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August 02, 2024, 12:05:52 PM
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It reminds me of writing an objective examination in high school and when you're done with the questions you're certain of, and you just do some random selections and luck could shine on you and you get up to 70% from your rough prediction.

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Well, your luck does work out sometimes even in sports betting, but in general, you can't depend on luck all the time because you can't get all the guesses right all the time and you will start losing more bets as you continue. If you had tried the same thing the next day, you would see different results for sure, but if you were making bets after knowing the sides and understanding which player or team has a higher chance of winning, you would have a higher winning average.

So sports betting is definitely different than gambling games because gambling games require no knowledge or experience for you to win, but when it comes to sports betting, you can only stay profitable in the long run if you have enough knowledge about the sport you are making your bets on.

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August 02, 2024, 12:17:33 PM
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I agree with what @alani123 mentioned: realistically, sports betting relies heavily on luck. No matter what analysis you read or conduct, or even if you're a self-proclaimed expert, there's no accurate way to predict a match's outcome. I'm generally placing bets on football and occasionally basketball; I'm not too much of a sports person in general, and I haven't bothered with anything else.

My knowledge is pretty limited, but I've had my fair share of luck in the Euro 2024 tournament, and I've placed random bets as well. I believe we've all done it at some point; it's not that big of a deal, provided that you don't make it a habit. Sometimes you'll win, and sometimes you'll lose. As I mentioned earlier, luck is the most vital parameter. The main reason I'm not actively participating in the 2024 Olympics is because I have zero knowledge of the majority of the sports; thus, I find it too risky to go on a blind betting spree.

You shouldn't place bets blindly, no matter how much weight the luck factor has in betting. I believe that analysis and knowledge of players tip the scales in favor of the gambler. And even if the share of luck is very large, you can win if you understand sports.
Even if the chances are 45 against 55 percent - this is already a good result in the long run.
In slots, luck plays a completely decisive role, and the player's skills have no effect. That's why I don't like slots.

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August 02, 2024, 12:25:53 PM
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sports betting experience when digesting the speculation that is obtained also has not made luck. throughout sports betting there will definitely be where we slip not right. but I think most sports gambling players mostly win if they really understand the situation of the team, club with the opponent playing. bet enough to add ammunition to bets gradually

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August 02, 2024, 12:29:33 PM
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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

Yes on several occasions, we may make guesses base on the game involved, this does not means whether we are going to lose the game hundred percent or win as well, in gambling, it is not also by having the experience that makes a winning come through, we can accept the two altogether that we should be experience and then have the luck coupled together, when we are gambling, we cant predict whether to win  or not, we only see what comes after the game over the bet we made.

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August 02, 2024, 02:42:45 PM
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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Of course, everyone will have experiences like this in any case, including gamblers in gambling, I myself when I did not know more about soccer then wanted to try it, it relied on guessing because I only knew the name of the team and did not know how the history, statistics and even players.

For example, I only knew Ronaldo at that time and then I chose to bet on Real Madrid, without knowing the structure of the players and the course of the Real Madrid match with the team he was playing against, so I thought it was just a guess.
Even though it's just a guess, you have marked up some knowledge in this sports game, you may not know the history or statistics of the matches,
just knowing the popularity of a few players is enough to have an extra betting percentage to rely on, human consciousness does not allow for a random guess, they guess based on what they have heard and also what others have passed on to them. Betting is always a mixture of more or less knowledge plus a percentage of luck, winning will increase more due to our knowledge but this percentage cannot surpass pure luck.

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August 02, 2024, 03:01:56 PM
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But I tried predicting who could be the winner on random game with random athletes I have no Idea whatsoever just purely for fun or did as friendly contest with someone nearby.

Is this not the same as what the op asked?

I don’t think I understood the part of your post I bolded out - the game which you selected the winner randomly did you place the bet in any gambling site with your friend? Or you just randomly selected and also made your friend select theirs without ever going to any casino to bet on it, like you guys just did it and waited to see who would win the prediction, is that what happened?


No, I didn't bet any money. I was saying just imagine a group of your friends/colleagues then I say he is gonna win then 2nd person say no, this person is gonna win and something like that. So if I win or lose nothing happens just predicting who may win that game especially if it Olympics games.

What I was saying,I will never randomly predict and bet my money and explained why I think it's different from casino games.

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August 03, 2024, 07:21:48 AM
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It reminds me of writing an objective examination in high school and when you're done with the questions you're certain of, and you just do some random selections and luck could shine on you and you get up to 70% from your rough prediction.

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Lol...you are very correct about the objective (OBJ) questions and answers, I could remember too in those days, all the questions had to be answered regardless of whether we knew what we chose, it will definitely be a better chance for us than leaving all of them blank. Smiley

Again, I do not see anything bad in gambling with a team you are not familiar with, but what I will not advise is for us to "gamble within gambling" by randomly picking our options, that's unprofessional and guesswork that is void of honour. Even if we did not know these teams, we can do our research to gather the needed information not that we risk our money blindly in that way.

I've done something similar before, especially if the odds are big enough, notwithstanding, it takes me nothing to sort for some useful information online about them instead of opting for the ignoble act of guessing.

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August 03, 2024, 09:27:59 AM
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sports betting experience when digesting the speculation that is obtained also has not made luck. throughout sports betting there will definitely be where we slip not right. but I think most sports gambling players mostly win if they really understand the situation of the team, club with the opponent playing. bet enough to add ammunition to bets gradually
No guarantees for you to wins for many times when you places your bet in sports betting. Gambling is not designs to gives you the big wins too often and if you can wins for some time, that means your luck comes to you in the right time. Even if you have a good skills in analyzing the match, that will not guarantees you can win so you must be careful with your bet and not placing a big bet if you don't wants to lose big.

Some gamblers can't takes a right decision when they can see the temporary winning and still wants to waits for the match is over. But that match can change and will not gives us the win because the opponent can beats our team. Once that happen, we will loses our money and that can lead us want to recovers our lost money and that means, we will place another bet in the next match. We must remembers that even we know a sports well, that will not guarantee for us to win many times.

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August 04, 2024, 09:40:26 AM
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I tried out something while I was watching some games in the ongoing Olympics and this is what I did;

I looked out for sports I wasn't conversant with the athletes and didn't  know who was better at the sports and did a random prediction on the outcome of the game. I did it for swimming competition and some random boxing yesterday and out of up to 7 predictions I made, almost 6 went the way I predicted it.

It reminds me of writing an objective examination in high school and when you're done with the questions you're certain of, and you just do some random selections and luck could shine on you and you get up to 70% from your rough prediction.

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

That is the  reason why winning doesn't only comes from being an expert, I can remember the very first time I played the stimulated visual game in sports betting I had a random pick and I won even without knowing or having much of the ideas, most times games usually play in the opposite direction hence luck has a major role to play whenever we play games, you can as well try it in real game but I will advise that it should not be much of accumulation it should just be few games, it almost the same thing as per your narrative of writing an objective exam, although there is no guarantee as to this regards.

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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Yes I did it before when I was a newbie. I just want to try my luck, so i'm just guessing who would win. I blindly placed my bet and I condition myself that i'm ready to lose it. But you know, it's not a good idea even you're prepared for the worse. Because why placing bet if you don't have idea on the sports that you're going to bet in? If you can gain knowledge to maximize your chance to win? It's true that luck is a major factor in gambling however in sports you can somehow use your knowledge to choose the right team.

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August 04, 2024, 10:49:36 AM
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I tried out something while I was watching some games in the ongoing Olympics and this is what I did;

I looked out for sports I wasn't conversant with the athletes and didn't  know who was better at the sports and did a random prediction on the outcome of the game. I did it for swimming competition and some random boxing yesterday and out of up to 7 predictions I made, almost 6 went the way I predicted it.

It reminds me of writing an objective examination in high school and when you're done with the questions you're certain of, and you just do some random selections and luck could shine on you and you get up to 70% from your rough prediction.

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?

In your case you know less about these games, you just decide to give a try and things turned out well for you, this is pure act of gamble and you got lucky, if you think otherwise you can decide to give a try again and I can bet with you that things won't turn out the same.

Some people like you choose games that they are very good at and things went bad for them, see, from now on it will be better to accept that you are just lucky whenever you predict and things work your way, there is nothing special about you, don't start feeling yourself as a special kind you are nothing but human like the rest of us.

It is better you stick to risking what you can afford to lose or else you will likely end up regretting your decision, gambling is still gambling, an act of predicting the future and that my friend isn't withing the capabilities of any human.

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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Yes I did it before when I was a newbie. I just want to try my luck, so i'm just guessing who would win. I blindly placed my bet and I condition myself that i'm ready to lose it. But you know, it's not a good idea even you're prepared for the worse. Because why placing bet if you don't have idea on the sports that you're going to bet in? If you can gain knowledge to maximize your chance to win? It's true that luck is a major factor in gambling however in sports you can somehow use your knowledge to choose the right team.

Somehow its exciting to do that since we don't know what will be the result and here we are placing our bets on random things but I rarely do this since just decide to place a bet in unfamiliar sports when just got bored and nothing to do. Especially if there's no exciting games on familiar leagues is good to  place my bets.

But I discourage people to do this especially if they think luck play huge role to win money on sports betting since most likely it will end up losing in their side especially they don't have any idea on what they are doing. Much better if we stick on leagues which we have knowledge about what's happening in that sports since it can increase our chance to win rather than thinking about just being lucky to win in random situations.

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August 05, 2024, 07:51:12 AM
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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Yes I did it before when I was a newbie. I just want to try my luck, so i'm just guessing who would win. I blindly placed my bet and I condition myself that i'm ready to lose it. But you know, it's not a good idea even you're prepared for the worse. Because why placing bet if you don't have idea on the sports that you're going to bet in? If you can gain knowledge to maximize your chance to win? It's true that luck is a major factor in gambling however in sports you can somehow use your knowledge to choose the right team.

People who start gambling at first time lose gambling because of lack of good gambling experience. But before we start gambling we must start gambling after having good gambling experience. When we start gambling at first time.  I had no idea and experience in gambling which resulted in losing gambling most of the time.

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People who watch a lot of football will prolly pick the right winners, but long term, he/she will still lose if he/she doesn't get the right odds for his/her bet. The person may know who the winner is six or seven times out of ten, BUT the sports betting service still holds the edge because they control the odds. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah the commission/house edge matter.

People didn't realize if we're risking 100% to win 100% - commission/house edge, so in the end we're in loss due to losing more than winning.

It's why, if someone can find a bookmarker that give EV+, they should take advantage from it.

There are so many thing we need to know if we want to make money from gambling, not only good in analysis.


I believe those opportunities can be found during those times when those sports betting services start opening the betting for the particular event. Those opening odds are probably with more mistakes than usual in general because it has not been corrected by the movements of the top 10% of winners yet. It's most probably the same as trading the markets.

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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Yes I did it before when I was a newbie. I just want to try my luck, so i'm just guessing who would win. I blindly placed my bet and I condition myself that i'm ready to lose it. But you know, it's not a good idea even you're prepared for the worse. Because why placing bet if you don't have idea on the sports that you're going to bet in? If you can gain knowledge to maximize your chance to win? It's true that luck is a major factor in gambling however in sports you can somehow use your knowledge to choose the right team.
Gambling involves luck and certain level of expertise to maximize chances of winning, I know of a person who is extremely good when it comes to sport betting, it takes him quite some time to pick up the games and accumulate their odds including teams he has no knowledge about yet he still receives a good compensation from his betting. Both luck and how much known has influence on one's chances of winning, so instead of depending on one alone which may not be efficient, try compiling both as it is much suitable to profit from.

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Is your win a function of luck or how much you know a sports?
Actually it can be a combination between luck and some knowledge about the athletes or that team. Sometimes luck might be in your favor and get few correct predictions, but that won’t last for long, since most of the competitions are just representing very strong athletes that have more chances to win than any other athlete you would choose, and in that moment you will need knowledge more than you will need luck.

I made some multiple betting attempts to win with a very high multiplier, I never won anything before because of losing one or two of those bets, and to be eligible for your win you will need to predict all the 6 or more games correctly.

Sports knowledge alone won’t make you profitable also, as long as luck isn’t beside you. It is so difficult to predict more than 6 games correctly without being lucky.

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So sports betting is definitely different than gambling games because gambling games require no knowledge or experience for you to win, but when it comes to sports betting, you can only stay profitable in the long run if you have enough knowledge about the sport you are making your bets on.

In sports betting you also need luck because the results of a match cannot be predicted. But I think knowledge about sports is more important than just luck. If you only rely on luck you have a 50/50 chance on your bet. But with the knowledge you have and your knowledge of the history of the sport you can place bets on the right choices and luck will increase your chances of winning the bet.

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Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Yes I did it before when I was a newbie. I just want to try my luck, so i'm just guessing who would win. I blindly placed my bet and I condition myself that i'm ready to lose it. But you know, it's not a good idea even you're prepared for the worse. Because why placing bet if you don't have idea on the sports that you're going to bet in? If you can gain knowledge to maximize your chance to win? It's true that luck is a major factor in gambling however in sports you can somehow use your knowledge to choose the right team.
Sportbet require skills for you to enjoy placing your bet on the teams that are playing and if you don't have any knowledge about the two teams playing and you bet on them does not mean that you might lose the game because luck can make you win the game but I will call it a blind bet.

Any gambler that places his bet on a match that he has no idea about should do it for fun and not for profit so that he will not be disappointed on the outcome of his bet. However, if you are doing it for fun if you lose, it will not bother you.

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I tried out something while I was watching some games in the ongoing Olympics and this is what I did;

I looked out for sports I wasn't conversant with the athletes and didn't  know who was better at the sports and did a random prediction on the outcome of the game. I did it for swimming competition and some random boxing yesterday and out of up to 7 predictions I made, almost 6 went the way I predicted it.

It reminds me of writing an objective examination in high school and when you're done with the questions you're certain of, and you just do some random selections and luck could shine on you and you get up to 70% from your rough prediction.

I have not tried this in real games that involves using money but would want to know if anyone has ever tried it before.

Have you ever placed a bet by just doing random guesses on the outcome of the game?
Yes, I made such predictions for the Europa League, sometimes for 10-15 matches in an express, mainly based on short audits about the teams, and several times there were expresses where I simply guessed 14 results out of 15.
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Certain games are more dependent on luck and other ones are more depending on ability. In the case of chess, it is all ability; in poker and blackjack (specially poker) ability plays a great role, but chance is still important to some extent. And on the contrary, games like lottery or slots are 100% dependent on chance.

In the case of sports betting I think that, although knowledge can help, it is not key to win or lose, and it is mainly based on luck. We all heard about people who knew nothing about sports and became millionaire because of pure luck.



I totally agree, some games are strictly dependent on luck, and casinos are one of such, it has no patterns or strategies that work constantly you can only get.. people claim to have systems that work in casinos but it's a lie... sports betting on the hand is quite easier to bet on especially if you have knowledge on football and fully understand how the system works, there are newbies who play randomly on their first try and win millions, that's just their luck, things like that don't happen everyday.... you point is valid knowledge can only help to an extent

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