World is about collapse If fed don't lower rates

[Waldorf77]

This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.
However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.

As far as I know the Federal Reserve plays an important role in monetary stability through its interest rate policies and price cuts can help stimulate economic activity by easing credit, but they need to be balanced to avoid inflation. In times of economic stress, such as an impending recession, the Fed may be forced to cut money to prevent a recession for this example is money market repo operations are needed to provide short-term liquidity to banks. If these activities are in short supply this may be an indication of a broader financial crisis, and a threat to economic stability. For sure, in such scenarios, on account of the path-breaking attributes of traditional banking systems, conventional currencies and cryptocurrencies are increasingly considered substitutes. These digital assets do offer some haven for keeping finances safe but entail risks and a unique set of legal problems. That fine line is what central banks have to walk between an ability to maintain stability in monetary systems and new monetary policy interest during uncertain times.

Markets are depleted now

[Iranus]

We haven't even started the economic crash yet it's just the warm up.

People don't get it how the banks and money system works and how the finances works and what's holding all the globe together.
I see a lot here even older members try talk like they know i see they got no ideas of anything.
Or they know but they try act like they don't know

It cannot be denied that none of us are economic experts, what we say here is only based on our understanding of the economy. The knowledge we gain comes from many different sources as well as from each person's own experience, so mistakes are inevitable.
But what about you, what knowledge do you have and what do you know about the operation of this world economy? I have checked some of your comments and I don't see you providing us with anything useful from your knowledge and insights.

More practically, does what you say on this subject happen as you said?

[Baki202]

It cannot be denied that none of us are economic experts, what we say here is only based on our understanding of the economy. The knowledge we gain comes from many different sources as well as from each person's own experience, so mistakes are inevitable.
But what about you, what knowledge do you have and what do you know about the operation of this world economy? I have checked some of your comments and I don't see you providing us with anything useful from your knowledge and insights.

More practically, does what you say on this subject happen as you said?

You don't even need to be an economist to be able to examine what is currently happening in the economy of every nation the challenge have gotten. Everyone will be able to describe the conditions of their own countries economy. And from the experiences we have been having of late is not really helping and have turned everyone into an analyst because no matter who you are you will be able to read meaning to what is currently go on in the economy of the country and most of this economy crash is all caused by how politicians they are not implementing the right policies and poor monitoring system they don't bother checking what they are spending money on the government can not longer own companies to be in competition with the private sector and because of the low competition, the moment their is. It competition in the market then their is going to be a problem in the economy because the company in production without competition will only inflate the price of its product and things will end up getting out of hands.

The issue of economy is usually very large and it depends on what angle you are looking at it, and different country with different economical conditions. And how you see it will determine how you explain. It and the factors behind the economic downfall so understanding and interpretation matters a lot.  And if you see and you understand the only solution that will be provided will be for your own interest, because you are not the government to bring general solutions.

[philipma1957]

We haven't even started the economic crash yet it's just the warm up.

People don't get it how the banks and money system works and how the finances works and what's holding all the globe together.
I see a lot here even older members try talk like they know i see they got no ideas of anything.
Or they know but they try act like they don't know

It cannot be denied that none of us are economic experts, what we say here is only based on our understanding of the economy. The knowledge we gain comes from many different sources as well as from each person's own experience, so mistakes are inevitable.
But what about you, what knowledge do you have and what do you know about the operation of this world economy? I have checked some of your comments and I don't see you providing us with anything useful from your knowledge and insights.

More practically, does what you say on this subject happen as you said?

My wife and I have accounting and economics degrees and have practical experiences with economical work. I won't deny our economical skills.

I could explain why the Fed crashes the economy every 8-15 years. They are almost there with this crash.

Fast explanation is wealth transfer is needed for the system to work.


Shift rates up and down shifts the wealth around.

Study long term care companies like Genworth  and John Hancock.

They hold over 1 trillion in fed bonds these are from fees of customers.

These companies along with 4-6 others have close to 6 trillion in holdings.

They can not survive at 1 or 2 percent rates.

They had poor credit ratings in 2021 they have greatly improved ratings now that rates are over 5%.

Wealth was deliberately shifted to them because USA can not let them fail due to m all the Fed bonds they hold.
but that wealth can't keep going to that industry because it hurts banks and real estate.

They will likely do a cut in Sept and stay fast after that.

They did not get a full crash last Monday.  Once the they do cut then flat the markets will crash again in october.

[stompix]

Just checking, has the world collapsed or not cause it's been already 10 days !? 

[jaberwock]

As far as I know the Federal Reserve plays an important role in monetary stability through its interest rate policies and price cuts can help stimulate economic activity by easing credit, but they need to be balanced to avoid inflation.

Yeah and who says they aren't important? Well, I guess they may be the uneducated and the people who knows nothing about financial matters and the economics. Inflation can't be prevented and this is why there is hardly a balance that we can experienced but most of the times, the rates are only going at the upward direction.

As far as I know the Federal Reserve plays an important role in monetary stability through its interest rate policies and price cuts can help stimulate economic activity by easing credit,

That's interesting to know for those who are starters in these fields. At first, we only thought that it was the local government or the local banks are only the ones or twos that can influence the value of our money but the Federal Reserve does it too, and that is like you said ; by them cutting or increasing the interest rates. No matter what are their actions, each must stimulate the economy.

[pooya87]

This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.

Let this be a good experience and lesson for you that your so called "top people" are idiots so you need to start rethinking who you follow to get your information from (unless you were trolling us yourself!).

As I've explained many times in this board and told you here as well more than 10 days ago, if a catastrophic collapse is to take place, that is not going to be something that can be predicted like this. They'll not tell you either if a handful of people knew.

There is an economic crisis that nobody can deny and worse days are coming as things have gotten worse over the past 3 years constantly. But the catastrophe date and its nature can not be predicted unless you have a time machine. It can be from repetition of 2008 collapse all the way to dissolution of coalitions like EU, US, NATO, etc. similar to what happened to USSR.

And most importantly like always this highlights the paramount importance of dedollarisation. Any country that decouples more will be affected less in the upcoming "catastrophe".

[WillyAp]

now in September and the US is still far away from collapsing.
Cool it, most of the economic data you display is unfounded without any other sources than well informed people, and that without naming them.

[philipma1957]

I am sick and tired of all these "world will end!! rapture is near!!" type of people. Yes world is going worse, yes I believe in climate change which means that in the future world will be inhabitable and all humans will die and we are too late to "fix" it by normal measures, so we literally need to invent something that can reverse all of this one day, or we are all doomed.

Yes I believe that world war three will happen eventually, maybe in our life time, maybe sometime later, who knows when but I do believe that over a dozen nations will attack each other. What I do not really believe in is the fact that we are talking about economics being such a small part of it. Like fed rates not lowering will END the world? Come on man, there are so many existential problems in the world, I really doubt that this is one of them, we are not going to end up with anything crazy just because fed rates are not lower, we will be fine, nothing will change all that much.

Well believing in world war three in your lifetime means you will see a billion or more people get killed off.

I rather believe the op’s thought we all crash out on August 9th of 2024 as rates did not drop.

Well the crash did not happen so I guess that may mean we crash in Sept when USA 🇺🇸 trick fucks everyone and raises rates by 0.50 .  Now that would be some fun to see.

[YOSHIE]

However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.

Your way of thinking is too high, you don't think about the negative effects that could happen to stablecoins or crypto, don't think that interest rates can destroy everything in this world, US money and the US market are not the main factors that can control the destruction of the world economy.

The US can bully all countries with the currency they have, the Fed is nothing if all countries don't want to receive anything from the central bank owned by the United States, they dare to come in and bluff because they like to borrow from other countries at high interest rates, the most dangerous ghost currently regarding the economy, namely the US, is the impact of what the US itself is doing on that basis America’s reckless borrowing is a danger to its economy—and the world’s., there is no need to cut interest rates, they must correct themselves for their reckless behavior.

[Fortify]

This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.
However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.

Yeah because you know what the "inside people" are thinking and they are sharing their strategies with you, a person that can barely string a coherent sentence together. Stop reading so many conspiracy theories and realize you are just bobbing around on an ocean like the rest of us. Even the so-called experts in central banks don't want to admit that they cannot predict the future. They can come to obvious conclusions like high interest rates are stifling but they could have raised them much earlier rather than leaving them at the floor for a decade. We won't know what the effects of lowering them and how fast, until ten years time when we are looking back in hindsight.

[Oluwa-btc]

This is come from. Economics very top people inside info
We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.
The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.
However that's why smartest people have stablecoins and cryptocurrency Because crypto is like last rock where you can stand on in middle of the big ocean.

Is this a joke or something like the world coming to an end or what,? I know that there have been alot of economic crisis in different nations of the world but talking about if the feds don't lower the rates there would be a collapse of the world and you said from 5 to 10days time and looking back at your thread now I just observe some tiny errors and which is why your post isn't passing the right information it should have passed.

And from where did you get such information from, I think we gonna take track of your said date which is 10days from now and see if your information could be through in any way, and the feds not being able to lower rates won't amount to a fallor collapse of the world like you said, this is hilarious as I may sink deep into it and I take it in good fate that we'll definitely see to the end of this.
Like I don't get it how you lay your points, talking about collapse of the world, fall of bsnks  and now cryptocurrency to stand as bedrock of all this.. I think there should be valid information and documentation in this regards so we stay more informed.

[icalical]

As other people replying this thread, I also don't really believe this information is provided by any high-ranking economic insider. Indeed, there is some concern about high interest rates and their impact on the banking sector, but saying that all will collapse in 5 to 10 days without immediate rate cuts is just an exaggeration. In fact, the Fed contemplates gradual rate cuts that may begin later this year, but nothing has been announced in terms of emergency actions. Banks are under pressure, but the system isn't at that tipping point described.

They can be an alternative in the form of stablecoin or crypto, but this is not a sort of "last rock" which will definitely guarantee stability. They come with their own volatility and risks, meaning diversification is to be main and financial planning quite cautious. Decisions made out of panic might not be among the smartest.

[DeathAngel]

CPI report coming in 3.5 hours, it should give us some idea as to how bad it is & what the Fed will do next week. If it’s bad today expect a 50bps cut next week, if it’s as expected it’ll be 25bps cut next week. Regardless though, rate cutting cycle starts next week, prepare accordingly.

[Fiatless]

CPI report coming in 3.5 hours, it should give us some idea as to how bad it is & what the Fed will do next week. If it’s bad today expect a 50bps cut next week, if it’s as expected it’ll be 25bps cut next week. Regardless though, rate cutting cycle starts next week, prepare accordingly.

Findings by the CME Group FedWatch tool showed that anticipation that the FED will cut interest rates in September by 50 basis dropped 30% from nearly 50% earlier in the month. This might be connected to the unemployment rate that reduced from 4.2% to 4.3% in July. If the economy produced fewer jobs and inflation reduced, we might see a sizeable cut in the interest rate.

https://www.fxstreet.com/news/us-cpi-data-set-to-show-inflation-declining-further-towards-2-target-in-august-202409110443

[el kaka22]

No, it won't. While I should decrease the rates because it is not really looking like they need it anymore and lower rates should be enough now, because inflation is going down so there is no need to keep it up, I also think that even if they don't, it is not going to be end of the world.

Biggest issue is that some banks fail to pay the high interest rate because they fail to find a way to make money from it, bonds do not pay this well, and not all their money is on loan, so they fail to pay and make that much profit to pay and that is why they bankrupt, enough of these banks like that and it is a chain reaction that causes a lot of banks to collapse and that's the "world collapses" situation.

However, the rates are not that high enough to make that happen just for now, I understand that some may think that it is that high, but it is not and it doesn't happen overnight neither, we are going to see this situation growing further and we will be making more changes without a doubt, and it will lower eventually.

[Wakate]

This is come from. Economics very top people inside info

Who are they and where is the link to the source on this?

We have Maximum of 5-10 days If we don't lower rates everything Will fall.

Are you part of those that have made this discussion and are ready to put effect on its implementation, because over many years now, we have been hearing a lot of warnings and signals about this and that, yet nothing has happened and the world has not ended.

The USA fed money market repo operation funding daily the world but it's empty now.
In order to fill it up fed needs cut rates otherwise we fall down Banks wount work and many issues.

This is not possible, they know how to maneuver their way through, this is not the first time the interest rate is rising or falling.

Op is trying to give his own opinion about the high interest rate which is making everything looks like the world is going to end. Nothing is going to collapse even though the interest rate is rised more that. I know the fed knows how to adjust tungs in a way that the price of goods is not going to be too extremely high. This interest rate of a thing is happening in almost all European countries and people are still trying to cope with it without the collapse of the economy. Things that are worse than this has happened in the past and nothing happened like that. There are so many factors that has influenced the price of goods as a result of inflation.

[STT]

Perception of rates moving is doing as much as the actual rate move itself.   Hence why the Federal reserve is so determined to be consistent and transparent nowadays.  Genuine shock and upset at the direction or strength of the market for various debt instruments, liquidity of those markets would cause the crash in many prices, roughly speaking forex and debt rate far more highly then equity so the amount of upset possible is considerable.  

The larger problem of whether the world should really be revolving around made up debt prices instead of real productivity is too hard to dicipher especially and everyone is too scared to argue with the current system I think.