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August 12, 2024, 06:50:20 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.
If you talk about the casino slots games then I think there is no need for any experiences because it fully depends on the programming the little experience needed that is only the learning process of the game you want to play on the casino slot game.

Otherwise, I don't think so that there  is any game of the experience in wining on casino game. The think you can say that in case of the sports game you have to must have knowledge of the games and as well as the teams form. But I want to also say that in gambling ultimately result depends on the luck not the gambler's experience.

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August 12, 2024, 06:54:01 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

Beginners luck is a real thing, and I know because I have been a recipient of it! There are a lot of tricks to the trade in anything and that only comes with the right experience based on the pursuit. One thing you can't downplay is the dedication to the craft. When someone becomes an "expert" in this field there is no way it has been done by sheer luck. They got their title for a reason.

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August 12, 2024, 07:14:44 PM
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There are games where experience plays a part, but most casino games have nothing to do with it and depend on luck, or simply random outcome that we explain with luck.
Do you know where this concept originated? People wanted to believe there's fate and a higher power that decides it, so that whenever they mess up it doesn't weigh on their conscience but makes them get over it much faster. That's all there is to it. You can't win at dice more because you have experience. It's a random game, like many other.
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August 12, 2024, 08:11:29 PM
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There are games where experience plays a part, but most casino games have nothing to do with it and depend on luck, or simply random outcome that we explain with luck.
Do you know where this concept originated? People wanted to believe there's fate and a higher power that decides it, so that whenever they mess up it doesn't weigh on their conscience but makes them get over it much faster. That's all there is to it. You can't win at dice more because you have experience. It's a random game, like many other.
I agree that most games depend only on luck and even experience will not help there, even if you play the same game for 10 years. As for the advantage and the use of our experience, which can help the player, this applies to a narrow range of games, such as poker or blackjack. In these games, you can really increase your advantage due to the calculations that can be done in your head, which have come to us over the years, that a beginner can simply be beaten easily. Even if this is not a few hands, then with a large number it is almost absolutely certain. Therefore, you cannot underestimate experience, but only apply it where it is really needed.

 
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August 12, 2024, 08:28:14 PM
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There are games where experience plays a part, but most casino games have nothing to do with it and depend on luck, or simply random outcome that we explain with luck.
Do you know where this concept originated? People wanted to believe there's fate and a higher power that decides it, so that whenever they mess up it doesn't weigh on their conscience but makes them get over it much faster. That's all there is to it. You can't win at dice more because you have experience. It's a random game, like many other.

Yeah that's a nice point mate . I've also noticed something when comes to gambling there's always something called beginners luck , like first one gambled, most people during their first time luck is always on their side or was it programme that way . Or is it a strategy to lure people to gamble more , because first time I try gambling, it literally went my way and made some nice winnings but when continue the losses started getting overwhelming.

And I have folks that can also relate to such too, winning in their first trials, which give them the zeal to continue.

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August 12, 2024, 08:58:13 PM
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But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

Luck and  experience  can't be taken away from gambling, you can't gamble and say you have never experienced luck before, it happen once in a while but what makes you go far in gambling is the experience, most people that you see win money in gambling often are experience based rather than just relying on ordinary luck. People that gamble and win on luck find it difficult to win again and if care is not taken, they end up losing the amount they won again back to the casino.

As for new person without experience, I wouldn't say it's good for them if they experience luck in their early phase of their gambling journey, they will think the little time the have spend in gambling is what has help them to win money and probably experience but it's a set up for them to lose continuesly until they have nothing to bet again, it's better to have experience to win than to have luck.

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August 12, 2024, 09:33:52 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.
Even if we do say that you are experienced on gambling or into a particular game but still that luck would really be playing out that big role when it comes on winning up a game.
Somehow there would really be those games on which you would really be needing up that kind of experience for you to have at least that kind of advantage or edge compared into
those purely basing up on luck factor thing and this is where you could really be able to make out some differentiation among these things and this is why it would really be that important
that you should really be knowing at least on what you are really that dealing into. Always make sure that you are really that fully aware the probability of losing no matter how good your
pick is or your choices are because if luck factor wont really be at your side then you would really be definitely be having a hard time on winning up no matter what.

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August 12, 2024, 09:34:02 PM
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That alone should tell you or anyone that goes around with the common ideology that gambling is based off of how experienced one should be - that it's quite the opposite. "I remember telling a story about a girl that picked up a pencil and a piece of paper from the trash can,.. she wrote some random numbers and it aligned with the draws for that week. 24 million was a huge win for a newbie girl that knew nothing about football teams.

This girl story was interesting,but the win of this girl was the possibility of 1/100 percentage.Not all the people get the chance of making huge money from the random betting.Because in the gamblers circle,their is a proverb of Random betting in the gambling site is like fell down from the top of the building to find the height of the building.Their are huge ways to find the heights of the building,but only few people use the risk to get the winning chance of the gambling site.


About greed? Alot has happened and people have learnt their lessons. Don't try to long for too much, when you're putting in just a tiny piece of your stake.

The gambler who played many games and loss their money will learn more about the gambling games.Actually this knowledge is the important one,So the gambler will avoid the loss of money in the random betting.Some time greedy are important to make the big win,but if this greedy over take the mind of the gambler.This will leads to loss of the capital in the gambling site.

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August 12, 2024, 09:44:44 PM
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Yes a new gambler can win big with few odds if the person has luck and if there is no luck then he lose. Gambling is from luck though there is an experience part of it because it the experience part will utilise to create the luck. If you have experienced and no luck then you gamble for nothing.

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August 13, 2024, 06:10:44 AM
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Luck and  experience  can't be taken away from gambling, you can't gamble and say you have never experienced luck before, it happen once in a while but what makes you go far in gambling is the experience, most people that you see win money in gambling often are experience based rather than just relying on ordinary luck. People that gamble and win on luck find it difficult to win again and if care is not taken, they end up losing the amount they won again back to the casino.

Those who knows how to play with luck will manage to take some from the house, but those who become greedy it will repeat that same mistake over and over, as they can't control what the tempatation inside them when they experienced some decent winning streaks, thinking that luck is all the way, without quitting it will lead them to lose those money back to the house and will leave them regrets after.

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As for new person without experience, I wouldn't say it's good for them if they experience luck in their early phase of their gambling journey, they will think the little time the have spend in gambling is what has help them to win money and probably experience but it's a set up for them to lose continuesly until they have nothing to bet again, it's better to have experience to win than to have luck.

Beginners luck most often time bring new gamblers to think that it will easy to repeat what they've already expereinced but from time to time after that winning, it will bring them losing streaks that will temp them to keep aiming to recover and will keep losing their money.


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August 13, 2024, 06:12:32 AM
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Yes a new gambler can win big with few odds if the person has luck and if there is no luck then he lose. Gambling is from luck though there is an experience part of it because it the experience part will utilise to create the luck. If you have experienced and no luck then you gamble for nothing.

Can I ask how you see the experience of the gambler, I mean, how an experienced gambler creates luck, and when a gambler is experienced, in your eyes?  Grin

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August 13, 2024, 06:37:14 AM
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I think gambling is pure luck. Yes, you can learn a few things through learning and experience and this will give you some edge over some inexperienced gamblers, but will not guarantee you success. Imagine if some known tactics and strategies can guarantee a gambler's success, you might see many millionaires around you.
Experience will only help you in learning to control your emotions and channel your energy into something productive. Through experience, you will be able to control your greed and will know when to exit. Winning in gambling is just luck my friend. 

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August 13, 2024, 06:40:28 AM
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I think gambling is pure luck. Yes, you can learn a few things through learning and experience and this will give you some edge over some inexperienced gamblers, but will not guarantee you success. Imagine if some known tactics and strategies can guarantee a gambler's success, you might see many millionaires around you.
Experience will only help you in learning to control your emotions and channel your energy into something productive. Through experience, you will be able to control your greed and will know when to exit. Winning in gambling is just luck my friend. 

But an experienced gambler will know when to quit from a win or not, thus, using the experience that he gained himself or from others. Can we say that it was luck that he got his prize in full? Not quite. However, I agree with your points about what experience is, mostly.

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August 13, 2024, 07:44:43 AM
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I think gambling is pure luck. Yes, you can learn a few things through learning and experience and this will give you some edge over some inexperienced gamblers, but will not guarantee you success. Imagine if some known tactics and strategies can guarantee a gambler's success, you might see many millionaires around you.
Experience will only help you in learning to control your emotions and channel your energy into something productive. Through experience, you will be able to control your greed and will know when to exit. Winning in gambling is just luck my friend. 

But an experienced gambler will know when to quit from a win or not, thus, using the experience that he gained himself or from others. Can we say that it was luck that he got his prize in full? Not quite. However, I agree with your points about what experience is, mostly.
I also believe that such a player’s condition as a streak of luck is a purely random statistical event and all major wins in the history of gambling occurred by chance.  But, of course, with the exception of such cases when there is fraud and a large win is rigged in a gambling game by scammers.  Of course, we should not consider such options for the gaming history of individual players.  As for strategy, it makes more sense in highly intelligent games and it is not at all suitable in a game with random processes.  Such a game as playing on slot machines with proven fairness algorithms.  In this case, in my opinion, the strategy can only be how to choose the right moment to stop playing.  That's the whole strategy when playing slot machines. 
And by the way, this skill, in my opinion, can be trained and, accordingly, not lose too much.

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August 13, 2024, 07:47:10 AM
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I think gambling is pure luck. Yes, you can learn a few things through learning and experience and this will give you some edge over some inexperienced gamblers, but will not guarantee you success. Imagine if some known tactics and strategies can guarantee a gambler's success, you might see many millionaires around you.
Experience will only help you in learning to control your emotions and channel your energy into something productive. Through experience, you will be able to control your greed and will know when to exit. Winning in gambling is just luck my friend. 

But an experienced gambler will know when to quit from a win or not, thus, using the experience that he gained himself or from others. Can we say that it was luck that he got his prize in full? Not quite. However, I agree with your points about what experience is, mostly.
I also believe that such a player’s condition as a streak of luck is a purely random statistical event and all major wins in the history of gambling occurred by chance.  But, of course, with the exception of such cases when there is fraud and a large win is rigged in a gambling game by scammers.  Of course, we should not consider such options for the gaming history of individual players.  As for strategy, it makes more sense in highly intelligent games and it is not at all suitable in a game with random processes.  Such a game as playing on slot machines with proven fairness algorithms.  In this case, in my opinion, the strategy can only be how to choose the right moment to stop playing.  That's the whole strategy when playing slot machines. 
And by the way, this skill, in my opinion, can be trained and, accordingly, not lose too much.

Yeah, this skill will get you something, help you to control yourself and also comes only from experience (pleasant or not Grin).

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August 13, 2024, 09:29:33 AM
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I think gambling is pure luck. Yes, you can learn a few things through learning and experience and this will give you some edge over some inexperienced gamblers, but will not guarantee you success. Imagine if some known tactics and strategies can guarantee a gambler's success, you might see many millionaires around you.
Experience will only help you in learning to control your emotions and channel your energy into something productive. Through experience, you will be able to control your greed and will know when to exit. Winning in gambling is just luck my friend. 

But an experienced gambler will know when to quit from a win or not, thus, using the experience that he gained himself or from others. Can we say that it was luck that he got his prize in full? Not quite. However, I agree with your points about what experience is, mostly.
I also believe that such a player’s condition as a streak of luck is a purely random statistical event and all major wins in the history of gambling occurred by chance.  But, of course, with the exception of such cases when there is fraud and a large win is rigged in a gambling game by scammers.  Of course, we should not consider such options for the gaming history of individual players.  As for strategy, it makes more sense in highly intelligent games and it is not at all suitable in a game with random processes.  Such a game as playing on slot machines with proven fairness algorithms.  In this case, in my opinion, the strategy can only be how to choose the right moment to stop playing.  That's the whole strategy when playing slot machines. 
And by the way, this skill, in my opinion, can be trained and, accordingly, not lose too much.

Yeah, this skill will get you something, help you to control yourself and also comes only from experience (pleasant or not Grin).
Here, perhaps, an interesting question is how long and how many times a beginner needs to play in gambling in order for this player to develop the skill of interrupting the game at the right moment, which can be called optimal.  In my opinion, to gain experience you need to go through quite a lot of game sessions.  Sometimes this period can be months.  And even a year is not enough for some players who are simply poor learners throughout their life.  After all, this op is, of course, a learning experience and at the same time a training in self-control.  And people who are too emotional may never learn to stop their game in time.

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August 13, 2024, 09:44:23 AM
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Agree. If we only do gambling as a hobby, we won't have any pressure to play gambling games. We can enjoy the games and we can focus to play the games as well. But if we make it as the main income or main profit makers, we will be burdened with the imperative to win. This may lead us to gamble excessively because of chasing the wins. Sure, we will be easier to be emotions or lose of self-control in this condition. Not doubt that this probably ends up with severe losses. So, it is better to make it as a hobby or a fun activity only.

This is the genesis of our problem as far as gambling is concerned. How many gamblers can beat their chest with confidence and say they are gambling for fun and entertainment and, not purposely for money? Only few gamblers can boast of this, the rest are out there trying to make a living out of gambling. The likes of Drake and few others perhaps, use gambling as form of entertainment.

Op, luck and experience are to factors that contribute to winning gambling and can not be separated. Depending on the type of gambling you are playing, their contribution varies. In some games, luck plays important role than experience while in some others, experience plays more role. The bottom line is both work hand in hand to give you a win.











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August 13, 2024, 10:16:30 AM
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This is the genesis of our problem as far as gambling is concerned. How many gamblers can beat their chest with confidence and say they are gambling for fun and entertainment and, not purposely for money? Only few gamblers can boast of this, the rest are out there trying to make a living out of gambling. The likes of Drake and few others perhaps, use gambling as form of entertainment.

Op, luck and experience are to factors that contribute to winning gambling and can not be separated. Depending on the type of gambling you are playing, their contribution varies. In some games, luck plays important role than experience while in some others, experience plays more role. The bottom line is both work hand in hand to give you a win.

Experience is always important, even in games where luck plays a big role, if only because you need to know when to stop in case of a big win, because you can get a big win and if you don't stop in time you can lose everything on the same day, and if you know that after a big win it's worth stopping, curbing your emotions, withdrawing part of the winnings and spending on yourself, then this will be the necessary experience.

If Drake has a lot of money and can afford to lose such big bets does not mean that for him it's just entertainment, I would rather attribute such big losses to addiction. I know that someone will say that for Drake losing a million is like losing $100 for an ordinary player, but if money is not important to him, then I especially do not understand what the point is for him to make such big bets, just hype?

 
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August 13, 2024, 11:47:25 AM
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I think gambling is pure luck. Yes, you can learn a few things through learning and experience and this will give you some edge over some inexperienced gamblers, but will not guarantee you success. Imagine if some known tactics and strategies can guarantee a gambler's success, you might see many millionaires around you.
Experience will only help you in learning to control your emotions and channel your energy into something productive. Through experience, you will be able to control your greed and will know when to exit. Winning in gambling is just luck my friend. 
When that happens, gambling businesses will close down. Cheesy

That is why we are using luck as the basis of our chance but it's actually just an algorithm and we have to be there at the right time if we want that high multiplier to win.
I have seen gamblers who have not won a max win in slots in all their online gambling live and up until now they are looking for it to happen at some point but the thing is, it's a chance and even if a gambler has made a million bet, there's a possibility that they might not receive it.
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I am of the opinion that in most gambling games the probability of winning is still more dependent on luck than on the experience of the gambler. Of course experience also plays a role in this, but experience mostly allows you to learn to adhere to the basics that help minimize their losses and do not make reckless decisions. Winning depends not so much on your actions as on the algorithm for the distribution of winnings and the coefficient of return to the player during your gambling session, and to influence this with their actions is unlikely to get.

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