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August 09, 2024, 05:07:12 PM
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Just recived the reply from compliance, they say the same TOS TOS, but they didn't answer or mention anything about their dark behaviour, be ready scammers I'm gonna fuck your site.

Anyone that happened the same as me can contact me and send me proves that rollbit are scammers so I can add it to the report(for the moment I'll do an individual report, if I recive more proves we can do a collective report), videos and website.

There’s zero chance to win against them this way since they have the ToS backing their decision with your case. Allowing you to get your money will open up this loophole which restricted players can play ignorant with the ToS then play dumb once they are caught since Rollbit will just refund funds.

Their reputation is rock solid here due to their good track record for helping forum member with legitimate case. I think you can ask them for some reconsideration and give you part of your profit as compensation.
Most crypto casinos never return the money if you play in a banned jurisdiction. It’s a one way street that bothers me.
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August 09, 2024, 06:25:55 PM
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I'm not sure if was Rating or Holydarknes that can contact Razor but if you can, can you ask Razor about this behaviour that I experienced?
Like I told before, If I was ban the first moment they knew I was from Spain I would agree with them,but I've been a loser and I was more than welcome,but when I'm profitable you don't pay me? Cmone Rollbit... you can do it better.

Also I've read a topic about a Belgium guy that also got ban but at the end Rollbit released hes withdrawal, I have faith in Rollbit still.
Also a spanish streamer happened the same as me and finally Rollbit did pay him too(maybe because he has more reach than me?).

I promise if they release my withdrawal requested before the ban I'll delete all mentioned and have good words for Rollbit, I'm the first one who wants to end this asap, you know I've always like Rollbit.

meanwhile I'm already contacting with Spanish casino influencers so they can help me to reach the max people about this.
I'm already working on hyper visual videos that I'll post on a website and share it via all internet, If I need to pay a server to have bots in ytb, x.com etc. to constantly remember the people my experience, I'll pay it, servers cost me 20$ a month, it's OK.

I hate doing this, It's work for me and waste my time to get my money xd, I prefer to invest my time in other stuff, but 5K are 5K my boys, and if they fck me I can guarantee that somehow Rollbit will remember that Spaniard that got 5k scammed.

Luckly in my professional experience I've been working with all kind of bots and I can be a fcker too, for this I'm 100% sure that's all planned in the past and a business manager and engineer did the Trello task so well.


That's no hate for Rollbit, I'm just sharing my experience LOL, would be hate if I was lying.

So I'll just wait for compliance team response, I have faith in compliance team and Rollbit, thanks for the replies mates.

Have a good day.

I made my previous post here right before I have to jump and do IRL activities, didn't exactly read the new post that's made few minutes before mine, and just read them now. Addressing the points raised above, and this below,

Ye holy you don't talk about the dark behaviour of Rollbit, so you are agreeing this dark behaviour, thanks.
I don't get why you keep saying TOS TOS, yes I've read Spain is restricted, now you are happy? Let's move to the dark behaviour of Rollbit.
Please don't say they're in process to do like Stake, I can do that in 3 days, they have engineers 100k/year please, I'm not stupid.
That's like leaving a gun in a table and put a cartel saying "don't touch it", you have faith no one will never touch it? It's not better to simply don't put the gun in the table? Please stop this stupid replies.

Could you ask to Razor about I've been a loser and never got KYC(if I was a loser all my life, I would be a VIP member Rollbit) and after 4 months and become profitable they KYC and now ban or doesn't interest to ask him this? If not It's ok, it's all said, emails sent and I'm preparing big things too.

Now let's see you reply again saying TOS TOS is your bad, more times you say TOS you are defending more this dark behaviour.

I'm a bit tired of watching screenshots of restricted country spain and TOS TOS, if replies doesn't say anything new, I'll just reply here when compliance team replies me.

I believe you guys are here to help player, and not to favour casino and get a comission of it, so thanks all for your effort in my case, I'll update it here when compliance team replies me.

Have a good day

I'll start by saying that perhaps it's my current IRL situation, with my plate full and I'm at a hair trigger from snapping at my workers and the incompetencies they do these past few days that prompt me to take this course of action and wrote this post, but I somehow doubted that as I believe I am in current mental state as how I always am when I am typing my post on this forum.

Nonetheless, for the purpose of context, I've always strive to keep these two worlds separate, my IRL situation and the cryptocommunity, and give my best not to let any and each influence the other. I am giving my best to ensure the annoyance with my staff and/or a stupid client will not intervene with how I approach cases here, that I oversee things with levelheadedness.

When I start to get annoyed, I'll walk away and return to the forum once I am sure my head is cool. So perhaps this is me failing to keep the lid that separate them from closing perfectly and I let them poured here, it'll be a plausible reason why I "snap" like this, but I somewhat doubt that. I somewhat certain it's what OP said that prompt this wall of text.

Quite frankly, I don't respond well to a detrimental behavior depicted on your post as I underlined. Unless I understand the writing wrongly, I read them as, summarized, "pay me or I'll start campaign that will damage your reputation" while the situation here [this is me being completely redundant] so far tell us that you share a major role and a big portion of fault here.

On many cases where things start to get out of hand and the user got frustrated and wanted to take a drastic measures by jumping straight away to the highest authorities they have in mind --be it CG or AG or their licensor or file a lawsuit-- I'll always try to level those situation down and try to maintain a situation where we can get a resolution for the dispute through the forum.

This is not a case where a player got frustrated and things as above, this is a situation where someone threaten to either get what they wanted or they'll do a length to put a dent on one's reputation. I find it ticked my nerve and I am sure I can't keep my cool from this point forward.

So, I am granting your wish from the second post which I mark in bold: I'll stop replying. Not just "stupid replies", I'll stop replying altogether. I am removing myself from this thread.

I believe there are others that can still reach Razer to convey your message if they're willing to do so, and they're more than welcome to do it if they want. I refuse to facilitate a communication and/or to mediate between the casino and the OP any further due to the detrimental behavior OP shows.

Regardless, I'll mark this one as resolved. Why, if anyone interested to ask? Well, there are three possible situation here: one, OP got what he wanted by those threat and Rollbit gave in, paid him, thus his situation resolved. Two, OP gave up as his bullets turns out to be blank, Rollbit won't budge, and he accepted Rollbit's decision, thus, resolved. Or three, where there's nothing here but empty words, no further action and/or statement made, the dead horse stays dead, left alone and not being beaten, so Rollbit's final ruling is what applies, thus, resolved.

OP, good luck and good bye.


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August 11, 2024, 10:45:06 PM
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Holy, like all your replies are TOS TOS TOS, and you are mad bcause i'm tired of reading TOS TOS TOS, I said like 3 times OK with TOS, so leave TOS away and try to help me with this dark behaviour of Rollbit.

Rollbit compliance team answer me and they don't want to pay me, no matter what they won't pay me.

I won't accept my 5k scammed, somehow, I'll fuck Rollbit for scamming me and leaving me 4 months playing and losing, the moment I win they restrict me.

I've sent this case to DGOJ, hope they can help or at least, fuck Rollbit.

And yes, Rollbit told me is a mere coincidence that I'm blocked when I'm profitable, after more than 120 days, when I requested the withdrawal that made me profitable XD.

What is a coincidence is that Rollbit is still open.

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January 06, 2025, 02:23:14 AM
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Until not solved, when I'll get my withdraw 5k?
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January 07, 2025, 06:23:45 PM
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[...]But in order to avoid misleading the users you should clearly mention in the OP of the thread or in its title that the case is still unresolved or ongoing as clinexrino did for his own IMO [UNRESOLVED]Rollbit SCAMS money from restricted players with 0% chance of lose

Saint-loup, not trying to start a whole new drama of someone accusing someone else that brought the forum a new thread in repu with pages of unnecessary posts as I don't have time for that. Rather, I am here to clear any doubt, suppose it ever raised, following the above post of yours [the part itself is deliberately removed in order not to stir anything in the muddy pot, and only relevant info being addressed, on the exact thread, to stay being on topic] of how the list being treated and how an outcome pulled, as well as serving as a preventive measures in case your post on the other thread unintentionally give the thread owner an idea and ammunition to twist another narrative.

As this thread also marked as resolved despite the thread owner's present dissatisfaction, I'll break this one down on how the decision about the status of the case was made.

A quick recap in case you did not read the thread, this is a case of a player accessing from restricted teritory, Spain, where Rollbit through Razer uses me as a proxy to relay about their [obvious] ruling. The complete ToS finalizing and binding the thread can be found on post #51.

OP could not accept this and choose other, more... "persuasive" method, which translates into something that's borderline attempting to force the casino to play by creating a public attention and peer pressure, as depicted on post #55 as well as submitting formal complaint to DGOJ, as initially hinted on #60, and ralized on #63.

The consideration to put it as resolved [other than the clear cut explanation of a ToS being broken], was explained on my post number #62. Which, judging from OP bumping his thread after a while and I have never seen that "public announcement", it was situation number 3.

I will appreciate your insight on this, if you think the case worth being marked as "in progress" [or perhaps other status] alongside with the explanation why it should be that.


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January 23, 2025, 11:38:54 PM
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Until not solved, when I'll get my withdraw 5k?

The only realistic way to recover money from the casino is by claiming your net losses. There’s almost no legal basis for you to demand any winnings back, as playing from a restricted region invalidates your entitlement to those funds. However, if the casino allowed you to register, verify your account, and deposit funds despite you being in a restricted region, they are in breach of their own terms and legal obligations. In such cases, they share significant responsibility for the situation.

I’m currently facing similar issues with several casinos, and my lawyers have made it clear that pursuing legal action is a viable option. That said, they’ve advised me to first go public and raise awareness of these practices. When cases like these gain visibility, it puts more pressure on the casinos to refund net losses and address their misconduct.

From a legal standpoint (in my country), any contract formed under illegal circumstances is not binding. This means that the casino has no legal right to retain funds from your net losses, as the contract itself is null and void. However, this is a double-edged sword. If you’ve withdrawn any winnings while playing from a restricted region, the casino could potentially sue to reclaim those profits. There have been cases where this has happened, so tread carefully. If they return your net losses, consider it a win, as many casinos don’t even offer that much without significant legal pressure.

For example, I had similar exchanges with Stake. They kept hiding behind their Terms of Service (TOS), but here’s the catch: the TOS don’t hold up for players from restricted regions. By law, no legally binding contract can be formed if one party is operating illegally (e.g., accepting players from a restricted country). So relying on their TOS as a defense is not a valid legal standpoint when they are already in breach of licensing or regional laws. They will eventually be forced to face these lawsuits and take responsibility for their actions.

As for your case, the aggressive marketing strategies employed by these casinos, combined with their failure to enforce regional restrictions, make their position even more indefensible. These platforms often exploit players through misleading advertisements, enticing bonuses, and inadequate safeguards, pushing individuals toward gambling addiction.

I’d recommend documenting everything—advertisements, account verifications, deposit records, and any communication with their support team. This evidence can strengthen your case if you decide to pursue legal action. Also, make your case public (like on forums) to expose these practices and gather support from others in similar situations.

I’ll continue sharing updates and legal findings on these forums to help people like us fight back and get reimbursed for the harm caused by these predatory platforms. Stay strong, and I hope you recover your net losses.
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March 12, 2025, 04:13:23 PM
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So sad that the way of a casino to be profitable is by taking funds of users, they let me register play etc been in spain, but if i want to withdraw winnings sorry you break TOS, they also broke it.


And remember, all months I've been losing, no one said anything, only when i started winning and having positive balance in my balance history.


So Rollbit works like this, you are a loser breaking TOS NO WORRIES ,you are a winner breaking TOS BLOCKED ACCOUNT AND WE TAKE YOUR WINNINGS.

I mean it's a good plan for rollbit, so they just win or win, never lose.
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April 07, 2025, 09:30:31 AM
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Still not get paid, pay my winnings as you took my loses for several months and didn't matter that i was from spain

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