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August 08, 2024, 08:35:18 AM
Last edit: August 08, 2024, 10:54:49 AM by Oluwa-btc
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But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

Experience they say is the best teacher,but in this context a New gambler may win based on two different perspective entirely,which is either by Passion in the sense that one can put in so much energy in making it in gambling cause they love it and want to explore more and again it's based on efforts,you can't just choose to play and leave but one thing drives you to do so,either just for the fun sake or to earn more funds.

So putting the both together makes it more suitable,and that's why the new gamblers make it more cause they have passion for what they have assigned to do and with much efforts they hit more jackpots and be lucky sometimes,I'll definitely say it's based on luck.
It's not like old gamblers are not passionate enough or putting in more efforts but they have been experienced enough to understand what gambling is all about but the new ones are yet to uncover that.

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August 08, 2024, 08:43:15 AM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.


Experience they say is the best teacher,but in this context a New gambler may win based on two different perspective entirely,which is either by Passion in the sense that one can put in so much energy in making it in gambling cause they love it and want to explore more and again it's based on efforts,you can't just choose to play and leave but one thing drives you to do so,either just for the fun sake or to earn more funds.

So putting the both together makes it more suitable,and that's why the new gamblers make it more cause they have passion for what they have assigned to do and with much efforts they hit more jackpots and be lucky sometimes,I'll definitely say it's based on luck.
It's not like old gamblers are not passionate enough or putting in more efforts but they have been experienced enough to understand what gambling is all about but the new ones are yet to uncover that.

Old gamblers just know how to combine these two to have the best experience possible. It should be a target for all of us and new gamblers especially to find the right balance for ourselves and thrive in it.

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August 08, 2024, 08:49:00 AM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

In English, the word gambling itself includes slots and casinos and cards and sports betting and slot machines. I agree that all these concepts can be included in gambling, but still, these games are all different. I mean that slot machines and cards, for example, are still slightly different types of gambling.
Answering your question, I will say that when it comes to experience in sports betting, for example, I can understand this. A person can analyze for a long time and doing this for years, he gains a lot of experience, I agree with this and understand this.
When it comes to slots or blackjack, then experience, in my opinion, does not decide anything special here. A person who gets to a casino for the first time can earn more at once than an experienced player in his entire life.

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August 08, 2024, 09:24:10 AM
 #104

Luck is final determining factor, whatever be the experience. This is true not just in gambling but in every aspect of life. Your hard work can get turned into zero by that small luck factor in a matter of seconds.

Newbies do get lucky but so do the veterans. You can predict when someone is going to get lucky or someone is not. Hence the games are called games of chance. That chance is what people are dying for.

Experience will only save you from spending too much. But if you dont control the habit first, it will not do much.


Luck is indeed a determining factor but I don't think gamblers should rely on luck especially when it comes to sports betting, it's better to understand the game and learn from your experiences because relying on luck might make you lose sometimes.. experienced gamblers that have been in the game for a year can only say that they haven't benefitted anything from the market because of greed, 365 days can't be all bad, the hard work and consistency will definitely pay off, but when it starts becoming an addiction or obsession it's no longer advised to continue

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August 08, 2024, 09:49:05 AM
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Luck is final determining factor, whatever be the experience. This is true not just in gambling but in every aspect of life. Your hard work can get turned into zero by that small luck factor in a matter of seconds.

Newbies do get lucky but so do the veterans. You can predict when someone is going to get lucky or someone is not. Hence the games are called games of chance. That chance is what people are dying for.

Experience will only save you from spending too much. But if you dont control the habit first, it will not do much.


Luck is indeed a determining factor but I don't think gamblers should rely on luck especially when it comes to sports betting, it's better to understand the game and learn from your experiences because relying on luck might make you lose sometimes.. experienced gamblers that have been in the game for a year can only say that they haven't benefitted anything from the market because of greed, 365 days can't be all bad, the hard work and consistency will definitely pay off, but when it starts becoming an addiction or obsession it's no longer advised to continue
The thing is that professionals and experienced players reduce mistakes to a minimum and thus bring luck closer than those who do not. Therefore, I would definitely say that their probability of winning is higher. In addition, they know how to handle their deposit and do not make emotional mistakes when, in rage and excitement, they place bets as if they were uncontrollable. Therefore, experience is an important component that will come only after long games and if the player knows how to analyze well and draw conclusions. I often observe players who have been playing for many years, but they are no different from a beginner, so luck does not come much closer to them.

 
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August 08, 2024, 10:04:27 AM
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Luck is indeed a determining factor but I don't think gamblers should rely on luck especially when it comes to sports betting, it's better to understand the game and learn from your experiences because relying on luck might make you lose sometimes.. experienced gamblers that have been in the game for a year can only say that they haven't benefitted anything from the market because of greed, 365 days can't be all bad, the hard work and consistency will definitely pay off, but when it starts becoming an addiction or obsession it's no longer advised to continue

To me I won't say gamblers should base on both luck and experience, fine experience can give you more edge of winning but the system do change from what an experience gambler know to a new one, look at it this way, the gambling site or company would not want to always be on the losing side, is not good for business at all so is best to make it look like they don't lose and you win some, if they always lose no gambler who speak of losing in anyway or trying to quit gambling because of much losses so no amount of experience or how you monitor the game would give you every day winning.
But going for luck has a better chance of getting a gamblers more wins, it comes when you list expected and even a novice can win more than someone who has been in the game for years and that's luck for you, is natural so I'd prefer to be lucky than base on experience 100%.











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August 08, 2024, 10:54:51 AM
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Experience and knowledge can be huge factors that may increase the chance of winning, and they are far from those who are new and are just learning about gambling. But it doesn't mean this would be our ticket to winning because, whether we like it or not, luck is really what we need, especially for pure-luck-based games like card games and lotteries. 

Maybe if we are into sports betting, that certainly gives us a chance, but still, we rely on luck. That is why we don't have to think that we could win the jackpot prize despite having spent many years gambling, unless we are too lucky. 

We need both from both worlds, in my opinion. Luck is a factor that always plays its part, but the main thing going are the actions of the gambler himself. That's my point of view.
Because a careless and emotional gambler won't get that favor to win but will just lose almost 100%. 

As gamblers, we build trust and confidence in every decision we make, whether it is right or wrong, because a doubtful person won't ever make a good decision but is always unclear. 

Our actions affect our decisions about where we put our bet, but of course, still, luck is what we really ask for. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is what we need to acquire in order to win at gambling: 80% luck and 20% knowledge and skills. 

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August 08, 2024, 11:52:32 AM
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Luck is final determining factor, whatever be the experience. This is true not just in gambling but in every aspect of life. Your hard work can get turned into zero by that small luck factor in a matter of seconds.

Newbies do get lucky but so do the veterans. You can predict when someone is going to get lucky or someone is not. Hence the games are called games of chance. That chance is what people are dying for.

Experience will only save you from spending too much. But if you dont control the habit first, it will not do much.


Luck is indeed a determining factor but I don't think gamblers should rely on luck especially when it comes to sports betting, it's better to understand the game and learn from your experiences because relying on luck might make you lose sometimes.. experienced gamblers that have been in the game for a year can only say that they haven't benefitted anything from the market because of greed, 365 days can't be all bad, the hard work and consistency will definitely pay off, but when it starts becoming an addiction or obsession it's no longer advised to continue

True, it means relying entirely on luck when we bet on a type of game that cannot be analyzed such as slot games or dice and others, but when we talk about sports betting or other games that have data to be analyzed then of course as you said do not completely rely on our fate on luck, because at least by applying skills then maybe we will be able to get closer to what is called luck, a kind of combination of skill and luck to achieve results that are not too disappointing.

Trying to understand and learn a game will only allow for results if it is a game that can be analyzed like sports, with high flying hours maybe it can produce more wins but there will still never be an element of consistency in terms of achieving victory because wherever you bet and whatever type of game it is, defeat will always be a part.

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August 08, 2024, 12:33:01 PM
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Old gamblers just know how to combine these two to have the best experience possible. It should be a target for all of us and new gamblers especially to find the right balance for ourselves and thrive in it.
In everything it must be like that, because gamblers who already have more experience, be it the experience of losing or the experience of winning, of course will not rush into making decisions when they want to gamble on a particular platform. And actually the balance that must exist in every gambler is never being controlled by emotions and greed but rather we must control both to be able to balance whatever conditions we have to accept after gambling. Because there are times when gamblers must still stop when they have lost and also when they have won even though the next day they immediately continue again.

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August 08, 2024, 12:48:30 PM
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Because a careless and emotional gambler won't get that favor to win but will just lose almost 100%. 

As gamblers, we build trust and confidence in every decision we make, whether it is right or wrong, because a doubtful person won't ever make a good decision but is always unclear. 

Our actions affect our decisions about where we put our bet, but of course, still, luck is what we really ask for. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is what we need to acquire in order to win at gambling: 80% luck and 20% knowledge and skills. 
80% of luck, I think that's too much, even in roulette your chances will be about 50/50. Maybe you mean it matters how lucky the player is, but I honestly don't really believe in that. Maybe that's why I like to bet on sports more than I do in a casino, because I like to believe that my decision matters, and the ability to analyze an event and choose one of the possible outcomes gives me more confidence, that my bet will be a winner. And betting on black or red doesn't require any analysis, you just place a bet and hope for luck.

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August 08, 2024, 01:30:32 PM
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If that is about new gamblers, we can say that is because of new gamblers luck that comes to them and makes them get deeper to gambling because they will thinks that they will gets luck in other days. That makes new gambler becomes more often to playing gambling without thinks about their luck can't comes anytime when they playing gambling.

If they can thinks that the luck will not comes when they playing gambling, they will not trying to spends much time to playing gambling. They will just use gambling to fills their spare time and even if they have much experience in gambling, they will not trying to playing gambling longer. They know that playing gambling depends on their luck and having experience doesn't mean they can win many times in gambling. They will not trying to use much money to playing gambling instead just use some money that they can afford to lose.

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August 09, 2024, 05:25:04 AM
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Luck is final determining factor, whatever be the experience. This is true not just in gambling but in every aspect of life. Your hard work can get turned into zero by that small luck factor in a matter of seconds.

Newbies do get lucky but so do the veterans. You can predict when someone is going to get lucky or someone is not. Hence the games are called games of chance. That chance is what people are dying for.

Experience will only save you from spending too much. But if you dont control the habit first, it will not do much.
Luck is indeed a determining factor but I don't think gamblers should rely on luck especially when it comes to sports betting, it's better to understand the game and learn from your experiences because relying on luck might make you lose sometimes.. experienced gamblers that have been in the game for a year can only say that they haven't benefitted anything from the market because of greed, 365 days can't be all bad, the hard work and consistency will definitely pay off, but when it starts becoming an addiction or obsession it's no longer advised to continue
Luck, experience, knowledge and playing skills will certainly always help gamblers to complete all bets whether in casino games or sports betting, but if there is condition where there is greed, all of that will still be useless.
Gambling always gives an advantage to the bookie and no matter how good gambler is with lot of experience or ability they have, it will still not guarantee victory and of course there will still be defeats that they have to face.
It just that no one has ever been able to realize all this when they are in their betting session, every gambler will only try to optimize opportunities and consider bets in the hope of winning, in the end if something bad happens, any results will still not be in accordance with expectations.
However, each gambler perception will be different about this context, for me myself, I think that there are no players like us who are able to beat the bookie and victory is just return for previous or future defeats.

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August 09, 2024, 05:52:15 AM
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Some times  the luck and experience are not separated but  interlaced with one another, making a magical symbiotic relationship   inside the concrete person who is born to be a gambler. I think all of us have heard about Edward Oakley Thorp, famous mathematician, who used to play at blackjack tables like a devil. I think he has combined skills, luck and experience. 

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August 09, 2024, 07:35:47 AM
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The strategy was work for some games in the gambling site,But many games was based on the gambling site algorithm,most of the gamblers will fail to crack the algorithm.This was the reason for the loss in the gambling site.The gamblers also get addicted to the gambling site because of the continuous loss in the gambling site.The gambling should be played with more concentration in the gambling sites because many loss their money with some bad strategies.

Loses is not just experienced in the gambling site, it happens both on the online casino and land base casino. Like you said, no gambler can use any strategy they know to cheat a casino; those strategies that the gambler thinks he or she has cannot stop them from experiencing losses. Even if the strategy works on the first and second bets, it might fail them on the third time, or maybe when they don't expect it. 

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August 09, 2024, 08:35:41 AM
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Loses is not just experienced in the gambling site, it happens both on the online casino and land base casino. Like you said, no gambler can use any strategy they know to cheat a casino; those strategies that the gambler thinks he or she has cannot stop them from experiencing losses. Even if the strategy works on the first and second bets, it might fail them on the third time, or maybe when they don't expect it. 
Casinos will indeed have the upper hand because they have already designed algorithms that are made to better benefit the casino itself.
There will be more losses than wins, and the algorithms created also play with the psychology of a person who goes into gambling without having any knowledge.

But not without loopholes, of course there will be some loopholes that the casino may not be aware of,
this will definitely happen, even though it will only be closed when it is known.

I don't really force myself to win in games like slots or other games, it's just temporary entertainment.
I might focus more on more sensible soccer bets and could do some research on the team to support, but it also depends on luck.

 
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August 09, 2024, 08:56:14 AM
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Casinos will indeed have the upper hand because they have already designed algorithms that are made to better benefit the casino itself.
There will be more losses than wins, and the algorithms created also play with the psychology of a person who goes into gambling without having any knowledge.

But not without loopholes, of course there will be some loopholes that the casino may not be aware of,
this will definitely happen, even though it will only be closed when it is known.

I don't really force myself to win in games like slots or other games, it's just temporary entertainment.
I might focus more on more sensible soccer bets and could do some research on the team to support, but it also depends on luck.

Tricks to beat the casino appears constantly, but they quickly become known to everyone and the casino comes up with protection. Nevertheless, this is a very interesting process, from the last one I liked how someone with the help of Google glasses and a program (elementary program for calculating speed) tried to predict (based on the speed of rotation of the ball) the sector where the ball will fall. Probably, when roulette was invented, this could not have been foreseen.

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August 09, 2024, 09:01:09 AM
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But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

Both the new gambler and the old gambler winnings is depending on luck for games that are lucky based and not those that are skilled based because for the skilled based games, experience gamblers are always going to be favourites to win. When a gambler is playing sport betting, poker or other skilled based games, they do not depend on luck completely because they already know some things to do and how to play the game that it will favour them for a win. Gambling always works based in luck but just few ones that you can use your skills to win. New gamblers are always lucky because they do not have any thing that can make them to doubt the decision they want to make but when you have some experience, you will begin to always think twice before making your decisions.

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August 09, 2024, 09:19:34 AM
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But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

Both the new gambler and the old gambler winnings is depending on luck for games that are lucky based and not those that are skilled based because for the skilled based games, experience gamblers are always going to be favourites to win. When a gambler is playing sport betting, poker or other skilled based games, they do not depend on luck completely because they already know some things to do and how to play the game that it will favour them for a win. Gambling always works based in luck but just few ones that you can use your skills to win. New gamblers are always lucky because they do not have any thing that can make them to doubt the decision they want to make but when you have some experience, you will begin to always think twice before making your decisions.

Probability theory is a thing that can justify any luck or very big luck. For example, it is theoretically possible that a coin will land on the same side 100 times.
And that is why even an experienced player often finds it difficult to understand whether he lost due to his own fault or because luck is not on his side today. And I don't like this in gambling.

I have seen professional poker players smashing their keyboards on the table because their cool combination of cards did not lose to their opponent's bad combination. And that is a shame.

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August 09, 2024, 09:39:00 AM
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Old gamblers just know how to combine these two to have the best experience possible. It should be a target for all of us and new gamblers especially to find the right balance for ourselves and thrive in it.
In everything it must be like that, because gamblers who already have more experience, be it the experience of losing or the experience of winning, of course will not rush into making decisions when they want to gamble on a particular platform. And actually the balance that must exist in every gambler is never being controlled by emotions and greed but rather we must control both to be able to balance whatever conditions we have to accept after gambling. Because there are times when gamblers must still stop when they have lost and also when they have won even though the next day they immediately continue again.

Self-discipline leads the way, you are totally right.

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August 09, 2024, 09:52:14 AM
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But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

Both the new gambler and the old gambler winnings is depending on luck for games that are lucky based and not those that are skilled based because for the skilled based games, experience gamblers are always going to be favourites to win. When a gambler is playing sport betting, poker or other skilled based games, they do not depend on luck completely because they already know some things to do and how to play the game that it will favour them for a win. Gambling always works based in luck but just few ones that you can use your skills to win. New gamblers are always lucky because they do not have any thing that can make them to doubt the decision they want to make but when you have some experience, you will begin to always think twice before making your decisions.
Yes, when talking about gambling games based on algorithms such as slots or others, there is no definite strategy if you want to win this game, the basic thing is that luck will determine our game session, whether we will win or on the contrary we are unlucky today, the difference between these two types of gamblers is that experienced gamblers know and realize that in playing their games they rely on luck, unlike novice gamblers, most of them do not realize that luck is a certainty in achieving victory, if they win in gambling today they will come back tomorrow to bet on the game, and if they lose they will continue to force themselves to chase the initial defeat, and assume that this time they will win the same as before. and what I often see around if novice gamblers mostly do not bet on bets that rely on skill, most of them rely on slots

from here we understand that experienced gamblers mostly determine their choices on bets that rely on skills such as sports or poker as you mentioned. because from the game there is a definite gap that can win bets with skill and a little luck

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