Minimum age to purchase a guns 18 to 21

[Mr Reporter]

This morning was on me phone I came across this post on Xspace which says

https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1813389334957216191

@GavinNewsom we already have mandatory background checks in CA.  What are you talking about?  Gun laws hurt the law abiding citizen and do nothing for the criminal thugs. You think the thugs stand in line to purchase guns?  Have you ever been in a gun store?  I didn't think so.

But on a second thought how can this prevent criminal from obtaining firearms? I gust the government just made it easier for the non criminal to jump into purchasing of guns.

[LTU_btc]

I think you should fix typo in topic title, because before opening it, I though wtf you're talking about - ''Minimum age to purchase a guy''
I'm not feeling qualified enough to talk about gun regulations in USA. Not really sure that changing age would help significantly. I think that getting weapon shouldn't be so easy when even mentally ill person can get it without much hassle.
But when it comes to criminals, regulations don't help there, they always will find way how to get it, for example in black markets.

[Hispo]

I think you should fix typo in topic title, because before opening it, I though wtf you're talking about - ''Minimum age to purchase a guy''
I'm not feeling qualified enough to talk about gun regulations in USA. Not really sure that changing age would help significantly. I think that getting weapon shouldn't be so easy when even mentally ill person can get it without much hassle.
But when it comes to criminals, regulations don't help there, they always will find way how to get it, for example in black markets.

That is the major counter point the pro-gun people in the United States have used against those who wish to regulate the purchase and availability of guns even further and as someone who lives in a country which is quite corrupt and does not allow their citizens to wield guns, I must say that indeed the bad guys/criminals do not care about legals ways to get guns, they will get them anyways, while people who are law abiding and respect the government regulations will be left with no defense, since the government is corrupt as I mentioned. When the goverment is corrupt and the police does not do anything effective to protect the common people, it would be good for us to have a medium of self-defense.
In States which have a very low rate of criminality and the government does not show signs of blatant corruption, then it would be okey if access to guns is more restricted.

[BADecker]

There are a hundred ways for people to get guns in the US, without any checks whatsoever. If nothing else, a slamgun - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=slamgun. Make one. Or https://duckduckgo.com/?q=homemade+guns&ia=web.

If you have a few bucks, consider Defense Distributed - https://defdist.org/ - to make your own high quality gun at home.

If everybody becomes a gun maker, nobody will know where they come from (the guns).

We need more ammo makers and re-loaders, and suppliers.

[bitterguy28]

what i find really disturbing is how much gun stores there are in america

it is so accessible which is what i think is what's wrong and dangerous literally anyone can walk into a gun store and purchase one and they could just lie about what to do with the gun

[BADecker]

what i find really disturbing is how much gun stores there are in america

it is so accessible which is what i think is what's wrong and dangerous literally anyone can walk into a gun store and purchase one and they could just lie about what to do with the gun

That's why you need to get your guns, so you can scare off the bad guys... or shoot them if they won't scare. Get your buddies to work with you with their guns... but don't become the bad guy.

[discusstor]

If they want to buy, they will buy.

[Yucky]

what i find really disturbing is how much gun stores there are in america

it is so accessible which is what i think is what's wrong and dangerous literally anyone can walk into a gun store and purchase one and they could just lie about what to do with the gun

That's why you need to get your guns, so you can scare off the bad guys... or shoot them if they won't scare. Get your buddies to work with you with their guns... but don't become the bad guy.

that's really a crazy shit.
I've always held to total regulation of guns and I see no reason why people should be given free access to it and you you're talking of an 18 year allowed to own a gun?

In my country, if you ever allow the general public access to guns under whatever criteria you've put out thier, the number of killings on the street on a daily basis will be damn massive.

[BADecker]

what i find really disturbing is how much gun stores there are in america

it is so accessible which is what i think is what's wrong and dangerous literally anyone can walk into a gun store and purchase one and they could just lie about what to do with the gun

That's why you need to get your guns, so you can scare off the bad guys... or shoot them if they won't scare. Get your buddies to work with you with their guns... but don't become the bad guy.

that's really a crazy shit.
I've always held to total regulation of guns and I see no reason why people should be given free access to it and you you're talking of an 18 year allowed to own a gun?

In my country, if you ever allow the general public access to guns under whatever criteria you've put out thier, the number of killings on the street on a daily basis will be damn massive.

Exactly the point. Gun control doesn't mean no guns. It means guns in the hands of government people so that gov people can control others.

Do you really trust your government people? I mean, they are people like anybody else.And the leaders might want to make slaves of the people and order the gun holders to force the people.

I'd rather have my guns in my hand as protection against gov people. They send 18-y-o's to war with guns. Why not let them have them at home?

[Hispo]

what i find really disturbing is how much gun stores there are in america

it is so accessible which is what i think is what's wrong and dangerous literally anyone can walk into a gun store and purchase one and they could just lie about what to do with the gun

That's why you need to get your guns, so you can scare off the bad guys... or shoot them if they won't scare. Get your buddies to work with you with their guns... but don't become the bad guy.

that's really a crazy shit.
I've always held to total regulation of guns and I see no reason why people should be given free access to it and you you're talking of an 18 year allowed to own a gun?

In my country, if you ever allow the general public access to guns under whatever criteria you've put out thier, the number of killings on the street on a daily basis will be damn massive.

I mean, the argument of having guns in the hands of the common people is bad people will always have guns for them to continue their track of criminality, so if it is inevitable for black markets of weapons to exist, then it would be fair for the "good people" also to have their own handguns at home, at their work, even allowing teachers to have their own while giving classes.
That is not an imaginary scenario, by the way. There are already working on allowing teachers of certain states to be able to wield weapons while in the classroom, because of the school shooting incidents. It is expected for the teachers to take down an active shooter. In my opinion, it is not about having a lot of people having guns but rather a combination of taking care of people with mental illnesses, having a well trained police force, while as the same time the black market for guns get reduced.

[darkangel11]

I like guns and I think everybody should own them. That said, the change in age doesn't mean a thing. How many murderers and terrorists are at the age of 18 or 19, when compared to 21+? How many teenagers get caught with guns every year?

This article says that
In the years from 2015 to 2019, adolescents reported carrying a handgun at a rate 41 percent higher than in the period between 2002 and 2006, according to a study published this week in the journal Pediatrics. The findings are based on reports from more than 297,000 adolescents in the U.S. ages 12 to 17.
About 4.6 percent of teens carried handguns in the recent study period, the research found, up from 3.3 percent previously.

So, if teenagers don't care, what's raising the age limit going to do? You'll only have more people carrying without a permit.