Lautauro Martinez for Ballon D’or Vs Vini and others

[Oluwa-btc]

I think it might be Vinicius Jr but a name not mentioned in the OP is Rodri of Man City. He won the PL title and was player of the tournament with Spain winning Euro 2024.

It’s much tougher now since the step down from peak CR7 and Messi is huge.

Id love Rodri but how about Dani Carvajal then? Didn't he win the Champions League Competition, ( Scored a goal during the finals ), Won the La Liga. Won the Euros Competition and also played a huge role in the defense likewise. 

This nominations for this Ballon d'or are crazy and funny for real. I don't want to pick a side but if I'm to do I'd say Vinicius Junior, during the Champions League Competition, he had a great time, assisting and also scoring mandatory goals for Real Madrid. It's fingers crossed right now, let the best man be voted in between.

Lautaro Martinez stats are damn impressive, I didn't take a look at him until two days ago when having a chat with my pal about the Ballon d'or.

[emrecemsan]

To tell the truth, I'm favouring Rodri for Ballon d'Or now. Because I believe he deserves the most this time.    People shouldn't look at this prize like the player with most goals or assists wins it. It is a bad way to assess it.

There are already prizes for that like European Golden Shoe and so on. Ballon d'Or has much more different criteria. Especially after winning Euro 2024, I think Rodri is even closer to getting that prize. As for Messi, I don't think he should be given it. It wouldn't be fair. He won the last Copa America, I know but I still don't think he deserves more than Rodri. Messi doesn't even play in Europe anymore.

[IceLincoln]

It doesn't matter what we think or discuss here. I want to believe the winner is already known to inner circles. Players like Vini and Bellingham are just for the PR. Looking at the stats, Vini abd Bellingham don't come close at all. If Bellingham won the Euro 2024, he would've been placed ahead of Vini. If people won by merits, Lewandowski would have won it in 2021 ahead of Messi despite having more goal/assist tally. That's why I want to believe that Martinez won't win it this year.

The problem of selecting the golden player is there’s no set rule’s and guidelines to the selection and the criteria varies . FIFA need to give us the criterias openly we’re past Ronaldo and Messi era let’s start anew.
Vinicius jnr might be the most exciting player right now accompanied with his goals and assists but achievements of Lautauro Martinez supersedes his .
2021 wasn’t for Lewy Messi had more achievements and individual awards

[nelson4lov]

It doesn't matter what we think or discuss here. I want to believe the winner is already known to inner circles. Players like Vini and Bellingham are just for the PR. Looking at the stats, Vini abd Bellingham don't come close at all. If Bellingham won the Euro 2024, he would've been placed ahead of Vini. If people won by merits, Lewandowski would have won it in 2021 ahead of Messi despite having more goal/assist tally. That's why I want to believe that Martinez won't win it this year.

The problem of selecting the golden player is there’s no set rule’s and guidelines to the selection and the criteria varies . FIFA need to give us the criterias openly we’re past Ronaldo and Messi era let’s start anew.
Vinicius jnr might be the most exciting player right now accompanied with his goals and assists but achievements of Lautauro Martinez supersedes his .
2021 wasn’t for Lewy Messi had more achievements and individual awards

We'll have to agree ro disagree on that 2021 Lewy defeat to Messi because Lewy has more G/A assist including trophies for that year amongst other stats. But that's just btw. I'm sure Martinez won't stand a chance against the likes of Vini and Bellingham. If there's anybody that can rival them since G/A doesn't seem to be the main criteria for emerging a winner, then Rodri can win it. I'd be glad it either Rodri and Martinez will get to win it. It's going to be a close call though.

[Oluwa-btc]

To tell the truth, I'm favouring Rodri for Ballon d'Or now. Because I believe he deserves the most this time.    People shouldn't look at this prize like the player with most goals or assists wins it. It is a bad way to assess it.

There are already prizes for that like European Golden Shoe and so on. Ballon d'Or has much more different criteria. Especially after winning Euro 2024, I think Rodri is even closer to getting that prize. As for Messi, I don't think he should be given it. It wouldn't be fair. He won the last Copa America, I know but I still don't think he deserves more than Rodri. Messi doesn't even play in Europe anymore.

If Rodri deserves it more, what about Dani Carvajal? He scored in the Champions League finals against Borrussia Dortmund. He won the UEFA European Champions League Competition, he won the La Liga Competition. He was also amongst the squad that won the European Championship with the Spanish National Football Federation. Are you saying you want to exclude him. I once thought he merited it though, but when you pay to a close stats of other players, I feel like he should come fourth finally.

He won the English Premier League Competition. He won the best player in the European Championship and Europe Championship, I don't think he has a place in the amongst those that won the Ballon d'or.
This shiit should either be given to Vinicius Junior or Lautaro Martinez. They're both hardworking and they're players that have merited it last season.

[Josefjix]

To tell the truth, I'm favouring Rodri for Ballon d'Or now. Because I believe he deserves the most this time.    People shouldn't look at this prize like the player with most goals or assists wins it. It is a bad way to assess it.

There are already prizes for that like European Golden Shoe and so on. Ballon d'Or has much more different criteria. Especially after winning Euro 2024, I think Rodri is even closer to getting that prize. As for Messi, I don't think he should be given it. It wouldn't be fair. He won the last Copa America, I know but I still don't think he deserves more than Rodri. Messi doesn't even play in Europe anymore.

The Ballon d'Or definitely between Vinicius Jr, Jude Bellingham and Rodri. These are my favorites to win the Ballon d'Or based on their spectacular performance. Rodri have played major role in the midfield of Manchester City. Pep Guardiola spots the Spaniard to be a very important player for the team and with his presence, Manchester City can dominate and win matches without stress but in his absence, it's really a long day for them I think. The Citizens have best players that are experienced and capable of enacting the smooth running improvement.

[Sunderland]

To tell the truth, I'm favouring Rodri for Ballon d'Or now. Because I believe he deserves the most this time.    People shouldn't look at this prize like the player with most goals or assists wins it. It is a bad way to assess it.

There are already prizes for that like European Golden Shoe and so on. Ballon d'Or has much more different criteria. Especially after winning Euro 2024, I think Rodri is even closer to getting that prize. As for Messi, I don't think he should be given it. It wouldn't be fair. He won the last Copa America, I know but I still don't think he deserves more than Rodri. Messi doesn't even play in Europe anymore.

Yep the main criteria for Ballon d'Or are not only based on goals and assists only, fair play and Club/national team success are also among the criteria for winning Ballon d'Or.
Even though Messi no longer plays in Europe now, he could win this title again if his performance was very good in the last season because since 2007 every player in the world is eligible to be selected as the candidate to win Ballon d'Or.

[Docnaster]

To tell the truth, I'm favouring Rodri for Ballon d'Or now. Because I believe he deserves the most this time.    People shouldn't look at this prize like the player with most goals or assists wins it. It is a bad way to assess it.

There are already prizes for that like European Golden Shoe and so on. Ballon d'Or has much more different criteria. Especially after winning Euro 2024, I think Rodri is even closer to getting that prize. As for Messi, I don't think he should be given it. It wouldn't be fair. He won the last Copa America, I know but I still don't think he deserves more than Rodri. Messi doesn't even play in Europe anymore.

Rodri had a very fantastic campaign last season by winning the English Premier League title with Manchester City and the European Championship with the Spain national team of which he played a huge part in winning both trophies for his club and country so I perfectly understand why he's been considered as a major contender for the Balon D'or. That being said, I think Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham stands better chances of winning the Balon D'or ahead of the Rodri because they had better performances and achievements than Rodri did last season.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

The Ballon D'or awards always have disputed results. The fans are never happy with the results. I think it's one of the most prestigious awards in the world. And it's normal to have disputes. Lautauro Martinez is having two great seasons at Inter. Not only in his last season but also in the season before that, he had great stats there. But I don't think he has impressed everybody. I don't know if he could have achieved the same stats in another team other than Inter. He achieved good stats as a special part of a special team. But I don't know if he could have achieved the same stats in another challenge. I think for these reasons he will not be a strong candidate for the Ballon D'or.

[boltz]

The Ballon D'or awards always have disputed results. The fans are never happy with the results. I think it's one of the most prestigious awards in the world. And it's normal to have disputes. Lautauro Martinez is having two great seasons at Inter. Not only in his last season but also in the season before that, he had great stats there. But I don't think he has impressed everybody. I don't know if he could have achieved the same stats in another team other than Inter. He achieved good stats as a special part of a special team. But I don't know if he could have achieved the same stats in another challenge. I think for these reasons he will not be a strong candidate for the Ballon D'or.

So true! I think the last Ballon D'or where fans where happy was with Luka Modric right ? That was a fair decision in that year but since then , I can't remember fans being happy with who was the winner of Ballon D'or. Lautaro is a true contender but so is Vinicius and so is Rodri and in my opinion, Rodri should win because he was player of Euro 2024 , he had massive influence in his national team + he provided assists. I also won't be surprised if we see Vini Jr to win just because he scored the winning goal of UCL final and he also had one blast season in LaLiga where he scored important goals in important games. 

[Frankolala]

Any other name aside  Vini, Jude Bellingham is just a push by their fans to force us to believe that they are deserving of this award. And in my estimation it is ridiculous. These players have had brilliant records from the last season. And Lautauro Martinez, is also a top contender for this award...his records are damm impressive from being a Scudetto winner to Copa to top scorer. And I agree with everyone who says his name also should be in the list. I disagree with anyone who will want Toni Kroos, Rodri or Carvajal to be in the list with the earlier mentioned names. While they are fantastic players, their records are not as brilliant as the ones I mentioned.

Lautauro is not a push off or push by fans. The man deserves it, his achievements and statistics is there to prove it. He had a very outstanding season both National and club wise.
For me he’s the BEST candidate for the Ballon D’or.

After Argentina won Copa America, and Martinez was the one who scored the winning goal his chances of winning Ballon d'or increased and that was when some persons started checking his achievements last season. He was a great player and contributed towards Inter success, his performance during Copa America was also brilliant.

Jude Bellingham and Vini failed to win their nations cup and that is why you see that they are having a competitor currently. I think Martinez deserves it more than the other two because his performance was consistent in all competitions.

[SmartCharpa]

Any other name aside  Vini, Jude Bellingham is just a push by their fans to force us to believe that they are deserving of this award. And in my estimation it is ridiculous. These players have had brilliant records from the last season. And Lautauro Martinez, is also a top contender for this award...his records are damm impressive from being a Scudetto winner to Copa to top scorer. And I agree with everyone who says his name also should be in the list. I disagree with anyone who will want Toni Kroos, Rodri or Carvajal to be in the list with the earlier mentioned names. While they are fantastic players, their records are not as brilliant as the ones I mentioned.

I agree with you, we believe Rodri, Carvajal, and Toni Kroos performances were outstanding last season, but I do not believe their names belong on the list of players who deserve the world's best award. I was surprised to see Rodri on the list, he was even ranked as the first player who deserves the award, and I was like, for what?! What has he achieved for the previous season that led his name to the list and even ranked the first players? Many supporters believe that Rodri deserves the award because of his contribution to Manchester City last season, they didn't lose any of the games that Rodri played with them, and to me that isn't good enough for him to achieve it. If Manchester City won the Champions League last season, I would not talk, and I would agree that he deserved it.

Vinicuis, on the other hand, many people believe he deserves it due to his impressive performance in the Champions League, no player performed as well as Vinicuis in the Champions League, but according to international records, Vinicuis did not deserve the award because he only scored two goals and they were eliminated in the quarterfinals.

[Solosanz]

It doesn't seem so, Martinez is currently at 8th rank, the chance is completely low. I think it's either rank 1-5, Yamal quite deserved because he bring Spain to win EURO, but overall performance Rodri should become the winner.

So true! I think the last Ballon D'or where fans where happy was with Luka Modric right ? That was a fair decision in that year but since then , I can't remember fans being happy with who was the winner of Ballon D'or. Lautaro is a true contender but so is Vinicius and so is Rodri and in my opinion, Rodri should win because he was player of Euro 2024 , he had massive influence in his national team + he provided assists. I also won't be surprised if we see Vini Jr to win just because he scored the winning goal of UCL final and he also had one blast season in LaLiga where he scored important goals in important games.  

In that year FIFA can choose correctly the player that deserved to win Ballon d'Or because there have been many years they reward to undeserved players. If FIFA always reward Cristiano Ronaldo to win Ballon d'Or, I believe people will say FIFA is fair.

[Hirose UK]

To tell the truth, I'm favouring Rodri for Ballon d'Or now. Because I believe he deserves the most this time.    People shouldn't look at this prize like the player with most goals or assists wins it. It is a bad way to assess it.

There are already prizes for that like European Golden Shoe and so on. Ballon d'Or has much more different criteria. Especially after winning Euro 2024, I think Rodri is even closer to getting that prize. As for Messi, I don't think he should be given it. It wouldn't be fair. He won the last Copa America, I know but I still don't think he deserves more than Rodri. Messi doesn't even play in Europe anymore.

Rodri had a very fantastic campaign last season by winning the English Premier League title with Manchester City and the European Championship with the Spain national team of which he played a huge part in winning both trophies for his club and country so I perfectly understand why he's been considered as a major contender for the Balon D'or. That being said, I think Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham stands better chances of winning the Balon D'or ahead of the Rodri because they had better performances and achievements than Rodri did last season.

If compare and assess the three, I would say that Rodri will never be able to surpass Vinicius or Bellingham as long as these two players are still with Real Madrid, and last season the success of the two Real Madrid players was far above Rodri success.
He will not be strong competitor in the fight for the championship title, in fact I not sure that Rodri assessment in the event to compete for the Ballon d'Or title will be good enough later.
What Rodri got was only limited to success with the club with domestic competitions, he was unable to show good performance in all the competitions he participated in last season.
But one thing that gave Rodri higher assessment was his success in becoming part of the Spanish national team to win Euro 2024, it just that even though he got the title, his performance and contribution were not so satisfying.
I doubt this will be reference for him to be able to compete later.

[Catenaccio]

It doesn't seem so, Martinez is currently at 8th rank, the chance is completely low. I think it's either rank 1-5, Yamal quite deserved because he bring Spain to win EURO, but overall performance Rodri should become the winner.

Odds shock me. How do Yamal and Willams can be given better odds than Martinez?

They had past good season with their clubs and won Euro 2024 with their national team Spain with good personal contributions for the team and that trophy too. Even their performances and contributions are good, it's not enough to compare with Martinez's performances and it's not fair and correct to say Yamal or Williams played better than Lautaro Martinez in the past season and in this summer at national team level.

[Marvelockg]

It doesn't seem so, Martinez is currently at 8th rank, the chance is completely low. I think it's either rank 1-5, Yamal quite deserved because he bring Spain to win EURO, but overall performance Rodri should become the winner.

it would have been a straight win for vini had it been he has good attitude and also played well in the Copa America. While the champions league was on, his overall performance and personality in the game displayed what a top balon d'or contender should possess but his poor performance for his country speaks otherwise. Jude Bellingham on the other hand is just a an over hyped player that gets lucky to score at big stages and even though he's closer to the top on the list of the most likely to win the balon d'or, I feel that rodri deserves it more. Rodri has won Euro 2024, Premier League, Club World Cup & UEFA Super Cup and played a crucial role in all of those trophies. But here is the reality that will me most likely happen, Jude Bellingham will win the balon d'or, it will bring a lot of controversy but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people have tried to push him up above his level and are rooting for him to get hold of the balon d'or.

[davis196]

I really don't know who is going to win the Baloon D'or, but I think that Lautauro Martinez won't win this award.
Serie A isn't what it used to be and the top goal scorer of Serie A isn't respected as the best striker in Europe.
I expect the next Baloon D'or winner to play in La Liga(Real Madrid). Bellingham didn't impress me at all during the Euro 2024, but England reached the final. Vinicius Jr. disappointed in the Brazilian national team and he didn't won Copa America. It's kinda weird for me to finally realize that the "Messi vs. Ronaldo" era is over and the Baloon D'or doesn't have a clear favorite for winning this award.

[Sg4j1n3ll0]

Lautauro Martinez was serie A best player and highest goal scorer last season.
He Won the Italian Super Cup
Won the Serie A
Won Copa America and was the highest goal scorer.
He has more individual award than Vinicius jnr or any other player on the list and also has some good trophies.
Based on the criteria for ballon D’or as the overall golden ball he’s the best candidate but sadly he’s not been talked about enough.

Please what has Vinicius jnr or Jude Bellingham got over him (if you say UCL he has National Trophy)
Vinicius and Jude Bellingham both have
1.La Liga
2.UEFA Champions League
3.Super cup
I don’t think any of them have any individual awards, so why are they the most talked about.

do you really think that lautaro martinez can win the ballon d'or he will certainly be in the running to win it but now to say that he was incisive in everything seems a bit risky to me, certainly among the top 10 but really there are many who can win the ball I'll leave you with Carlo Ancelotti's statements: Asked about the next Ballon d'Or, then added: "Vinicius Junior of Real Madrid will win the Ballon d'Or, in my opinion. Carvajal also did very well, he won the La Liga, the Champions League and scored in the final, he won the European Championship... but Vinicius is young, he has an excellent reputation, he won the La Liga, he scored in the Champions League in the Final and in the Semi-finals... He scored two goals in Munich, let's not forget that."
surely if Messi was there he would win it ahaha

[bering]

I really don't know who is going to win the Baloon D'or, but I think that Lautauro Martinez won't win this award.
Serie A isn't what it used to be and the top goal scorer of Serie A isn't respected as the best striker in Europe.
I expect the next Baloon D'or winner to play in La Liga(Real Madrid). Bellingham didn't impress me at all during the Euro 2024, but England reached the final. Vinicius Jr. disappointed in the Brazilian national team and he didn't won Copa America. It's kinda weird for me to finally realize that the "Messi vs. Ronaldo" era is over and the Baloon D'or doesn't have a clear favorite for winning this award.

I am not sure what date the voting will be closed but if i am not mistaken the nominees will be announce on September 4th and after that the winner of Ballon D’or 2024 will be announce at October 28 and if we see based on the nominees player i think we all know Vinicius is in the first place of the list which very possible he will being an the winner of this award and indeed it might be controversial because Lautaro Martinez or Rodri probably is more deserved than him

If we talking about Ballon D’or winner lists i have to says Laliga players were dominate this award and since 2009 until 2022 the winner of this award is came from the players from Laliga teams which usually from Barcelona or Real Madrid even on 2023 this award goes to Lionel Messi which he is the former player of Barcelona and about Serie A players indeed last time who win Ballon D’or is AC Milan player Ricardo Kaka on 2007 and since that Serie A players were never able to gets the trophy from this award

[mammusu]

It doesn't seem so, Martinez is currently at 8th rank, the chance is completely low. I think it's either rank 1-5, Yamal quite deserved because he bring Spain to win EURO, but overall performance Rodri should become the winner.

Odds shock me. How do Yamal and Willams can be given better odds than Martinez?

They had past good season with their clubs and won Euro 2024 with their national team Spain with good personal contributions for the team and that trophy too. Even their performances and contributions are good, it's not enough to compare with Martinez's performances and it's not fair and correct to say Yamal or Williams played better than Lautaro Martinez in the past season and in this summer at national team level.

This year Ballon d'Or has a majority of young players as candidates, so in my opinion this might make it difficult for correspondents to make their choice because each candidate has quite good achievements and accomplishments in the last 2 seasons, several criteria will be the focus of the player assessment such players as individual and collective performances (winners) throughout the year, player class (talent and fair play) and overall assessment of the player career.
Vinicius may be in the first rank of players who deserve to win the ballon'or after his success in helping Madrid win Champions League and also La Liga, but I personally see that Rodri and Martinez are two players who really deserve to win the Ballon d'or this year, Pedri has succeeded in helping Spain and Manchester City become champions, apart from that his performance has been very consistent with Manchester City and also Spain so far should be an added value for him in the correspondents assessment, as well as Martinez who has had a big role in helping Argentina and also Intermilan this season, we cannot differentiate the quality between one player and another but in terms of assessment of course every aspect and Also, contribution to the team and country will be an important factor in making the player worthy of winning the Ballon d'Or.

BTW, what about Messi current chances, do you think he still has a chance to win the Ballon d'Or the ninth?