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July 28, 2024, 08:13:54 PM
Last edit: July 29, 2024, 04:18:25 PM by justincase78
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Hi BitcoinTalk.

I'm an avid gambler and a frequent BitcoinTalk lurker. I've been crypto gambling since 2018 and I'm a seasoned degen vet. My first withdrawal attempt was on the 22nd when they locked my account and forced me to submit Basic +Advanced KYC to remove the withdrawal restriction. Which was submitted same day they asked, yet I have heard basically absolutely nothing.

Also please note every single dollar was won on either Crash or Dice, both BC Game Originals. We are not waiting on slot providers doing reviews here, this is something they could sit and look at for a few fuckin hours and realize it was fair bets.
My bets on Dice were 50/50 odds for 95% of the bets, and on Crash I never took less than a 2x. So to answer any conspiracies, no this money was not won because of attempting to exploit a wagering bonus system to capitalize on rewards or anything like that.
I'm known on Bustabit too for winning over $2.5-3mil over there over the past few years.

I flipped 30 ETH to 1225 after losing about $700k in deposits. So I'm net about $3.3mil here.

Over the past week I've been asking for updates on my case literally every single day sometimes multiple times a day and I'm either told to basically fuck off on livechat or msg my VIP host (who hasn't been on shift the past 3 days) for an update. I have received no REAL update as to their "investigation' at all.

And P.S BCGame: After we HOPEFULLY resolve everything (I am fully expecting to have to hire lawyers in Curacao to fight for this money at this point.) you should find a way to conduct your investigations without disabling a users withdrawals and making them feel like they did something wrong. Maybe a shadowban of some sort. Because I'm literally being treated like I am in the fucking Cartel and using drug money to win. At least that's how it feels.

Double P.S: You are becoming a very mainstream crypto gambling casino. You are not going to surpass those like Bustabit & Stake ETC if you treat your highrollers like this though. Withdrawals should be processed within 72 hours MAXIMUM if they're over a million dollars especially if it's on a fucking original gamemode you guys created that you can audit yourself very easily. I have SEVERAL friends that have made $3m+ withdrawals on Stake without needing any of this bullshit. And I myself can prove I withdrew $1.2m on Stake and then another $1m a few days later without ever even being asked for KYC!! Not only was I not asked for KYC... the withdrawals were processed within the fucking hour lmao!!! After never having made a 7figure withdrawal on their site before!!


I have screen recorded EVERY single aspect of my account NUMEROUS times including attached email/phone number/logged in devices/login history/have a 10min video of me going through every single fucking bet placed and all the withdrawals/deposits incase they decide to delete my account or say I did something wrong. I have screen recorded every single livechat I've done on their website and every single message with my VIP host too. I won't make these videos public unless I need to, but I'm really fucking hoping I won't even have to do that because that would be kinda insane lol.

Here's the context from my casinoguru scam report that will publicize on their website within a week if not resolved:

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 My main issue is the basically ZERO communication as to what's going on. When you have millions of dollars at the casinos disposal and you KNOW you 100% did FAIR GAMING it feels like shit being treated like you did something wrong.





I was frequently gambling on BCGame. I had lost around 200 eth accumulatively before depositing another 30 ETH that I was able to turn to 1050 ETH via long grinding hours of Crash and Dice. At times I was up to $2mil, busting down to $800k-$900k (being down a MILLION dollars from ATH) having to grind back up. This was a super stressful session that by luck played off. 95% of my bets on dice were 50/50 odds using my own intuition of when to double, etc. Literally just flatbetting and then doubling or tripling on a large loss streak banking on the probability of the 50/50 odds evening out instead of martingaling and doubling each bet for a wipeout. And sometimes switching from roll over to roll under or vice versa if I felt like I was winning too much on one side. I originally turned this to about 580 ETH and attempted a withdrawal. They rejected the withdrawal, refunded to my balance, completely turned off my withdrawal/tipping perms, and stated via livechat I need to submit Basic and Advanced KYC. I submitted both of these documents which were verified within the same hour, and now I have been going back and fourth with their livechat/VIP host every 4-6 hours while they proxy me messages from their "core team". I have received basically no communication at all and it's literally disgusting me. And then the only communication I get from the core team is accusing me of doing something wrong, which I literally knew would happen. Winning a big amount like this the Casino will do everything in their power to try and find one tiny issue as to why they shouldn't give you your winnings. I will attach a video of all of my livechat and VIP host conversations. It is incredibly worrying and stressful knowing this much money is at the hands of people who don't want to pay what's rightfully mine.

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NOTE: The current balance (and it will stay this balance..) is exactly 1225 ETH.




Any help getting a BCGame Exec's attention on this would be greatly appreciated. I tried msging an Admin on Telegram and he told me "cant help contact livechat" and went ghost lol. That's as far as I've gotten.


I'm also aware there is a giant chance the Casino is doing this wait to see if I lose all of the money. Considering it was won on ORIGINALS they can QUICKLY AUDIT and do not need a week to audit. And if anything shouldn't they prioritize the absolute shit out of getting a highroller back on track?HuhHuhHuhHuh?? That's where most of their money comes from..






EDIT!! PROOF OF (ATTEMPTED) COORDINATION WITH SUPPORT AND EVERY SINGLE BET PLACED HERE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1uPgQyCT_U












EDIT 2: HERE IS THE RETARDED SHIT THEY MESSAGED ME TODAY:

"According to the Terms of Service:
2.1.13. You accept and acknowledge that we reserve the right to detect and prevent the use of prohibited techniques, including but not limited to fraudulent transaction detection, automated registration and signup, gameplay and screen capture techniques. These steps may include, but are not limited to, examination of Players device properties, detection of geo-location and IP masking, transactions and blockchain analysis;

All players must comply, and once a bet is placed, it signifies agreement to the terms.

Regarding the issue with your account, I've negotiated for you and we can refund your first deposit amount."



My response is:

1. I'm not leaving without my $4mil because I rightfully won it without violating any of your ToS that I went over numerous times you weirdos.
2. I never played in a restricted region, i am a Canadian citizen that was playing while visiting Norway which are both unrestricted regions on your website.
3. I never automated anything or made "fraudulent transactions" or any of the shit you thieves are saying I did.
4. The fact that you are even offering to reimburse me my "first deposit" leaving me with $600k in lost deposits (I hadn't made a SINGLE withdrawal on this account until now) after I won $4mil without breaking a single rule is absolutely fucking hilarous to begin with.

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July 28, 2024, 08:32:55 PM
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apart from this thread, there are several KYC-related complaint threads created against BC.game. the complaints were very similar to each other, the gambler tried to withdraw and was asked to perform KYC and then they either don't get an update on their KYC status or their KYC was denied. I don't know what is going on with their management but they seem to not respond to new cases posted here in the forum.

Would you mind sharing a screenshot to back up your claim?

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July 28, 2024, 08:37:56 PM
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There's not really any way for me to "back up my claim" with something that can't be inspect elemented unless I record a video showing it on mobile or something. I tried uploading an image of my balance and it says "Embedding imgur links is not supported in new posts"

Regardless it isn't a claim, it's something I'm sure they will publicly acknowledge if this thread gets eonugh attention, that they have a customer with a balance of 1225 ETH in their BC Vault with withdrawal permissions disabled for a week. Me lying serves 0 purpose my friend.

I am worried about showing too much account information within a screenshot because I want there to be absolutely zero chance anything bad happens.

Thanks for your reply.
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July 28, 2024, 08:46:10 PM
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Any help getting a BCGame Exec's attention on this would be greatly appreciated. I tried msging an Admin on Telegram and he told me "cant help contact livechat" and went ghost lol. That's as far as I've gotten.

Maybe you can try contacting their support in this forum . BC.game support , and you can also invite . @holydarkness has been very helpful in trying to make sure that users with gambling complaints get a fair judgement and also making sure the right people are invited to the case.
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July 28, 2024, 08:46:23 PM
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This issue with KYC after winning is becoming very disturbing and, at this same time, discouraging. Why can't these conditions be spelt out ab initio so gamblers will know what they are up against. Well, this is one side of the story and I hope an agent responds to this to clear the air because it is possible it could be a communication issue; a situation where they needed more time to complete their audit but did not communicate adequately. However, if this is not the case, it will really be very big cause of concern for highrollwers.

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July 28, 2024, 08:46:27 PM
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There's not really any way for me to "back up my claim" with something that can't be inspect elemented unless I record a video showing it on mobile or something. I tried uploading an image of my balance and it says "Embedding imgur links is not supported in new posts"
Use https://talkimg.com/ to upload images.
there is some problem, so services like Imgur or imgbb do not allow images to be displayed on the Bitcointalk forum. Even if images are not shown because you are a newbie, someone will already quote your posts and they will be visible to everyone.

About your case, you have to present as clear evidence as possible about your claims. Also, have you possibly violated their TOS in any way?

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July 28, 2024, 09:06:32 PM
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Hi, thanks for your reply. The reason I'm against uploading a lot of images to back up my claim is because:


1. This is between me and the Casino, specifically me getting my rightfully won money from the casino. Backing myself up with proof to get users on my side is not what's needed here. What's needed from within this thread is for the casino to draw attention to me and prioritize my case because It's a significant stomach aching amount of money that leaves me not knowing what's next. The proof is from within my account that the Casino can view.



2. I absolutely did not break ANY rule as stated in my thread. I played dice/crash with 50/50 odds, did not "exploit" anything, did not gamble in banned region, or anything like that. I literally just played with an intuitive strategy but obviously it's luck more than anything.


3. The proof I show would just be the support agents telling me every day the casino needs more time to investigate, which a lot of users on here would just tell me is fair. But my entire argument is that it was won on their own original gamemodes based on seeds that they can very easily audit. there is no need to wait a week for any external answers because we are not relying on a game provider replying because of a max win or anything like that. I suspect the casino is just pushing to keep the money in here as long as possible hoping I lose it.


I do not mean to come off as an asshole, I simply mean to state my thought process. I genuinely just think logistically here whether I send some images or not it wouldn't matter. But here.



Regardless of this all!! I recorded a 5min video showing EVERY SINGLE BET i have placed and my coordination with support. It can be found here, HD resolution will be processed within 25min it says. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1uPgQyCT_U

Thanks for your reply.
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July 28, 2024, 09:15:31 PM
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I'd like to state i've updated my title too as "without communication" can be misleading. Technically there has been communication it's just been absolutely horrible in my experience compared to other casinos. I genuinely wouldn't even consider it communication but I get how it goes after reading some threads so I've updated the title. Thanks everyone.
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July 29, 2024, 04:07:07 AM
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apart from this thread, there are several KYC-related complaint threads created against BC.game. the complaints were very similar to each other, the gambler tried to withdraw and was asked to perform KYC and then they either don't get an update on their KYC status or their KYC was denied. I don't know what is going on with their management but they seem to not respond to new cases posted here in the forum.
I'm not aware if there have been many case against Bc.game and it's not yet resolved, will they end up like Freebitco.in? the situation is quite similar, many complaints in both of this forum and Twitter.

This is really serious, sooner or later they might receive negative tag, start to lose reputation and some people will become jobless.


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July 29, 2024, 09:55:08 AM
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OP, the request of evidence by several users is not to "take your side", it's just how this board operates. This section of the forum runs on evidence. One can easily claimed a casino stole 1 billion USD from them, but without proof, we can't take the statement at face value.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but I don't have time to watch your video. Well, I can make time if I have to, but I prefer to have them on images where I can review them within seconds instead of 5 minutes. So perhaps you can provide us here some key evidence, a few snap from those five minutes to help us understand things better and if we need to know more, we can try to find them ourselves on your video?

If you can provide some snapshot to justify your claim, I'll try to reach some people on BC and see if we can get this resolved.

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July 29, 2024, 03:13:15 PM
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OP, the request of evidence by several users is not to "take your side", it's just how this board operates. This section of the forum runs on evidence. One can easily claimed a casino stole 1 billion USD from them, but without proof, we can't take the statement at face value.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but I don't have time to watch your video. Well, I can make time if I have to, but I prefer to have them on images where I can review them within seconds instead of 5 minutes. So perhaps you can provide us here some key evidence, a few snap from those five minutes to help us understand things better and if we need to know more, we can try to find them ourselves on your video?

If you can provide some snapshot to justify your claim, I'll try to reach some people on BC and see if we can get this resolved.

You would rather not spend 2.5 minutes on a video (watching at 2x speed) getting literally all the context you could need to save you from having to spend more time getting more screenshots from me if you end up having more questions? "Justify your claims" yeah there's an entire video justifying every aspect of my claim.
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OP, the request of evidence by several users is not to "take your side", it's just how this board operates. This section of the forum runs on evidence. One can easily claimed a casino stole 1 billion USD from them, but without proof, we can't take the statement at face value.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but I don't have time to watch your video. Well, I can make time if I have to, but I prefer to have them on images where I can review them within seconds instead of 5 minutes. So perhaps you can provide us here some key evidence, a few snap from those five minutes to help us understand things better and if we need to know more, we can try to find them ourselves on your video?

If you can provide some snapshot to justify your claim, I'll try to reach some people on BC and see if we can get this resolved.


Here is the disgusting shit they updated me with today:

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According to the Terms of Service:
2.1.13. You accept and acknowledge that we reserve the right to detect and prevent the use of prohibited techniques, including but not limited to fraudulent transaction detection, automated registration and signup, gameplay and screen capture techniques. These steps may include, but are not limited to, examination of Players device properties, detection of geo-location and IP masking, transactions and blockchain analysis;

All players must comply, and once a bet is placed, it signifies agreement to the terms.

Regarding the issue with your account, I've negotiated for you and we can refund your first deposit amount.







I didn't violate any of these rules. I am from Canada and played while on Norway in vacation. Every single login to my account is from a Norway IP address. Both countries allow online gambling and don't pop up the restricted region message on BCGame. My KYC submitted was ALL Canadian documents. This is a clear attempt on their part to scam like they do to every big winner. Literally disgusting, I knew this is what was cooking up.



I didn't automate anything, I don't have fraudulent transactions, I haven't gambled from a restricted region, wtf are they talking about?? LOL



They also want to only refund the FIRST DEPOSIT of like 200k when i have over $800K in LOST DEPOSITS? LOL. I am not leaving here without my $4mil because I know there's no real ToS violation from me.





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July 29, 2024, 03:53:11 PM
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OP, the request of evidence by several users is not to "take your side", it's just how this board operates. This section of the forum runs on evidence. One can easily claimed a casino stole 1 billion USD from them, but without proof, we can't take the statement at face value.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but I don't have time to watch your video. Well, I can make time if I have to, but I prefer to have them on images where I can review them within seconds instead of 5 minutes. So perhaps you can provide us here some key evidence, a few snap from those five minutes to help us understand things better and if we need to know more, we can try to find them ourselves on your video?

If you can provide some snapshot to justify your claim, I'll try to reach some people on BC and see if we can get this resolved.

You would rather not spend 2.5 minutes on a video (watching at 2x speed) getting literally all the context you could need to save you from having to spend more time getting more screenshots from me if you end up having more questions? "Justify your claims" yeah there's an entire video justifying every aspect of my claim.

That is not 2.5 minutes, or five. Watching the video to understand more context will take way longer than that to play, pause, read, rewind a little if the frame skipped too far, play, pause, and so on. And in case you wondered, yes, I've try to watch until 00:42, before I close the window because it's too much for my plate right now. So yes, I'll apprecite some screenshots if you can.

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July 29, 2024, 03:59:14 PM
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OP, the request of evidence by several users is not to "take your side", it's just how this board operates. This section of the forum runs on evidence. One can easily claimed a casino stole 1 billion USD from them, but without proof, we can't take the statement at face value.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but I don't have time to watch your video. Well, I can make time if I have to, but I prefer to have them on images where I can review them within seconds instead of 5 minutes. So perhaps you can provide us here some key evidence, a few snap from those five minutes to help us understand things better and if we need to know more, we can try to find them ourselves on your video?

If you can provide some snapshot to justify your claim, I'll try to reach some people on BC and see if we can get this resolved.

You would rather not spend 2.5 minutes on a video (watching at 2x speed) getting literally all the context you could need to save you from having to spend more time getting more screenshots from me if you end up having more questions? "Justify your claims" yeah there's an entire video justifying every aspect of my claim.

That is not 2.5 minutes, or five. Watching the video to understand more context will take way longer than that to play, pause, read, rewind a little if the frame skipped too far, play, pause, and so on. And in case you wondered, yes, I've try to watch until 00:42, before I close the window because it's too much for my plate right now. So yes, I'll apprecite some screenshots if you can.



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July 29, 2024, 07:37:03 PM
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Unfortunately BC.game is one casino that is not going to pay out $4m even though it looks like your play is honest. No one should keep large balances at BC.game. I do wish you luck in case they are somehow forced to pay by a court.

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July 29, 2024, 08:16:31 PM
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Unfortunately BC.game is one casino that is not going to pay out $4m even though it looks like your play is honest. No one should keep large balances at BC.game. I do wish you luck in case they are somehow forced to pay by a court.


If they don't pay it I guarantee the case will go as unsolved on AskGamblers & CasinoGuru because they have no case, so their reputation going in the hole even more is good enough for me at the end of the day, but I most definitely will proceed with lawyers in Curacao just to be petty if they don't payout.
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July 29, 2024, 08:45:51 PM
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OP, the request of evidence by several users is not to "take your side", it's just how this board operates. This section of the forum runs on evidence. One can easily claimed a casino stole 1 billion USD from them, but without proof, we can't take the statement at face value.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but I don't have time to watch your video. Well, I can make time if I have to, but I prefer to have them on images where I can review them within seconds instead of 5 minutes. So perhaps you can provide us here some key evidence, a few snap from those five minutes to help us understand things better and if we need to know more, we can try to find them ourselves on your video?

If you can provide some snapshot to justify your claim, I'll try to reach some people on BC and see if we can get this resolved.

You would rather not spend 2.5 minutes on a video (watching at 2x speed) getting literally all the context you could need to save you from having to spend more time getting more screenshots from me if you end up having more questions? "Justify your claims" yeah there's an entire video justifying every aspect of my claim.

That is not 2.5 minutes, or five. Watching the video to understand more context will take way longer than that to play, pause, read, rewind a little if the frame skipped too far, play, pause, and so on. And in case you wondered, yes, I've try to watch until 00:42, before I close the window because it's too much for my plate right now. So yes, I'll apprecite some screenshots if you can.










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July 29, 2024, 08:57:04 PM
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OP, the request of evidence by several users is not to "take your side", it's just how this board operates. This section of the forum runs on evidence. One can easily claimed a casino stole 1 billion USD from them, but without proof, we can't take the statement at face value.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but I don't have time to watch your video. Well, I can make time if I have to, but I prefer to have them on images where I can review them within seconds instead of 5 minutes. So perhaps you can provide us here some key evidence, a few snap from those five minutes to help us understand things better and if we need to know more, we can try to find them ourselves on your video?

If you can provide some snapshot to justify your claim, I'll try to reach some people on BC and see if we can get this resolved.

You would rather not spend 2.5 minutes on a video (watching at 2x speed) getting literally all the context you could need to save you from having to spend more time getting more screenshots from me if you end up having more questions? "Justify your claims" yeah there's an entire video justifying every aspect of my claim.

That is not 2.5 minutes, or five. Watching the video to understand more context will take way longer than that to play, pause, read, rewind a little if the frame skipped too far, play, pause, and so on. And in case you wondered, yes, I've try to watch until 00:42, before I close the window because it's too much for my plate right now. So yes, I'll apprecite some screenshots if you can.



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https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/29/4xRNT.png
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/29/4xmia.png
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Today at 02:13:14 AM
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If they don't pay it I guarantee the case will go as unsolved on AskGamblers & CasinoGuru because they have no case, so their reputation going in the hole even more is good enough for me at the end of the day, but I most definitely will proceed with lawyers in Curacao just to be petty if they don't payout.
Can you please share links to AskGamblers and Casinoguru case?

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Today at 03:32:51 AM
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If they don't pay it I guarantee the case will go as unsolved on AskGamblers & CasinoGuru because they have no case, so their reputation going in the hole even more is good enough for me at the end of the day, but I most definitely will proceed with lawyers in Curacao just to be petty if they don't payout.
Can you please share links to AskGamblers and Casinoguru case?

AskGamblers one is pending, CasinoGuru one says itll be public in 6 days.

https://casinoguru-en.com/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-has-been-delayed-9
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