[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs TJ Doheny 122lb Title fight-September

[freedomgo]

Good, I already posted that this fight is going to happen here. I wouldn't say that this i is cherry pick fight, but just a fight that will make Inoue active at least this year although there is a possibility that he might fight another one before the end of the year, so we will see.

I know that some of you are surprise TJ Doheny, but this guy is winning his last couple of fights in Japan, although only one fighter that he fought is a Japanese. He had some credentials as former champion, but he lost to Sam Goodman, who is rated number 1 by two governing bodies and another possible opponent of Inoue at the end of the year.

He is a decent fighter based on his record, and he won his last three fights, all held in Japan. His last bout was against a Filipino, while the other two prior to that were against Japanese fighters, and he won all by TKO. However, my concern is that he has not fought a boxer with a resume like Inoue, so I think this will be a mismatch.

In addition, TJ Doheny is already 37 years old, so he is at the peak of his career, and I'm afraid that after this, he might retire, especially if he suffers a KO from a heavy hitter like Inoue.

Based on his record, he has 26 wins, 20 of which are by KO/TKO, while he has 4 defeats.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/611407

[robelneo]

He is a decent fighter based on his record, and he won his last three fights, all held in Japan. His last bout was against a Filipino, while the other two prior to that were against Japanese fighters, and he won all by TKO. However, my concern is that he has not fought a boxer with a resume like Inoue, so I think this will be a mismatch.

The closest is Michael Conlan, who lost by a unanimous decision. All his other losses come from unanimous decisions, and it's not even close, so against top opponents, he was dominated

In addition, TJ Doheny is already 37 years old, so he is at the peak of his career, and I'm afraid that after this, he might retire, especially if he suffers a KO from a heavy hitter like Inoue.

This fight could be easy for Inoue; it's a cherry-picked fight. Doheny will not offer anything different from all of Inoue's opponents; he will not survive Inoue's assault and will end up in an early knockout.

[Kemarit]

Good, I already posted that this fight is going to happen here. I wouldn't say that this i is cherry pick fight, but just a fight that will make Inoue active at least this year although there is a possibility that he might fight another one before the end of the year, so we will see.

I know that some of you are surprise TJ Doheny, but this guy is winning his last couple of fights in Japan, although only one fighter that he fought is a Japanese. He had some credentials as former champion, but he lost to Sam Goodman, who is rated number 1 by two governing bodies and another possible opponent of Inoue at the end of the year.

He is a decent fighter based on his record, and he won his last three fights, all held in Japan. His last bout was against a Filipino, while the other two prior to that were against Japanese fighters, and he won all by TKO. However, my concern is that he has not fought a boxer with a resume like Inoue, so I think this will be a mismatch.

In addition, TJ Doheny is already 37 years old, so he is at the peak of his career, and I'm afraid that after this, he might retire, especially if he suffers a KO from a heavy hitter like Inoue.

Based on his record, he has 26 wins, 20 of which are by KO/TKO, while he has 4 defeats.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/611407

And that's what attract Bob Arum to have him with Inoue, he is on a winning streak and has been fighting in Japan. Although the Filipino that he last fought in not that well-known though but it is still a win for TJ.

Nevertheless, it seems that everyone is very excited to see Inoue back again in the ring after knocking out Nery and for sure we are all looking for that kind of win and probably if we are going to bet, it might be what round TJ will go down. The KO line is not going to be very attractive, we all know that. So might be better to bet with greater odds as the rounds Inoue will end this fight.

[Maslate]

Nevertheless, it seems that everyone is very excited to see Inoue back again in the ring after knocking out Nery and for sure we are all looking for that kind of win and probably if we are going to bet, it might be what round TJ will go down. The KO line is not going to be very attractive, we all know that. So might be better to bet with greater odds as the rounds Inoue will end this fight.

Based on Doheny's last three fights, we can say that he is a knockout artist, so I'm hoping that he will not change his style even against Inoue. From what I've seen in Inoue's recent fights, he has faced several KO artist boxers. However, it's a shame for them that once they taste Inoue's power, they switch from attack mode to defense mode. Some even play pure defense to survive the full rounds, but in the later rounds, they still get tired, and Inoue finds their weakness to knock them out.

[Yaunfitda]

Nevertheless, it seems that everyone is very excited to see Inoue back again in the ring after knocking out Nery and for sure we are all looking for that kind of win and probably if we are going to bet, it might be what round TJ will go down. The KO line is not going to be very attractive, we all know that. So might be better to bet with greater odds as the rounds Inoue will end this fight.

Based on Doheny's last three fights, we can say that he is a knockout artist, so I'm hoping that he will not change his style even against Inoue. From what I've seen in Inoue's recent fights, he has faced several KO artist boxers. However, it's a shame for them that once they taste Inoue's power, they switch from attack mode to defense mode. Some even play pure defense to survive the full rounds, but in the later rounds, they still get tired, and Inoue finds their weakness to knock them out.

Yeah, we can say that he is a knockout artist, but what kind of opponents that he knockout? what I mean is the quality of them? do his opponent has a losing record and so they might be really vulnerable to being knockout. But I do agree that when Inoue land that first power shot of him, they tend to turtle and cover up, like Butler who just round the whole 11 rounds and doesn't want to engage until he was caught with another power and that's it. Same thing might apply to TJ as well, he could be a powerful puncher, but boy once he tasted Inoue's power, he will be a different fighter as he has to watch that power and not get caught otherwise it will be over.

[Kemarit]

There is a good read about Inoue picking TJ over Akhmadaliev. Most of them are giving Inoue a "pass" here, meaning it's ok for him to fight TJ.

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-picking-tj-doheny-step-back-not-an-affront--184882

And so it's understandable and it's hard to criticized Inoue at this point in his career. I mean we have seen who he had faced before, so maybe he just need to lay low as he also wants to fight or at least that's why Bob Arum wanted of him before going up in weight class next year.

Instead, Inoue is most likely going to skip Akhmadaliev entirely, taking on IBF mandatory Sam Goodman in December before moving on to the featherweight division in 2025, according to promoter Bob Arum.

[Russlenat]

There is a good read about Inoue picking TJ over Akhmadaliev. Most of them are giving Inoue a "pass" here, meaning it's ok for him to fight TJ.

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-picking-tj-doheny-step-back-not-an-affront--184882

And so it's understandable and it's hard to criticized Inoue at this point in his career. I mean we have seen who he had faced before, so maybe he just need to lay low as he also wants to fight or at least that's why Bob Arum wanted of him before going up in weight class next year.

Instead, Inoue is most likely going to skip Akhmadaliev entirely, taking on IBF mandatory Sam Goodman in December before moving on to the featherweight division in 2025, according to promoter Bob Arum.

We don't criticize him for whom he'll choose to fight as he has already beaten all the champions in this division, making him the undisputed champion. What we criticize is that Inoue is taking too long to move up when it’s very clear that he can still carry his power and speed and dominate the champions in the featherweight division. I really hope that this is Inoue's last fight in this division because with all these news coming out, people are already expecting that he'll move up later this year or early next year. He needs to be challenged now in the new division because here, he only makes his opponents look like punching bags. ( no disrespect).

[Maslate]

Nevertheless, it seems that everyone is very excited to see Inoue back again in the ring after knocking out Nery and for sure we are all looking for that kind of win and probably if we are going to bet, it might be what round TJ will go down. The KO line is not going to be very attractive, we all know that. So might be better to bet with greater odds as the rounds Inoue will end this fight.

Based on Doheny's last three fights, we can say that he is a knockout artist, so I'm hoping that he will not change his style even against Inoue. From what I've seen in Inoue's recent fights, he has faced several KO artist boxers. However, it's a shame for them that once they taste Inoue's power, they switch from attack mode to defense mode. Some even play pure defense to survive the full rounds, but in the later rounds, they still get tired, and Inoue finds their weakness to knock them out.

Yeah, we can say that he is a knockout artist, but what kind of opponents that he knockout? what I mean is the quality of them? do his opponent has a losing record and so they might be really vulnerable to being knockout. But I do agree that when Inoue land that first power shot of him, they tend to turtle and cover up, like Butler who just round the whole 11 rounds and doesn't want to engage until he was caught with another power and that's it. Same thing might apply to TJ as well, he could be a powerful puncher, but boy once he tasted Inoue's power, he will be a different fighter as he has to watch that power and not get caught otherwise it will be over.

That's really the big difference as it will come down to the quality of opponents. Butler, who benefited from the disqualification of Casimero, didn't look like a champion during his undisputed fight with Inoue in the bantamweight division. And in the super bantamweight division, Luis Nery was hyped as a champion and even challenged Inoue in his home country, but like Inoue's previous fights, it ended in a KO—not even a close fight.

Actually, until now, I can only remember one good fight where Inoue struggled, although he still won in the end, and that was against the old Donaire. I'm referring to the first fight, as the rematch didn't look good for Donaire.

[Finestream]

Actually, until now, I can only remember one good fight where Inoue struggled, although he still won in the end, and that was against the old Donaire. I'm referring to the first fight, as the rematch didn't look good for Donaire.

Who could forget that? That was the best fight in the bantamweight division that I've witnessed. Donaire was able to give Inoue a scare after hitting him hard; it's just unfortunate that Donaire's power wasn't enough to KO Inoue. If he were still younger, it would have likely resulted in a KO. Donaire doesn't throw a lot of punches and he just relies on his power and timing. But as he has gets older, his power has declined as well. Since Inoue seems to have a solid chin and good stamina, he doesn't get tired easily and even knows how to stand up after getting knocked down.

The highlights of that fight are already on the internet. From time to time, when I want to witness some exciting boxing, I watch it again.

[crwth]

I'm curious why it has become "cherry-picking" now. Is it because there are still unannounced or finalized fights so far? They are probably preserving his statistics, but it will already be a target of criticism if this is true.

I am now curious as to what the skill level of his opponents is within the weight division. It seems to be an issue or something.

[freedomgo]

I'm curious why it has become "cherry-picking" now. Is it because there are still unannounced or finalized fights so far? They are probably preserving his statistics, but it will already be a target of criticism if this is true.

I am now curious as to what the skill level of his opponents is within the weight division. It seems to be an issue or something.

Some believe that Inoue "cherry-picked" TJ Doheny because Inoue declined his mandatory challenger, which resulted in losing his belt. Instead, he fought this fighter, who's ranked lower than the other boxers in the same division. But Inoue doesn’t care anyway, as there's a rumor that he is moving up to a new weight class after this fight. So, it doesn’t make sense for him to keep the belt since it will be vacated once he moves up. Besides, he has been the undisputed champion of this division for a while, so it’s time to let go and push himself for a new challenge.

[Yatsan]

A mismatch I guess if this is really a title fight so most likely, as others have said, this is w tune up game for Inoue. I'd more want to see him with "bigger" fighters if he really wants to create an impact to boxing industry aside from what he have done already which is being undefeated for years.

I'm curious why it has become "cherry-picking" now. Is it because there are still unannounced or finalized fights so far? They are probably preserving his statistics, but it will already be a target of criticism if this is true.

I am now curious as to what the skill level of his opponents is within the weight division. It seems to be an issue or something.

Cherry picking is not a bad thing given that he is still earning those Ws and is not just given out of pity. But yest, most likely it is the case on this which is to preserve the record however, until when would this be? For sure he is recieving a lot of challenges from other fighters who wants to test Naoya's skills as well and for boxing fans, it's how things should really go. I'm reading on some articles that this ain't final yet and I would prefer him fighting other fighters but if this pushes through then I'd still watch it because that's Inoue still.

[TravelMug]

I'm curious why it has become "cherry-picking" now. Is it because there are still unannounced or finalized fights so far? They are probably preserving his statistics, but it will already be a target of criticism if this is true.

I am now curious as to what the skill level of his opponents is within the weight division. It seems to be an issue or something.

Some believe that Inoue "cherry-picked" TJ Doheny because Inoue declined his mandatory challenger, which resulted in losing his belt. Instead, he fought this fighter, who's ranked lower than the other boxers in the same division. But Inoue doesn’t care anyway, as there's a rumor that he is moving up to a new weight class after this fight. So, it doesn’t make sense for him to keep the belt since it will be vacated once he moves up. Besides, he has been the undisputed champion of this division for a while, so it’s time to let go and push himself for a new challenge.

He doesn't care because he has set the standard already and there are arguments that he is the pound for pound right now with the way he clean up his division. But we all know that there will be always going to be criticism, just like Floyd when he went 50-0 and still there are fans and analyst that says he is not the GOAT.

In any case, perhaps Inoue just want to have some fun in the ring and not face a mandatory or former champion. And that is the hard thing about being undisputed, there will be a lot of mandatories, that it's hard to fight them all and the only thing you can do is vacant one or two of your belts and then fight the boxers that you want.

[LogitechMouse]

Good, I already posted that this fight is going to happen here. I wouldn't say that this i is cherry pick fight, but just a fight that will make Inoue active at least this year although there is a possibility that he might fight another one before the end of the year, so we will see.

I know that some of you are surprise TJ Doheny, but this guy is winning his last couple of fights in Japan, although only one fighter that he fought is a Japanese. He had some credentials as former champion, but he lost to Sam Goodman, who is rated number 1 by two governing bodies and another possible opponent of Inoue at the end of the year.

He is a decent fighter based on his record, and he won his last three fights, all held in Japan. His last bout was against a Filipino, while the other two prior to that were against Japanese fighters, and he won all by TKO. However, my concern is that he has not fought a boxer with a resume like Inoue, so I think this will be a mismatch.

In addition, TJ Doheny is already 37 years old, so he is at the peak of his career, and I'm afraid that after this, he might retire, especially if he suffers a KO from a heavy hitter like Inoue.

Based on his record, he has 26 wins, 20 of which are by KO/TKO, while he has 4 defeats.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/611407

Disregarding the 4 defeats, he's almost like a smaller version of Beterbiev because he has 20 KOs out of his 26 wins, and he's 37 years old already.

Anyway, saying that he won his 3 previous fights through TKO means that he's a heavy hitter as well. The problem though is that he's facing a heavy hitter that has punches way heavier than him. Also add the age factor as well because we know how impactful age is to a boxer. As you go older, your endurance and stamina might decline. Well, I will still not change how I see Inoue. He's scared to fight the best fighters to the point that he's kind of cherry-picking his opponents. I also don't know why he doesn't want to fight outside of his country.

[Dave1]

Good, I already posted that this fight is going to happen here. I wouldn't say that this i is cherry pick fight, but just a fight that will make Inoue active at least this year although there is a possibility that he might fight another one before the end of the year, so we will see.

I know that some of you are surprise TJ Doheny, but this guy is winning his last couple of fights in Japan, although only one fighter that he fought is a Japanese. He had some credentials as former champion, but he lost to Sam Goodman, who is rated number 1 by two governing bodies and another possible opponent of Inoue at the end of the year.

He is a decent fighter based on his record, and he won his last three fights, all held in Japan. His last bout was against a Filipino, while the other two prior to that were against Japanese fighters, and he won all by TKO. However, my concern is that he has not fought a boxer with a resume like Inoue, so I think this will be a mismatch.

In addition, TJ Doheny is already 37 years old, so he is at the peak of his career, and I'm afraid that after this, he might retire, especially if he suffers a KO from a heavy hitter like Inoue.

Based on his record, he has 26 wins, 20 of which are by KO/TKO, while he has 4 defeats.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/611407

Disregarding the 4 defeats, he's almost like a smaller version of Beterbiev because he has 20 KOs out of his 26 wins, and he's 37 years old already.

Anyway, saying that he won his 3 previous fights through TKO means that he's a heavy hitter as well. The problem though is that he's facing a heavy hitter that has punches way heavier than him. Also add the age factor as well because we know how impactful age is to a boxer. As you go older, your endurance and stamina might decline. Well, I will still not change how I see Inoue. He's scared to fight the best fighters to the point that he's kind of cherry-picking his opponents. I also don't know why he doesn't want to fight outside of his country.

He doesn't want to fight outside of his country because he might be earning more if he fight in his native Japan. And he can filled the whole arena, let's say Saitama super arena with almost 40,000 capacity. So given that, it could translates into millions for Inoue already and then he will not have to get out of his comfort zone.

But I guess this is just one factor that we criticized of him though, not wanting to go out and fight in the USA for exposure. But that's it, perfect record, we can argue that he could be the p4p king right now fighting Doheny in Japan again and most likely he is going to win even if we see TJ also having that power.

[stadus]

He doesn't want to fight outside of his country because he might be earning more if he fight in his native Japan. And he can filled the whole arena, let's say Saitama super arena with almost 40,000 capacity. So given that, it could translates into millions for Inoue already and then he will not have to get out of his comfort zone.

But I guess this is just one factor that we criticized of him though, not wanting to go out and fight in the USA for exposure. But that's it, perfect record, we can argue that he could be the p4p king right now fighting Doheny in Japan again and most likely he is going to win even if we see TJ also having that power.

He should not only be satisfied with what he is making fighting in Japan, he should push himself to earn more.
Based on this article https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/naoya-inoue-net-worth

Net Worth   $7 Million (Approx.)

That's his net worth in 2024.. So it's just a small amount of money considering he had a lot of fights already just to earn that small compared to a boxer like Pacman whom he is compared that had earn a lot of money even in just one fight.

Pacman networth now is $220.
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/manny-pacquiao-net-worth/

[Viscore]

He should not only be satisfied with what he is making fighting in Japan, he should push himself to earn more.
Based on this article https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/naoya-inoue-net-worth

Net Worth   $7 Million (Approx.)

That's his net worth in 2024.. So it's just a small amount of money considering he had a lot of fights already just to earn that small compared to a boxer like Pacman whom he is compared that had earn a lot of money even in just one fight.

Pacman networth now is $220.
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/manny-pacquiao-net-worth/

And with that small income from his career, Bob, being his promoter, is not making a lot of money from him. So, he also wants to bring Inoue to the US to fight more champions. I hope Inoue will push himself and accept the challenges, as that is the only way he can grow his value. He should take the opportunity while he is still in his prime because the fights are just waiting and money will follow; it's just up to him to grab them and take the risk.

[mirakal]

He should not only be satisfied with what he is making fighting in Japan, he should push himself to earn more.
Based on this article https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/naoya-inoue-net-worth

Net Worth   $7 Million (Approx.)

That's his net worth in 2024.. So it's just a small amount of money considering he had a lot of fights already just to earn that small compared to a boxer like Pacman whom he is compared that had earn a lot of money even in just one fight.

Pacman networth now is $220.
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/manny-pacquiao-net-worth/

And with that small income from his career, Bob, being his promoter, is not making a lot of money from him. So, he also wants to bring Inoue to the US to fight more champions. I hope Inoue will push himself and accept the challenges, as that is the only way he can grow his value. He should take the opportunity while he is still in his prime because the fights are just waiting and money will follow; it's just up to him to grab them and take the risk.

Just relax, they are taking it slow but surely. Inoue's camp knows his value, so they don't want him to be careless and just fight anyone who challenges him. But you guys are right; he doesn't earn a lot, and that's a given since he is fighting in a lower division. Based on stats, the money is in the heavier divisions. For Inoue to earn bigger money, he has to continue moving up and beating the champions, which I don't think is impossible to happen. With Inoue's gift as a boxer, he can move up and still dominate. His enemy is only his own limitations, but currently, he is at a comfortable weight, so he might need to fight in more weight classes to reach his limitation.

[AmoreJaz]

Just relax, they are taking it slow but surely. Inoue's camp knows his value, so they don't want him to be careless and just fight anyone who challenges him. But you guys are right; he doesn't earn a lot, and that's a given since he is fighting in a lower division. Based on stats, the money is in the heavier divisions. For Inoue to earn bigger money, he has to continue moving up and beating the champions, which I don't think is impossible to happen. With Inoue's gift as a boxer, he can move up and still dominate. His enemy is only his own limitations, but currently, he is at a comfortable weight, so he might need to fight in more weight classes to reach his limitation.

Definitely, Inoue's camp has their eyes on a much bigger prize and we don't know their plans on this one. That's their business, so I won't think that they are just sitting on his potential and not doing their own calculations for their prizefighter.

Inoue is only 31 years old this year. If he will be busy for the next 9 years before he reaches 40, he will still gain more titles if he will embark a bloody and active years ahead. In my opinion, 9 years for a boxer is a long one as they can schedule a couple of fights in a year. Though they can arrange more if their promoter is good in haggling deals with other promoters.

[Jating]

He doesn't want to fight outside of his country because he might be earning more if he fight in his native Japan. And he can filled the whole arena, let's say Saitama super arena with almost 40,000 capacity. So given that, it could translates into millions for Inoue already and then he will not have to get out of his comfort zone.

But I guess this is just one factor that we criticized of him though, not wanting to go out and fight in the USA for exposure. But that's it, perfect record, we can argue that he could be the p4p king right now fighting Doheny in Japan again and most likely he is going to win even if we see TJ also having that power.

He should not only be satisfied with what he is making fighting in Japan, he should push himself to earn more.
Based on this article https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/naoya-inoue-net-worth

Net Worth   $7 Million (Approx.)

That's his net worth in 2024.. So it's just a small amount of money considering he had a lot of fights already just to earn that small compared to a boxer like Pacman whom he is compared that had earn a lot of money even in just one fight.

Pacman networth now is $220.
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/manny-pacquiao-net-worth/

Wasn't aware that his net worth is just about $7 million. But I just that's already huge amount of money to him, I mean this division unfortunately, doesn't have the attention and if I'm not mistaken, it's around $200,000 or at least that is the purse bid of the lower division. So maybe for now Inoue and his camp is thinking that they are getting a lot of money from his fights especially inside the country.

But obviously, if he will get out and fight in the US, maybe every fight could be worth $1 million or higher with the PPV and live gates + the guaranteed money that he will get from it. And that's what really separates Manny Pacquiao from the rest of the Asian boxers right now is that he is really bankable star in the US. And just imagine if Saudi has existed during his primes, Pacquiao could really generated a lot of money throughout his career.