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August 22, 2024, 08:01:00 PM
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In some cases, a player looking to gamble just for fun and without targeting any wins is better equipped to manage stopping when it's due because such individuals are not tied to the outcome. This can enable them to gamble for entertainment value only, hence passing time casually without developing any restlessness that might provoke certain underlying unresolved issues; instead, this helps them cultivate a well-balanced gambling lifestyle.

Nonetheless, whether one is gambling with an objective or simply for the heck of it, the possibility of addiction cannot be ruled out. Understanding where one needs to draw the line and having a check on oneself is what that keeps any gambling activity to remain within its limits.

In gambling, just desire and motivation do not guarantee success. Luck is one of the factors that combine with motivation and just goals to ensure self-control, as well as an understanding of the risks, all very important aspects to keep gambling activities under management and make them not self-destructive.

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August 23, 2024, 01:22:20 PM
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I do think that gamblers who take gambling activities seriously have their motivation come from the amount  they envision and hope to win, hence why they remain persistent in gambling instead of quitting after winning a little.

A gambler with a winning amount in mind, gambles much more and can become easily addicted than a gambler just gambling for fun and without a particular winning amount in mind.

In essence the thought process a gambler focuses on during any gambling activities will determine if such a gambler would gamble much more or lesser than normal and also, if such a gambler would become successful at their gambling endeavors.

What are your thoughts?

I think the opposite mindset should be deployed here and gambling with only a certain amount of money. Once the money is gone the gambling amount that you set aside you should be done with that episode. If you win then you take the overall investment and then some and reevaluate. I think this is a better idea.

Yes, think the opposite, in the sense of not thinking or imagining about winning but imagine what if you lose and lose a lot of money, this will cause a sense of worry that will eventually make a gambler only dare to bet a minimum amount and when they win then as you said where I am also quite sure that they will immediately secure the amount of victory compared to continuing the game by applying greed.

In gambling or any risky activity, focusing yourself or your mind on various unwanted possibilities should be emphasized more than imagining everything that you may not get, and this is why the ability to accept the consequences of risk is something that must be possessed by a gambler.

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August 23, 2024, 06:15:50 PM
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after all this is something that we see with traders as well, as in their attempt to make profits, they invest in shitcoins thinking they can make 1000x or more with their investment, when we know very well the chances of such occurrence are very low, while the chances they could lose everything they invested in those coins is in fact very high.

This happens a lot in memecoins, I don't know, but sometimes I see the children of altcoins and I realize that the enthusiasts of these coins put a large amount of money in, and wait for it to do its big pump, although it is a bit like that in respect of making money I consider that you have to have a lot of faith and a lot of patience for the movement to happen, and I remember very well how Doge was one of those hopes that thanks to the push of Doge made many win, but it is always a big risk, a risk that at least I do not take, I fully trust in bitcoin and its movements, always betting on winning a lot of money is entering into a great hope and that hope is sometimes difficult to happen, sometimes it is better to bet on something that can happen even if you earn little than to establish our money in something difficult.

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August 23, 2024, 06:53:29 PM
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I do think that gamblers who take gambling activities seriously have their motivation come from the amount  they envision and hope to win, hence why they remain persistent in gambling instead of quitting after winning a little.

A gambler with a winning amount in mind, gambles much more and can become easily addicted than a gambler just gambling for fun and without a particular winning amount in mind.

In essence the thought process a gambler focuses on during any gambling activities will determine if such a gambler would gamble much more or lesser than normal and also, if such a gambler would become successful at their gambling endeavors.

What are your thoughts?

I think the opposite mindset should be deployed here and gambling with only a certain amount of money. Once the money is gone the gambling amount that you set aside you should be done with that episode. If you win then you take the overall investment and then some and reevaluate. I think this is a better idea.
When amount of money is fixed in your daily gambling, it will be easy for you to stay long in gambling and you will enjoy the benefits of gambling because you are not budgeting above your capacity whether you win or lose, nothing will stop you not to gamble the next day. I know is not easy to stop gambling when losing and you still have money to gamble more, but if you have a certain amount of money you use to gamble daily or weekly, it will be easy for you to put stop at the moment without anybody advise from the gambling center.

When you win from gambling, don't spend all in gambling so that you will not going to beg people to borrow you money to gamble, because is very common among some gamblers who don't have mature experience on gambling.


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August 23, 2024, 07:20:52 PM
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What are your thoughts?

Some times we forget about the limitation of ours and chasing the big win and at the end of the day when when we get up to the chair we see the loss amount was bigger than as expected. And this is also a big issue in the gambler life especially to the addicted gambler who don't have control in the self when they do the gambling.

I  do gambling for the fun like most of the time I make bet on the sports and I am in safe in the regard of this. And I want to say before starting gambling everytime we should make an strategy on both loss and win so than we will not gonna put in to the risk.

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August 23, 2024, 07:28:54 PM
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You cant really just that make yourself expecting something positive because gambling is really just that random and also it will really be basing up with luck factor which this is something
that needed up for you to win.
It is a fact, with the game one should never expect something with too much Expectation, because in most cases we can lose, so that is where that logic comes from that we should never forget, first limit the money, second if we already have our money willing to lose then all we should do is bet and enjoy, and whatever the result is, enjoy it and accept it, nothing more, it is a Harmless logic.



@LUCKMCFLY, I believe that those gamblers that actually have a winning amount in mind before gambling are people that are not yet very experienced in gambling because if they are, then they will understand that it's very possible that they can even lose every money they had in gambling and yet may not archive the winning they expected. It's possible they could also get some winning but because the amount is not yet up to their expectations, they will keep gambling Just to multiply the winning, as they keep gambling, they may still end up to lose the previous winning.

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August 23, 2024, 07:56:41 PM
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I always say it, a gambler without a goal will lose all his money most of his sessions, and that because he gambles to have fun and not to win x amount. it's really importante to have it clear how mucho profit are we chasing before start gambling. And that's the only way to walk away with money and don't leave the casino with a bad taste for the sensation of winning big and then lose it all.

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You cant really just that make yourself expecting something positive because gambling is really just that random and also it will really be basing up with luck factor which this is something
that needed up for you to win.
It is a fact, with the game one should never expect something with too much Expectation, because in most cases we can lose, so that is where that logic comes from that we should never forget, first limit the money, second if we already have our money willing to lose then all we should do is bet and enjoy, and whatever the result is, enjoy it and accept it, nothing more, it is a Harmless logic.



@LUCKMCFLY, I believe that those gamblers that actually have a winning amount in mind before gambling are people that are not yet very experienced in gambling because if they are, then they will understand that it's very possible that they can even lose every money they had in gambling and yet may not archive the winning they expected. It's possible they could also get some winning but because the amount is not yet up to their expectations, they will keep gambling Just to multiply the winning, as they keep gambling, they may still end up to lose the previous winning.
I agreed with what you have said because it's true. The reason why it's called gamble is because we are not even sure if we might be able to win, and that's what makes it to be a kind of 50/50 thing and if care is not taking, the gambler with such mindset might lose more than what he budgeted for gambling. If a gambler with the mindset of winning a specific amount on gamble losses, he will definitely continue gambling because he has not gotten what he needed.

 
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August 23, 2024, 11:46:49 PM
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Unfortunately, only a few people have such thoughts, the level of sanity is often lost if one's emotions are really provoked by excessive gambling in using money, not a few people also have a gambling plan out of control.

Well, that's what it's all about , giving solutions for those who want to accept the advice, otherwise things work differently, giving advice on how to control emotions? For me that doesn't apply, we are human, we can't control emotions 100% , but by controlling money we can automatically control everything, because the Emotions come out on the Surface and the Impulses , but the party ends when the money runs out.


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What are your thoughts?

Some times we forget about the limitation of ours and chasing the big win and at the end of the day when when we get up to the chair we see the loss amount was bigger than as expected. And this is also a big issue in the gambler life especially to the addicted gambler who don't have control in the self when they do the gambling.

I  do gambling for the fun like most of the time I make bet on the sports and I am in safe in the regard of this. And I want to say before starting gambling everytime we should make an strategy on both loss and win so than we will not gonna put in to the risk.
things like this that must be avoided because by chasing big wins it is likely that we will only experience bigger losses, although no one knows clearly whether luck will be on our side or not but the big certainty is that the defeat will occur and make us lose more money. for gamblers who are already addicted, in my opinion the reason they are addicted is because they are chasing big wins or previously they wanted to recover the losses that occurred but what happened was the opposite of what they wanted.
In terms of taking risks, I think it depends on their respective perceptions, because there are gamblers who dare to take risks such as betting more than usual and even beyond their financial capabilities, and I myself am someone who does not dare to take risks in matters like this because there is no certainty of winning, this is what I consider.

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Unfortunately, only a few people have such thoughts, the level of sanity is often lost if one's emotions are really provoked by excessive gambling in using money, not a few people also have a gambling plan out of control.

Well, that's what it's all about , giving solutions for those who want to accept the advice, otherwise things work differently, giving advice on how to control emotions? For me that doesn't apply, we are human, we can't control emotions 100% , but by controlling money we can automatically control everything, because the Emotions come out on the Surface and the Impulses , but the party ends when the money runs out.

Indeed, controlling emotions is very difficult, not easy and tends to be lost if we are not pandaai in instilling rules of limitation on ourselves.

I think limiting money is one way to control emotions, where it is a preventive measure so that our emotions are not provoked, with the existence of restrictions on money, time and so on, as an effort to avoid emotional turmoil is a way of controlling our emotions so that they are stable and safe, and our gambling remains on the path of gambling responsibly,.

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Unfortunately, only a few people have such thoughts, the level of sanity is often lost if one's emotions are really provoked by excessive gambling in using money, not a few people also have a gambling plan out of control.

Well, that's what it's all about , giving solutions for those who want to accept the advice, otherwise things work differently, giving advice on how to control emotions? For me that doesn't apply, we are human, we can't control emotions 100% , but by controlling money we can automatically control everything, because the Emotions come out on the Surface and the Impulses , but the party ends when the money runs out.

Indeed, controlling emotions is very difficult, not easy and tends to be lost if we are not pandaai in instilling rules of limitation on ourselves.

I think limiting money is one way to control emotions, where it is a preventive measure so that our emotions are not provoked, with the existence of restrictions on money, time and so on, as an effort to avoid emotional turmoil is a way of controlling our emotions so that they are stable and safe, and our gambling remains on the path of gambling responsibly,.
A limited budget should be allocated for gambling as well as specific time that does not affect the emotions negatively for a gambler. If you win gambling, you should stop yourself at that moment even though it is not so easy to do and the expectation and greed of winning more will drive you. Gambling with limited resources can be positive for you as a way to pass the time along with your entertainment but you should be careful not to let it become an addiction. Gambling responsibly and making every effort to support your family's financial needs.

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Unfortunately, only a few people have such thoughts, the level of sanity is often lost if one's emotions are really provoked by excessive gambling in using money, not a few people also have a gambling plan out of control.

Well, that's what it's all about , giving solutions for those who want to accept the advice, otherwise things work differently, giving advice on how to control emotions? For me that doesn't apply, we are human, we can't control emotions 100% , but by controlling money we can automatically control everything, because the Emotions come out on the Surface and the Impulses , but the party ends when the money runs out.

I agree with that. It's on us.
If we really want to control ourselves then we must defy our emotions and try to be disciplined with a budget in mind. That way we can prevent big losses. There will be losses, no doubt about it, but let us at least minimize those by making a good plan and sticking with it whatever happens.
The thing about chasing losses is that it's filled with revenge and expectation. We want our money back, and we think the gambling site will give it back, and those kinds of mentality will wreck us.
You lose, forget about it. Don't expect anything like it will be given back to you as long as you keep on playing.

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August 24, 2024, 07:23:22 AM
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Unfortunately, only a few people have such thoughts, the level of sanity is often lost if one's emotions are really provoked by excessive gambling in using money, not a few people also have a gambling plan out of control.

Well, that's what it's all about , giving solutions for those who want to accept the advice, otherwise things work differently, giving advice on how to control emotions? For me that doesn't apply, we are human, we can't control emotions 100% , but by controlling money we can automatically control everything, because the Emotions come out on the Surface and the Impulses , but the party ends when the money runs out.

Indeed, controlling emotions is very difficult, not easy and tends to be lost if we are not pandaai in instilling rules of limitation on ourselves.

I think limiting money is one way to control emotions, where it is a preventive measure so that our emotions are not provoked, with the existence of restrictions on money, time and so on, as an effort to avoid emotional turmoil is a way of controlling our emotions so that they are stable and safe, and our gambling remains on the path of gambling responsibly,.
A limited budget should be allocated for gambling as well as specific time that does not affect the emotions negatively for a gambler. If you win gambling, you should stop yourself at that moment even though it is not so easy to do and the expectation and greed of winning more will drive you. Gambling with limited resources can be positive for you as a way to pass the time along with your entertainment but you should be careful not to let it become an addiction. Gambling responsibly and making every effort to support your family's financial needs.
some persons will not agree such, because I know that why whenever a gambler loses in the gambling and is having emotional challenges is because they don't make out one particular money for gambling, because if make out a specific amount for gambling I think that would have been better understanding, so in my own ways of understanding my own things I think if you don't gambling to affect you that much you have to make reservations of particular amount you will be using monthly for playing your gambling, because if you use your saves to gamble and immediately you lose you will be affected

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Unfortunately, only a few people have such thoughts, the level of sanity is often lost if one's emotions are really provoked by excessive gambling in using money, not a few people also have a gambling plan out of control.
Well, that's what it's all about , giving solutions for those who want to accept the advice, otherwise things work differently, giving advice on how to control emotions? For me that doesn't apply, we are human, we can't control emotions 100% , but by controlling money we can automatically control everything, because the Emotions come out on the Surface and the Impulses , but the party ends when the money runs out.
We can only suggests them without forcing them to follow our suggestion. They will choose whatever they think that is the best for them and if they still thinking about the winning in their minds, that will be no problem for them. But they should realizes that winning in gambling is difficult and not many people can win some money so they should not trying hard to playing gambling. If they can aware that playing gambling is just for have fun and not for chasing the money, they will use their time to have fun.

We can advice on how to control emotions while we can also show how they can do that. But to do that, that will be up to them because they will have their consideration why they still do that and we can not do anything. We only hope that they will not lose too much money when playing gambling so they will not regret because of losing their money.

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August 24, 2024, 08:53:44 AM
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I agree with that. It's on us.
If we really want to control ourselves then we must defy our emotions and try to be disciplined with a budget in mind. That way we can prevent big losses. There will be losses, no doubt about it, but let us at least minimize those by making a good plan and sticking with it whatever happens.
The thing about chasing losses is that it's filled with revenge and expectation. We want our money back, and we think the gambling site will give it back, and those kinds of mentality will wreck us.
You lose, forget about it. Don't expect anything like it will be given back to you as long as you keep on playing.

because actually, we can't determine whether we will win or lose in the game. we can only forget the game that we have played. As you said, if you lose then forget it. we come back tomorrow for a new bet with a new chance. not to chase our losses.

limiting funds for betting is the best way to do that, but everything must be attempted with self-control too. if we can't control ourselves, it's useless to make limits if we can't keep them. what happens is that you will continue to deposit your money when you continue to lose until your money runs out.

I'm sure gamblers understand the concept of being responsible in gambling. but we have to be honest, it's not easy to do if we are gamblers who may bet consistently.

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August 24, 2024, 10:16:56 AM
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There are so many people with such mindset, but there are still people who genuine gambling because they like to gamble, not necessary to make money.

because actually, we can't determine whether we will win or lose in the game. we can only forget the game that we have played. As you said, if you lose then forget it. we come back tomorrow for a new bet with a new chance. not to chase our losses.
There's no way you can forget what you did yesterday, if you eat pizza today, tomorrow you will remember you ate pizza yesterday. You can forget if you have a brain injury or a disease that make your memory loss.

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August 24, 2024, 10:37:24 AM
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In some cases, a player looking to gamble just for fun and without targeting any wins is better equipped to manage stopping when it's due because such individuals are not tied to the outcome. This can enable them to gamble for entertainment value only, hence passing time casually without developing any restlessness that might provoke certain underlying unresolved issues; instead, this helps them cultivate a well-balanced gambling lifestyle.


Having a free mind in gambling helps lower your expectations and increase your fun when you are gambling. It also relieves you of constant mental pressure that arises from underperforming in the direction of you target winning amount.

Somehow, when your mind is more relaxed, you tend to perform better and get more wins than when you are under pressure and overcautious of losses because your exploration potential is limited to your fear of losing money and funny enough you can even end up losing more in the safe heaven bet you thought were sure for your rapid conversion to profits.

Its important you gamble with amounts you can afford to loose so you can free your mind and enjoy your moments in gambling.











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August 24, 2024, 11:18:22 AM
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I agreed with what you have said because it's true. The reason why it's called gamble is because we are not even sure if we might be able to win, and that's what makes it to be a kind of 50/50 thing and if care is not taking, the gambler with such mindset might lose more than what he budgeted for gambling. If a gambler with the mindset of winning a specific amount on gamble losses, he will definitely continue gambling because he has not gotten what he needed.

That right, exactly what I said in my previous post. Winning amount from gambling is not certain because gambling is not like the real investment where when you invest $2k you can certainly expect $2.5k in your speculated period of time but in gambling it is very rare that you will speculate to win $2 and archive it in the desired time, that's why it's called gambling because you are not sure of the outcome.

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What are your thoughts?

Some times we forget about the limitation of ours and chasing the big win and at the end of the day when when we get up to the chair we see the loss amount was bigger than as expected. And this is also a big issue in the gambler life especially to the addicted gambler who don't have control in the self when they do the gambling.
Most of the time, we fail to do that because once we win, we then think about another and another until we lose them all. Most of the time, we feel regret and ask ourselves why we don't stop gambling after winning. I may say it was not addictive behavior but greed. 

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I  do gambling for the fun like most of the time I make bet on the sports and I am in safe in the regard of this. And I want to say before starting gambling everytime we should make an strategy on both loss and win so than we will not gonna put in to the risk.
Gambling without thinking about winning could help us enjoy the moment. But if we are on the chase of winning, we can never find happiness and satisfaction, it is always hunger. I hope we all have the same mindset as you do, but unfortunately, we were all born different and surely have different understandings of gambling. 

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