Can solitaire be a game of chance?

[Poker Player]

However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players.

That must be why I have never liked solitaire or games like puzzles, because I am more of an extrovert.

However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think.

How do we think about what? I don't know, maybe I'm crazy but I don't usually waste a lot of time thinking about things that are not going to happen.

Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

They are not games of chance as such, although there is some chance in how the pieces of the puzzle look after undoing them or the cards after shuffling them.

[danherbias07]

There are too many card games that are available so I don't think they will add that one either in a tournament or a competition. I know what you are trying to point out but truthfully, that's an old-school game for old-school people like us. Just kidding. I loved playing that game too back when I was working in the office, boring times would come when there was no client to talk too, and thankfully, our supervisor let us play the games that were only available in the Windows default installation. But right now, working at home, I am not playing that game anymore and I don't think they will add it to gambling games. Like I said, there are just too many better games out there and even if they add it, some people could just get bored at playing it.

[Julien_Olynpic]

I must say that I think that puzzles in general and solitaire games in particular can be exciting...
 Regarding puzzles in general. You know, many years ago, such a puzzle as the “game of 15” was really gambling in its own way, because one entrepreneur offered a lot of money for solving it.
 Puzzles aren't really designed for two players by default, just one player. But in general, a casino can offer a certain coefficient for solving a puzzle for a while, the player makes a bet, and if he loses, his bet goes to the casino. Card puzzles actually develop intelligence in a way that roulette and dice rolling don't.
 As for solitaire games, they are very internally diverse. There are solitaire games with a lot of luck, like Klondike. And there are solitaire games in which all the cards in the layout are visible in advance. However, the Free Cell challenge that Windows offers has different levels of difficulty. The maximum level is “Expert”, and even higher is the random level, in which the solution to this game is not guaranteed. It is precisely these non-guaranteed levels of solitaire that can be gambling for money.

[lovesmayfamilis]

For me, solitaire brings my nervous system into calm and relaxation. The time to play solitaire is in the evening when you need to get ready for bed, and naturally, by definition, no violent emotions should arise. Hence, I don’t think that such a game can be gambling-passionate, on the contrary, it evokes completely different feelings that are absent in gambling.

[kotajikikox]

Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

No they are both driven by an individual’s skills and application of their knowledge to play. Any game that requires the player to be skillful is immediately not based on chance. However it can still be turned into a competition and people can bet on different players.

[ethereumhunter]

Solitaire is one of games of chance but if that is on the PC, that will only a games especially we play that games without using money. Some people having fun playing solitaire or freecell in their computer and not care with the time because my uncle always play those games. The level of the games is only for difficulty to playing the games and if you can't use high difficulty, you can use the lowest level so you have your chance to wins.

Spending our time to playing Solitaire is fun and makes curious how to finish the game. If he clever to search for how to wins, he can wins but if not, he will not wins. I missed that games since sometimes I played on those games and spend my time on that games.

[m2017]

Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

I believe that any game where there is a “competitive spirit” can be subsumed under the concept of “game of chance”. Also, betting on the outcome of events is a mandatory attribute of gambling. All this taken together allows me to assume that solitaire can be included in the gambling section.

The world is changing and even in sports (the Olympic Games) new directions are emerging. For example, eSports / cybersport. Why not expand the range of games in gambling?

[acroman08]

in some ways, yeah, I mean, in order to finish the game you need to get playable cards which I think need luck but if you are very unlucky you could end up with bad cards and make bad moves which could lead to you not being able to finish the game. I am curious how they'll make it into tournaments, will it be who can finish it the fastest wins or something else.

Again, this is just another dummy head that read the post upside down. Where did he say any thing about being LUCKY?

   
the OP never used the word "lucky" but he used the word "game of chance" by asking "Can solitaire be a game of chance?". believe it or not, you still need luck when it comes to solitaire despite it being a game of skill and relying on how you play your cards. anyway, that is the reason why I said what I said.

[dezoel]

Solitaire as a game for introverts? Hmm.., I don't really think so. I'm an introvert but why I don't feel something that is special about this game? Not only this but also to other card games. I just think they are hard to understand but I do like other puzzle games. Rubiks cube is my favourite among all. Solitaire is a famous game and I think there are also competitions that are built for it. If this game is included in the gambling sites, then this is the common place for it.

I think you can get lucky to solve some types of puzzles that aren't hard as a rubiks cube, so yes we can say that they can also be a game of chance. If you are playing for tournament purposes or there is a money at stake, I think you will take things seriously by studying the game and not just that you will depend on your luck.

[davis196]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

Yes, solitaire/FreeCell can be considered games of chance, but I really doubt that any casino would turn these games into gambling games.
These games are boring as hell. I've played them on my Windows PC several times and I get bored after 5 minutes. Maybe that's why no casino has accepted them as gambling games. I also don't know how the gambling element could be added to such game. For example, you bet 5 dollars, solve the game for a given time frame and win 10 dollars. If you fail to solve the game in that time frame, you lose your bet and your money goes to another player, who solved the game. Anyway, those games are still boring to me.

[Hirose UK]

This is game that is played quite lot by some people who don't really like crowds or group games that involve lots of people in every activity, you are right, games like this are usually liked by introverted people.
Game that requires patience, focus and calm to be able to complete it, there are many types of solitaire games and it can also be said to be game that works like puzzle.
I seen some people play solitaire games that sort the cards, it silly but lot of people like it, there no adrenaline and no fun at all in my opinion but it not like game of chance.
Intelligence and skill are really needed to complete it, if this were in gambling I'm not sure many people would like it, after all the dealer will only offer games where they can get an edge.

[Kelward]

Can puzzles even be games of chance?

Puzzle are never a game of chance, but rather a game of critical thinking whereby a person is given a clue to further  test his knowledge if he could be able to correctly answer it, most especially when it comes to Puzzle games where shapes, images or objects are given for one to identify which one matches the exact image or object given. But however, the only area where I think puzzle can be inculcated into gambling is if it's been added with timer, whereby an individual is given an object and asked to guess the name correctly within a stipulated time frame, and if the time elapses, he fails.

Puzzles can not be classified as games of chance because all clues have been shown to you, it only needs critical thinking to arrange them. Casinos can not have games like puzzles because there's no chance or luck in it, except they'll put time frame that the player have to beat and win, but I guess that they're not into that kind of timekeeping. Solitaire has elements of chance because of the unknown variables but like puzzles they're not luck based and casinos can not put them up as games for gamblers to play.

[Fortify]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

If you had played solitaire for just a short time you'd realize that it is only a game of chance. You will not be able to win every game, even if you played the perfectly, because of the way it has been designed. You can even type into google and see the statistics - only around 80% of games are winnable. I sure there are versions of solitaire out there which have been engineered to give the house an edge and thereby become viable casino games, however you will always be in a long term losing position if a gambling company is willing to offer a game to you - they do not do that out of kindness, it's because they see the potential to make money from it on every customer that plays.

[TheUltraElite]

You can develop the game to be such that it pitches two players against one another like a PvP mode and based on the number of seconds spent and the number of cards correctly put in the upper four suits, develop the winning system.

On the basis of that you could have a gambling game.

It is not a game of chance but it can always be nice to add some "spice" to it by adding gambling elements.

[bitbollo]

Are there really special skills to solve the solitaire game?
personally I have some doubts about this point, at least for the classic versions we have seen/we know kowadays.
I don't know how much "fun" it really is to bet on a game like this... but it wouldn't surprise me to see variations on the games known today before these games will be launched in a casino.

[panjul07]

Are there really special skills to solve the solitaire game?
personally I have some doubts about this point, at least for the classic versions we have seen/we know kowadays.
I don't know how much "fun" it really is to bet on a game like this... but it wouldn't surprise me to see variations on the games known today before these games will be launched in a casino.

Since solitaire is combination between skill and luck, of course there are some skills needed in order to solve a single game.
I'm not a fan of solitaire though but I believe no one will be able to solve solitaire game without skills.
You can try to search on google or ask chatgpt lol and you will find what skils are needed to play solitaire.
Coming up to the main question, I dont think it can be a game of chance since it is skill based game than just game of chance.
I do not even think that there will be casino will have solitaire game to be played as I think it will be complicated to count the payout of the game.

[sunsilk]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

It's possible to happen.

As long as there is a group or a community that is composed of the same people that have interest of playing the game. I'm not sure about the game itself but maybe developing it with some kind of twist that will also be liked by the community.

But if it's about competitions, there is always a possibility as long as the people come altogether to build and start it such tournaments.

[Peanutswar]

Solitaire is a form of card game there's a designated number of cards and this could be played with a strategy game and just beat with a timer but of course seems I've seen few casino offering this game but unlike other like slots people less prefer this game so they didn't promote too much in this game. Also, its a one-player game so all you need is to finish the game before the timer runs out so not quite interesting this could be a casual game only to play not for gamble.

[aioc]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. ...How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

I consider it a game of chance; I play solitaire using cards. I've been doing this since I learned how to use a computer, and during our free time in school and at work later, we bet on solitaires. Yes, there are strategies, but it's still a game of chance, and since we usually do this using a timer, the fastest wins a pot of cash, so you have to be quick-thinking, and you can do that if you are a long-time solitaire player.

[YOSHIE]

Can solitaire be a game of chance?
 Yes
 No

I have studied the game of Solitaire, but at the moment I can't show a good level in card games, let alone the hard level, for the easy level which is the easiest I can't make good cards for all four, Even though the Solitaire game was popular in its time around the 90s, many of my friends wanted to try the game.

 In theory the Solitaire game is easy, but in practice it looks difficult, even though the game is built into Windows, it looks easy but is difficult to play, filling in the four Goals columns in sequence is not easy as discussed, I tried repeatedly, but the results still didn't match my expectations, it's clear to me that Solitaire is a game of chance, if you're lucky you can finish four cards in a row, if not, you're definitely not lucky.