Club loyalty or winning bet?

[carlfebz2]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

I love and support my club so much and I will argue with anyone who talks down on my club. I will walk under the rain just to go and watch my favorite club play every weekend and week days. But when it comes to placing a bet against them that will make me cash out I will go with the bet and win my money. The club is doing their business and at same time they are also entertaining their fans, so I will also do my business and support them as well. A dime will never enter my pocket if the club wins the Champions league, but I will still use my money to buy the new kits for the new season, so I have to go with the $500 because if the club don't win the Champions league, they made their own money as well.

You choice then its none others business on how they would really be gonna be dealing with it. We do re ally know that there are people who are really die hard fans on which no matter what they do and see
then if they have seen up their team/club is on the line then they would really immediately making up some bets blindly even if they are really that on disadvantage. Well, its their money so its their right on which one they would really be choosing and which one they would really be supporting.For those sportbettors who are really that minding about winning then of course they would really be focusing into those teams on which it does have that advantage on which its normal. There are really that people who are really just that making themselves blind as long they do support their favorite team.

For me then of course i would really be choosing on whose on the advantage. Although it wont really be that precise anytime but at least you've sticken into yourself on choosing
on which does have that better winning rate.

[Slow death]

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

If I'm not mistaken, one of the main rules in sports betting is: "don't put your feelings into gambling" based on this precept, when we are going to place a bet, we cannot bet based on the feelings we have for the team we are fans of. We have to look at the data that is before our eyes, such as whether the team has lost more or less in direct confrontations with the opponent, the results of the last 5 games, the quality of each team's squad, the performance of each team when playing away or at home. When we analyze all these points very carefully, then we can make a decision. If the decision is that the team we are fans of has a greater chance of losing, then we have to bet on the opponent and accept the result. If a person keeps putting feelings into gambling, then that person will be more likely to lose everything they have and become depressed.

[rahmad2nd]

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I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

Every bettor who likes sports has their own way and opinion, there are die-hard supporters and there are those who see more profitable probabilities than choosing their favorite team. We will find these various phenomena wherever it is, without exception. In fact, everyone has their own will and choice in determining bets. They are free to choose according to their wishes, even though the probability of losing is very high. It's just that they are brave and willing to do it. In addition, they are supporters who do not see other options other than choosing their favorite team. Sometimes, we can do things like that. It's just that, there is always a reason for speculation to choose a favorite team even though the ratio of losing is quite large. Football is unique, we will not implement the same policy in every bet. Sometimes emotional roles are involved in betting, especially in crucial matches such as the example in this thread.

For me personally, it all depends on the options given by the bookie. Plus, every decision must involve a rational choice. When choosing a favorite team and the opponent is a tough team, what percentage do we have if the choice is the favorite team. for me, it's not just about the club I love. but, how we can win the bet. I am the type of bettor who never chooses a team that is against my favorite team, but in fact there are other options that I can do. that's the use of research and analysis, so that we can choose other options than choosing a team. the option of two teams scoring goals, Under/Over and others like that are more ideal for me. regarding loyalty, all bettors have their own understanding.

[passwordnow]

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

In Esports, I am a fan of many teams. But I don't care how much loyalty they would count for because they're all good and this is a community that everyone knows that they're all loved by their fans and everyone who plays the game. If it's with the betting side, they don't mind who's going to side with them or not. As a matter of fact, there have been players that are not even loyal to their teams and to themselves, why? Because of the issues of throwing games so that they can win their own bets casted by another person or staff they own or someone close to them. And that's why loyalty means nothing in esports and the same goes in other sports or clubs that you all know of. It's just such a good feeling to be a fan of the sport that you really like but you have to be different in emotion when you gamble.

[Frankolala]

This is an old discussion but I will still give my contribution. I have passion for my club does not mean that when they are not performing well, I will still throw my money on them when I know that they will not win the game, I see that as a waste of funds.

I will bet against my club, if I know that it is a sure bet and they cannot outperform the club that they are playing with because they are underdogs. When it comes to gambling, I don't have a favorite club because I love to win always if possible and not losing.

[JoyMarsha]

There are many people whose attitude of being a diehard fan is affecting their brain not to bet against their supporting club just to appear loyal to a club that is doing their normal business, and cashing out big, not knowing that, there are some of their fans who are blind of not making some little money of placing bets against them when they are not in good form to win matches.

I see this kind of diehard fans who don't bet against their clubs, as those who are been sentimental about football. They don't know what bets are actually for, to bet for fun even against the team you are a fan of.

[ajiz138]

this question has been asked and discussed many many times. Of course I completely don't care of my "favorite team" if they can win or achieve a loss since I want make money with my bet. Of course Best of option would be have both event (winning bet ... by favorite team) but this is not always possible and gamblers must be aware of that...

Just as I have a favorite team but will not have excessive loyalty, therefore betting on the team that will win it I just want profit even if the favorite team loses it doesn't matter.
It is possible to choose the favorite team and win the bet if they play with a low opponent, but we must be aware of the ball game sometimes even elite teams can lose in the champion league.

[Fortify]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

A truly rational gambler, someone that is interested in increasing their bank account, should be purely looking at it through a mathematical point of view. If the odds are worth the risk and indicate that your preferred team are on the losing side of the bet, then you should choose the bet that will win only. You don't necessarily have to bet against your team if there are many markets open, you could bet on the final total score or the amount of fouls that occur in the game instead. You'll find that many addicted gamblers have thrown all logic out of the window and chase these sort of superstitious ideas, but it just leads to losing money. Bet on your team if you like, but just do it for fun.

[hahay]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

Therefore, I no longer idolize any team in the world,  at least to make me more comfortable betting. Because previously I had a favorite team, for example in Serie A there was Juventus, in England there was Liverpool, in La Liga there was Barcelona and of course in the Bundesliga there was Bayern Munich. But, after I actively bet at that time, at least it made me fixated because it was difficult to bet on the opponent they were facing even though, in reality,the opponent was better at that moment.

Due to this, it felt like I was not free, so I decided to no longer favor any team or idolize any team. Because then of course I can bet comfortably and after a long time has passed, of  course I can enjoy it. But indeed, of course there is no problem if for example you still idolize a team and then you also bet on the opposing team. Because after all,  I think it would be better to make a winning bet than to be stupid betting on your favorite team even though at that moment the opposing team's quality is clearly better.

[Fiatless]

This is an old discussion but I will still give my contribution. I have passion for my club does not mean that when they are not performing well, I will still throw my money on them when I know that they will not win the game, I see that as a waste of funds.

I will bet against my club, if I know that it is a sure bet and they cannot outperform the club that they are playing with because they are underdogs. When it comes to gambling, I don't have a favorite club because I love to win always if possible and not losing.

The discussion is not about betting against your club when they are not performing well. It is about choosing between winning $500 and letting your club lose a Champions League final and forgoing the money so that your club wins the competition.

I have seen people spend thousands of dollars to go and watch their favorite teams. In my location, some loyal fans spend money on parties because the club won a trophy. When Chelsea won the UEFA Champions League, loyal fans had a lavish party that cost them so much money. So, I still believe that there are gamblers who will choose to lose $500 on a bet because they want to see their club win this prestigious trophy. Maybe I can conclude that rich gamblers are the ones who will be able to forgo this amount. While gamblers who are low-income earners will grab the sum since it is huge considering how much they earn.

[Quidat]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I am also a fan of a club that I love, but I would prefer to win a $500 bet than to see them win the UCL. My loyalty doesn't supersede my quest for gambling wins. What's your view?

A truly rational gambler, someone that is interested in increasing their bank account, should be purely looking at it through a mathematical point of view. If the odds are worth the risk and indicate that your preferred team are on the losing side of the bet, then you should choose the bet that will win only. You don't necessarily have to bet against your team if there are many markets open, you could bet on the final total score or the amount of fouls that occur in the game instead. You'll find that many addicted gamblers have thrown all logic out of the window and chase these sort of superstitious ideas, but it just leads to losing money. Bet on your team if you like, but just do it for fun.

Main things that should really be considered on which choosing up on which one you would really be making yourself that having those choices whether they would be focusing into emotional aspect or they would really be that basing up into that odds or chances of winning on which i do see  that majority of bettors who do really get in line with this thing rather than on focusing on showing up some support into their teams. It would really be basing up on someones personal choice whether they would really be loyal or not but just like on what most people been saying on here that we are heavily focused
on how we would be able to make ourselves that profitable into betting on which it wont really be something that you would be mindful about being loyal if you do know the chances are really that small
specially on winning a match.

[Frankolala]

This is an old discussion but I will still give my contribution. I have passion for my club does not mean that when they are not performing well, I will still throw my money on them when I know that they will not win the game, I see that as a waste of funds.

I will bet against my club, if I know that it is a sure bet and they cannot outperform the club that they are playing with because they are underdogs. When it comes to gambling, I don't have a favorite club because I love to win always if possible and not losing.

The discussion is not about betting against your club when they are not performing well. It is about choosing between winning $500 and letting your club lose a Champions League final and forgoing the money so that your club wins the competition.

I have seen people spend thousands of dollars to go and watch their favorite teams. In my location, some loyal fans spend money on parties because the club won a trophy. When Chelsea won the UEFA Champions League, loyal fans had a lavish party that cost them so much money. So, I still believe that there are gamblers who will choose to lose $500 on a bet because they want to see their club win this prestigious trophy. Maybe I can conclude that rich gamblers are the ones who will be able to forgo this amount. While gamblers who are low-income earners will grab the sum since it is huge considering how much they earn.

Thanks for head up, I will not take the $500 because I will live my club and fans to celebrate the victory so that it will be recorded in history that my club won UCL. The reason why I said so is because many fans all over the world will be celebrating and like you said some person goes as far as throwing party because their club won UCL. That's the fun in it.

If I collect the $500 and my club lose the finals, it means that I am only after myself and a fake fan of that club because the money will finish and the defeat will become history, whenever a discussion of that match day is on. Money cannot history and records with trophies.

[bakasabo]

Betting on favorite club to win is not the only option to support. If it is obvious that favorite team or athlete will lose, dont bet, but instead, buy a tshirt with name on it and cheer during the game for example. Actually, I dont understand how loyalty and betting even work together. Clubs or athletes dont organize their own betting casinos.

This is just it. The club do not have its own betting site. So why should a fan be so foolish of knowing the club he is supporting would lose and still bet on the club. If the person bet against the club and the club lose, not that the club will lose more because the person do not bet on them.

But if someone still feel somehow unfair after betting on opponent and winning, then this person can donate amount won to favorite club or athlete.

It does not make sense and I see it as foolishness because if the club win and the person lose, the club will not give the money lost back to the loser.

I will share a secret by telling, that the person who supports club or athlete will his all heart, does not have to share information about his bet with others Other loyal fans are not monitoring every fans action. What, a person can be expelled from fan club just for betting against?

People should be more reasonable and not mix money and something that attracts them. When people operate with money, they should always have a logical explanation of what they are doing. Bet against, win, spend more money further support.

[Ultegra134]

I will share a secret by telling, that the person who supports club or athlete will his all heart, does not have to share information about his bet with others Other loyal fans are not monitoring every fans action. What, a person can be expelled from fan club just for betting against?

People should be more reasonable and not mix money and something that attracts them. When people operate with money, they should always have a logical explanation of what they are doing. Bet against, win, spend more money further support.

Well, that's one way to put it; you don't have to be truly honest about it. That way, you can at least avoid being booed at by diehard club fans. Personally, screw club loyalty. I was never a die-hard fan of football to begin with; thus, I'm not the best example out there, but even if we suppose I was, I'd take a winning bet all the way. Time is money, and our money is coming through our work. I'm not going to take the risk of losing it in a game that seems impossible.

[SmartGold01]

The question you should asked the diehard fan is that when was the last day s/he received free dollars from hIs club as a loyalist or even as a supporter for this period he has been there fan?
Let the truth be told many people are fooling themselves in the name of loyalty or supporters, see, listen don't get it twisted and I didn't say you shouldn't be a loyalist or supporters of any club but my question is that what do you gain at the later end being a supporter of a team and bet against yourself after which the said team qualifies and take their rewards homes to their respective families and you there dying and starving without any peanuts at home? I am equally a fan of a club but when it comes time gambling I gambling the win and secure my bags first then anytime i don't place bet I can keep supporting my clubs for the being.

[Docnaster]

When it comes to loyalty to ones club, some fans are 100% passionate when it comes to their clubs and would not mind losing their gamblings just so their clubs can win some very important trophies while there are other football fans who still supports their favorite clubs but will never want to lose a dime just for the success of their club and these two group of fans I think are absolutely right with how they've chosen to support their clubs.
For me, it depends on the importance of the trophy and how eager I want my club to win and how big and impactful the amount I'm supposed to win. I'll easily choose a gambling win that'll change my financial status quo over whichever trophy my club is supposed to win.

[crwth]

I think it is better to Prioritize the winning bet because you could gamble more and bet more on your club. Isn’t that a win-win situation? It’s not just being loyal to the club but making sure that you can go the distance.

It’s nice to focus on a club, but maybe you could try diversifying it as well.

[Coin_trader]

A few days ago, two friends who were gamblers were discussing, and one of them said that he would be willing to lose a bet that would make him cash out $500 so that the club he supports could win the UEFA Champions League this season. The other one, who is also a fan of the same club, said his friend was stupid. He said he prefers to win the bet and doesn't care if the club wins the Champions League. The other diehard fan told him that he was not loyal to the club and was not worthy to be a fan.

I remember reading this same scenario or same manner of situation which a person consider their bet as support to the team.

This topic always create a divided answer since we have different perspective on how we view support to the team. For me, my bet doesn’t consider support to the team since there’s nothing to gain from my bet to the team. My bet is for my personal entertainment when watching the game.

Buying team merch and sending donations is what you can consider as support to the team while lose bet is considered as support to the casino.

[$weetne$$]

Sports betting is a very passionate type of gambling. This is because some gamblers are supporters of a team or contestant before even placing bets on them. Some fans are so passionate about a club that they can risk betting on them even when they know that they lack the quality to win the game. They don't care if they win because they want to show their loyalty or support for their favorite clubs or teams.

I love my club but I would not intentionally lose my money for them. Gambling is a business to me when I am playing sport betting and I do not intentionally sabotage myself because I'm f my team wins, they share the money without giving anything to their fans. The club is their business and my support is my way of contributing to them. If there is a game I know my club can not win and there is an odd for me to make good money, I would not mind betting against them. If I win the money it can also help me to support my club more as I can have money and live more comfortably to watch matches often without being concerned about how to get money by going to work as I usually do. But if the match was a cup final, I will have to support my club despite my bets.

[Wexnident]

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Fuck the club man I want to win. Besides, wouldn't yous ay that knowing when your club is going to lose is a testament to being a great fan since you know your team the best, both on strength and weakness? If I wanted to spend money on supporting my team and talk about loyalty, I'd spend it on merch and stuff where they get the money (or a part of it), not on bookies lol.

People who push the reason that they bet on a losing team because they're fans is well... I agree. Go do it! So I can profit off of you guys all the time