from that, there are some articles saying that he doesn't want to fight outside of Japan. I don't understand why he doesn't want to fight in the US and only wants to fight in his home country. He isn't cherry-picking opponents yes, but he's scared on some of the fighters hence, he doesn't want to face them.

I mean if you're a strong fighter, you must always, always challenge yourself to be the best, right? Just look at Canelo where he climbed up in weight to test different divisions. Our own Manny Pacquiao also did that hence, he is the 8-division world champion. If you think you're the best out there, at least try to challenge yourself and fight other boxers, and not those fighters that aren't your level like his opponent now.

As for the fight selling in Japan, it will be, and always will be. He might be the most popular Japanese boxer right now, and they want to see them fight on their own country hence, it will be getting sold out again like what happened in his last fight where the whole stadium is filled with ~55,000 people.

Arum wants Doheny to fight in Japan since he is also known in Japan already. But this guy is old already. If the previous opponents of Inoue didn't get to win, what chances does this balding old man have as said by Darker45?  Always in Japan, I think the government also wants Inoue to just be in Japan to help their economy at the same time.

Inoue should be going 126 already. In the new weight class, he could start in the top 10 and climb up. Regardless of who he fights, he will fill that stadium. If money is all they want he can cherry-pick all the time, people wouldn't mind but he fights in US from time to time. But most of all, Arum should promote Inoue in the US to make him popular in the country.  

[Darker45]

Anyway, I don't think Naoya says no to an opponent out of fear, so he's not really cherry picking. But I don't think Doheny is an opponent worthy of Naoya's caliber right now. This balding old man doesn't have even a slim chance against the monster. But this fight might still sell in Japan. Of course, Naoya is their very own and they might also want him to avenge Nakajima's knockout loss to this Irish last year.

I don't also want to think like this, but he just said no to some fighters that we know are strong like Casimero and Akhmadaliev. Aside from that, there are some articles saying that he doesn't want to fight outside of Japan. I don't understand why he doesn't want to fight in the US and only wants to fight in his home country. He isn't cherry-picking opponents yes, but he's scared on some of the fighters hence, he doesn't want to face them.

I mean if you're a strong fighter, you must always, always challenge yourself to be the best, right? Just look at Canelo where he climbed up in weight to test different divisions. Our own Manny Pacquiao also did that hence, he is the 8-division world champion. If you think you're the best out there, at least try to challenge yourself and fight other boxers, and not those fighters that aren't your level like his opponent now.

As for the fight selling in Japan, it will be, and always will be. He might be the most popular Japanese boxer right now, and they want to see them fight on their own country hence, it will be getting sold out again like what happened in his last fight where the whole stadium is filled with ~55,000 people.

It's one thing to dodge a strong opponent, it's another to say no to somebody who isn't worth fighting. Casimero belongs to the latter, at least for now. Of course, Casimero can still climb to the top and become a worthy challenger of Inoue. For now, he's merely a nobody calling out the undisputed champion. To say that Naoya is scared of Casimero is a big joke. I can't see Casimero surviving 6 rounds with Naoya.

As to Akhmadaliev, why would Naoya be scared of him? He was even defeated by Tapales, who was knocked out cold by Naoya. It wasn't Naoya's decision to not face Akhmadaliev.

Whoever the promoters ask Naoya to fight against, he will fight. But, yeah, it must be in his hometown. This one at least is one thing we can criticize Naoya for. He always wants to have the homecourt advantage.

[Kemarit]

Anyway, I don't think Naoya says no to an opponent out of fear, so he's not really cherry picking. But I don't think Doheny is an opponent worthy of Naoya's caliber right now. This balding old man doesn't have even a slim chance against the monster. But this fight might still sell in Japan. Of course, Naoya is their very own and they might also want him to avenge Nakajima's knockout loss to this Irish last year.

I don't also want to think like this, but he just said no to some fighters that we know are strong like Casimero and Akhmadaliev. Aside from that, there are some articles saying that he doesn't want to fight outside of Japan. I don't understand why he doesn't want to fight in the US and only wants to fight in his home country. He isn't cherry-picking opponents yes, but he's scared on some of the fighters hence, he doesn't want to face them.

I mean if you're a strong fighter, you must always, always challenge yourself to be the best, right? Just look at Canelo where he climbed up in weight to test different divisions. Our own Manny Pacquiao also did that hence, he is the 8-division world champion. If you think you're the best out there, at least try to challenge yourself and fight other boxers, and not those fighters that aren't your level like his opponent now.

As for the fight selling in Japan, it will be, and always will be. He might be the most popular Japanese boxer right now, and they want to see them fight on their own country hence, it will be getting sold out again like what happened in his last fight where the whole stadium is filled with ~55,000 people.

Arum wants Doheny to fight in Japan since he is also known in Japan already. But this guy is old already. If the previous opponents of Inoue didn't get to win, what chances does this balding old man have as said by Darker45?  Always in Japan, I think the government also wants Inoue to just be in Japan to help their economy at the same time.

Inoue should be going 126 already. In the new weight class, he could start in the top 10 and climb up. Regardless of who he fights, he will fill that stadium. If money is all they want he can cherry-pick all the time, people wouldn't mind but he fights in US from time to time. But most of all, Arum should promote Inoue in the US to make him popular in the country.  

I don't know about him to stop climbing and fight the top 10. When he went from bantamweight to super-bantamweight, there are no tune-up for Inoue. He went to Stephen Fulton got his 2 belts and then fought Marlon Tapales so it will be the same route for him at 126 lbs that's why all the champions are already in the notice that they are going to be challenge by Inoue and they are going to welcome him.

I do agree though that one thing that we criticized of Inoue is not fighting outside of his native country. But that's how Japanese are, I mean they can sell out a 50,000 arena and everyone is shouting their hometown hero. And even if he as knockdown by Nery, he still comes back and knock him out for good. So good test for him and it might be that fight is his preparation on how powerful 126 lbs is and he take all of it.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Good, I already posted that this fight is going to happen here. I wouldn't say that this i is cherry pick fight, but just a fight that will make Inoue active at least this year although there is a possibility that he might fight another one before the end of the year, so we will see.

I know that some of you are surprise TJ Doheny, but this guy is winning his last couple of fights in Japan, although only one fighter that he fought is a Japanese. He had some credentials as former champion, but he lost to Sam Goodman, who is rated number 1 by two governing bodies and another possible opponent of Inoue at the end of the year.